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Title: Dave Gibbons' pre-2000 AD work
Post by: longmanshort on 16 February, 2010, 11:41:19 PM
Wow, look at me - two posts in a year! Blimey!

Am hoping someone can give me a little image help.

I'm on the hunt for images of Dave Gibbons' pre-2000 AD work...

I've drawn a blank so far - particularly on images from Powerman (Gibbons ones, not the ones Brian Bolland has posted on his website) and Hotspur - so wondered if anyone had original copies or original artwork they wouldn't mind scanning?

Cheers

Molcher
Title: Re: Dave Gibbons' pre-2000 AD work
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 February, 2010, 11:58:56 PM
He drew for Doctor Who magazine too.
Title: Re: Dave Gibbons' pre-2000 AD work
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 17 February, 2010, 12:03:03 AM
Quote from: longmanshort on 16 February, 2010, 11:41:19 PM

I'm on the hunt for images of Dave Gibbons' pre-2000 AD work...


Best of luck with that, MM! I recently tried (for no other reason than boredom) to track down online examples of Dave's pre-Tooth stuff with little success. I couldn't find anything on the DC Thompson stuff that predates Powerman.

I dunno if you've already seen this, but I did find this:

(http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/columns/pop/2008/1012/pop-5.jpg)

... as part of this (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18407) CBR piece.

Here's one I've only just turned up for you:

A job for Marvel dating from 1975! (http://diversionsofthegroovykind.blogspot.com/search/label/dave%20gibbons)

Hope that helps ...

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dave Gibbons' pre-2000 AD work
Post by: longmanshort on 17 February, 2010, 12:03:57 AM
Quote from: Garageman on 16 February, 2010, 11:58:56 PM
He drew for Doctor Who magazine too.

I know. Kinda hoping someone will have the first page of his Iron Legion story from issue one of DWM, which I remembered really vividly from when I was a kid.
Title: Re: Dave Gibbons' pre-2000 AD work
Post by: longmanshort on 17 February, 2010, 12:06:04 AM
It does indeed, mate - cheers!
Title: Re: Dave Gibbons' pre-2000 AD work
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 17 February, 2010, 12:10:19 AM
Quote from: longmanshort on 17 February, 2010, 12:06:04 AM
It does indeed, mate - cheers!

I'll confess to being slightly gob-smacked by that Marvel job -- there's barely enough of Gibbons' style in there to be recognisable, but there's a credit right there at the top of page one, and the lettering is unquestionably Dave's.

Cheers!

Jim
Title: Re: Dave Gibbons' pre-2000 AD work
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 17 February, 2010, 12:17:37 AM
Just chucked in here as an oddity:

How harsh is that ... to be a a really good artist but not be THAT Dave Gibbons! (http://www.david-gibbons.com/index.php/drawings)

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dave Gibbons' pre-2000 AD work
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 February, 2010, 12:19:56 AM
Quote from: longmanshort on 17 February, 2010, 12:03:57 AM
Quote from: Garageman on 16 February, 2010, 11:58:56 PM
He drew for Doctor Who magazine too.

I know. Kinda hoping someone will have the first page of his Iron Legion story from issue one of DWM, which I remembered really vividly from when I was a kid.


I have the two Wagner/Mills/ Gibbons collections. Don't have time to scan them though.

(http://www.bookpalace.com/acatalog/GibbonsDrwho19.jpg)
Title: Re: Dave Gibbons' pre-2000 AD work
Post by: maryanddavid on 17 February, 2010, 12:27:13 AM
One that he drew was for Wizard from DC thompson, I think it was called The Shark Men somewhere around 1975, I have them, but I dont think Illbe able to dig them out in time.

David
Title: Re: Dave Gibbons' pre-2000 AD work
Post by: Trout on 17 February, 2010, 12:34:32 AM
If people are Googling "DC Thomson" they would do well to use the correct spelling.
Title: Re: Dave Gibbons' pre-2000 AD work
Post by: Emperor on 17 February, 2010, 01:12:29 AM
Quote from: longmanshort on 17 February, 2010, 12:03:57 AM
Quote from: Garageman on 16 February, 2010, 11:58:56 PM
He drew for Doctor Who magazine too.

I know. Kinda hoping someone will have the first page of his Iron Legion story from issue one of DWM, which I remembered really vividly from when I was a kid.

I missed out on being able to help with the Captain Britain scanning Panini were doing (by one issue!!) but can help you here as I have quite a lot of the early issues just minus the transfers (OK they are stuck all over the inside covers, as they were meant to be) ;)

Do you just want the scan or I can send it somewhere if required?

While digging them out I found Blake's Seven #1 and 17!! Ian Kennedy and Phil Gascoine drawn stories, respectively. Happy days.
Title: Re: Dave Gibbons' pre-2000 AD work
Post by: Emperor on 17 February, 2010, 01:37:09 AM
Just for the record I also have this, which has a Freefall Warriors story in it (not the first one though, seems to be an original standalone sequel):

http://comicbookdb.com/issue.php?ID=42410

There is some lovely stuff in those specials, I have these too (plenty of droids on day release there):

http://comicbookdb.com/issue.php?ID=42410
http://comicbookdb.com/issue.php?ID=42529
Title: Re: Dave Gibbons' pre-2000 AD work
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 17 February, 2010, 10:04:35 AM
Have you tried Rufus, BTW, MM? He's no longer active here, but you can still reach him through Facebook ...

Cheers!

JIm
Title: Re: Dave Gibbons' pre-2000 AD work
Post by: uncle fester on 17 February, 2010, 11:02:10 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 17 February, 2010, 12:17:37 AM
Just chucked in here as an oddity:

How harsh is that ... to be a a really good artist but not be THAT Dave Gibbons! (http://www.david-gibbons.com/index.php/drawings)

Cheers

Jim

He's done some seriously nice digital matte paintings though!
Title: Re: Dave Gibbons' pre-2000 AD work
Post by: flip-r mk2 on 17 February, 2010, 12:20:16 PM
Not the greatest of scans.
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt99/flipray09/DrWhoWeekly001-02.jpg)
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt99/flipray09/DWSS1985_05.jpg)




filip
Title: Re: Dave Gibbons' pre-2000 AD work
Post by: Emperor on 17 February, 2010, 02:14:12 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 17 February, 2010, 10:04:35 AM
Have you tried Rufus, BTW, MM? He's no longer active here, but you can still reach him through Facebook ...

Also it'd be worth dropping in to Down The Tubes:

http://downthetubes.ning.com/

John Freeman is there along with a range of British comics creators and fans. They might be able to help or put the word out to others.
Title: Re: Dave Gibbons' pre-2000 AD work
Post by: Proudhuff on 17 February, 2010, 02:22:36 PM
The Iron legion has recently been reprinted:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/512WMNK2WYL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)

£8.47 from Amazon...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Doctor-Who-Legion-Complete-Fourth/dp/1904159370/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1266416412&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Doctor-Who-Legion-Complete-Fourth/dp/1904159370/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1266416412&sr=8-1)

Title: Re: Dave Gibbons' pre-2000 AD work
Post by: Colin YNWA on 17 February, 2010, 02:40:51 PM
Quote from: Proudhuff on 17 February, 2010, 02:22:36 PM
The Iron legion has recently been reprinted:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/512WMNK2WYL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)

£8.47 from Amazon...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Doctor-Who-Legion-Complete-Fourth/dp/1904159370/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1266416412&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Doctor-Who-Legion-Complete-Fourth/dp/1904159370/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1266416412&sr=8-1)



And an absolutely cracking read it is too. The first three Panini Books, Dragon's Claw (fourth Doctor also) and The Tides of Time (fifth Doctor) all feature Gibbons art to one degree or another and all three are brillant reads.
Title: Re: Dave Gibbons' pre-2000 AD work
Post by: Grant Goggans on 17 February, 2010, 03:59:48 PM
Does anybody know when he was on Hotspur?  I found a small lot of those a few weeks ago - they have some Ron Smith art - but I have not looked through them yet to see what fun might be inside.
Title: Re: Dave Gibbons' pre-2000 AD work
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 17 February, 2010, 04:12:41 PM
Quote from: Grant Goggans on 17 February, 2010, 03:59:48 PM
Does anybody know when he was on Hotspur?  I found a small lot of those a few weeks ago - they have some Ron Smith art - but I have not looked through them yet to see what fun might be inside.

I couldn't even find any info that was specific about the title (and, yes, I was spelling DC Thomson correctly when I was searching, Trout), only that Gibbons had done some work for DCT prior to Powerman. Mind you, I'd never turned up the link to that Marvel strip before yesterday ...

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dave Gibbons' pre-2000 AD work
Post by: Emperor on 17 February, 2010, 06:27:26 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 17 February, 2010, 04:12:41 PM
Quote from: Grant Goggans on 17 February, 2010, 03:59:48 PM
Does anybody know when he was on Hotspur?  I found a small lot of those a few weeks ago - they have some Ron Smith art - but I have not looked through them yet to see what fun might be inside.

I couldn't even find any info that was specific about the title (and, yes, I was spelling DC Thomson correctly when I was searching, Trout), only that Gibbons had done some work for DCT prior to Powerman. Mind you, I'd never turned up the link to that Marvel strip before yesterday ...

Of course the ideal situation would be if someone were to say... interview him and ask him about this, which would make the search easier. Pity that isn't happeni... now wait a minute...

That aside these might be useful, although not complete, no Hotspur, (and the former slightly confusing as it should be in chronological order but some more recent ones sneak in at the top):

http://www.comics.org/credit/name/Dave%20Gibbons/sort/chrono/
http://comicbookdb.com/creator_chron.php?ID=54

Perhaps scraping all the information together can help narrow down a wishlist.

So Chris Weston mentions "Spring-Heeled Jackson":
http://chrisweston.blogspot.com/2009/04/for-man-who-has-everything.html

The man himself confirms a story was in the Hotspur Annual 1978 (hmmmmm now I wonder if I have that? I have a load of old annuals I grabbed at school fairs and the like, were I got a huge stack of Look and Learn from):
http://bearalley.blogspot.com/2008/09/thomson-annuals-2009.html
Title: Re: Dave Gibbons' pre-2000 AD work
Post by: Emperor on 17 February, 2010, 06:36:56 PM
Quote from: Emperor on 17 February, 2010, 06:27:26 PMThe man himself confirms a story was in the Hotspur Annual 1978 (hmmmmm now I wonder if I have that? I have a load of old annuals I grabbed at school fairs and the like, were I got a huge stack of Look and Learn from):
http://bearalley.blogspot.com/2008/09/thomson-annuals-2009.html

Yep I have that Annual but there is no Spring_Heeled jackons in it but there is a very familiar style on the King Cobra (http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/k/kingcob.htm) story. I'm rubbish at spotting artist but it could be Gibbons although my gut says Ron Smith (same artist seems to have done the cover that can bee seen on that link).

Spring-Heeled Jackson appears in the 1979 Annual:
http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/s/sphldjak.htm
Title: Re: Dave Gibbons' pre-2000 AD work
Post by: Grant Goggans on 17 February, 2010, 08:23:49 PM
Just finished flipping through my Hotspurs, from 1980, and there's no Gibbons in them, and I was wrong about Ron Smith, too... I think I just glanced at them, saw King Cobra and assumed it was him, but it's clearly not.
Title: Re: Dave Gibbons' pre-2000 AD work
Post by: longmanshort on 18 February, 2010, 06:28:51 PM
Thanks guys, a massive help - especially that scan of Iron Legion!

FYI, according to Chris Weston, Dave's first strip was "The Wriggling Wrecker" in Wizard, 20 July to 21 December 1974 and his last published pre-2000 AD work was 24 Dec 1977. Though there was a Spring Heeled Jack in the '78 Hotspur annual.
Title: Re: Dave Gibbons' pre-2000 AD work
Post by: Leigh S on 18 February, 2010, 06:33:50 PM
dont have any of his professional work, though im sure i have some fanzine bits and pieces that predate 2000ad if thats any help?
Title: Re: Dave Gibbons' pre-2000 AD work
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 18 February, 2010, 06:41:06 PM
Quote from: Leigh Shepherd on 18 February, 2010, 06:33:50 PM
dont have any of his professional work, though im sure i have some fanzine bits and pieces that predate 2000ad if thats any help?

There are a number of fanzine pieces and assorted oddities in this gallery (http://davegibbonsfansite.com/cms/front_content.php?idcat=57) on the Dave Gibbons fan site ...

Cheers!

Jim
Title: Re: Dave Gibbons' pre-2000 AD work
Post by: longmanshort on 18 February, 2010, 07:29:17 PM
Quote from: Leigh Shepherd on 18 February, 2010, 06:33:50 PM
dont have any of his professional work, though im sure i have some fanzine bits and pieces that predate 2000ad if thats any help?

Anything and everything welcome, Leigh!
Title: Re: Dave Gibbons' pre-2000 AD work
Post by: Emperor on 18 February, 2010, 07:44:55 PM
Quote from: Emperor on 17 February, 2010, 02:14:12 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 17 February, 2010, 10:04:35 AM
Have you tried Rufus, BTW, MM? He's no longer active here, but you can still reach him through Facebook ...

Also it'd be worth dropping in to Down The Tubes:

http://downthetubes.ning.com/

John Freeman is there along with a range of British comics creators and fans. They might be able to help or put the word out to others.

OK I started a thread over there:
http://downthetubes.ning.com/xn/detail/887566:Topic:22248
Title: Re: Dave Gibbons' pre-2000 AD work
Post by: flip-r mk2 on 18 February, 2010, 08:15:49 PM
Here's another piece of art,from 'The House of Hammer' magazine dated Jan/Feb 1977.
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt99/flipray09/househam07_51.jpg)





filip
Title: Re: Dave Gibbons' pre-2000 AD work
Post by: Rio De Fideldo on 18 February, 2010, 08:19:05 PM
There's some examples of his early work in one of the Scream specials. Not sure if it was a reprint from a horror fanzine but it was a good example of early Dave Gibbons.

I don't have any scans available but not sure if Back from teh Depths may be able to help locate the original source. The special had an Eric Bradbury Dracula on the front cover.
Title: Re: Dave Gibbons' pre-2000 AD work
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 18 February, 2010, 08:32:03 PM
That Van Helsing page is f*cking brilliant.

Cheers!

Jim
Title: Re: Dave Gibbons' pre-2000 AD work
Post by: Emperor on 19 February, 2010, 10:44:05 PM
Quote from: Emperor on 18 February, 2010, 07:44:55 PMOK I started a thread over there:
http://downthetubes.ning.com/xn/detail/887566:Topic:22248

Jeremy Briggs has linked to this piece he wrote which includes a panel from Gibbons, drawing the fictional editor The Wanderer:

http://bearalley.blogspot.com/2007/12/bionic-arm.html
Title: Re: Dave Gibbons' pre-2000 AD work
Post by: Emperor on 20 February, 2010, 01:16:04 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 17 February, 2010, 12:03:03 AMHere's one I've only just turned up for you:

A job for Marvel dating from 1975! (http://diversionsofthegroovykind.blogspot.com/search/label/dave%20gibbons)

Hope that helps ...

The comments there also point to this, from 1974 with Dez Skinn:

http://booksteveslibrary.blogspot.com/2006/04/early-dave-gibbons.html
Title: Re: Dave Gibbons' pre-2000 AD work
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 20 February, 2010, 01:20:31 AM
Quote from: Emperor on 20 February, 2010, 01:16:04 AM
The comments there also point to this, from 1974 with Dez Skinn:

Which, to my eyes, oddly looks more like 'classic' Gibbons than the 1975 job.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dave Gibbons' pre-2000 AD work
Post by: Emperor on 20 February, 2010, 01:48:34 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 20 February, 2010, 01:20:31 AM
Quote from: Emperor on 20 February, 2010, 01:16:04 AM
The comments there also point to this, from 1974 with Dez Skinn:

Which, to my eyes, oddly looks more like 'classic' Gibbons than the 1975 job.

Well I suppose there is no guarantee that everything was published in order, or if something is a reprint. However, my guess is he either tried a different style as he thought it might be more marketable or someone was monkeying around with the inks. Something to ask him in the interview perhaps... I know I;d be interested ion his thoughts about his artistic inspirations and how his style has developed over the years (or formative years ;) ).