Anyone heard anything about it yet? It seems to be in limbo a tad, or maybe it's just me.
I'd imagine it's going through standard production at the moment: Budgeting the scripts, storyboarding, casting, etc.
Give it a year, we should know more by then :)
Last mention I saw from end of May from Jason's twitter feed in response to a question about it.
"No official announcements to make, but loads of words being written."
The other official announcement was that the first thing being filmed at the studios and on location was 'School's Out'
https://variety.com/2019/film/news/judge-dredd-rebellion-schools-out-forever-adaptation-1203246298/ (https://variety.com/2019/film/news/judge-dredd-rebellion-schools-out-forever-adaptation-1203246298/)
Cheers guys. I like the sound of School's Out Forever - never read the book but it sounds a bit like Kids Rule OK, which is a Good Thing.
You're welcome - San Diego Comic Con is in a couple of weeks, maybe there'll be an update on various projects then.
Personally I'd prefer that Rebellion cut it's film/TV production chops on something else before moving on to JD:MC1.
Quote from: sheridan on 02 July, 2019, 01:38:48 PM
Personally I'd prefer that Rebellion cut it's film/TV production chops on something else before moving on to JD:MC1.
They are:
Schools Out Forever is scheduled to shoot.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 02 July, 2019, 08:10:57 PM
Quote from: sheridan on 02 July, 2019, 01:38:48 PM
Personally I'd prefer that Rebellion cut it's film/TV production chops on something else before moving on to JD:MC1.
Yes, I know - and I prefer that.
They are: Schools Out Forever is scheduled to shoot.
Fingers crossed for anything on Dredd day/month in Sept.
A cast announcement even if it's just one actor, or more concept art or news if it's going into preproduction in 2020, anything at all really.
Difference was when 2012 Dredd was released they were hoping enough time had passed for people, the general public had enough time to forget Sylvester "Removes his Helmet" Stallone.
This time around it will be not far from Ten years away by the time everything is done and on our TV screens but NO ONE wants to forget about Karl "Dredd" Urban. They should really strike while the Iron is hot that's why it's a shame it's not on our screens already, whilst you have the public interest and while it's still in their minds fresh that's when you should capitalise on getting the next thing going, it's only a shame the distance between wanting a sequel & not getting it & thinking about a TV show took so long.
My biggest Fear is what if by the time the TV show is aired no one cares enough even if it's really good cos they are too busy with Disney plus with all their Star Wars and Marvel Shows Etc? to add yet another Comic book show into their lives? So 3 seasons & then it's cancelled 😑
But at the same time we don't want it rushed and it turns into a disaster.
Thinking of Blade Runner - another Classic that built up a huge Cult following on home release, so when the Sequel came out I expected it to do gang busters at the box office, it did not.
Quote from: metalmarc on 04 July, 2019, 07:24:01 AM
Fingers crossed for anything on Dredd day/month in Sept.
A cast announcement even if it's just one actor, or more concept art or news if it's going into preproduction in 2020, anything at all really.
Difference was when 2012 Dredd was released they were hoping enough time had passed for people, the general public had enough time to forget Sylvester "Removes his Helmet" Stallone.
This time around it will be not far from Ten years away by the time everything is done and on our TV screens but NO ONE wants to forget about Karl "Dredd" Urban. They should really strike while the Iron is hot that's why it's a shame it's not on our screens already, whilst you have the public interest and while it's still in their minds fresh that's when you should capitalise on getting the next thing going, it's only a shame the distance between wanting a sequel & not getting it & thinking about a TV show took so long.
My biggest Fear is what if by the time the TV show is aired no one cares enough even if it's really good cos they are too busy with Disney plus with all their Star Wars and Marvel Shows Etc? to add yet another Comic book show into their lives? So 3 seasons & then it's cancelled 😑
But at the same time we don't want it rushed and it turns into a disaster.
Thinking of Blade Runner - another Classic that built up a huge Cult following on home release, so when the Sequel came out I expected it to do gang busters at the box office, it did not.
Three seasons and then it's cancelled will be fine with me!
It sounds strange to say it, but I don't need the thing to hobble on for 10 years before petering out. A few very high-quality seasons will do just fine (as long as Rebellion makes decent returns, ofc). I'll stream it, I'll buy the Blu-Rays, I'll buy the special editions, I'll buy the merchandise, but the starting point is it *must be good*!
I'd be delighted with three seasons. The Walking Dead was good for three years, and then it got boring.
In streaming-land all you get is 3 seasons because you don't get any new subscribers after season 1 / 2.
Poor The Tick...
Rumour has it you get three seasons on Netflix because after that point the contracts change, meaning less cash for Netflix and more for the people making the content.
NETFLIX are inevitably pulling back on the splurge and changing their approach toward niche content.
Netflix content chief Ted Sarandos told several of his high-ranking TV and film executives in early June that the company had to be more picky with its spending on big budget productions. Any upcoming projects need to bring in large numbers of viewers, and will no longer be able to float by due to being loved by critics or earning the company more credibility. One example Sarandos gave of a "no-go" for the future was Triple Frontier, an action drama starring Ben Affleck that cost $115 million and flopped.
https://www.engadget.com/2019/07/01/netflix-will-be-more-picky-with-big-budget-projects/
Basically, they want to spend less money, yet have content that brings in massive audiences, and yet that's also somehow good. That doesn't seem a likely mix.
I was recently chatting to an industry person who reckon Netflix is basically fucked. I was quite surprised by this, but he had a point. They're now going to come up against the big guns, who are finally taking telly seriously. That's not a fun place to be – although arguably a better place than Spotify, which must have five years left, tops.
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I think it means spend big money on more commercial stuff (Stranger Things etc.) and not keep the model of make everything for everybody, or spend huge on 'arthouse' films with barely any marketing – Netflix aren't HBO.
Their biggest competitor will be Disney, who run on a model of owning big, 4 quadrant IPs and recycling baby-boomer icons. It wouldn't surprise me if Netflix return to the notion of releasing episodes weekly, instead of dropping a load, because trying to keep up that level of production is insane when the popular stuff tends to smother all other new releases.
The idea that you can perpetually run a TV/Film business purely by running-up debt every year based on the ideal of an unlimited, ever-growing subscriber base, was never a goer.
Netflix is not a public-service broadcaster and the subscription is not a license-fee so it's guranteed to go bust if it doesn't change.
If Netflix (and presumably the other streamers) have a business model that encourages self-contained 1-3 season shows, then I'm all for it.
US Network TV has always worked on the formula of "keep grinding out a successful series until the lack of ideas becomes humiliating and makes it embarrassingly shit" (cf the eponymous shark jump) - I hope that they will become more 'British' in the approach of investing in amazing shows that aren't designed to be endless, but are just great, but finite, pieces of work.
Whatever the future for Netflix, they need to be applauded for the last few years where they've brought huge value for their subscribers (well, for me anyway). It's felt for a long time like a bubble that can't last, but its effects will probably be felt for some time.
They changed the industry in a way big studios always wanted but never had the gumption to do: cut out the middle-man — cinemas — and distribute directly to the customer.
Quote from: Dandontdare on 05 July, 2019, 10:25:52 PMIf Netflix (and presumably the other streamers) have a business model that encourages self-contained 1-3 season shows, then I'm all for it.
Agreed, but they need to be more upfront about it. Santa Clarita Diet got caught in this shit. The people behind clearly stated the last episode was a launch pad for a concluding two seasons. Had they been told everything was ending with S03, they would have given us, well, an ending. (Personally, I thought it ended reasonably well anyway, with few dangling threads. Still, a quick edit to a couple of scenes would have been enough.)
Quote from: wedgeski on 06 July, 2019, 12:10:31 PMWhatever the future for Netflix, they need to be applauded for the last few years where they've brought huge value for their subscribers (well, for me anyway).
I agree. I'm broadly pro-Netflix. Despite the fucking UX disaster of the current interface, they've been broadly pro-consumer, and have shifted smartly from being a bargain basement DVD bin to churning out reliably good telly (along with, sadly, mostly shit movies, and buying in inexplicably bad IP, such as Lucifer).
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 July, 2019, 12:18:05 PMThey changed the industry in a way big studios always wanted but never had the gumption to do: cut out the middle-man — cinemas — and distribute directly to the customer.
They did for telly what Apple did for music. Netflix's problem, though, is it's not Apple – in the sense of having piles of cash to roll around naked on. I suspect when these companies fall, it's going to happen horribly quickly. Still, as I noted above, I suspect Spotify will vanish before Netflix (either in the sense of being eaten by a large corporation, or by basically running out of cash).
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 06 July, 2019, 03:21:40 PM
They did for telly what Apple did for music. Netflix's problem, though, is it's not Apple – in the sense of having piles of cash to roll around naked on. I suspect when these companies fall, it's going to happen horribly quickly.
They changed how we watch not what we watch. It's Disney and the other IP holders who own most of what we watch. I mentioned before they can't run a business on ever mounting debt to catch-up in an IP race that's all ready over, so it's either change, go bust, or sell up.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 07 July, 2019, 02:08:46 AM
Disney and the other IP holders own most of what we watch. I mentioned before they can't run a business on ever mounting debt to catch-up in an IP race that's all ready over, so it's either change, go bust, or sell up
When the business news covers Netflix, they always conclude the insane levels of debt and spending were all about hoovering up subscribers so they became an attractive acquisition for one of the other tech giants*
The idea being that Zuck or Bezos can just buy a large installed user base and proven tech when they try to take on Disney in The Content War, rather than starting from scratch with a platform of their own. So Netflix** will eventually become a red dot in the corner of Facebook, like Messenger, or a bundled app with your $1000 phone.
* Facebook, Apple, Google or Amazon
** If the Netflix name survives at all it will be because of the cultural cache associated with the phrase Netflix and Chill, although once Gen Z are replaced with Gen A that's going to sound as cringey as Wassup! or stressing the word 'not' at the end of a sentence.
Would be a shame if Netflix wasn't around, around 90% of what we watch on television is from Netflix as they actually have series we enjoy in my house, stranger things, dark umbrella academy Etc, this sort of programme is ignored by uk broadcasting