Hi, sorry if this is an old question but is there anywhere on the web that lists the available Dredd graphic novels in chronological order? Was a massive fan back in the mid 80's to early 90's and just picked up Origins for a holiday read and it's reignited my interest. Am looking to buy a couple Case Files every couple weeks along with the more upfront stories, say working back from Origins but am kinda struggling to work out the order in which the stories happen. Any links or help with this would be massively appreciated.
Thanks in anticipation
Theres a bit of overlap, especially where the most recent books are concerned, but approximately it goes:
The Dead Man (Titan)
Tale of the Dead Man (Titan)
Necropolis Book 1 (Titan)
Necropolis Book 2 (Titan)
Judgment Day (Rebellion/DC)
Mechanismo (Hamlyn/Mandarin)
The Pit (Hamlyn)
The Hunting Party (Rebellion)
The Scorpion Dance (Hamlyn)
Doomsday for Dredd (Hamlyn)
Doomsday for Mega City One (Hamlyn)
Satan's Island (Rebellion)
The Chief Judges Man (Rebellion)
Brothers of the Blood (Rebellion)
Total War (Rebellion)
Origins (Rebellion)
Mandroid (Rebellion)
The Art of Kenny Who?, The Carlos Ezquerra Collection, The Henry Flint Collection and The Complete PJ Maybe all feature stories from different periods of Dredd continuity.
For the non-Rebellion books, you'll need to get them second hand.
You can also slot the Dredd/Aliens book in between Satan's Island and The Chief Judges Man.
Thanks that's brilliant, although have noticed the America story is not on your list and have seen that available on some websites, is it included in one of the novels listed? I had the complete story back in the day in the megazine, have read in various places on the web it's considered one of the best stories, always knew I'd regret chucking everything out all those years ago!
America would fit just after Necropolis in that list - of course, thematically, the Dredd of America is arguably at odds with the Dredd of the post Necropolis democracy stories...
America is currently available in a nice new shiny book from Rebellion. There are earlier editions, but this is the only book that includes all three parts of the saga.
Yep right, I knew I'd forgotten something. I would personally put America just before Origins on the list, as America book 3 references the events of Total War.
The Dead Man (Titan)
Necropolis Book 1 (Titan)
Necropolis Book 2 (Titan)
Judgment Day (Rebellion/DC)
Democracy Now! (Hamlyn)
Mechanismo (Hamlyn/Mandarin)
The Pit (Hamlyn)
The Hunting Party (Rebellion)
The Scorpion Dance (Hamlyn)
Doomsday for Dredd (Hamlyn)
Doomsday for Mega City One (Hamlyn)
Satan's Island (Rebellion)
(Vs Aliens) Incubus (Rebellion)
The Chief Judges Man (Rebellion)
Brothers of the Blood (Rebellion)
Total War (Rebellion)
America (Rebellion)
Origins (Rebellion)
Mandroid (Rebellion)
I've taken Tale of the Dead Man off the list, as I've just remembered that Necropolis Book 1 covers that material.
I've also added Democracy Now!, which I'd forgotten.
Quote from: "radiator"Yep right, I knew I'd forgotten something. I would personally put America just before Origins on the list, as America book 3 references the events of Total War.
The first America story predates Total War by some way, though. In fact, I'm pretty sure it predates Judgment Day, too.
Thanks for all the help massively appreciated...
Have seen other graphic novels around such as Death Aid which I think follows on from Necropolis, is this not on the list cos it's not exactly classed as a novel? Pretty sure there's a few other titles I've noticed but can't remember the names?
I believe that Death Aid, Justice One, and Emerald Isle all fall shortly after Judgement Day. This is only a guess, however.
Here's the order for those:
Necropolis (Progs 674 to 699)
Death Aid (Progs 711-715 & 719-720)
Emerald Isle (Progs 727-732)
Justice One (Progs 766-771)
Judgement Day (Progs 786-799, & Megs v2 004-009)
I've got some time on my hands.
I didn't include all the graphic novels. I was biased to those that I think are worthwhile, and are part of a larger narrative to give you the essential Dredd experience. I could have included stuff like Death Aid, Fetish and The Three Amigos, but I thought you might be put off by such a long list.
As for America, it includes stories from 1990, 1996 and 2006, so it doesn't really slot in neatly anywhere.
Ok cool thanks for the help, looking forward to completing my mission now!
So just to clarify, Necropolis Book 1 includes A Letter To Judge Dredd as well as Tale Of The Dead Man?
And the singular book of Necropolis doesn't include either?
Hi Pioneer, how are you getting on with the books? Have you read any of the ones on my list?
I've got Necropolis Book One (Titan) in front of me now, and it contains Tale of the Dead Man, By Lethal Injection, Rights of Succession and Dear Annie - so no Letter to Judge Dredd, I'm afraid. I don't think that particular story has ever been reprinted.
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The Necropolis graphic novel, published by Hamlyn contains just Dear Annie and Necropolis.
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Its a bit confusing, but if you don't mind waiting a bit you'll be able to pick up the next few books of the Judge Dredd Case Files (12,13 and 14) will presumably cover Necropolis and all of the lead up and epilogue strips.
Hey, haven't actually read any cos they haven't arrived yet! Got Case Files 1&2, Mandroid, Total War and America on order from Forbidden Planet but they haven't turned up yet!
You know of any good online stores to source the older out of print novels? Had bids on Dead Man, Tale Of and Neceopolis on Ebay but lost out on all of them mainly due to my iphone's bad signal which was massively frustrating! Would prefer to pick up the necropolis saga asap to be honest cos missed it first time around for whatever reason, was around the time I kinda lost interest I think, actually had The Tale Of The Deadman Graphic Novel I seem to remember, but any ideas when the case files featuring those stories will be available?
Thanks again for the help
Case Files 12 (which should include Bloodline) is down for Feb 2009, no word yet on 13,14.
My advice with getting the Necropolis books is just be patient. Keep scouring eBay every few days and they'll turn up sooner or later. I tend to use 'Buy it now' where possible to avoid all that bidding hassle.
Amazon marketplace always has copies of Necropolis, Dead Man etc and they're always at crazy prices like £50, but keep checking back every few days and eventually there'll be a reasonably priced one show up.
A couple of years ago, I managed to get The Dead Man for £5, and Necropolis Book One for £12 this way.
How do you get all your
information radiator? Is there some
hidden list on the forums somewhere?
I think there's a forth coming
'Thargs Future Shocks' (hooray!) I saw on Amazon but that's the only bit of info I've uncovered about soon to be published 2000A.D series. Have you infiltrated Thargs lair with cat like fortitude ?
If you have you couldn't
nab me one of those Mugs you get free if you subscribe ? !
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YEYYY! Arthur Ranson's depiction of Judge Anderson was one of my fav's ! To Amazon and hideous expenditure !
Judge Dredd: Necropolis and Tale of the Dead Man now pretty much confirmed releases for next summer:
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Thats good news, long time to wait I guess but it'll be worth it!
Another question though, would the GN "Wilderlands" need to be purchased to complete the Mechanismo storyline?
Yes, in that it does complete the Mechanismo saga. Opinions are divided over whether there's any other reason to buy/read it. I re-read it in back-progs a few year's back while pretending to move things from my parents' attic to my attic, and ended up really enjoying it (despite the Missing Episode Problem), but I remember being nonplussed the first time out. Probably worth it for Ezquerra's psychadelic experimentation with Photoshop.
Quotewould the GN "Wilderlands" need to be purchased to complete the Mechanismo storyline?
No. The two Hamlyn collections -
Mechanismo and
Wilderlands, miss out
Mechanismo: Body Count which is a huge and important chunk of the whole
Mechanismo storyline.
Body Count has never been reprinted and currently the only way to get hold of it is to buy the original Megazines (Volume 2, issues 37-43).
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It's very frustrating, and I've long hoped that Rebellion would issue definitive version, either in the Case Files, or perhaps in a two book deal like they're doing with Necropolis.
If they do publish a new version, they should
so go with this image for the cover:
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For completeness sake, I'll add that the Mechanismo robots have also turned up in Dead Ringer, Judge Dredd/Aliens: Incubus, Mandroid: Instrument of War and I think they're also in Lawcon, which is free with this month's Megazine.
Picked up a copy of Blind Justice, where would that fit in this list?
Here's an updated list...
Complete Case Files Volumes 01-13
The Dead Man (Rebellion)
Complete Case Files Volumes 14,15
Judgment Day (Rebellion/DC)
Mechanismo (Rebellion)
Wilderlands (Hamlyn)
Blind Justice (Hamlyn)
The Pit (Hamlyn)
The Hunting Party (Rebellion)
The Scorpion Dance (Hamlyn)
Doomsday for Dredd (Hamlyn)
Doomsday for Mega City One (Hamlyn)
Satan's Island (Rebellion)
The Chief Judges Man (Rebellion)
Brothers of the Blood (Rebellion)
Total War (Rebellion)
Origins (Rebellion)
Mandroid (Rebellion)
Wicked thanks. Almost there!
I don't know if you follow Dredd in the weekly, but if you don't, there has been a huge storyline that has been running off and on for the last three years - it's being collected into two big new books that will be out in September this year.
Judge Dredd: Tour of Duty - Backlash
Judge Dredd: Tour of Duty - Under New Management
Here's mine Radiator:
Case Files 1 -13
The Dead Man
Case Files 14 - ????
America
It all depends on whenever the Case Files will include The Pit, Origins, Tour of Duty, etc!!
Would it be worth putting such information into the wiki? As the film looms there are surely going to be a lot of questions about Dredd and the trades.
And/or we could start a Dredd FAQ thread here, assemble some questions and answers. We can then update the first post. Try and avoid questions like "what is the best Dredd story?" or anything too subjective.
Quote from: radiator on 14 May, 2010, 07:22:04 PM
I don't know if you follow Dredd in the weekly, but if you don't, there has been a huge storyline that has been running off and on for the last three years - it's being collected into two big new books that will be out in September this year.
Judge Dredd: Tour of Duty - Backlash
Judge Dredd: Tour of Duty - Under New Management
I've been getting the the case files so I don't have work the order and every thing and I think I made the right choice, because they'll all be printed in the case files eventually, but it's gonna be a long time before we get the tour of duty ones in there, so I might just have to get them in September.
Quoteit's gonna be a long time before we get the tour of duty ones in there
It'll be many, many years. They've been running for what, 5 years now? and we're up to 1990/1991?
Well, I guess I'll get them in September then, still looking forward to it!
For some of us 1990/1991 is very recent indeed. Now, if you'll excuse me I'm off to see Cud and drink Labatts Ice.
Okay have completed the list (except for Case Files 15 which I will be picking up in a couple weeks), massively looking forward to the Tour Of Duty trades which will be completely new to me. In the meantime what are the most relevant trades I can keep myself entertained with? Am thinking first Young Death as I read it first time round in the meg, and it's pretty relevant to Necropolis which is the last story I read.
Have noticed that The Complete PJ Maybe seems to be out of print, is that because the case files are pretty much catching up? Also how important are the artist collections (Flint/Ezquerra)?
It looks as if the second Tour of Duty trade, Under New Management, has been bumped til next year, but Backlash is still on course for September.
Before you get that, I would highly recommend you get:
The Complete PJ Maybe - The first few stories are in the Case Files, but the more recent stuff isn't and you'll get much more out of Tour of Duty if you've read all the previous PJ Maybe stories. It's out of print, but you should be able to find a second hand copy online or maybe through your local library?
The Henry Flint Collection is bit of a mixed bag, but crucially includes the story The Gingerbread Man which is a vital story in the Tour of Duty arc. It might actually be included in the Backlash trade, but might not.
Origins - Tour of Duty is essentially a continuation of Origins.
America - The first story isn't in the Case Files and is essential reading, but crucially the two sequels both tie into Tour of Duty in unexpected ways...
Other than that, I'd highly recommend any of the following: Young Death, Anderson Psi Files 01, Judge Dredd: The Restricted Files 01+02, Mega City Undercover, The Simping Detective
The Ezquerra Collection is a bit of a mixed bag - some good stories, a few bad ones. But it does include the complete run of Cursed Earth Koburn which is good stuff, and it also includes the mini-epic Helter Skelter, which is.... ok.
The Art of Kenny Who?: The Cam Kennedy Collection is wonderful and well worth buying - it's got plenty of recent stories that won't see the light of day in the Case Files for many years yet, but also includes Beyond Our Kenny?, which isn't included in the Case Files at all.
Judge Dredd/Aliens is ok - not a patch on the other epics but still a worthwhile read.
Just a quickie - what comes first in the overall continuity, Mega City Undercover or The Simping Detective?
Actually, since M-C Undercover 2 is said to be including the DeMarco PI stories, and since she appears a couple of times in Simping Detective, reading those books should come first, I guess.
That said, Low Life (the first several episodes of which are in the existing M-C Book) began in the prog right about the same time that Simping Detective started in the Meg and the two developed concurrently. The publication order of these four series goes:
Lenny Zero (in M-C 1)
DeMarco PI (to be in M-C 2)
Low Life
Simping Detective
What's the Mega-City Undercover 2 suppose to collect? Up to current Low-Life and the Demarco series?
Currently on a re-read of the original list, am currently on The Doomsday books, next up is Satans Island.
Was wondering if there was anything noteworthy that happened after the Doomsday epic, eg rebuilding the city etc, kind of in the same way as the Necropolis fallout stories? A disaster of this scale obviously must of had a massive impact on MC1, and there's not really any mention of it in Satans Island (apart from the return of Orlok obviously!).
Would it be worth tracking down certain progs or is it just a case of waiting for the relevant case(!) files? (prob sometime around 2015?!)
The Doomsday follow up was quite subtle. Rather than repeat the follow ups of other stories with the name of the epic event tipexed over and replaced, the writers instead used Doomsday to change the shape of their world, and went forward from there.
They did this by releasing various criminals, setting up a Chief Judge with a very different outlook, moving characters into new areas of story, and such like.
This can be seen from various stories, and cumulated in the Backlash stuff.
Okay cool, so what criminals were released, and for what purpose?
Have read somewhere that there was some sort of East Meg assasination storyline, possibly involving another one of Kazans relatives (Gulag?).
Was this before or after Doomsday?
QuoteThe Doomsday follow up was quite subtle.
Yeah - there wasn't really too much mention of rebuilding the city or anything like that. The most notable follow up story (that isn't in the Doomsday graphic novels) is
The Cal Legacy (2 episodes Progs 1178 to 1179 12 pages). There's also
Incident at Rowdy Yates (1 episode Prog 1169 6 pages). Also worth checking out are
I, Jovis (1 episode Meg 3.60 15 pages),
Lobsang Rampage (1 episode Meg 3.61 6 pages) and
Short Circuit (1 episode Meg 3.61 9 pages).
Among the perps who escaped were PJ Maybe (
The All New Adventures of P. J. Maybe 1 episode Prog 1204 6 pages) and Trapper Hag (
The Revenge of Trapper Hag 2 episodes Progs 1165 to 1166 12 pages).
I think the
Doomsday fallout also fed somewhat into the introduction of Banzai Batallion in
No Man's Land (3 episodes Progs 1183 to 1185 18 pages).
Currently on a reread of the list, am now on Case Files 11, just about to start Revolution.
At what point would the first America story occur? Same goes for the second and third, would like to read these at the same point as they happened in the Dreddverse timeline
America spans a few decades of Dredd timeline in flashback, but I guess the 'present day' bits would fall just before Necropolis.
Cool thanks Radiator, your knowledge has enriched my life massively over the last couple years! (that and the Dredd books of course)
Any ideas on the other two stories?
QuoteCool thanks Radiator, your knowledge has enriched my life massively over the last couple years!
Any time, dude. It's very gratifying for me that you have enjoyed the books I have suggested so much.
As for the other
America stories:
Fading of the Light was published summer 1996, so should chronologically take place just after
The Pit.
Cadet was autumn 2006 (I think), so I'd read that just before or after
Origins.
We can actually place all three stories exactly in continuity through America Beeny, who is conceived just before the end of America. Beeny graduates from the Academy in 2130 after only 12 years, so she was born in 2113. America therefore takes place in 2112 - probably just before Necropolis, or it would have been mentioned - Fading of the Light is set in 2118, and Cadet is 2128 (Beeny being a Year 10 student at the time).
In other words, the stories fit the standard Dredd pattern of being set 122 years after first publication.
Just picked up a copy of Judgement On Gotham, could anyone tell me where this would slip into the list chronologically?
Better still, would anyone like to completely flesh out the list including every Dreddworld book that's available??
I've picked up pretty much everything possible over the last couple of years, and I mean everything, from Shimura to Devlin Waugh, Judge Death to Chopper etc and seem to have developed a certain level of autism (that's what the other half fondly calls it) regarding chronological continuity in my consumption of these great works!
Obviously excluding things like Book Of The Dead, Death Aid, Justice One etc that have already appeared or are coming up in the case files.
Guess I could just refer to the front pages which show in which issues the stories originally ran, but that would be a time consuming task and there's not really enough hours in the day as it is for me. Could make for a neat little project for someone with an astounding knowledge of all things Dredd, who has a little spare time on their hands....
Radiator?? ;)
Judgement on Gotham follows prety closely after Necropolis, following as it does the next (arguiably first!) merry japes of Judge Death.
The spin off stuff - not sure theres any worth trying to put it into a "time line", as very little of it references whats going on in Dredd and its safe to say next to nothing in Dredd references the spin off stuff.