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Title: Napalm Death - Throes Of Joy In The Jaws Of Defeatism!
Post by: NapalmKev on 25 July, 2020, 06:13:41 PM
Five long years after the release of the successful (and absolutely outstanding) Apex Predator/Easy Meat, Napalm Death are finally releasing a new album. Available for pre-order from the following:


napalmrecords.com (https://napalmrecords.com/english/throes-of-joy-in-the-jaws-of-defeatism-cd.html) Standard CD and Media book versions.


The Decibel Store (https://store.decibelmagazine.com/products/napalm-death-throes-of-joy-in-the-jaws-of-defeatism-preorder) De-Weponised Steel and Black Swirled Vinyl.


Nuclear Blast (https://www.nuclearblast.de/en/products/tontraeger/cd/cd-digi-patch/napalm-death-throes-of-joy-in-the-jaws-of-defeatism-mediabook.html) Special edtion CD with 3 bonus tracks.


I personally cannot vouch for any of these companies as I've never used them!


I'll link to a couple of songs for the multitude one or two of you that may be interested.


Backlash Just Because (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFDHuCeaM_Y) which is a bonus track on the special edition. I like It.


White Kross (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQS6BqXEe9w) which is a cover song originally by Sonic Youth and is the B-Side to the available EP Logic Ravaged By Brute Force. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecqiuhmHeK0)


Enjoy!

Cheers





Title: Re: Napalm Death - Throes Of Joy In The Jaws Of Defeatism!
Post by: sintec on 25 July, 2020, 10:20:59 PM
Nuclear Blast have been around for ever (which in this instance is about 30 years). Not ordered anything from them in a long while but they were certainly reliable back in the day (i.e. the 90s).
Title: Re: Napalm Death - Throes Of Joy In The Jaws Of Defeatism!
Post by: repoman on 17 August, 2020, 08:23:48 PM
Backlash Just Because is good.  My fave Napalm Death bits always involve bits of jangly, discordant guitar.  It's like a little bit of a Killing Joke influence.
Title: Re: Napalm Death - Throes Of Joy In The Jaws Of Defeatism!
Post by: NapalmKev on 22 August, 2020, 07:23:58 AM
Another new song from ND and I'm guessing the forthcoming album is aimed at a wider audience. The music and vocals are still loud as hell and there's a lot going on in the production, as always, but there's definitely an element of groove, not just on Backlash but also on the new song, Amoral. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5ChaOiPZGo)

Can't blame the guys if they going for more widespread appeal. Extreme Metal isn't exactly a money maker of a genre!

I could be wrong about the rest of the album and it may be, on the whole, faster and more intense than Apex..., which I enjoyed a lot. I'm not looking for Version 2 of that album but I still want a hell of a lot of fast and heavy.

Just to be clear - I do like the new material but 5 years between albums is a long time and I need more raging intensity in my life!

Cheers
Title: Re: Napalm Death - Throes Of Joy In The Jaws Of Defeatism!
Post by: Greg M. on 22 August, 2020, 09:21:00 AM
Heading back more towards Fear, Emptiness, Despair and Diatribes?
Title: Re: Napalm Death - Throes Of Joy In The Jaws Of Defeatism!
Post by: NapalmKev on 22 August, 2020, 10:12:40 AM
Quote from: Greg M. on 22 August, 2020, 09:21:00 AM
Heading back more towards Fear, Emptiness, Despair and Diatribes?


I would say so although the new material has that abrasive edge that both those albums lacked. Good albums nonetheless but they're not played nearly as much as others (Apex.../Utopia Banished) and nothing in their discography gets played more than Enemy Of The Music Business.

I've claimed other albums were my faves in the past but EOTMB is the one that cemented my love of the band and is the greatest album of all time.

Cheers
Title: Re: Napalm Death - Throes Of Joy In The Jaws Of Defeatism!
Post by: Greg M. on 22 August, 2020, 10:25:53 AM
I've had a listen now and I can see what you mean about Amoral - it's catchy, but it's got a much rawer, punker sound than something like Greed Killing. Still an interesting direction - maybe Apex really was the apex of their ferocity.
Title: Re: Napalm Death - Throes Of Joy In The Jaws Of Defeatism!
Post by: NapalmKev on 05 September, 2020, 09:27:34 AM
Napalm Death release another track from the soon to be released Throes Of Joy... and it's experimental to say the least.


This is A Belly Full Of Salt And Spleen! (http://a%20belly%20full%20of%20salt%20and%20spleen!)


It starts more in the vein of tracks such as Evolved As One and Apex Predator but then becomes it's own thing entirely. It's brutal and slow but it changes it's sound just before the midway point, the song being 4:45 mins in length,


I like it a lot and the accompanying video Is something you need to see. Even if you aren't a fan of the music I would recommend viewing the video.


I'm impressed and my anticipation for the full album is ever increasing.


Cheers

Title: Re: Napalm Death - Throes Of Joy In The Jaws Of Defeatism!
Post by: NapalmKev on 05 September, 2020, 09:42:43 AM
Well, I ballsed that link right up!


A Belly Full Of Salt And Spleen! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLKjpobj4vg)


Cheers
Title: Re: Napalm Death - Throes Of Joy In The Jaws Of Defeatism!
Post by: broodblik on 05 September, 2020, 11:06:19 AM
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Title: Re: Napalm Death - Throes Of Joy In The Jaws Of Defeatism!
Post by: NapalmKev on 06 September, 2020, 09:24:51 AM
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For those who are looking for more Napalm Death goodness try their official website - Napalm Death official (https://napalmdeath.org/scum/)


They also have a new store where you can buy direct from the band rather than through a third-party site - Napalm Death Store (https://napalm-death-merchandising.com/)


Cheers
Title: Re: Napalm Death - Throes Of Joy In The Jaws Of Defeatism!
Post by: Magnetica on 07 September, 2020, 12:32:45 PM
I have never really got Napalm Death. I have never been able to get passed the vocal style.

I do like a bit of powerful, noisy music, but only where there is singing, compared to the growling / grunting vocal style.

And apologies I don't mean that to sound disrespectful- if there is a better way to describe it, then please let me know.

I am interested though, to understand the attraction.
Title: Re: Napalm Death - Throes Of Joy In The Jaws Of Defeatism!
Post by: NapalmKev on 07 September, 2020, 04:14:41 PM
Quote from: Magnetica on 07 September, 2020, 12:32:45 PM
I have never really got Napalm Death. I have never been able to get passed the vocal style.

I do like a bit of powerful, noisy music, but only where there is singing, compared to the growling / grunting vocal style.

To be honest growling and grunting is probably the best way to describe the vocals. Although to be fair to the lead singer, his Shouts and shrieks have had rare instances of melody in recent years.


Quote from: Magnetica on 07 September, 2020, 12:32:45 PM
And apologies I don't mean that to sound disrespectful- if there is a better way to describe it, then please let me know.

I am interested though, to understand the attraction.


I always had a yearning for the exotic even as a youngster. My older brother had Kings Of The Wild Frontier by Adam & The Ants which I used to play endlessly. Then I graduated to Alice Coopers' Poison and such like. I was 11 and this faze didn't last as soon after I discovered Anthrax and Thrash Metal in general. My love of speed* was born!

And then I came across Diatribes by ND. Arguably not very heavy by today's standards but at the time it blew me away. The perfect culmination of fast intense and Heavy music with Politically charged lyrics. It just clicked with me more than anything else ever had before...and since.


Cheers

*Not the Drug! Awful stuff.
Title: Re: Napalm Death - Throes Of Joy In The Jaws Of Defeatism!
Post by: Barrington Boots on 09 September, 2020, 09:35:13 AM
The latest track is very Godflesh-y whilst I thought Amoral was quite reminiscent of stuff like Amebix / Killing Joke. I didn't like 'A Bellyfull..' at all but that's never been a sound I've been into in fairness.

It feels like a bold decision to make such a stylistic shift but the signs were there on Apex Predator and they can't keep bashing out the same albums forever. I think it's important in extreme music to push your own boundaries and always do what you want rather than fall into a pattern of rote albums like, say, Slayer.

I'm not hopeful I'm going to enjoy the album but I'm definitely interested to hear it in full.
Title: Re: Napalm Death - Throes Of Joy In The Jaws Of Defeatism!
Post by: NapalmKev on 09 September, 2020, 03:16:02 PM
Quote from: Barrington Boots on 09 September, 2020, 09:35:13 AM

It feels like a bold decision to make such a stylistic shift but the signs were there on Apex Predator and they can't keep bashing out the same albums forever. I think it's important in extreme music to push your own boundaries and always do what you want rather than fall into a pattern of rote albums like, say, Slayer.


I get what you mean with Slayer. I would say they've ridden that same sound for their entire career. I do like Seasons In The Abyss, though.

Another band that always made a ton of money for doing the same thing over and over is Cannibal Corpse. Some good tunes aside their lyrics are awful, IMO. Shock rather than substance, I won't horrify any of the Forum members by posting CC's nonsense. I would recommend that people listen the album KILL. It's probably the best of their output, again, IMO.


Cheers
Title: Re: Napalm Death - Throes Of Joy In The Jaws Of Defeatism!
Post by: Barrington Boots on 09 September, 2020, 04:12:52 PM
The trick with Slayer is that when they first started out they were very unique and had their own sound. I'm not sure at what point their albums started being Slayer-by-numbers as I lost interest in them when they put out Diabolus (which ironically was a change of sound, just a very very bad one) but every time I hear anything off any of their recent albums they sound like tired rehashes from a band who can't experiment, because their fanbase won't let them, but are happy not having any new ideas.

I have a great fondness for early Cannibal Corpse but they definitely peaked around 1994 and everything afterwards is technically very tight and brutal but also a bit uninspired. I genuinely couldn't tell you the difference between albums after a while, which is when it's probably time for a band to stop.

Anyway, I'm glad ND aren't treading this path!
Title: Re: Napalm Death - Throes Of Joy In The Jaws Of Defeatism!
Post by: NapalmKev on 25 September, 2020, 04:05:01 PM
Well then, it's been out for a week and I've listened to it several times. In fact I'm listening to it right now!

Throes Of Joy In The Jaws Of Defeatism is absolutely brilliant! A masterpiece of an album which manages the rare trick in music, actually wanting to listen to the whole thing rather than the skipping the odd track filler of a lot of modern music. I realize that last sentence probably makes little to no sense but I regret nothing!

This is a Riff-Heavy album with audible guitars and Drums that make you want to Groove and Funk in addition to the ever present and ever welcome Blastbeats. This is some of their best material, IMO and was certainly worth the five year wait (although we did get Coded Smears And More Uncommon Slurs a while back now, but I digress). Easily makes my top five favorites from their catalogue.

TL;DR - It's Excellent, Buy it!

Cheers
Title: Re: Napalm Death - Throes Of Joy In The Jaws Of Defeatism!
Post by: Barrington Boots on 28 September, 2020, 09:49:37 AM
I'm still not sure on the album, but your enthusiasm is convincing me to stick with it!

Out of interest Kev, what are your top five ND albums?
Title: Re: Napalm Death - Throes Of Joy In The Jaws Of Defeatism!
Post by: NapalmKev on 28 September, 2020, 03:27:45 PM
Quote from: Barrington Boots on 28 September, 2020, 09:49:37 AM

Out of interest Kev, what are your top five ND albums?


1: Enemy Of The Music Business. The album that cemented my love for the band. Best album of all time, in my humble opinion.

2: Now it gets difficult to decide - Either Apex Predator or Utopia Banished, I really can't decide.

4: Throes Of Joy. Although arguably not as intense as the previous release it has some their best riffs.

5: Order Of The Leech. Great album full of Death Metal goodness. It's very well produced with everything being audible. Top drumming!

Cheers
Title: Re: Napalm Death - Throes Of Joy In The Jaws Of Defeatism!
Post by: Barrington Boots on 28 September, 2020, 04:07:11 PM
Cheers! I agree that Enemy of the Music Business is the absolute best. Apex Predator would rank very highly for me, and From Enslavment.. I need to revisit some of their back catalogue, a lot of their latter period I kind of skipped before Apex brought me back into them.
If you're heavily into your grind, I've been listening to Leng Tche today.
Title: Re: Napalm Death - Throes Of Joy In The Jaws Of Defeatism!
Post by: repoman on 30 September, 2020, 04:04:12 PM
Quote from: Barrington Boots on 09 September, 2020, 09:35:13 AM
The latest track is very Godflesh-y whilst I thought Amoral was quite reminiscent of stuff like Amebix / Killing Joke. I didn't like 'A Bellyfull..'

This made me check out Amoral because I love KJ. 

Yeah that was GREAT.

It's like I said earlier in the thread.  Napalm Death are always best when they put in the jangly discordant stuff in with the heavy goodness.

That's close to edging out Silence Is Deafening as my favourite ND track.
Title: Re: Napalm Death - Throes Of Joy In The Jaws Of Defeatism!
Post by: repoman on 01 October, 2020, 09:21:21 AM
And now I've listened to it like 30 times since yesterday.  I love it so much.  Amoral is amazing.
Title: Re: Napalm Death - Throes Of Joy In The Jaws Of Defeatism!
Post by: RocketMother on 04 October, 2020, 06:11:05 PM
I haven't heard this yet. The only Napalm album I've sat down and listened to in its entirety is Apex Predator. I remember being both impressed and afraid of the Dalek type noises coming out of my speakers before the onslaught of sheer noise that followed.

If Throes is anything like Apex Predator (which is sounds like it is) then I should be in for a good time when I give it a go.
Title: Re: Napalm Death - Throes Of Joy In The Jaws Of Defeatism!
Post by: Barrington Boots on 06 October, 2020, 11:39:56 AM
Quote from: repoman on 01 October, 2020, 09:21:21 AM
And now I've listened to it like 30 times since yesterday.  I love it so much.  Amoral is amazing.

The best way to listen to music! One of the coolest things about WFH for me.
Title: Re: Napalm Death - Throes Of Joy In The Jaws Of Defeatism!
Post by: repoman on 18 October, 2020, 03:06:03 PM
This album might be my fave ND one yet.  Every song has something interesting about it.  It's not just all blast Beata and power chords.