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Off Topic / Re: The Political Thread
« on: Today at 03:40:20 PM »
I wouldn’t be surprised if the UK heads down that path. Plus we already have the mandated daily act of worship in English/Welsh schools, to weed out those unbelievers and get them picked on by other kids, along with confusing the crap out of really young children, by inferring that all these old myths are facts. Fun.

Off Topic / Re: The Political Thread
« on: Today at 01:13:08 PM »
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Off Topic / Re: The Political Thread
« on: Today at 09:40:55 AM »
I don't follow that Scottish independence is much like Brexit.
Although many aspects of it aren’t, some are. There’s that idea that 50%+1 is enough, rather than broader consensus. There’s hand-waving away important considerations like the economy and, now, land borders. I get it — and I suspect independence would, in the long run, be the best option for Scotland. But there is overlap with Brexit, even if the primary reasoning is in reality different.

Nevertheless, majority voted for it, it won't be democracy if we test it every few years continually. Democracy isn't perfect and doesn't always work, but it's the only (most) trustful system we have today.
Two things there. Democracy is literally resting things continually. That’s what elections are. Democracy isn’t making a decision that’s forever. One of the UK’s most stringiest rules is that no parliament can bind its predecessor.

But on democracy in general, it’s a good thing, but it’s strongly dependent on systems and people playing by the rules. The USA and UK have in recent years shown what happens when people just don’t care about the rules. As for systems, that showcases the weakness at the heart of British democracy.

Our elections are not designed to provide representative government. Instead, they are provided to give total power to whoever wins more votes than whoever’s in second. It would be feasible if five parties were running across the entire UK for one to gain 100% of the seats on a little over 20% of the vote. That’s of course never happened, but we’ve had seats won on a little over 20% of the vote, and Blair’s Labour won a majority of seats with a little over a third of the vote. The system is broken.

As for Brexit being democratic, it was. But it also used the most idiotic referendum set-up imaginable. Let’s look at what happens elsewhere:

- Ireland has a vote on abortion. It pits the status quo against a policy document. In the event of a no vote, everything stays the same. In the event of a yes, people know what they’ll get.

- Switzerland frequently has referendums where the destination is fluid. So when that happens, they have the vote, discover the consequences (like with the recent free movement mess) and then get a confirmatory referendum to decide whether to stick with the original decision.

The UK? We did the worst of both: pitting the status quo against aspirational woolliness, without any confirmatory ballot once the destination was shown.

In short, democracy is only as strong as the systems that comprise its foundations.

As for everything else, what Jim said. We’ve already lost thousands of companies, millions of people and billions of pounds. COVID has shielded then Tories from much of this. People aren’t aware of the massive damage that’s been done. And worse is on the way. Everything the Tories will do in terms of eradicating rights will be dressed up as “hard decisions to get the UK back on track after COVID”. The insular nature of our society and our news means enough people will lap that up, rather than look further afield and see how aghast the rest of the world is at what the UK has become. Meanwhile, an overly expensive boat named after a dead royal will sail to countries with the aim of securing trade deals, like a sketch from The Day Today, because the Tories live in the 1800s.

Off Topic / Re: The Political Thread
« on: 05 May, 2021, 11:32:00 AM »
The thing that gets me in Scotland is that the SNP is a broadly progressive party (with some dangerous blind spots from individuals on certain issues, like trans) but is approaching indy in a manner far too similar to UKIP. As someone who’s English and hoping one day to be Irish (because fuck England), I don’t have any real opinion about which way Scotland should head. I’m a bit torn, but have realised at every point that my own thinking was swayed too heavily by what I would like and not necessarily what would be best for Scotland.

But I do long on, concerned, when I see people arguing that a country split right down the middle should perform a major and irreversible political change beyond anything tried in modern history, with scant regard for economic and geopolitical consequences. Because that’s Brexit all over again. (If there was a super-majority behind indy and/or the UK government wasn’t so fucking stupid about things like the single market, that might be different.)

That all said, I do hope the Tories and Labour get a kicking on Thursday, and also that the Greens get some seats.

halo jones innit? she went out. ian gibson better not.
Um, but you could assign _some_ marks elsewhere. You don’t have to give them all to one artist.

Staples sits alongside Fabry for me in being someone whose work I find technically excellent, and yet it doesn’t really click. Gallagher does some solid stuff that isn’t quite in my eye-pop zone, but it has more energy to it. So:

Gallagher 3 / Staples 2

Gibson has done some classic fare, but got lazy later on (Backgrounds? Pfft! They don’t pay me enough for backgrounds!) and I always had an issue with his pouty page 3 depiction of women. I liked his imagination with robots though, and Halo Jones mostly remains very good.

D’Israeli is in another league, to my mind. Constantly inventive. Working up new styles to suit a strip rather than doing more of the same. So much detail. So much creativity. So much craft.


D’Israeli: 4
Gibson: 1

General / Re: Darkie's Mob
« on: 03 May, 2021, 02:43:08 PM »
But, for instance, I never really saw Jap as offensive. To me, it was abbreviated from Japanese.
It was—until it became an ethnic slur after Pearl Harbour, which is hardly recent history. Nip is a similar thing. That these were so widespread in British comics decades later is not good. In the context of wartime comics, their use was not great, but had potentially some justification in strips seeking to be realistic—although few really were. So what you got was 1940s jingoism transplanted to the 1970s. And it went much wider than that. As I noted earlier, Robo-Hunter—a sci-fi comic from the 1980s—is full of this shit. Dredd is too.

That British people might not have seen this as offensive (or still don’t) isn’t really relevant, because it was seen as offensive by the people the slur was directed at. “I don’t ‘feel’ X” is a response that generally needs a lot more thought wherever it is used. Remember: plenty of white people don’t consider “n——r” offensive today. Jap/nip are in a similar space. The good thing is that those people using these terms in British comics (including Wagner/Grant) seemingly stopped doing so when they became educated about it, rather than doubling down. But I don’t think there’s really any defence bar ignorance, which isn’t really any defence at all.

General / Re: Darkie's Mob
« on: 02 May, 2021, 05:58:36 PM »
Having just covered during my Ultimate Collection re-read that section of Robo-Hunter (“AIEEEE! BLAKEE PENTAX!”), I’m glad that at least was addressed by Matt Smith in the introduction. It’d be interesting to see if the same happens in Darkie’s Mob.

Japanese people did get a lot of shit in 2000 AD and related publications over the years. The casual use of racist language throughout the classic era comic is pretty overt in a number of Dredd strips. (That it got through also suggests this was institutional to some degree.)

Ultimately, things were different in the past, even if they weren’t acceptable. I’m in two minds about reworking older material. I didn’t really care when Rebellion did that for Darkie’s Mob, nor when The Beano removed Peanut from the masthead/interior of its box-set reproductions. But context and looking back at these things is a better option, where possible.

Books & Comics / Re: Comixology Star Wars Sale
« on: 02 May, 2021, 11:19:40 AM »
This one appears to have Wagner/Ezquerra listed: https://www.comixology.co.uk/Star-Wars-Omnibus-Shadows-of-the-Empire/digital-comic/166182?ref=c2VhcmNoL2luZGV4L2Rlc2t0b3Avc2xpZGVyTGlzdC9pdGVtU2xpZGVy

EDIT: Includes Star Wars: Mara Jade – By the Emperor's Hand—that’s why!

Books & Comics / Re: Free Comic Book Day 2021
« on: 29 April, 2021, 12:05:20 PM »
Heh. I thought the same. Nice art, but teeny tiny Lawmaster.

General / Re: Promises, Promises...
« on: 27 April, 2021, 08:44:31 AM »
Helium and The Alienist at a least worked pretty well as standalone. The Bad Man was dreadful. I’m very glad that didn’t become the basis for Dredd’s world and has now been largely forgotten.

General / Re: Attic clear out
« on: 25 April, 2021, 12:24:40 PM »
Don't even remember buying it. Or ever reading it.
Probably for the best, as per your subsequent post.

General / Re: Attic clear out
« on: 25 April, 2021, 11:23:26 AM »
If you’ve a #1208, that one’s a rarity, due to distribution problems at the time.

Megazine / Re: Meg 431 - Badges of Honour
« on: 24 April, 2021, 02:23:06 PM »
Kot seems to have a solid handle on Devlin. It’s not as weird as Smith’s work on the character, but has a solid mix of horror, camp and mystery that keeps it moving along very nicely. He also seems keen to make the reader work for it a bit. McConville’s run appeared too eager to answer questions that didn’t really need answering—and in double-quick time.

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