Judge Dredd TV series

[nxylas]

It's Judge Urko, not Jesus Urko. As a letterer, I'd have thought your attention to detail would be better, Jim. New glasses, maybe?

I remember Tom Frame saying at a con that one time when he was on a tight deadline, he managed to misspell his own name on a 2000AD credit card (the old handwritten Compu-73E type), writing it as Tom Frane.

[Funt Solo]

Yes, and be sure to keep us up to date on what your optician says.

Over eight hours now and still no update on the optician's appointment. I'm starting to think this appointment will never happen.

[judgeurko]

If there's any concrete info, they'd certainly be talking about it.

Basically, this. Jesus, Urko, how many times does someone need to tell you: "When there's something to say, you'll hear about it"...?

thanks

[Steve H]

I think everyone here want's it to happen. Is there anything we can do collectively to support this endeavour and help make the TV show a reality ?

[IndigoPrime]

Short of funding it or having some really amazing connections to money and/or industry people who wouldn't wreck the property or attempt to own it themselves, it's hard to see how, unfortunately.

[The Legendary Shark]

I guess there are things like petitioning arts funding organisations for help financing the project or starting some sort of "We Want Dredd" campaign but I'm not sure there would be enough interest.

Patience, optimism and encouragement seem to be the main things we can offer at the moment.

[Jim_Campbell]

I guess there are things like petitioning arts funding organisations for help financing the project or starting some sort of "We Want Dredd" campaign but I'm not sure there would be enough interest.

It's not about the level of interest, it's literally about the insane amount of money required. Minimum table stakes for this sort of thing on a major streaming service is $10 million per episode.

For something like a Dredd TV series, which is going to require purpose-built sets and FX elements for pretty much every shot, I suspect we'd be waaaay over a $100M budget for an 8-10 episode season.

My gut feeling is you'd be talking about $250M for a full season. This, based on a property that didn't make its money back on a $50M movie...? That's a tough sell.

[The Legendary Shark]

And that's before we even get to the idea of the "hero" being a mega-mass-murdering fascist. 

Even though I do want to see this project come to fruition, part of me is relieved that Dredd isn't as popular as, say, Captain America with the wider public.

Is there something wrong with us for being Dredd fans...?

[JohnW]

My gut feeling is you'd be talking about $250M for a full season.

Come on, chaps!
Show a little twothy spirit!
A quick whip-round and we'll have that jolly old quarter billion in no time!

(A cake sale, maybe?)

[Funt Solo]

I'm not sure where you guys are getting your figures from - I'm pretty sure that a quick eye check up is only in the region of twenty or thirty quid.

[Steve Green]

There's nothing we can do at our end

I don't know what the budget is for Rogue Trooper (I'd go out on a limb and say it's around £10m (if that), since no backers have been mentioned and maybe there's a large element of self-financing)

Even if Rogue found an audience, it will be cheaper than a CGI MC-1 - you have people in masks to cut the amount of facial animation, less variety in costumes than a typical MC-1 population, and the CGI equivalent of a quarry is less work than a full blown city.

[nxylas]

My guess is that if the Rogue movie lives up to its promise of "Avatar-quality special effects for a fraction of Avatar's budget", then they might end up going down the same route for the MC1 TV show, using very realistic CGI rather than live-action.

[judgeurko]

I guess there are things like petitioning arts funding organisations for help financing the project or starting some sort of "We Want Dredd" campaign but I'm not sure there would be enough interest.

It's not about the level of interest, it's literally about the insane amount of money required. Minimum table stakes for this sort of thing on a major streaming service is $10 million per episode.

For something like a Dredd TV series, which is going to require purpose-built sets and FX elements for pretty much every shot, I suspect we'd be waaaay over a $100M budget for an 8-10 episode season.

My gut feeling is you'd be talking about $250M for a full season. This, based on a property that didn't make its money back on a $50M movie...? That's a tough sell.

Yes, if it wants to compete with Marvel, Star Wars etc. A big budget for a niche IP. If Rogue Tropper somehow does really well financially then maybe.

[Jim_Campbell]

Yes, if it wants to compete with Marvel, Star Wars etc. A big budget for a niche IP.

It's nothing to do with competing with Marvel or Star Wars, it's having a product that one of the major streamers will want to carry. Doesn't matter if it's Netflix, Prime, Paramount, Disney+ or Apple TV, they're not going to look at a genre series like this if it's been made on a shoestring.

[judgeurko]

Yes, if it wants to compete with Marvel, Star Wars etc. A big budget for a niche IP.

It's nothing to do with competing with Marvel or Star Wars, it's having a product that one of the major streamers will want to carry. Doesn't matter if it's Netflix, Prime, Paramount, Disney+ or Apple TV, they're not going to look at a genre series like this if it's been made on a shoestring.

Yes it is, naive to think otherwise. The major streamers will look at the stuff 2000AD are trying to do in comparison to what is on other streaming services, Marvel & Star Wars for example. Products don't exist in a vacuum so it does play a part.