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[Dredd]

Hmmmm...

Well let's get too it shall we. Dredd, good in some ways, annoying in others. Why was this 8 pages? Rob Williams seems to get these extended endings a lot and this one just felt so indulgent and just wasn't justified for needed. The story ends as so many have done before BUT in this instance that's disappointing ... or is it... we don't know yet... I hope. So to be of any value this needs to open something else. If Moon is just gone and the point is "Death's coming... won't be long now." that's weak. If Moon's fate has some ramifications for Dredd and Williams' Dredd tales and take on the character then fine. It not this is just annoying as it stands.

This tale was enjoyable enough fun on one level but offered little new except that key specific of the ending which leaves a lot of questions... or not... and if its the latter its just poor... hmmm what a strange ending.

Everything else is top draw mind.

Aquila - nice turn of events.

Indigo Prime great stuff, and now want to re-read to piece a few bits together. I think I have a reading that works for me, we'll see but this was great.

Brink - genius as ever.

Proteus Vex - yes but she's the fun kinda mass murder. What a character what a story!

So great Prog except a decent Dredd that's left me with more questions than answers... I hope...

Oh oh oh. Keep forgetting to say for alternative superhero takes the best two are from the house of Tharg (well ish) in Zenith and New Statesmen from Crisis which is next door to Tharg's Thrill-house so we'll take it as ours hey.

No doubt you've read them Doomlord666 but they need to be mentioned in any conversation of this type.

[The Tiger]

The Tiger

2015 film about the hunt for the last tiger in Korea in 1910s when Korea was under Japanese rule. The tiger is very much a mythical beast in this and the one mistake this film makes is moving away the barely seen flashes of tigerinessin the trees and bushes, we see in the opening hour which are just superb into full blown CGI tiger monster we see bashing numerous folks around in the second half.

It moves the tiger away from mythical mountain lord preparing to ascend to godhood that is so central to this piece and its themes of the old ways moving on and the cost of this. I see why they do it as it humanises the tiger as a character which is also important but I'm sure this could have been done without going full hulk tiger mode.

That aside an exquisite film with some fantastic central performances, wonderful cinematography and which pack quite the emotional punch. So moving and so well done.

Its on Amazon prime and well worth a go if you have a sub there.

Following a previous review I've nearly finished reading Elektra Assassin for the very first time. I did see it on shelves near the time it came out but I think I was put off buying it by the art which looked a bit pretentious. Let's face it, it is a bit pretentious, but it's also ruddy good - love it!

Nice! Glad you enjoyed it.

Kill or Be Killed has been on my list for so long now, believe it was billed to me at TB years ago as 'Satanic Panic Button Man' and yeah, looks dope.

Ha! That's an interesting take on it. Read it and make your mind up Zac.

It's Lonely at the Centre of the Earth by Zoe Thorogood

Wonderful book. I hope everyone her owns a copy.

That's another one I fully intent to check out at some point DAMN SO MANTY DAMAGED GOOD COMICS OUT THERE...

Anyway if anyone else has recommendations for comics or graphic novels like KOBK or ones that have a different take on the superhero story I'd be interested

Black Hammer is perhaps an obvious one, and pretty great. Ordinary, if you've not read it in the Meg, flips superheroes on its head quite nicely, and is currently two quid if Forbidden Planet for the hardcover.

Hmmm Black Hammer. Is it making the list Colin? I didn't make it past the first series because of the way it went a bit up its own arsehole. The journey up to that point was pretty good. I was wondering about picking it up again as there has been quite a bit more, and it generally reviews well. I need a write-up, Colin!

Yeah Black Hammer really is the obvious go to for recommendations of alternative takes on Superheroes. In many ways its the only superhero comic you need as it covers so much ground.

Its defo on the list but will need some thought as I'm still trying to process 'The End' and work out if I liked it or not. Its place was determined before it started (or as it just started). I might read The End again to see if it worked ahead of my write up.

Norm Breyfogle's Detective Comics stuff is, for my money, criminally under-rated with some absolutely insane stuff going on. 

I think its a bit liek Nocenti's DD run. It might not be top of many lists but its starting to get the credit it deserves and more and more positive reflections... certainly will here!

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IRREDEEMABLE - Story by Mark Waid, Art by Peter Krause & Diego Barreto
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MY BAD - Story by Bryce Ingman, Mark Russell, Art by Peter Krause
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THE VICTORIES - Story & Art by Michael Avon Oeming

Yep, yep and The Victories is a good call. Not on the list but I really enjoyed it.

Colin: I've been reading through hundreds of Panini Marvel reprints that cover the 2000s, and figuring out which I want to keep. Turns out, the answer is 'none of them', including the mostly strong Mighty World of Marvel. However, I have used them (and 'temporary' ownership of the first 60 volumes of the original Hachette Marvel collection) to govern some deluxe/omni purchases, most of which are relatively standalone own nature. I really enjoyed:

I've got a few of these I kinda randomly picked up and must crack them open as they make for great try out material and can be picked up for bobbins.

I didn't get on with The Visions - which surprises me as I love the other King stuff I've read. Similarly the Slott Allred Silver Surfer didn't work for me, much as I love Allred's art.

Ms Marvel is another one I must get around to trying at some point.

Now I'm just left with my extensive Batman collection which will be a harder wrench. I have a 1940's Batman comic, a good many Batman and Detective from the 1960's and straight runs of both from 1970's and 80's. It would involve a lot of work to grade and document these and I don't have the time or inclination yet. Apologies for going a bit off topic.

There will never be a need to apologise for talking about any comics here. I mean the one who drifted into Usagi Yojimbo talk way ahead of time hint hint).

Wow! That sounds like a really impressive Batman collection, really impressive. Which are your fav runs. I have two more Batman runs still to appear here. Nothing as exciting as is in your collection I imagine.

It would be well worth organising as there may well be some decent value there (as I suspect you know) so even if its just for insurance purposes at least listing would be a good idea I reckon. I use a cateloguing app to track my collection. That's as much so I have good record of what has passed through my collection, as its quite an active thing. I've hit space limits and so any as I get new stuff, older stuff has to go. I'm currently in a bit of a paradigm shift in my tastes (as this thread will start to reveal I suspect) and so there's a LOT of that going on at the moment.

All of which is a very long winded way of saying part of what I love about collecting is the ongoing cateloguing, sorting and rearranging of shelves. I sometimes wonder if I enjoy that as much as reading them! I'm still a librarian at heart I guess.

BTW Fatale is coming out as a single issue softback Compendium collection at the end of July (656 pages of Brubaker/Phillips goodness for £36 via awesomebooks). Hope their other stuff will be released in a similar format

Also meant to say things for the heads up on this one. I've added it to my list of go to places (alongside Speedy Hen) before I go to amazon. Nice one.

Ha! I mean, there are still copies in the channel, so it's not like you need to buy it tomorrow. But if you start to see it vanish from various stores, I wouldn't hang about too long. When that happened last time, it was years until a reprint happened, and the set went for silly money on eBay. (There are the paperback trades as well, of course, although I've no idea how easy – or not – they are to source these days.)

Yeah having dome a little watch of Near Mint Conditions review (should have done that before pestering you fine folks) it looks lovely and a good size for a comfortable (well in the boundaries of at least) read. The only question is how long after the 18th (payday) will I last? I got Usagi Yojimbo Saga Volume 5 this month as I'm trying to make sure I get all of them before the start to disappear (same for Giant Days Library Editions).

You've totally sold me on 'Kill or be Killed' there!

Nice - hope you love it. 

I'm curious how excited I am about more Intestinauts. Really looking forward to it!

Think it might just been with the last couple of line-ups want something a bit light a fun but good and this one ticks those boxes.

Yes. Saga is the UY DH content. The Fantagraphics set is basically everything that came beforehand – the first seven trades with a cover gallery and interview in the second book. The set was also OOP for years and so I imagine it would be smart to buy it sooner rather than later if you're interested.

EDIT: Er, sorry, PsychoGoatee. I wasn't trying to duplicate your post – my browser didn't see it. *kicks the cache machine*

Thanks to you both... though maybe not Indigo Prime whose given me FOMO! Must wait until pay day as I've spent too much on comics this month already... must wait....

Hi Funt, it's absolutely nothing to do with comicsgate. Whilst I do think identity politics is the enemy of class struggle I don't think I have to be inappropriately politically labelled just because I look at a list of creators and think 'Christ, nothing for me there'.

It might be the way you say 'types' of creator as if there is some unified 'thing' about that list that is why you don't like them. Rather than stating there is no one on that list of individul creators whose work you enjoy.

[would]

Y'know... I wasn't sure if I was going to bother with this, romance comics not really being my thing*, but I'm now sorely tempted to back it just to spite BPP.

*Although I would very likely buy a reprint of that time travelling Adam Ant strip from Tops.

Can I just check where your seen who they creators are? I've not yet seen a list so woulod be good to know?

https://2000ad.com/news/roxy-a-contemporary-romance-anthology-to-get-your-heart-racing/

Nice one. Thanks

Sadly the vibes on this are both the can't draw school and the let's pile on Ed Piskor mob so hard pass.

I honestly don't understand rebellions thinking on using these types of creators. These seems little sense that their work has ever connected with rebellions existing base and less evidence the themes they push have a market in the U.K. scene.

Can I just check where your seen who they creators are? I've not yet seen a list so woulod be good to know?

Yep, that 2 volume special edition covers the 7 slim paperback Fantagraphics trades, which are the beginning of Usagi, prior to the Mirage/Dark Horse stuff in Saga.

Spot on. Thanks.

Quick aside here to add to the more general comic talk (and cos I think Indigo Prime might be able to answer my question).

There's a lovely looking 2 Volume Special Edition hardcovers slip case edition from Fantagraphic (around £90 these days). I think this contains content that from the early Fantagraphic stuff that's not included in the Usagi Yojimbo Saga collections - which I think start with the Mirage moving onto the Dark Horse series and so the content in that Hardcover won't be duplicated the Saga collections...

...does anyone know if that's correct?