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Title: Prog 2030 Fearful Symmetry
Post by: Proudhuff on 06 May, 2017, 02:13:01 PM
Burning Bright indeed!

Stunning cover that really jumps out at you, modern, clean and hi-tech without losing the human element.
Nice one INJ.

TMO goads us with his magnificence then tells us Greysuit is returning  :'(
Damage report uses the old BFH!

Dredd: Eglington and Dyer ( and Blythe and Parkhouse) deliver a pitchperfect tale:loverly set up, is that Dredd or another couple of Helmets ? don't see the Badge but they have his deportment.

Defoe: McNeil continues to make this interesting, the random appearance of reeks seems....well random.

Brink: totally wonderful. nice pacing, great breadcrumb trail and stunning art and colouring, layout and lettering help make this cracking stuff.

Scarlet Traces:totally wonderful. nice pacing and stunning art and colouring, layout and lettering help make this cracking stuff.

Cursed, for me, none of the above. But five pages with one small speech balloon is a brave bit of storytelling and I salute it!

But'man: There's a letters page with pics! fire up the beast  ;)

Praise the Lard! advert for latest Hachette 'Fast Food' on back page.




Title: Re: Prog 2030 Fearful Symmetry
Post by: Tjm86 on 06 May, 2017, 03:06:25 PM
This week's prog is stunning work artistically.  Dyer is evolving incredibly.  Macneil, sublime.  Culbard, gigantic strides.  D'israeli, outstanding.  Kendall, suitably and subtly freaky.  This is what gets me about the tooth, at it's worst it is merely mediocre.  Then it suddenly fires off all cylinders at once and all you can do is just stand there slack jawed in admiration.

<waynes world>  We're not worthy.  We're not worthy.  </waynes world>
Title: Re: Prog 2030 Fearful Symmetry
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 06 May, 2017, 08:01:37 PM
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r182/Caliban_photos/2030_zpsu60q3ufq.jpg)
Title: Re: Prog 2030 Fearful Symmetry
Post by: Geoff on 06 May, 2017, 08:29:23 PM
Zarjaz!
Title: Prog 2030 Fearful Symmetry
Post by: JoFox2108 on 06 May, 2017, 08:56:20 PM
I absolutely love this week's Dredd!  Dyer and Eglington's work looks AMAZING.  It's not just good art and good story-telling, you can feel the attitudes in the characters.  The scene in the clubhouse reminds me very much of a scene in the film American  History X.  I also really enjoyed the colours - lovely work by Chris Blythe.

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Title: Re: Prog 2030 Fearful Symmetry
Post by: Colin YNWA on 06 May, 2017, 09:04:37 PM
The Prog is still on fine form. Not quite everything is firing on all cylinders but its pretty much up there.

Dredd takes a down turn but is still bloody excellent. Its churlish to compare this episode to the last and so lets celebrate it on its own terms and its bloody good. Eglington is turning into a damned decent Dredd writer and this episode has a great balance and provides a great start to waht promises to be a very interesting story. All beautifully drawn by Nick Dyer.

Defoe continues to dig itself back to what it was before (all always falters to decieve in its ealry episodes!) bouyed only by some great MacNeil art.

Brink procedurals its self back to the very best and is just brilliant again.

Scarlet Traces continues to be engaging and fascinating

Deadworld well lordy me if an artist ever delievered a statement that he's not just style over substance this fantastic piece of storytelling from Dave Kendall is it. Kek-W dials it back so the art can shine and by the dark gods does it make for a quite chillin' quite thrillin' episode. Comics done by people who know what makes comics shine.

Tharg you old beauty you. Keep it up sir.
Title: Re: Prog 2030 Fearful Symmetry
Post by: moly on 07 May, 2017, 09:06:59 AM
Great prog but what stands out for me is brink didn't really take to the first run but this one is great
Title: Re: Prog 2030 Fearful Symmetry
Post by: CalHab on 07 May, 2017, 10:22:39 AM
Brink is the highlight for me this week. I loved the art in the first series but struggled to engage with the story, there was so much going on. This series benefits from a much clearer storyline and, incredibly, the art is even better.
Title: Re: Prog 2030 Fearful Symmetry
Post by: Jacqusie on 07 May, 2017, 05:14:21 PM
Quote from: Proudhuff on 06 May, 2017, 02:13:01 PM



Defoe: McNeil continues to make this interesting, the random appearance of reeks seems....well random.




I'm glad it wasn't just me who thought that! -the art is so good, I'm not going to get too hung up on the finer details of a wonky script - unless it goes well south that is!
Title: Re: Prog 2030 Fearful Symmetry
Post by: Proudhuff on 08 May, 2017, 10:37:21 AM
Quote from: Jacqusie on 07 May, 2017, 05:14:21 PM
Quote from: Proudhuff on 06 May, 2017, 02:13:01 PM
Defoe: McNeil continues to make this interesting, the random appearance of reeks seems....well random.
I'm glad it wasn't just me who thought that! -the art is so good, I'm not going to get too hung up on the finer details of a wonky script - unless it goes well south that is!

Didn't the reeks use to be mindless? or am I getting my zombies mixed up? These ones seem to have read all of Gerald Winstanley's work!!
Title: Re: Prog 2030 Fearful Symmetry
Post by: Richard on 08 May, 2017, 07:05:43 PM
Most reeks are mindless but there are some exceptions, although I've forgotten why.
Title: Re: Prog 2030 Fearful Symmetry
Post by: ZenArcade on 08 May, 2017, 07:06:55 PM
That's some front cover! Z
Title: Re: Prog 2030 Fearful Symmetry
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 09 May, 2017, 01:08:29 PM
Scarlet Traces:
I grok Martian, or at least Doopspeak:
It's all nonsense and not plot points I'm afraid.
I don't know if this is from Ian, Matt or Annie but it does read like some strange martian poetry.

[spoiler]Got a hole in your panty
Got a big behind like Frankenstein
Going beep beep beep
Down Sesame street
In your ear with a can of beer
Up your butt with a coconut
You got big red eyes like cherry pies
You blow up like a toad and then explode[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Prog 2030 Fearful Symmetry
Post by: JUDGE BURNS on 09 May, 2017, 10:07:11 PM
Tuesday and still no prog on the doorstep.  :-(
Title: Re: Prog 2030 Fearful Symmetry
Post by: TordelBack on 09 May, 2017, 10:33:52 PM
Quote from: Eamonn Clarke on 09 May, 2017, 01:08:29 PM
Scarlet Traces:
I grok Martian, or at least Doopspeak:
It's all nonsense and not plot points I'm afraid.
I don't know if this is from Ian, Matt or Annie but it does read like some strange martian poetry.

[spoiler]Got a hole in your panty
Got a big behind like Frankenstein
Going beep beep beep
Down Sesame street
In your ear with a can of beer
Up your butt with a coconut
You got big red eyes like cherry pies
You blow up like a toad and then explode[/spoiler]

Daphne & Celeste?!?  Tomorrow morning can't come soon enough.
Title: Re: Prog 2030 Fearful Symmetry
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 10 May, 2017, 08:57:44 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 09 May, 2017, 10:33:52 PM
Quote from: Eamonn Clarke on 09 May, 2017, 01:08:29 PM
Scarlet Traces:
I grok Martian, or at least Doopspeak:
It's all nonsense and not plot points I'm afraid.
I don't know if this is from Ian, Matt or Annie but it does read like some strange martian poetry.

[spoiler]Got a hole in your panty
Got a big behind like Frankenstein
Going beep beep beep
Down Sesame street
In your ear with a can of beer
Up your butt with a coconut
You got big red eyes like cherry pies
You blow up like a toad and then explode[/spoiler]

Daphne & Celeste?!?  Tomorrow morning can't come soon enough.

Thanks, well spotted. They are indeed the lyrics for Ooh stick you.
Title: Re: Prog 2030 Fearful Symmetry
Post by: norton canes on 10 May, 2017, 09:42:52 AM
Only just bought the prog, haven't even opened it yet, but what a cover. What a cover!
Title: Re: Prog 2030 Fearful Symmetry
Post by: staticgirl on 10 May, 2017, 11:28:24 AM
Also popping in to celebrate the cover. It's also a case where the byline and the image work perfectly together. Props to all concerned.
Title: Re: Prog 2030 Fearful Symmetry
Post by: Smith on 10 May, 2017, 02:05:06 PM
Sons of Booth is an interesting one...Terrible acronym btw.
TBH,I'm really feed up with everything else.
Title: Re: Prog 2030 Fearful Symmetry
Post by: Proudhuff on 10 May, 2017, 02:36:24 PM
Quote from: Eamonn Clarke on 10 May, 2017, 08:57:44 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 09 May, 2017, 10:33:52 PM
Quote from: Eamonn Clarke on 09 May, 2017, 01:08:29 PM
Scarlet Traces:
I grok Martian, or at least Doopspeak:
It's all nonsense and not plot points I'm afraid.
I don't know if this is from Ian, Matt or Annie but it does read like some strange martian poetry.

[spoiler]Got a hole in your panty
Got a big behind like Frankenstein
Going beep beep beep
Down Sesame street
In your ear with a can of beer
Up your butt with a coconut
You got big red eyes like cherry pies
You blow up like a toad and then explode[/spoiler]

Daphne & Celeste?!?  Tomorrow morning can't come soon enough.

Thanks, well spotted. They are indeed the lyrics for Ooh stick you.

Had to google that and still none the wiser....
Title: Re: Prog 2030 Fearful Symmetry
Post by: norton canes on 11 May, 2017, 01:46:26 PM
Cover: As I implied upthread, it's an exquisitely rendered work of utter beauty

Dredd: Intriguing. Plenty of satirical focus of course, I'm sure there'll be a great story to go with it. There seem to be some references I'm missing - from Sons of Anarchy? 'Sprayy'?

Defoe: Sets up what I presume will be the plot for this arc. What's 'Vizard'? Mills-speak for 'wizard'?

Brink: Glorious. I think this is a comics version of AMSR. It just completely blisses me out. What are those blue things swirly around in the last page? Some sort of torch projections?

Scarlet Traces: Still the only under-performer. It's a decent read but it's not gripping me like the other strips.

Deadworld: Speechless!

Title: Re: Prog 2030 Fearful Symmetry
Post by: The Corinthian on 11 May, 2017, 03:50:32 PM
Quote from: norton canes on 11 May, 2017, 01:46:26 PMWhat's 'Vizard'? Mills-speak for 'wizard'?

It's a type of mask. Mills has appropriated it as a 17th century synonym for "superhero".

This being a Mills strip, superheroes are obviously treated as noble and incorruptible beings whose motives and conduct are beyond reproach.
Title: Re: Prog 2030 Fearful Symmetry
Post by: Smith on 11 May, 2017, 05:17:46 PM
Yes,this being the man who inspired Garth Ennis...
Title: Re: Prog 2030 Fearful Symmetry
Post by: Rara Avis on 11 May, 2017, 06:11:55 PM
I'm not usually a fan of Deadworld but the strip this week was phenomenal.

Re: Brink, I'm a bit confused about what's happening here. [spoiler]When did Junot Snr go missing?
What was in the last Brink run?[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Prog 2030 Fearful Symmetry
Post by: Tiplodocus on 12 May, 2017, 12:09:06 AM
Loved the prog  from cover to cover.

Who needs a tv series?
Title: Re: Prog 2030 Fearful Symmetry
Post by: Magnetica on 12 May, 2017, 07:13:13 AM
Quote from: Rara Avis on 11 May, 2017, 06:11:55 PM
I'm not usually a fan of Deadworld but the strip this week was phenomenal.

Re: Brink, I'm a bit confused about what's happening here. [spoiler]When did Junot Snr go missing?
What was in the last Brink run?[/spoiler]

Re [spoiler]when did Junot Snr go missing[/spoiler] - it is mentioned in the dialogue in the first episode of the current series.
Title: Re: Prog 2030 Fearful Symmetry
Post by: TordelBack on 12 May, 2017, 07:31:37 AM
Quote from: Eamonn Clarke on 10 May, 2017, 08:57:44 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 09 May, 2017, 10:33:52 PM
Quote from: Eamonn Clarke on 09 May, 2017, 01:08:29 PM
Scarlet Traces:
I grok Martian, or at least Doopspeak:
It's all nonsense and not plot points I'm afraid.
I don't know if this is from Ian, Matt or Annie but it does read like some strange martian poetry.

[spoiler]Got a hole in your panty
Got a big behind like Frankenstein
Going beep beep beep
Down Sesame street
In your ear with a can of beer
Up your butt with a coconut
You got big red eyes like cherry pies
You blow up like a toad and then explode[/spoiler]

Daphne & Celeste?!?  Tomorrow morning can't come soon enough.

Thanks, well spotted. They are indeed the lyrics for Ooh stick you.

Holy crap, just read the episode - I thought you were kidding, but that's actually the transliteration!  Cheeky buggers!

Some context for the innocent: https://youtu.be/_hnxies4Wtk (https://youtu.be/_hnxies4Wtk)
Title: Re: Prog 2030 Fearful Symmetry
Post by: Rara Avis on 12 May, 2017, 04:15:04 PM
Is that the first mention of it ever? It's not referencing a previous story?


Quote from: Magnetica on 12 May, 2017, 07:13:13 AM
Re [spoiler]when did Junot Snr go missing[/spoiler] - it is mentioned in the dialogue in the first episode of the current series.
Title: Re: Prog 2030 Fearful Symmetry
Post by: TordelBack on 12 May, 2017, 06:14:12 PM
Quote from: Rara Avis on 12 May, 2017, 04:15:04 PM
Is that the first mention of it ever? It's not referencing a previous story?

It is in the sense that the climax of the last series was [spoiler]the sudden disappearance of Mercury[/spoiler], and that's where the gentleman was, as established in the first episode of the current series.  The local repercussions of a larger mystery, essentially.
Title: Re: Prog 2030 Fearful Symmetry
Post by: moly on 13 May, 2017, 03:28:32 PM
anyone received this week issue yet ?
Title: Re: Prog 2030 Fearful Symmetry
Post by: A.Cow on 14 May, 2017, 01:53:31 AM
Quote from: The Corinthian on 11 May, 2017, 03:50:32 PM
Quote from: norton canes on 11 May, 2017, 01:46:26 PMWhat's 'Vizard'? Mills-speak for 'wizard'?
It's a type of mask. Mills has appropriated it as a 17th century synonym for "superhero".

I must admit that's a pretty clever choice -- direct reference to "masks" yet also evocative of "wizard".  Whatever his faults, Pat Mills is astonishing at carrying out background research to put into stories.
Title: Re: Prog 2030 Fearful Symmetry
Post by: Smith on 14 May, 2017, 05:26:50 AM
Or he might be a Bleach fan.
Title: Re: Prog 2030 Fearful Symmetry
Post by: Jacqusie on 18 June, 2017, 01:52:21 AM
Late again...

I wonder if the droid that used dark green font colour for the Dredd title 'Sons of Booth' - then placed it over a black shadow - rendering it invisible - has been to visit Mek-Quake yet?

:|
Title: Re: Prog 2030 Fearful Symmetry
Post by: SuperSurfer on 18 June, 2017, 02:18:53 AM
Quote from: Jacqusie on 18 June, 2017, 01:52:21 AM
I wonder if the droid that used dark green font colour for the Dredd title 'Sons of Booth' - then placed it over a black shadow - rendering it invisible - has been to visit Mek-Quake yet?
:|
Ouch. Almost invisible in my copy. I see it shows up on this online version:

(https://i1.wp.com/downthetubes.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/2000AD-2030-Dredd.jpg?resize=768%2C1010)

It will most likely be an overprint setting rather than to do with colour choice. Kind of thing that might show ok on screen but doesn't knock out of the background at the repro stage.