"Zombie luvin', had me a blast(gun)
Zombie luvin', happened so fast
I met a zombie, crazy for meat!
Met a survivor, cute as can be!
End of days, drifting away oh oh ... oh those zombie niiiiiiiiiights!I have finally recovered after the festive period and thought I'd start a new thread, as the old one was getting a bit long in the tooth (heh, geddit?)
The End is Nigh continues apace! The articles and scripts are coming in, so within the next week I shall be farming out stuff to artists to draw, writers to write and dribblers to dribble!
But we still need:
humourous articles and short pieces - think Cosmopolitan or J17 ... but for zombies!!!!
Ideas for the Zombie Survival Guide!
Spot illustrations for articles
A serious look at whether zombies would signal the end of the world!
Biblical/religious verions or references to the undead i.e. do they herald the end?!
ANY advice on where we can get permission for the use of copyrighted photos from movies etc etc
Sendmail with your ideas - we need all the help we can get!!!
Cheers
LMS
I heartily recommend the End is Nigh to everyone. Before, I was a rotting zombie, trapped in a cycle of feasting on the flesh of the living and shuffling. Now, well .... at least I don't shuffle anymore ..."Link: For those that missed it - original thread
Re: the old movie photo problem...
It's been my understanding that it's perfectly legal to publish stills taken from films, of which there are plenty on the internet and which are not to hard to get hold of, as long as you credit the studio or company/individual who holds the rights to the property.
Aaaaaaah, interestin'. Can anyone confirm this, just to be safe?
(lovely work on those features BTW Byron, any recommendations for particular films we should have images of to go with it?)
Personally, I'd go for the most interesting visually, and names/films that people would recognise, so a rough list might be:
-White Zombie (1932)
-I Walked With A Zombie (1943)
-Plan 9 From Outer Space (1958)
-Santo Contra los Zombies (1961)
-The Last Man on Earth (1964)
-Night of the Living Dead (1966)
-Dawn of the Dead (1978)
-Zombie Flesh Eaters (1979)
-La Invasion de los Zombies Atomicas (1980)
-The Evil Dead (1982)
-Re-Animator (1985)
-Return of the Living Dead (1985)
-Evil Dead II (1987)
-The Serpant and the Rainbow (1988)
-28 Days Later (2003)
-Shaun of the Dead (2004)
Also, viz the zombie/apocalypse link:
have you considered the contrast between zombie films and the ever growing public concern with plagues and epidemics. Much like the vampire/sex metaphor, you notice the switch in the use of zombies in films: from simple voodoo slaves of some evil genius, far away from civilisation; to the post 'NotLD' [Night of the Living Dead] zombies, which really are shambling reanimated corpses, obeying no master, their only compunction to eat flesh and prolong their meagre spark of life.
The most interesting disease comparison is the fact that, with modern zombies, they pass on their infection with a bite of physical contact in which bodily fluids are exchanged (much like the aforementioned vampire). Most obviously, you can see these influences in films from 28 Days Later [man-made chimp virus kills off most of Britain] to Night of the Living Dead [man-made sattelite 'probably' killed off America]. Even in Return of the Living Dead, the cause of the outbreak is American soldiers dumping weird, man-made, chemical 'ooze'.
In the wake of the supposed 'superbugs' like MRSA and HIV, the public has been whipped up into a hysterical shitstorm, the likes of which we haven't seen since people started to realise that unsightly boils weren't the only effect of the Bubonic plague that swept Europe, and might go some way to explaining the recent ressurgence in interest in all things zombie.
Similarly, given the recent tragic events in India, Thailand and Indonesia, you might want to look at the zombie phenomenon as a natural disaster - a huge plague overtaking the world in an almost Biblical sense.
You mean this ISN'T a thread about necrophilia?
I feel cheated.
Might also be worth using some pictures of the Amicus produced portmanteau horror anthologies:
Peter Cushing as Grimsdyke in Tales From the Crypt, or (if you can find them) some shots of Amicus' 'zombie hand' that was reused in many of their films - off the top of my head, it turned up in Dr. Terror's House of Horror, Tales From the Crypt, Vault of Horror, and From Beyond the Grave, but may well have been in more as well.
Italics off ... was that my fault?
OK, i'll have the cosmo-thing. Whaddaya want? Styles fresh from the grave? Skincare for the undead? or real life zombie romance?
Come on. I did 2 photos for this and no one's commented. hummph
im having brains for breakfast.
braaaiiinss central heating for kids
questions
1:best zombie comedy - evil dead or evil dead two dead by dawn
2:best zombie trilogy -living dead by romeros or evil dead by raimi 3:best australian zombie - brain dead or brain dead :)
4:best italian horror
MY IDEAR OF SURVIVAL AGAINST ZOMBIES.
TAKE ALL TINNED FOOD UPSTAIRS.
KNOCK OUT THE STAIRS AND TURN CLOSET UNDER STAIRS INTO PIT SO THE ZOMBIES CANT CLIMB UP THE STAIRS. WHEN A ZOMBIE FALLS IN HOLE LOOSE ROPE AROUND NECK AND DRAG UP DESTROY BRAIN. CONTINUE TO DO THIS AND DUMP BODYS OUT WINDOW THEN SET THE BODY ON FIRE USING GAS BOMBS MADE FROM BEER BOTTLES, CLOTHE, AND GAS TO DO SO BECAUSE IN SOME FILMS ZOMBIES ARE SCARED OF FIRE.
AND CONTINUE TO DO THIS UNTIL RESCUE OR ZOMBIES DIE DOWN. IF YOU WERE TO STUPID OR JUST WERENT ABLE TO GET FOOD USE ROPE TO CLIMB OUT WINDOW SCOUT FOR FOOD AND COME BACK. IF PERSON IS BITTEN BY ZOMBIE CHOP OFF BITTEN LIMB IMMEDIATLY, IF HE CONTINUES TO BE SICK KILL IMEDIATLY EVEN IF ITS YOUR MOTHER. AND THATS BASICALLY MY IDEAR OF SURVIVAL.
'IF HE CONTINUES TO BE SICK KILL IMEDIATLY EVEN IF ITS YOUR MOTHER'
I'm sorry. That just made me laugh. he's your mother. Heh :-)
Now now Max.
With the correct series of operations, anything is possible these days...
I did 2 photos for this and no one's commented
You little liar! I thanked you on the newsgroup and also asked for your friend's phone number ...
I didn't get the email with it in then, or didn't bother to read it all. Found it now though.
I don't have her phone number. And anyway She lives in MASSACHUSETTS and has a solid boyfriend, who she calls G. Would you give up whats her name (sorry, I really have no idea what your girl's name is) for unatainable Jennifer?
im glad you pointed that. out must remember to check my writing before submitting it from now on :)
Perosonally I think you should help support the cause and prevent the spread of so-called "Running Zombies" by giving away a Campaign For Real Zombies badge...
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The scripts are now coming in - so artists are still needed for one and two pages!!
And put those keyboards to good use! Everything still wanted - ESPECIALLY short articles - they don't need to be Shakespeare, just mail me with an idea and we'll talk about it!
Tanky - any thoughts about what I mailed you?
I just read your mail this morning cos there's been a few connection probs this end, but yeah, i think i can come up with a problem page and i had a couple of ideas for that skincare thing. When do you need it by?
Final final deadline is Feb 28, but - naturally - ASAP ;)
On the Fortean Times website, I asked the question: How can zombies bring about the end of the world?
Well, according to one member there, it's easy: "It's just maths. Take one zombie and thirty classmates. Zombie kills classmate 1; now there are two zombies and 28 classmates. From here on its a doubling scale: 4, 8, 16, and then all the classmates join the shufflers. So it is with zombies. There will always be another one. My advice: stock up on canned food and shotguns Twisted Evil"
So would anyone like to do a proper look at how, in the event of a zombie infestation, we're all doomed? Fits perfectly in with the aim of the mag and would, essentially, form the 'lynch pin' for the rest of the content.
LMS
Want to be a zombie? Then send a photo of yourself to
icons at 2000adonline.com
What do you mean "Want to be"...?
Want to be a zombie ?
Celebrity Big Brother is allways a cheap option
I'm gonna edit photos of you guys into zombies
Erm holidaying in haiti has always had its downside, we were thinking of buying a home there until we GOT to the place.
I suppose its all the green zombie cocktails. HEY you don't vthink they have a Z.A.A.
One a related note, I would appreciate news reports - from all legitimate news sources - about the End of the World, whether about zombies or not.
As suggested by Mr Scott, it would be called DOOMWATCH and would include summarises of all the latest threats to mankind in the news.
Please submit all reports, along with the date it was published and where:
for newspapers and magazines - name of publication, date of issue and page number of article
for website stories - name of website, date of publication and full website address.
Think similar to the news digest columns they have in Fortean Times.
LMS
Oooh, I could put my limited journalist in training skills to practise. (before you say anything, LMS I'm only doing journalism as half of my degree, hopefully giving me employability skills, which I know I won't get from the airy fairy creative writing part
You have 'mail ;)
Heh ;)
Observations:
1. Interesting Byron brings up the MRSA panic. Whatever happened to necrotising fasciitis? That's sooo nineties! Or is it the same thing?
2. I think the Fortean Times webpage correspondent may be over simplifying. To calculate the rate of zombification, you first have to define your variables. There would be many factors involved: zombie speed, agility and ferocity, incubation time for infection, single or multiple sites of origin, etc.
With a single source and slow zombies, a clued-up armed response could contain an outbreak in a matter of hours. The ending of the remake of Night of the Living Dead illustrates this quite well. The scenario at the other extreme is the one from the remake of Dawn of the Dead.
Um... *faciitis*, that is.
I love the way people talk themselves into work ... ;)
Message from Wils regarding the Zombie Survival Guide deadline for ideas:
"If anyone has any more ideas for the pull-out zombie survival guide, could you get them in by Friday this week, please? (14th January)
I'd like to go through everything at the weekend and have the final text sorted by this time next week, so I can get cracking on actually producing it."
E-mail me (LMS) if you need an idea of what we want!
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Tanky - how's everything going with the feature?
Everyone else - how we doing?
Mr. Molcher: let me know if you'd like me to write anything else (but I'd appreciate if you could let me know before Friday, because I've quite a lot of stuff upcoming, and I need to plan out when I'm doing what).
ZOMBI!
Everyone else - how we doing?Should have my story drawn by the middle of next month - here's a preview....
Link: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v490/the-phuz/zombie-thumbs.jpg
Looking good!
Oooooooh, lovely. Keep up the good work!
(you lettering that, or do you want me to do it?)
That's a bit tasty, innit?
you lettering that, or do you want me to do it?
no problem, Mike - I'll do the lettering/tone/everything then send you it all on a CD.
That's a bit tasty, innit?Hmmmmmm, taaaaaasteeeee ...
Cool! Should have a pretty sick n twisted problem page ready by tonight, or failing that, the end of the week. The cosmo stuff is a work in progress! Hope that's cool.
--:)
Coolio! Might also soon have a Bella and Take a Break meet World Weekly News style feature page - with some pretty hilarious headlines ;)
Sorry, I had some ideas, and almost finished some stuff, but it was all tripe so I jettisoned it all.
ALL OF IT, I TELL YOU.
Hmm, I think you've hit on something there LMS. A Zombie / Grease musical crossover of somekind...
"Zo-hom-bieee, baby, I'm in misery
My limbs have gone, my eyes fell out, no longer can I see.
Living brains is all I eat I wish I could have Pie -ee-yei-ee-ei
Oh why, not pie, oh Zom-hombieee!"
Oh and the strips' looking good Phuz. Like that loads. That top frame on page two is virtually identical to a frame I cut from the original story. Fab!
"Oh the eeeviiil, it's multiplyin'
And we're losing control
It's the deadness overriding
Ya Just not dyin'"
Next verse anyone?
Anyone bidding on this? Only 20 minutes left...
Link: Fortean Times-How to make a zombie
Pah! We got summat better 'n' that ... ;)
Nice to see you're on the ball checking your own thread. ;)
Is it a gobbet of flesh?
Dudley: No.
I've put this one the newsgroup and all the other forums I'm trawling for recruits, so thought I'd mention it here too!! If you're not already a member of the newsgroup, then you're missing all the offers of work ;)
LMS
I'm thinking that perhaps the first couple of pages of the mag should be a general round-up of current apocolyptic thinking and events. This will include the Doomwatch column.
The Indian Ocean tsunami has been a tragic event. But I've already heard a lot of analogies to The End of the World and I know some internet sites are already touting it as a pre-cursor for The End.
So, any pro or would-be journos want to have a crack at a 400-500 word article on people's response to the tsunami?
I don't need to tell you that it needs to be handled with a bit of sensitivity, but I would prefer you to focus two issues:
1) the prophecy 'machine' and how it tries to fit such a disaster into various different End Times prophecies; what the many doomsday websites have to say about it; whather it actually DOES fit into any prophecies (or whether anyone is claiming it does).
and (to a lesser extent)
2) the religious community's response to such a huge disaster
A quick news search turned the following news items. The first one is PARTICULARLY relevant ...
Cheers
LMS
Ps let me know if you think I'm being horrendously unsympathetic or crass by requesting such an article ...
**Blogging the end of the world
Sunday Citizen - New Hampshire
Sunday, January 2, 2005
http://www.fosters.com/January2005/01.02.05/news/art_01.02.05d.asp
In the aftermath of the devastating Christmas Day tsunami, the Internet was abuzz with various vague predictions from apostles, psalmists, Nostradamas, and other seers who supposedly foretold the disaster, thus signaling Armageddon.
Indian holy men blamed secular society, and Pakistani Imams blamed Hinduism. Meanwhile, Indian prostitutes showed them both up by donating their daily salaries to relief efforts.
Some amateur prophesiers got in on the action as well.
The blogger Brightsides, for example, utterly failing to live up to his name, worried the Tsunami might "set off some major chain of events that could lead to the fulfillment of end-of-the-world prophecy," while a fellow internet traveler admitted, "Suddenly I thought of manic street preachers and my (expletive) need to repent."
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**Tsunami raises prophecy questions for Christians
Sunday, January 16, 2005
http://www.al.com/news/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/base/news/1105888619278810.xml
"Though some Christians might see it as a sign of the end times or a judgment from God, theologians say there are no easy answers behind the Dec. 26 tsunami that killed 150,000 people in Asia."
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**EYEWITNESS - TORCUIL CRICHTON REPORTS FROM BANDA ACEH
Sunday Herald online
http://www.sundayherald.com/47046
"THE outlines of empty eerie streets remain, but apart from that there is nothing to see through the shimmering air but rubble. It is an awesome panorama, unfolding over miles of what was Banda Aceh?s shoreside district, Lilele. As the eye adjusts to the sight, mangled shapes are discernable in the piles of brick and wood."
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**'I thought it was the end of the world'
TodayOnline - Singapore
Wednesday, January 5, 2005
http://www.todayonline.com/articles/32255.asp
INDONESIAN Rizal Sahputra is a very lucky man. He not only survived the catastrophic tsunami waves that destroyed his village in Aceh and swept him into the sea on Boxing Day, but he managed to stay alive for eight days in the ocean by clinging to the branches of an uprooted tree.
"I wasn't afraid but felt a sense of regret because I thought it was the end of the world," he said.
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So has anyone got any artwork to show yet?
Here's more roughs (working the tone and lettering out)
Link: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v490/the-phuz/Lettered-page02.jpg
Looking good, mate! Keep up the good work on that strip.
Things for progressing well, got some really good contributions coming in.
But remember - any suggestions are welcome!
In the spirit of openess (and to make sure John doesn't think he's on his own here), the latest illustration for EiN ...
Link: We're all very, very VERY doomed!
Finished my page- so here's a taster!
Looking forward to seeing the mag!
That page is truly a wonder to behold, I can report!
Thanks Johnny!
Don't forget - it's just one month and 24 hours left to go to the deadline! You might not think it's the end of the world, but it could just be! ;)
LMS that article you said you sent last week hasn't arrived..
Could you try again?
Cheers, B.
Will do. Not sure why it hasn't worked, will try it from my Yahoo account ...
Like wise, i ain't got that sample of johnny's art (if it's the same as what you've posted up here, don't bother, of course)
Check your mail Conexus
got it, and very nice it is too :o)
LMS -
Ran this off while I was waiting for your fonts to upload... :-)
Heh. Looks good though, don't it? ;)
Actually this rseems like it mightbe a very good summary of zombie films. Shame it's all in German.
Link: http://www.stefan-hoeltgen.de/index.html?/Texte/th
But will it be a Dawn of the Dead, or more of a Day of the Dead?
We'll just have to wait and see...
Plotwise it sounds more lirk the kind of movie Day Of The Dead was *intended* to be, before they rewrote it as something they could actually get the budget for.