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: The Book of Boba Fett [SPOILERS]
: rogue69 29 September, 2021, 08:52:42 PM
Disney+ have just announced that The Book of Boba Fett will premier on the 29th December 2021
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: sheridan 30 December, 2021, 03:07:48 PM
...and it certainly did!
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: Funt Solo 30 December, 2021, 07:51:27 PM
Yay!
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: rogue69 30 December, 2021, 09:37:10 PM
Not a bad start to the series, explains how he escapes from the Sarlacc pit and what happens to him afterwards
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: JayzusB.Christ 30 December, 2021, 09:51:50 PM
I really enjoyed it - didn't want it to end in fact.  I didn't care that Boba was in Buster Bloodvessel cosplay for much of it, or that the Sarlacc had changed his accent from American to Kiwi - it was an action-packed blast and in true Mandalorian tradition we learn a lot more about the culture of alien races we've been familiar with for decades.  I never thought to question why Tuskens don't die of thirst.
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: Mardroid 08 January, 2022, 05:08:51 PM
I’ve seen criticism online, but I’m enjoying it. I think some aren’t so keen due to the slower pace and less episodic nature than The Mandalorian (and I think the two timelines per episode get on some people’s wick) but I think it works well. I love The Mandalorian, but I’m also glad this isn’t more of the same (although both lean into the Western genre somewhat)  with just a different bloke in similar armour.

The train heist scene in the latest episode was particularly good.

I never thought to question why Tuskens don't die of thirst.

I confess, I was unaware those little black balls were meant to be melons, although it did seem strange that the Tuskens would intentionally bury their water in such small receptacles. Even odder was that there was a jet of water shooting out of the ground in an earlier scene and kid still made Boba and the rodian dig up melons.
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: Radbacker 10 January, 2022, 03:47:18 AM
Episode 2 always great, especially liked it when Morrison went Once we Were Warriors on the bikies in the bar (if you haven’t seen it or don’t know Once we were Warriors also known as What becomes of the Broken Hearted in some regions was Temura Morrisons break out roll, watch it if you haven’t he is a beast of a man in it who loves to booze and brawl and it’s a god damn tragic movie we’ll worth a couple of hours of your life).  Back to Book of Boba fett it fricken great I’d even say I’m enjoying it more that The Mandolorean.

CU Radbacker
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: Funt Solo 10 January, 2022, 04:10:06 AM
Once we were Warriors also known as What becomes of the Broken Hearted in some regions was Temura Morrisons break out roll, watch it if you haven’t he is a beast of a man in it who loves to booze and brawl and it’s a god damn tragic movie we’ll worth a couple of hours of your life).

Oh yeah - Once Were Warriors is brutally affecting.


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Mini-Solo has never really hooked into Star Wars, but she sat down for The Book of Boba Fett - intrigued by Ming-Na Wenn's character Fennec Shand. For her, the flashback went on a little too long (I think because she wanted to get back to what Fennec was up to) - but I'm excited about the new generation getting into the Wars.
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: broodblik 10 January, 2022, 04:55:51 AM
Interesting so far for me is that the SW TV Series so far has been great and proven that SW can work again but the movies (except Rogue One) was a sign it is time to sunset the franchise.
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: JayzusB.Christ 12 January, 2022, 10:25:49 PM
Just watched episode 3.  A few nice surprises there - never expected to see Machete on Tatooine, never mind a mod gang on hover-Vespas.
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: wedgeski 13 January, 2022, 09:34:54 AM
I thought Ep. 3 was a bit flat in places, specifically the wookiee fight and speeder chase, but there was plenty of other stuff to enjoy. I'm still waiting for this series to explode to life the way Mandalorian did.
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: IndigoPrime 13 January, 2022, 11:09:14 AM
Given that the episode was directed by Rodriguez, I’m amazed how lifeless the chase sequence was. And some of the design decisions seem a bit out of place, like the kids, who appear to have been transported in from an entirely different show set in Japan, circa 2032. But the broad strokes work well enough, and the characterisation throughout is solid. I especially liked how some depth was afforded to the Rancor, which I imagine might already be a part of extended canon, but was new to me.
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: JayzusB.Christ 13 January, 2022, 02:05:20 PM
Given that the episode was directed by Rodriguez, I’m amazed how lifeless the chase sequence was. And some of the design decisions seem a bit out of place, like the kids, who appear to have been transported in from an entirely different show set in Japan, circa 2032. But the broad strokes work well enough, and the characterisation throughout is solid. I especially liked how some depth was afforded to the Rancor, which I imagine might already be a part of extended canon, but was new to me.

I agree about the chase, though I've never seen the attraction of movie car chases anyway.   And yeah,  great to know a bit more about Rancors - suddenly I felt a bit sorry for Jabba's one; which now seems like a potentially lovable dog that's been kept in inhumane conditions and trained for pitfighting.
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: oshii 13 January, 2022, 02:13:14 PM
Its terribly handy that he manages to dream so chronologically.
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: CalHab 13 January, 2022, 02:14:43 PM
The chase sequence was comically bad, and appeared to be conducted at the languid pace of a tired bantha.

All in all, that was by far the weakest episode so far.
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: Barrington Boots 14 January, 2022, 09:40:59 AM
I'm struggling to enjoy it. That last episode was the worst - the design of the street gang and their Power Ranger bikes seemed to be out of another sci-fi series altogether - but overall I feel like a lot of what made Boba Fett cool in the first place has gone (it's in The Mandalorian instead) and rather than being the sort of mysterious badass Vader had to warn to not disintergrate anyone he's been reworked into this noble character who is also a bit of a chump, and whilst that's all well and good it's not the character I was hoping for.
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: IndigoPrime 14 January, 2022, 10:36:09 AM
I dunno. What we got from the OT was Fett having an amazing spaceship, having a rep, but very slowly aiming on the barge and ending up being hurled into a pit in a manner that feels like it was out of a Loony Tunes cartoon.
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: Barrington Boots 14 January, 2022, 10:42:14 AM
Can't disagree with that, but him having a rep is the key point - he's supposed to be this scary, kickass bounty hunter, all menace and mystery and cool gadgets. Less was definitely more with him and I think The Mandalorian captured this quite well by having the character be quite taciturn and capable.

It might be a weight of expectation thing, because this Fett I guess is not the character I thought he would be. I know it's not exactly a cutting analysis, but he's... well, he's a bit crap.
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: CalHab 14 January, 2022, 11:41:33 AM
I don't really understand how Boba Fett went from being a ruthless bounty hunter working for the embodiment of evil (Vader) and corruption (Jabba) to being so toothless.

Maybe this will be adequately explained in the series, but in the meantime we're getting sub-Quadrophenia gangs and low-speed, low-stakes chases. I agree it's a bit crap.
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: Tomwe 14 January, 2022, 01:16:36 PM
It's veering very close to farce for me. Rodriguez is in full Spy Kids mode and I’m feeling like I may be watching for completists sake rather than anything else. At least they’re usually short.
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: Tiplodocus 18 January, 2022, 12:16:19 AM
Sometimes I watch things to show how intelligent and clever I am. Sometimes because I think I'll enjoy them.

This was the latter; I am not a big fan of Bounty Hunters in Star Wars or Boba Fett but I find something to like in most Star Wars. This didn't work at all for me.

The beast at the end of Episode 1 summed it up; it just didn't feel Star Warsy to me*. And that conclusion should have felt more badass.

I'll give it one more episode but only because of Jennifer Beals.

*Cue fifty people telling me it's something that's been canon since 1977.
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: IndigoPrime 18 January, 2022, 09:06:35 AM
What is Star Warsy?
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: Tiplodocus 18 January, 2022, 09:51:10 AM
What is Star Warsy?

Good question which is why I framed it with "feel" and "to me".

It's different things to different people but I would imagine there are some things definitely "not Star Wars" e.g. time travel or biological warfare or "mutants" or masked vigilante superheroes. That beast, when stood on it's hind legs and when you saw close-ups of it's face seemed to come from D&D rather than Star Wars.
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: Dr Feeley Good 18 January, 2022, 10:09:30 AM
Watched the first three now and it is getting steadily worse,not a patch on The Mandalorion....
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: sheridan 18 January, 2022, 10:11:03 AM
What is Star Warsy?

Good question which is why I framed it with "feel" and "to me".

It's different things to different people but I would imagine there are some things definitely "not Star Wars" e.g. time travel

Don't watch the last episode of The Clone Wars
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: NapalmKev 18 January, 2022, 04:29:54 PM
I agree about the mod bikes being a bit too much, but I'm enjoying the series.

Regarding Bobas' apparent change of character - I think the flashbacks to the Tusken Raiders are the how and why as to what's happened. They saved the guy from death and made him part of the Tribe. Such actions can change people. Aside from his dad, Boba has only really spent time with Count Dooku and then been alone for many years so it's possible that this is his first proper connection to anyone/anything other than himself.

I could be talking complete Horseshit but there we are.

Cheers
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: IndigoPrime 18 January, 2022, 05:02:17 PM
That’s my take too, FWIW.
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: Jim_Campbell 18 January, 2022, 05:46:45 PM
That’s my take too, FWIW.

Yeah, this is a character about whom (canonically) we know almost nothing and, since the last time we saw him, has Been Through Some Shit™ … which we're still in the process of finding out about. I think a lot fans have a notion of a bad-ass that's largely been created in their heads, or derived from a chunk of material explicity ruled non-canon, which this version isn't matching up to.

(You'd think the fact that he has to keep putting himself into one of those medical tank thingies every time he mildly exerts himself would tip people off that this is a man no longer in peak condition…)

And, fundamentally, super-competent bad-asses* don't make for good television. I'm not sure you could get eight (or whatever) episodes out of Boba Fett marching into Mos Espa, declaring himself King of Everything, then killing anyone who disagrees.

*Yes, I know Din Djarin is super-competent compared to Fett, but he hasn't been burned by Sarlacc digestive juices and been through still-not-entirely-revealed stuff in the Tatooine desert… and they still had to give Djarin Grogu to create an Achilles' Heel for the character.
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: Funt Solo 18 January, 2022, 07:00:16 PM
I'm enjoying it - more so because it's now a dad-daughter event show that we watch together. The bikes were a bit out of place, design-wise - but she didn't care because she's never heard of Quadrophenia. The lead biker is female and kick-ass, and that's what's important to mini-Solo.

As for not seeing the attraction of movie car chases ... maybe you're watching the wrong movies, JBC? No love for The Italian Job's minis through Paris (https://youtu.be/RtWkewqIFDM)? How about the too-real car vs. el-train (https://youtu.be/2TVyJ-51jzc) in The French Connection? The entirety of Fury Road (https://youtu.be/UtjGTrVwRr4)? The Blues Brothers cop pile-up (https://youtu.be/LMagP52BWG8)? T2's truck vs. motorbike (https://youtu.be/6z9qws7M8q8)? The opening sequence of Baby Driver (https://youtu.be/7ARFyrM6gVs)?

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: JayzusB.Christ 18 January, 2022, 07:54:20 PM
Alright, the Blues Brothers I'll make an exception for.   And yeah, Fury Road and indeed MM2 for that matter, though it's more the fighting and insane vehicle and character design I'm into there.

I haven't seen the Italian Job,t as soon as I posted I suspected someone might bring it up.

More a T1 guy than a T2 one, and the truck v bike thing wasn't really my favourite part, and the rest I haven't seen either.
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: The Legendary Shark 18 January, 2022, 08:01:39 PM

And, lest we forget, the granddaddy of 'em all - Bullitt (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31JgMAHVeg0&ab_channel=Henrypapermill).
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: Mister Pops 18 January, 2022, 08:06:14 PM
I'd add Steve McQueen in a 'stang (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJZ-BHBKyos)*  and BMW vs Citreon (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0_UqwsYoGY) from Ronin to the list of great movie car chases. DeNiro really nails his performance as someone who knows they're driving way too fast.

*Edit: Shark beat me to it. I'd like to add those cars weren't doing controlled stunt skids, they were actually on the verge of sliding of the road.
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: The Legendary Shark 18 January, 2022, 08:09:11 PM

And listen to that Mustang growl!

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: JayzusB.Christ 18 January, 2022, 09:46:15 PM
OK, I give in.  Some car chases in films are good.  One or two are very good.  Also, I can't believe no one's noticed a certain bike / van chase back in 2012, featuring a jacket that says 'drokk' on the back and a poster of our own poster, Joe Soap.  I fecking love that scene.
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: Funt Solo 18 January, 2022, 09:58:38 PM
I highly recommend The French Connection - it's a properly gritty 70s cop movie. As for realism - the car chase was fairly criminal - the people on the road are real pedestrians on uncleared streets, and the director is filming from the back seat.

I'm a bit of a heathen and have never understood the appeal of Bullitt. I'm probably spoiled by everything that it inspired.

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Boba Fett. [Staying on topic, here.]
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: Mister Pops 18 January, 2022, 10:22:05 PM
Clearly the guy in this show is  some imposter  the sarlacc also swallowed, and I look forward to seeing this guy:
(https://www.bobafettfanclub.com/tn/300x300/multimedia/galleries/albums/userpics/10001/50db9a_6e9c2ffaccb24ba981cbc576363c173b.jpg)
The one true Fett will reclaim his Helmet.
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: sheridan 19 January, 2022, 12:07:57 AM
What is Star Warsy?

Good question which is why I framed it with "feel" and "to me".

It's different things to different people but I would imagine there are some things definitely "not Star Wars" e.g. time travel

Don't watch the last episode of The Clone Wars

I did of course mean the last episode of Rebels, not Clone Wars.
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: sheridan 19 January, 2022, 12:10:16 AM
...as for the hover vespas...

They did kind of bring me out of it, though I don't object to them (as some have said) on the grounds that they're shinier than everything else we've seen on Tatooine.  There are plenty of examples in the real world of people living in conditions somewhere between slums and shanty towns, and still putting effort in to making sure they have a shiny chrome vehicle.
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: The Legendary Shark 19 January, 2022, 07:16:36 AM

I kinda' liked the Vespas, they made me smile. If there can be hovering trains and rocket backpacks, why not these too? The chase was a little tame, though.

Overall, I'm enjoying the series so far, though, and think (as others have noted) that old Boba is a more interesting character here than he is in the films, where his character is little more than a cypher. He's seen the Empire fall at the hands of the more reasonable, but no less kick-ass, rebels - so maybe he's taking a leaf out of their book as well as slowing down a bit due to experience, age, and physical deterioration. I wouldn't be surprised if he teams up with the Mandalorian, or a Jedi, at some stage - after all, even Vader came back over to the light side in the end.


*Edit* Bullitt wasn't a very good film - except for that car chase.

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: Link Prime 19 January, 2022, 09:38:37 AM
What is Star Warsy?

Pre-1984.
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: Tiplodocus 19 January, 2022, 09:59:41 AM
What is Star Warsy?

Pre-1984.

Ha ha! That's certainly the case for some people.
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: IndigoPrime 19 January, 2022, 10:26:41 AM
Ah, that’ll be when arch bounty hunter Boba Fett acts like a complete twonk in slow motion, bounces off a barge, and falls into the gaping maw of a big creature in the desert.
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: Link Prime 19 January, 2022, 10:34:47 AM
Ah, that’ll be when arch bounty hunter Boba Fett acts like a complete twonk in slow motion, bounces off a barge, and falls into the gaping maw of a big creature in the desert.

You forgot to mention the Ned Flanders scream  :lol:
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: IndigoPrime 19 January, 2022, 01:09:02 PM
It’s just so naff. I get why people are annoyed Boba Fett is a bit shit in the Disney+ series, but he’s an old fucker now. In ROTJ, what was his excuse for the laboured pauses and not just getting shit done? I mean, aside from allowing the heroes to win, so the rest of the movie could happen?

Anyway, I’m enjoying the series enough to continue. It’s not as good as Mando, but it’s leagues ahead of the utter dross that was Falcon and Winter Soldier, so I’ll take that.
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: Jim_Campbell 19 January, 2022, 01:41:48 PM
but he’s an old fucker now.

Since this takes place in the Mandalorian timeline, it's actually only supposed to be (what?) seven or eight years after RotJ, which took place twenty-odd years after we saw him as a kid in AotC, so he should only be early-to-mid 40s… maybe 50 depending on exactly how old he was meant to be in AotC, and the slightly nebulous timescale between the films of the original trilogy. I think we're supposed to accept it's the burns and scarring from the Sarlacc acid we saw in Ep1 that makes him look older (Temuera Morrison is 61).
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: IndigoPrime 19 January, 2022, 01:46:54 PM
Ah, fair enough. Still: no spring chicken and past his prime in that gig. Although, again, ROTJ makes me wonder if he ever had a ‘prime’.
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: Mister Pops 19 January, 2022, 02:54:01 PM
...I think we're supposed to accept it's the burns and scarring from the Sarlacc acid we saw in Ep1 that makes him look older (Temuera Morrison is 61).

Yeah, I think that's why they showed that instead of just putting "somehow Boba Fett returned" in a title scroll. It was good enough for Palpatine in the last movie, but it seems these boys at Disney+ have notions about themselves.
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: sheridan 19 January, 2022, 03:33:18 PM
but he’s an old fucker now.

Since this takes place in the Mandalorian timeline, it's actually only supposed to be (what?) seven or eight years after RotJ, which took place twenty-odd years after we saw him as a kid in AotC, so he should only be early-to-mid 40s… maybe 50 depending on exactly how old he was meant to be in AotC, and the slightly nebulous timescale between the films of the original trilogy. I think we're supposed to accept it's the burns and scarring from the Sarlacc acid we saw in Ep1 that makes him look older (Temuera Morrison is 61).


Boba was 10 years old during the Battle of Geonosis (Episode II: Attack of the Clones) which takes place 22 years before the Battle of Yavin (A New Hope).  Return of the Jedi is 3 years ABY while Mando and Book of Boba are five years after that.  So Book Boba is canonically forty years old.
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: The Legendary Shark 19 January, 2022, 04:38:46 PM

It's not the years, it's the mileage.

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: Link Prime 19 January, 2022, 04:43:55 PM
"Hey Jon - Our lead actor looks like a well chewed Penny Toffee that received 6 months of chemotherapy.
What should we do about it?
Have him take his helmet off in every scene?

Jon?"
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: Richmond Clements 19 January, 2022, 05:38:19 PM
YOU WERE WEARING YOUR ARMOUR WHEN YOU ESCAPED THE SARLACC!
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: The Legendary Shark 19 January, 2022, 07:07:38 PM

If I can get rain dribbling down the inside of my raincoat I'm sure Boba can get sarlacc drool dribbling down the back of his armour! :-D

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: Funt Solo 19 January, 2022, 07:11:41 PM
I had wondered if his bacta tank* was due to something that has yet to happen in the flashback sequences.


* I had to look it up.
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: The Legendary Shark 19 January, 2022, 09:09:21 PM

YOU WERE WEARING YOUR ARMOUR WHEN YOU ESCAPED THE SARLACC!

Oops - now I get it. I suppose he was so out of it when he escaped that he forgot about that.

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: CalHab 20 January, 2022, 09:05:10 AM
YOU WERE WEARING YOUR ARMOUR WHEN YOU ESCAPED THE SARLACC!

Yeah, that left me very confused. How does he think he got out?

Otherwise, a welcome improvement on the dire episode last week.
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: JayzusB.Christ 21 January, 2022, 12:42:25 PM
YOU WERE WEARING YOUR ARMOUR WHEN YOU ESCAPED THE SARLACC!


Never thought of that.  I'm quite enjoying the series, though the Mandalorian set a very high bar and Boba doesn't really get close.  Wonder if we'll ever get to see anywhere but Tatooine?  For a place full of robots, giant slug crimelords, sand dragons and cyborgs, it's all getting a bit provincial and over-familiar for me, and I could do with a bit of interplanetary travel.
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: The Enigmatic Dr X 21 January, 2022, 12:59:06 PM
YOU WERE WEARING YOUR ARMOUR WHEN YOU ESCAPED THE SARLACC!


Never thought of that.  I'm quite enjoying the series, though the Mandalorian set a very high bar and Boba doesn't really get close.  Wonder if we'll ever get to see anywhere but Tatooine?  For a place full of robots, giant slug crimelords, sand dragons and cyborgs, it's all getting a bit provincial and over-familiar for me, and I could do with a bit of interplanetary travel.

I agree. I thought Tatooine was a hide-out but the dirty work was done on other planets.
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: Woolly 21 January, 2022, 07:15:06 PM
YOU WERE WEARING YOUR ARMOUR WHEN YOU ESCAPED THE SARLACC!

I'm guessing he forgot - understandable considering when he awoke he'd been made a slave by a supposedly noble group of sand people, and his armour was nowhere to be seen.

I'd rather know just how his spaceship works - how exactly does it manage to hover and turn about just a few meters from the ground, when it's thrusters are fixed in one position?
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: Funt Solo 21 January, 2022, 07:27:51 PM
I'd rather know just how his spaceship works - how exactly does it manage to hover and turn about just a few meters from the ground, when it's thrusters are fixed in one position?

Slave-1's anti-gravity nacelles pivot to manage the hover. The x-wings also have some sort of anti-grav for maneuvering gently out of hangers. As does the Falcon.

Space math!
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: Woolly 21 January, 2022, 07:30:21 PM
Space math!

Space math.... why did it have to be space math?!*



*Copyright Indiana Jones
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: The Legendary Shark 21 January, 2022, 08:18:18 PM

Space maths.

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: Mister Pops 21 January, 2022, 10:06:55 PM
Spacialogical Mathemagics. Gravity doesn't work the same in Star Wars, it was such a long, long time ago that universal constants hadn't quite bedded themselves in.  It was all crazy like Pi being exactly three and quantum chromatography still in black and white.
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: Funt Solo 21 January, 2022, 11:31:32 PM

Space maths.

Lingua-fascist! I live in the US, so it’s all color and favor and erasers over here. And pants go on over your pants, and not just for superheroes. And everyone has a gun so lots of people get shot, but the locals can’t figure out why because they only do one math, as opposed to several maths.
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: Krakajac 22 January, 2022, 12:00:16 AM
I find TBOBF all the more interesting now, knowing that Matt Berry is involved.

If the writers don’t get a ‘yes I can hear you’ in there somewhere, I’ll be sorely disappointed.
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: Tiplodocus 23 January, 2022, 11:16:56 PM
 He doesn't do much.

Colour me stupid but I only just realised that Ming-Na Wen was Chun-Li in the 1994 Street Fighter.

That must make her not far off in age with Temeura Morrison. One of them has a lot of City miles!

(I had assumed she was way younger because they needed a young side kick to do all of the physical stuff that Boba can't.)
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: Radbacker 24 January, 2022, 02:32:39 AM
Holly shit I did not know that I just knew her from Agents of Shield, I can forgive her for being in Street Fighter though, she is one of my screen crushes 😍 I might have to watch Street Fighter again now I’ve only watched it all nice when it first came out

CU Radbacker
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: Jim_Campbell 24 January, 2022, 06:54:08 AM
That must make her not far off in age with Temeura Morrison. One of them has a lot of City miles!

Ming-Na Wen (according to Wikipedia, anyway) is 58. As is Jennifer Beals. I'm assuming there are paintings in the attics of both these women that really don't look so good.
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: CalHab 24 January, 2022, 09:06:51 AM
Absolutely crazy. I'd have guessed 20 years younger.

Clean living and good genes, I guess!
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: Tiplodocus 24 January, 2022, 02:00:34 PM
Well I'm glad that I'm not the only one making an effort to remain gorgeous in my late fifties.
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: Jim_Campbell 24 January, 2022, 02:31:13 PM
Well I'm glad that I'm not the only one making an effort to remain gorgeous in my late fifties.

Somewhat bewilderingly as creep towards my mid-50s, I'm in the best shape of my entire life.
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: The Legendary Shark 24 January, 2022, 02:37:05 PM

I'm not. I'm dropping to bits.

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: Link Prime 24 January, 2022, 05:38:05 PM

I'm not. I'm dropping to bits.

Keep the helmet on.
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: Funt Solo 24 January, 2022, 05:55:44 PM

I'm not. I'm dropping to bits.

Keep the helmet on.

And stay out of Sarlacc pits. Even if, and this part is really important - even if you're in a spaceship.
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: The Legendary Shark 24 January, 2022, 07:15:23 PM

Keep the helmet on.


And stay out of Sarlacc pits.


Heh, if only you knew the job I've been doing today you'd understand how wise that advice actually is...

: Re: The Book of Boba Fett
: rogue69 27 January, 2022, 06:23:50 AM
Bit confused with episode 5 as there's no Boba Fett at all but was an episode of the Mandalorian . Still a good episode
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett
: IndigoPrime 27 January, 2022, 10:01:44 AM
It was a bit Billy Half a Narrative. Quite good, but those Mandalorians are a bit odd. On the brink of extinction, of course it makes sense to kick fully a third of your members out of the club.

Also: that new ship is absurdly tiny. Previously, he had space for crew/bounties/supplies/somewhere to sleep. With this one, he’d be hard-pressed to squeeze in a lunchbox.
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett
: CalHab 27 January, 2022, 10:19:41 AM
Unless he plans on decapitating all his future bounties?
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett
: IndigoPrime 27 January, 2022, 10:40:27 AM
Unless he plans on decapitating all his future bounties?

Not sure where he’d keep even those. One per trip, in his lap? He’s just not thought this through. Tsk. Boys and fast cars, eh?
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett
: sheridan 28 January, 2022, 03:10:11 PM
Unless he plans on decapitating all his future bounties?

Not sure where he’d keep even those. One per trip, in his lap? He’s just not thought this through. Tsk. Boys and fast cars, eh?

Crossed my mind upon first sight too - only so many heads you could fit in the droid Grogu seat.
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett
: Mister Pops 28 January, 2022, 03:36:07 PM
Unless he plans on decapitating all his future bounties?

Not sure where he’d keep even those. One per trip, in his lap? He’s just not thought this through. Tsk. Boys and fast cars, eh?

Crossed my mind upon first sight too - only so many heads you could fit in the droid Grogu seat.

Didn't he become King of the Mandalorians or somesuch at the end of the last season? Maybe he's receiving some kind of stipend and doesn't need to take on dangerous bounty hunting jobs.
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett
: Jim_Campbell 28 January, 2022, 03:42:42 PM
Didn't he become King of the Mandalorians or somesuch at the end of the last season? Maybe he's receiving some kind of stipend and doesn't need to take on dangerous bounty hunting jobs.

No… he came into possession of the DarkSabre by combat, which gives him the 'right' to lead the Mandalorians. Since Mandalore has been laid waste and its people scattered, this isn't quite the prize it might otherwise have been.
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett
: Trooper McFad 28 January, 2022, 06:26:16 PM
If anyone has skipped the clone wars then a watch through that (can’t remember which seasons) they deal with a big chunk of Mandalore prior to it being destroyed. I thought it’s was decent especially the last 2/3 seasons
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett
: Tiplodocus 30 January, 2022, 07:23:52 PM
Well that reminded me what I've been missing from this series... STARS. It was nice to get off Tatooine and see some star fields.

One of the great things about Episode 1 was all of the gorgeous design work. Was a shame to see the beautiful star fighter design spoilt with all of the greeblies they added.
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett
: The Legendary Shark 30 January, 2022, 07:59:24 PM


Also: that new ship is absurdly tiny. Previously, he had space for crew/bounties/supplies/somewhere to sleep. With this one, he’d be hard-pressed to squeeze in a lunchbox.


He could always hitch up a space caravan.

: Re: The Book of Boba Fett
: PsychoGoatee 31 January, 2022, 05:32:45 PM
Just wanted to say, love The Mandalorian! Just finally got around to giving it a full go, ended up watching the two seasons over the past week. Lotta fun, cool Star Wars tales.

I wonder if any of the writers read Strontium Dog by the way! Wouldn't surprise me. I noticed a comics writer Christopher Yost in the credits, known for some X-Men books.

Just starting Book of Boba now.
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett
: IndigoPrime 02 February, 2022, 09:19:22 PM
This series has some seriously weird pacing. Also, given all the voice acting he’s done in the past, Hamill was like a plank of wood here. Not a bad episode in terms of things happening, but it felt like moving chess pieces for what happens next.
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett
: sheridan 02 February, 2022, 10:06:44 PM
All great episodes as far as I'm concerned, but I agree about the pacing - one episode left of the seven episode series and - apart from 10 seconds of the explosion the war hasn't begun yet - they've got to pack a lot in to next week's episode!
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett
: Mardroid 02 February, 2022, 11:56:17 PM
This latest episode was definitely more an episode of The Mandalorian than Boba Fett, but I enjoyed it. Okay, that’s not saying much as I enjoy the Mandalorian….

I did wish we’d see more of Boba Fett at the end of the episode. I say ‘more’… anything would have been nice.

I really like the new ship. I thought it looked more beefy than the Naboo star fighters of The Phantom Menace, but I now think that might have just been the angles in which it was shot, or… just my stupid brain. Maybe it’s just after seeing entire squads of them together in tPM made them look smaller… cos they were farther away, like. (Seen that episode of Father Ted when they go caravanning? Yes I’m becoming Dougal.)

It crossed my mind too that it’s not really a ship for bounty hunters… unless he gets a larger ship as well. It needn’t be as high tech and equipped as his previous ship since he’s got the flashy starfighter for the fighting stuff now, just a dependable thing with cargo space for frozen bounties.(Not the chocolatey kind.)


Oh that reminds me… I’m talking about last week’s episode and I forgot, it’s new episode day today! I honestly had forgotten when I started this post. In my defence, I’m tired and I did a bit of shopping after work…
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett
: PsychoGoatee 03 February, 2022, 12:58:50 AM
Good points on the ship there!

I just caught up, really dig the Book of Boba. Fun stuff. I like how it overall has had it's own pace and vibe, very much like a classic Western. With that wild SW vibe and quirks we'd come to expect and want of course.

In general I like how it feels like it could go a lot of places, and in a zen cowboy kind of way, I'm okay with it going anywhere. It has characters we care about, but it's kind of laid-back and easygoing plot wise. Yet it also feels inventive and fresh. Can't wait for more of this fine universe.
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett
: sheridan 03 February, 2022, 08:48:24 AM
Re: the ship.

As is pretty obvious, it's a bit small for a bounty hunter (unless that bounty hunter is only going to be collecting heads, which isn't exactly Mando's style).  Though seeing as Boba has left the bounty hunter life behind, perhaps the impractical ship is foreboding of something similar for Mando?  And it's the perfect size for a little Grogu, if Grogu picks the mithril above the lightsabre.
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett
: IndigoPrime 03 February, 2022, 12:46:04 PM
I’m hoping Grogu picks up the lightsaber, hacks off Luke’s remaining good hand for being such a killjoy shithead, grabs the armour, steals a spaceship, and teams up again with Mando, ready for season 3.
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett
: Richmond Clements 03 February, 2022, 01:45:52 PM
That was a fun episode. And I shouted out loud when I saw Cad Bane walking out of the desert.
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett
: Trooper McFad 03 February, 2022, 10:15:23 PM
Re: the ship.

As is pretty obvious, it's a bit small for a bounty hunter (unless that bounty hunter is only going to be collecting heads, which isn't exactly Mando's style).  Though seeing as Boba has left the bounty hunter life behind, perhaps the impractical ship is foreboding of something similar for Mando?  And it's the perfect size for a little Grogu, if Grogu picks the mithril above the lightsabre.

I did notice a clear dome/wee cockpit where the Astro Droid should be so there’s space for a small copilot in there!!
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett
: Mardroid 04 February, 2022, 04:05:52 AM
I’m hoping Grogu picks up the lightsaber, hacks off Luke’s remaining good hand for being such a killjoy shithead, grabs the armour, steals a spaceship, and teams up again with Mando, ready for season 3.

Another really good episode, but I’m not all that keen on Luke’s depiction. I’m not talking about the CGI. It is a bit uncanny valley, but I expect that, more certain characteristics. Luke is very prequel Jedi-ish in this series and comes across rather wooden.

Someone made a good point in discussion on another site I go to, stating that maybe he needs to be like this here so that he can see that it ultimately fails to reach the stage he is in Last Jedi. But I still think he is too much. I don’t see him as cold, like others have mentioned, but he doesn’t really feel like Luke to me. The delivery of his lines didn’t help. I think Legends did him better, but I accept I might  just be bringing my preconceived fanboy notions to the character. (I was accepting of his portrayal in TLJ though, so I’m pursuadable.)

In reference to my comment about him being too prequel Jedi-ish, I guess it could be argued he is trying too hard to be what he thinks a Jedi should be based on his studies of the prequel Jedi, rather than just trusting his instincts and being. Kind of casts Yoda’s line about “try not. Do” (something he quotes at Grogu in this episode) in a new light. Maybe he should be taking his own advice.
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett
: The Legendary Shark 04 February, 2022, 04:22:10 AM

Luke never went through proper Jedi training, so he's really winging it. I think he's trying (maybe subconsciously) to reconcile the Dark Side with the Light Side because one can't really exist without the other and the only real option is a balance between the two.

Another good episode, though - even though the better episodes of The Book of Boba Fett so far have been the episodes that didn't feature Boba Fett so much...

: Re: The Book of Boba Fett
: Trooper McFad 04 February, 2022, 11:03:34 AM
That was a fun episode. And I shouted out loud when I saw Cad Bane walking out of the desert.

I agree and the continuing references/characters from the clone wars means there could be many more of these moments as both the Mando and book of Boba continue. However Cad Bane is a formidable foe that the combined efforts of Anikin
& Canobi could not really defeat (only foil)! What chance does an ageing Boba & Mando have?
  I look forward to this battle.
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett
: IndigoPrime 04 February, 2022, 11:10:04 AM
On a certain character, the delivery was one of the big problems for me. Luke felt less present than Grogu. That is a big, big problem. And given that Hamill has done loads of voice work, it was strange how detached, remote and wooden every line from him felt. Poor direction and production, perhaps, but combined with the abysmal pacing, it didn’t help much in what was otherwise a solid episode.

You know, I’m starting to think we should have a new board rule that if you wade into a thread about a currently running series and spot spoilers, tough. All these black bars are ridiculous. An admin can always flag the thread as containing spoilers.
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett
: Trooper McFad 04 February, 2022, 11:39:50 AM

You know, I’m starting to think we should have a new board rule that if you wade into a thread about a currently running series and spot spoilers, tough. All these black bars are ridiculous. An admin can always flag the thread as containing spoilers.

Agree
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett
: Jim_Campbell 04 February, 2022, 11:47:41 AM
Agree

Likewise. If the thread is clearly discussion of a currently-running series, just avoid it if you haven't seen the latest episode. I mean, if you have info (or possibly spoilery-speculation) about upcoming episodes then maybe fall back on a spoiler block, but if you're just talking about an episode that's aired, have at it…
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett
: JayzusB.Christ 04 February, 2022, 12:08:30 PM
Re. Episode 5 and 6 - yeah, serious jump in quality here.   I got a particular thrill out of seeing a Larry Niven ringworld and its night / day plates in action.

I'm not half as well versed in Star Wars lore as most of you, but that blue Clint Eastwood alien was just brilliant.

Pity Luke had to be such a cock about Mando's present to Grogu. 

Anyway I left out the spoiler tags here because you guys are right.  If you don't want it spoiled don't read the latest posts about it. The change in direction in TBOBF was a huge surprise to me but a welcome one , and it wasn't spoiled because I avoided the thread till I'd caught up.
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett
: Trooper McFad 04 February, 2022, 12:23:37 PM
Pity Luke had to be such a cock about Mando's present to Grogu

I know it’s a plot key to force Grogu into a decision but Luke accepted a very personal gift of his Fathers light sabre and that didn’t stop him training as a Jedi- but maybe did not make him a very good trainer until he lost it in Empire.

: Re: The Book of Boba Fett
: sheridan 04 February, 2022, 12:26:01 PM
Spoilers as a concept aren't quite as cut and dried as that though - in the old days everybody would see the latest episode at the same time - nowadays people tend to see them over the course of a day or two, depending on time zone, work shifts, etc.
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett
: JOE SOAP 04 February, 2022, 12:47:25 PM
Pity Luke had to be such a cock about Mando's present to Grogu. 

New Jedi hubris.
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett
: Mister Pops 04 February, 2022, 12:48:00 PM
Yeah spoilers in this thread should be fine. You have to make a decision to click into this thread. When spoilers show up in your social media feeds it’s entirely appropriate to get mad because that’s the response social media has been designed to provoke.
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett
: Jim_Campbell 04 February, 2022, 01:05:38 PM
Spoilers as a concept aren't quite as cut and dried as that though - in the old days everybody would see the latest episode at the same time - nowadays people tend to see them over the course of a day or two, depending on time zone, work shifts, etc.

Yeah, but I think spoilers are fair game here because you can avoid them by not reading the thread — it's not like Twitter or Facebook where your feed is splattered with open spoilers from the minute an episode finishes from the earliest possible start time. I don't watch BoBF until Thursday, so I stay off this thread until then. Now I'm a digital subscriber to the Prog, I stay off the review thread until I've read comic on Wednesday.
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett [SPOILERS]
: IndigoPrime 04 February, 2022, 01:21:07 PM
I’ve just adjusted the title of the thread as well, so subsequent messages should have [SPOILERS] displayed. 
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett [SPOILERS]
: Mister Pops 05 February, 2022, 12:41:11 AM
With regards to Mando's new hot rod fighter, I really like the shaker scoop style thingy sticking out of the "bonnet" and I'm hoping for an unlikely cameo of Vin Diesel as a mechanic/Amy Sedaris' lackey, who helps him reunite with Grogu because "family".
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett [SPOILERS]
: Mardroid 05 February, 2022, 06:25:24 PM
My apologies for my prolific use of spoiler bars earlier.. I do agree, and I mainly did it because others in this thread did before me (not passing the buck or blaming them. I get they were just being careful, and if anything I got even more carried away) and I didn’t want to be that guy. But yes, sorry for any irritation caused.

I'm not half as well versed in Star Wars lore as most of you, but that blue Clint Eastwood alien was just brilliant.

Yeah, Cad Bane is a cool villain of the animated series. According to a wiki article I just looked at, Lee Van Cleef’s  Angel Eyes was actually an inspiration, but I can see a bit of Eastwood in this live action version too. He didn’t show the humour that he does in the animation, but it was a small scene. Maybe we’ll see more of that later.

His hat brim was even wider there, but I think they maybe thought they should tone it down for live action. It’s almost a character all of its own there. 🤠 Oh and check out his special boots later…
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett [SPOILERS]
: sheridan 08 February, 2022, 12:19:38 AM
One more episode and the internet has come up with theories - because of course it has (not spoilers because they're all just guesses).

In no particular order.



* I think that theory was a joke.
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett [SPOILERS]
: IndigoPrime 08 February, 2022, 10:30:24 AM
Or: they’ll leave it all hanging for season two.
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett [SPOILERS]
: Jim_Campbell 08 February, 2022, 10:36:08 AM
Or: they’ll leave it all hanging for season two.

I suspect it'll dovetail into S3 of The Mandalorian, given how extensive the cross-over has been these last couple of episodes.
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett [SPOILERS]
: Mister Pops 08 February, 2022, 11:05:23 AM
I keep forgetting this isn’t season 3 of The Mandalorian
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett [SPOILERS]
: sheridan 08 February, 2022, 12:41:47 PM
Current speculation is that the next series of Mando will be the last (leading on to other spin-offs) and that the second series of Andor has already been greenlit (despite the first not having been aired yet).  No news on future series of Boba or Kenobi.
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett [SPOILERS]
: JOE SOAP 08 February, 2022, 01:20:26 PM

Obi-Wan Kenobi is a limited series of 6 episodes. It’s not so far intended to be more than one season and unlike the other series it has one Director and one Writer.
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett
: Lobster Random 08 February, 2022, 01:24:54 PM
On a certain character, the delivery was one of the big problems for me. Luke felt less present than Grogu. That is a big, big problem. And given that Hamill has done loads of voice work, it was strange how detached, remote and wooden every line from him felt. Poor direction and production, perhaps, but combined with the abysmal pacing, it didn’t help much in what was otherwise a solid episode.

You know, I’m starting to think we should have a new board rule that if you wade into a thread about a currently running series and spot spoilers, tough. All these black bars are ridiculous. An admin can always flag the thread as containing spoilers.

I think it's been widely documented that Hamill had no input into TBOBF. Luke's voice is computer simulated.
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett [SPOILERS]
: IndigoPrime 08 February, 2022, 01:32:30 PM
If so, it’s a bit weird for Hamill to be listed in the credits. But if the voice was faked, that explains a lot. It was full-fat uncanny valley throughout. Horrible. (I found all those breathless articles online about how great the CGI was compared to last time out bizarre. Did they watch the same thing I did?)
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett [SPOILERS]
: Jim_Campbell 08 February, 2022, 01:48:03 PM

Obi-Wan Kenobi is a limited series of 6 episodes. It’s not so far intended to be more than one season and unlike the other series it has one Director and one Writer.

Well, it's not like Ewan McGregor is a) cheap, or b) short of job offers. I get the impression he'll do a series if he likes the idea of it (Fargo) but I can't imagine he'd want to tie himself down to however-many-weeks of shooting every year for a multi-year commitment.

(Still, Disney seems to have got Hiddlestone signed up for at least two series of Loki, so, who knows?)
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett [SPOILERS]
: pauljholden 08 February, 2022, 02:06:14 PM
I have to say, I like the idea that Disney are doing one off series (or two or three) or at least deciding exactly how many episodes before the thing goes - a fair chance that a) the story will resolve and b) the story will mean something more than being an open ended way to have a star war.
BTW seen this amazing cross word?

https://kotaku.com/new-york-times-crossword-sunday-star-wars-star-trek-puz-1848495939
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett [SPOILERS]
: Tiplodocus 08 February, 2022, 02:30:18 PM
I keep forgetting this isn’t season 3 of The Mandalorian

Rename both series THE MANDALORIANS (or THE MANDALORIAN ARMOUR) and problem solved.
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett [SPOILERS]
: JOE SOAP 08 February, 2022, 02:33:12 PM
Well, it's not like Ewan McGregor is a) cheap, or b) short of job offers. I get the impression he'll do a series if he likes the idea of it (Fargo) but I can't imagine he'd want to tie himself down to however-many-weeks of shooting every year for a multi-year commitment.

(Still, Disney seems to have got Hiddlestone signed up for at least two series of Loki, so, who knows?)

Loki has a prebuilt elasticity that ties directly into the always forward pushing, next phase MCU films, but unlike Loki there's a certain amount of foreknowledge that Kenobi was supposed to be 'hiding out' on Tatooine for years - which does at least put some limitation on it, although it wouldn't stop him popping up for a cameo in Andor or flying off for brief adventures but it does dilute it. It's wheels within wheels in how they can use the characters. Aside from the expense and availability, Kenobi will make bank, and it feels like Andor has been in-production for years but is the last to come out.

After the Sequels I think they're being relatively careful with their 'classic' Star Wars characters and there's a concentration on the side characters and newbies in the ongoing series. The Luke thing is an ongoing experiment in how far they can push it, but is more likely than not the direction in which the franchise intends to go (they've done something similar in the next Indy film so Young Solo is all ready a shoe-in if it hasn't happened all ready).
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett [SPOILERS]
: IndigoPrime 08 February, 2022, 02:42:57 PM
If nothing else, I hope part of the lesson is that series give properties space to breathe and are often a better format. But I also hope the lesson of Mando is that there’s not really a need to keep mining the past.
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett [SPOILERS]
: Link Prime 08 February, 2022, 02:45:47 PM
Nice to see a classic character return this week.

* I am of course referring to Joe Soap. I wouldn't subscribe to Disney+ for all the Green Milk in Ahch-To.
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett [SPOILERS]
: JOE SOAP 08 February, 2022, 07:13:19 PM
Nice to see a classic character return this week.

* I am of course referring to Joe Soap. I wouldn't subscribe to Disney+ for all the Green Milk in Ahch-To.

You can wait it out in the hills all you want, but we'll find you, eventually.
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett [SPOILERS]
: Richmond Clements 09 February, 2022, 05:34:59 PM
No spoiler warnings as per previous comments

I mean, this season has been an uneven mess with some superb moments. The bizarre idea to have Ming-Na Wen explain the plot for a couple of minutes at the start of the episode was weird.

BUT.

Boba and Mando kicking ass. Boba fighting Cad Bane and, most of all, Boba riding a fricking rancor and smashing shit up a was the most Star Wars thing ever.
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett [SPOILERS]
: Trooper McFad 11 February, 2022, 09:59:27 PM
Enjoyed the last episode and was wowed to see the Wookiee using eletronux surely Jonny Alpha used them first and there must be some sort of copy right!
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett [SPOILERS]
: Tiplodocus 12 February, 2022, 12:50:48 AM
All felt strangely flat and cheesy to me. I do hope they are done with this and, I don't know, try something not set in the one fucking place. I know Obi Wan will have Tatooine connections but please I hope they find a way to vary the locales.
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett [SPOILERS]
: The Legendary Shark 12 February, 2022, 07:16:12 AM

Yeah, I thought it felt a bit flat, too. That last battle, while containing some truly memorable Star Wars-y imagery, also missed on of SW's best tricks - the multiple simultaneous battles with high stakes. For me, Boba should have been vying with Cad Bane for control of as-yet-dormant battle droids (or something) while Mando led the attack on the Syndicate guys and Ming-Na and the Wookie stirred the population of Mos Whatsit to defend themselves. In this episode, all the civilians just melted away and the outcome pivoted on the arrival of a dozen moisture farmers. I mean, even the ewoks joined in at Endor but here the civvies were just defenceless set dressing. Frustratingly disappointing.

: Re: The Book of Boba Fett [SPOILERS]
: IndigoPrime 12 February, 2022, 11:19:05 AM
The whole series was a bit odd, really. It was watchable, but Fett took a back seat in his own show, the best parts of which were Mandolorian season 2.5. Tactically, Fett wasn’t strong. The writing was often clumsy, notably with Shand spending several minutes explaining the plot in that last episode. Also: how strong were those shields? Is that a Star Wars thing I’ve missed over the years? It felt very “because otherwise the plot can’t happen”. Still: nice Rancor action and that very final scene made everything else worth it!
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett [SPOILERS]
: The Legendary Shark 12 February, 2022, 11:57:50 AM

Maybe it'll be better on a back-to-back re-watch in a few months. Then again...

: Re: The Book of Boba Fett [SPOILERS]
: pauljholden 12 February, 2022, 03:06:40 PM
It was such a little show, the Book of Boba Fett promises so much, but it ended up being the sort of a reverse breaking bad.

I'd've been good with a slow steady climb to the Hutt throne, series 1 shouldv'e ended with that shot from the Mandelorian with Fett on the throne and Fennec Shand- the whole thing could''ve been about Fett slowly building alliances to defeat whoever was previously on Fett's throne, Fett being worse than anyone else (while at he same time slowly cracking with a little bit of compassion showing through seeding the doubts that series 2 could've played up on). Series 2 starts some months later - Boba ensconced in power but, well what are you gonna do with it? As he starts to decide that maybe he's got it wrong and realising he wants redemption those former allies sense weakness and turn on him, s2 ending with his leaving tatooine, but not before he's demolished all the bad guys and left the keys of the place with someone decent (Cobb Vance steps in) Boba heads off to right wrongs from his past, and now you've got a book.

(I mean, ultimately the Book of Boba Fett should end with him getting his hands on that blade and being the uniting force behind the Mandelorians, we cut to 1,000 years later as some little madnelorian children are being taught all about him in their schools, of the Mando Empire)

ANYWAY -- what we got instead was a deeply unambitious show all about how boba fett met some guys, decided he wanted to run things with two other people despite clearly needing an army, and the best bits - THE VERY BEST BITS - where when the Mando showed up and we got a little connection with mando again

I dunno, I dunno if it was the writers losing interest, or whether it was the main actor just couldn't carry off what was being asked of jim. But give me cobb vance or Din Djaror any day.
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett [SPOILERS]
: IndigoPrime 12 February, 2022, 03:21:50 PM
I suppose The Pamphlet of Boba Fett doesn’t really have the same ring to it. (It also feels in hindsight like all the flashback framing didn’t really work either. Had they just told the story linearly, it might have worked better.)
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett [SPOILERS]
: The Legendary Shark 12 February, 2022, 06:51:50 PM

It seems to me that the Sandpeople flashbacks were used to inject something into an otherwise lacklustre central plot. Flashbacks are okay if they add depth or meaning to the "present-day" plot, but in this case I fear they were used because that's where the action (and character development) lay.

: Re: The Book of Boba Fett [SPOILERS]
: Funt Solo 13 February, 2022, 03:36:21 AM
Mostly still enjoying it because so does my kid.

Cons:
 - Fennec Exposition.
 - Fennec firing through skylights we can't see and teleporting through walls.
 - Vespas and the cyborgs who ride them.
 - Two guys in jet-packs not using cover, ever.
 - Try falling off a building in a suit of armor. You will die.
 - How did the Wookiee get back from the palace to Mos Espa when he was let go that first time - it's 85 miles of desert and he's a hairy bastard.
 - Peli Motto's jolly factor is turned up to eleventy-stupid now she's a recurring character. It's like Frank Drebin realizing the crowd will cheer him when he yells "STRIKE! (https://youtu.be/VWY9S-uKU-4)" in The Naked Gun.
 - The Book of Boba Fett was also the Mandalorian 1.5

Pros:
 - The Book of Boba Fett was also the Mandalorian 1.5
 - Rancor Kong
 - Cad Bane's voice
 - CGI Luke - it was just fascinating
 - Black Krrsantan
 - The end credit sequences
 - Those sand worms! Oh, wait ... wrong thing ...
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett [SPOILERS]
: IndigoPrime 13 February, 2022, 12:52:39 PM
I was genuinely surprised when the Rancor didn’t get killed. I was so sure he was going to be the ‘dog’ in the series. I didn’t care about the post-credits scene, but I did hugely enjoy the “no—not again” one.
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett [SPOILERS]
: Colin YNWA 13 February, 2022, 05:35:00 PM
Careful not to get too many spoilers so not playing close attention here, but I get the impression Book of Boba Fett is getting lukewarm reviews. Now thinkgs might change but we've just watched episode 2 and that was excellent. If it keeps this up I'll be good to give it a right good defending!
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett [SPOILERS]
: The Bissler 13 February, 2022, 07:28:48 PM
Until the final episode, I was convinced that the previous 2 episodes were cobbled together as a result of Covid happening and the producers looking to see what other storylines they could quickly act upon to make the best of the situation - in those 2 episodes there were very few characters in groups together and it all looked like they were socially distanced - but, the way things played out in the final episode, I'm not sure that could have happened without the preceding episodes.

I assumed that they'd brought forward the first two episodes of S3 of The Mandalorian. The reason I'm less convinced this is the case is because of Grogu being there - unless everything was supposed to go down as it did without him being there and the additions came out of the necessity of pulling those Mandalorian episodes forward. I'm hoping we get some insight about this stuff if they release a few making of episodes as they did for S1 and S2 of Mandalorian.

So far as that last episode went, the strangest thing to me was when Boba headed back to the palace, he chose the Rancor over Slave 1. Rule of cool, I suppose, but Slave 1 could have ended the battle in moments. Of course, the Syndicate could just as easily ended the resistance with a few gunships, but again, would it have been as much fun?
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett [SPOILERS]
: Mardroid 19 February, 2022, 04:18:36 PM
The battle scene, while generally rather good, did drag a bit for me. I guess I must be a bit odd in that it’s the action stuff that usually doesn’t drag for most people. Don’t get me wrong I do like a good action scene, but if it is going to be long (and I think I prefer it if these scenes aren’t long) it needs to move, and not be too repetitive.

Overall, I enjoyed it, and I enjoyed this series. It’s not as good as The Mandalorian, and I wish that Boba Fett was shown to be as tough as he was depicted in that scene where he turns up in that show. I seem to remember he and Shand polishing off a whole bunch of Stormtroopers with a rifle and a stick, while Mando himself was having a kip. This was without armour, and in a less healed state. In this show , he’s more healed, in armour with all his toys and… he seems to be beaten more easily. I’m not saying he should be indestructible or unbeatable,  just… tougher and consistent, if that makes sense. Cad Bane being a faster shot- I was fine with that for example. It’s believable; he would be. (Actually that entire fight with Cad worked well.) Getting beaten by a group in an earlier episode felt wrong somehow. He went down a bit too easy there. (Yeah, they’re a group but this guy can smash stormtroopers.)

I forgot about the rancor, so when Boba said he was going to get more backup, I wondered who he would return with. Seeing the rancor in action was a lot of fun, and a nice little King Kong homage there. I thought the effects held up well. (I think using Slave 1 would have been overkill as he doesn’t want to destroy the city, but it might have overwhelmed those giant droids easier.)

Droid shields…. mmmm yeah…. they took ages to get through the shields on one droid, (the battledroid sequence was a part that dragged a bit for me, much as I liked it) and then the rancor pushes the second into a building and the bricks break that second droid’s shields just like that.

They did explain that the shields protect from energy weapons and fast moving kinetic objects, so maybe falling debris moves slow enough to penetrate the shields and damage the shield emitters… but I’m not convinced of that. The rancor damaging a shield emmiter  with a swipe… that would actually be more believable.

How tough are wookies and rancors meant to be? Are they blaster proof? (I guess rancors are now.) Krrssantaan (possibly miss-spelt) seemed to get stabbed several times over several episodes, and while I can imagine that thick pelt would be pretty good defence against an ordinary blade, judging by his body language and bellowing, those weapons were hitting home… but he seemed to get over it pretty well, didn’t he?

But as I said earlier, I enjoyed the show overall and I think reviewers (not so much in this thread) are being too hard on this series.
: Re: The Book of Boba Fett [SPOILERS]
: Colin YNWA 15 May, 2022, 10:03:49 PM
Finally back on the trail after boy child got out of sync and Girl child decided she didn't want to catch up after all - so I'm, finally catching up with the boy child and we will watch from there... anyway only really came by to say

Episode 3 least energetic car chase EVER*.

*The car chase in Way of the Gun os slow but does not lack energy. Its an important difference.