QuoteDon't strart crying your eyes out because your work isn't accepted as a masterpiece from day one.
Spell 'start' right, you cnut!
QuoteIf you need to steal someone elses work for you to feel an ounce of self-worth on a no-name forum on the internet, you need more help than we can offer.
Heh! This is a great line.
It really is, isn't it?
Cnut? I didn't realise being Danish royalty was now an insult.
I got banned from the JBF for comparing Our Host to Cnut...
Fixed! Now don't you look silly.
Actually, this would be a good place to suggest any additional rules for eventualities I might have missed.
QuoteI got banned from the JBF for comparing Our Host to Cnut...
Good job you weren't posting on the Danish Monarchy forum!
S'okay- I look silly anyway.
Quote from: VinceBot on 27 July, 2009, 11:10:48 PM
Actually, this would be a good place to suggest any additional rules for eventualities I might have missed.
If I may be so bold:
You are not going to get hired via this forum. This is not a recruiting zone endorsed by 2000AD or Rebellion. Posting your work here does not qualify as a submission to 2000AD, although you
will find details of how
best to do that here (http://www.2000adonline.com/subs.php).
And also perhaps something like:
When you post work:
- Keep uploaded images as small as possible, or provide a link to a larger file hosted elsewhere.
- Provide links to your blog, website etc. - someone looking at your work might want to investigate further.
- Try to use English in it's traditional form, not everyone will know what your cryptic text abbreviations mean.
- Don't be surprised if your topic isn't immediately swamped with replies.
I hope these comments/suggestions don't get me flayed alive for being a pretentious git.
Those are all good points worth emphasising.
There are also potential problems with script writing critiques, as people would be unwise to post lengthy excerpts from their Big Idea before getting it published. If you this and someone publishes something similar then there is very little you can do (apart from learn a valuable lesson).
Quote from: KevLev on 29 July, 2009, 09:37:50 AM
You are not going to get hired via this forum. This is not a recruiting zone endorsed by 2000AD or Rebellion. Posting your work here does not qualify as a submission to 2000AD, although you will find details of how best to do that here (http://www.2000adonline.com/subs.php).
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Quote from: KevLev on 29 July, 2009, 09:37:50 AM
Keep uploaded images as small as possible, or provide a link to a larger file hosted elsewhere.
Added a cap on the image size - 670 is all this theme will take before breaking the tables, so added that. Anyone got a list of good image hosts?
Quote from: KevLev on 29 July, 2009, 09:37:50 AM
Don't be surprised if your topic isn't immediately swamped with replies.
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Quote from: Emperor on 29 July, 2009, 02:08:43 PM
There are also potential problems with script writing critiques, as people would be unwise to post lengthy excerpts from their Big Idea before getting it published. If you this and someone publishes something similar then there is very little you can do (apart from learn a valuable lesson).
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Anyone got a list of good image hosts?
I've always used Photobucket for everything I post here. Seems to be stable and I get no hassle email from them.
-Bouwel-
tinypic.com (http://tinypic.com), you don't need an account - just upload the image, grab the BB Code and throw it in. It does make it tricky to keep track of all your uploaded images (for that use something like Photobucket) but for quick and dirty image uploading it can't be beaten.
If you have a Gmail/Google account then just going to Picasa seems to get you straight into your image account (although I haven't actually used it) which is quick and easy:
http://picasaweb.google.com/
I think Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/) is brilliant place to host images if you don't have a blog/google account already.
I would advise this for anyone starting out afresh because it will allow you to link to a variety of sizes of image... 75x75, 100x71, 240x170, 500x354 and 782x553. It also has a lovely little feature that writes some nice code for you to copy and paste into your posting. Admittedly - I don't know if photobucket or any of the others do this. If you are going to blog, you might find flickr unnecessary, as pointed out by Emperor, you get the Picasa album anyway.
Quote from: KevLev on 30 July, 2009, 11:27:03 AMIf you are going to blog, you might find flickr unnecessary, as pointed out by Emperor, you get the Picasa album anyway.
I had a bit more of a nose around that. If you are blogging on Blogger/Blogspot then your uploaded images are automatically part of your Picasa account - it just provides and easier way of uploading and managing images. You also seem to be able to tag your pictures so folks could add "2000 AD art competition June 2009" or some such and it could help bring the entries together. Now reason this couldn't be doubled up on Flickr.
Gee whizz- this sub forum has certainly grown legs!
Been a while since I had a look as I assumed it would take a while to generate content. How wrong was I?
Goes to show how much it was needed though. Fantastic work and great ideas from everyone.
Do you think that the monthly art comps would be best placed here?
It might be a good idea. Personally I'd be more for the art and writing competitions to have their own section (along with the voting threads).
I can never bring myself to submit an idea, but I keep having loads and I love the creativity of the boarders here. It'd be good to give them all a home where they can be easily found.
Yeah, I would agree with that as well - easier to fins as the general section fills up quite a lot...
Quote from: mikegloady on 21 August, 2009, 03:52:11 PM
It might be a good idea. Personally I'd be more for the art and writing competitions to have their own section (along with the voting threads).
Moving the threads here could be a step on the road to them having their own dedicated forum - it would certainly help stop the threads getting drowned in a host of threads in the more general forums.
I would recommend speaking to Jim to see if he had any thoughts or plans for the competition as he is the one currently running these and he has a better overview of the situation.
Quote from: Emperor on 21 August, 2009, 04:05:40 PM
I would recommend speaking to Jim to see if he had any thoughts or plans for the competition as he is the one currently running these and he has a better overview of the situation.
FWIW, I only stuck the Art Comp where it is because I couldn't think of anywhere better for it -- and I think that was where Amstor had it before me -- and I invited suggestions for a more appropriate forum, but none were forthcoming.
If we now have a more appropriate section for it, then I'm happy to move the Compo there.
Cheers!
Jim
The short story comp can go wherever people think best. As long as people write stories and VOTE I don't mind.
By the way there's a link below if you would like to read some excellent short (and they are short) stories from your fellow boarders and have a vote.....nudge nudge.
How do you guys usually run the competitions? Has anyone assumed the duties for posting competition threads or is it just a kind of as-and-when deal, whoever fancies putting one up?
Do you think there are enough competition threads to warrant a subforum? I haven't see that many threads thus far - would the be better off as stickies in this forum?
Quote from: VinceBot on 22 August, 2009, 03:18:08 PMDo you think there are enough competition threads to warrant a subforum? I haven't see that many threads thus far - would the be better off as stickies in this forum?
What it might be worth doing is collecting the various threads together in this forum, which will give a good idea of how many there are and they won't get lost in the general forum. You can then decide if a sub-forum was a good idea and if it was then they could easily be rounded up and moved.
My concern about a sub-forum is that the active threads can get buried (although I'm not sure how SMF does them but I don't think they show on the main page but it has been a while since I checked). I think your suggestion of stickying the current active threads is a good solution, for now.
Quote from: Emperor on 22 August, 2009, 04:01:03 PM
What it might be worth doing is collecting the various threads together in this forum, which will give a good idea of how many there are and they won't get lost in the general forum.
Hm, see now that makes me wonder if moving competitions here at all is a good idea - I mean sure you'll be able to find them if they're in CC or their own subforum, but they won't get the exposure they normally would in General.
Certainly whole composing the competition entries it would make sense to post a thread here, but once composted the actual voting should probably happen in General.
Quote from: Emperor on 22 August, 2009, 04:01:03 PM
My concern about a sub-forum is that the active threads can get buried (although I'm not sure how SMF does them but I don't think they show on the main page but it has been a while since I checked). I think your suggestion of stickying the current active threads is a good solution, for now.
This is true, SMF is like any other forum were active topics (those recently posted in) are bumped to the top, and ones with few replys descend off the bottom into the abyss.
Perhaps the solution
is to sticky them in General for their active duration, though this would require some pro-active moderation I can't afford to do.
Again, who normally composes competitions? Is any one person in charge, is it ad-hoc whoever feels like doing one..?
Quote from: VinceBot on 22 August, 2009, 04:40:32 PMAgain, who normally composes competitions? Is any one person in charge, is it ad-hoc whoever feels like doing one..?
No the art competitions have been run by Jim Campbell recently. The SMF admin allows you to give permissions out individually so you could give him the powers to make posts sticky (urmmm) if that was the direction you wanted to go in.
Thats pretty much what I was thinking, because it would allow you guys to sort these threads out by yourselves.
Jim and myself were sorting out the respective competition threads by ourselves as far as I was aware.
Having one comp in one place, one in another and separating entry and voting threads is just going to confuse the shit out of people and piss them off.
I'm with Kerrin on this. He and Jim do an excellent job and the compos really add a little something to the forum so while there might not be MANY threads I do think it deserves a little subforum - entires and voting together.
Quote from: Kerrin on 23 August, 2009, 11:27:05 AM
Jim and myself were sorting out the respective competition threads by ourselves as far as I was aware.
Having one comp in one place, one in another and separating entry and voting threads is just going to confuse the shit out of people and piss them off.
Righto. Then the solutions are:
- Have it in this forum
- Create a new forum for them
Personally I think they'll be just fine here (if you and Jim are given sticky powers it will also mean less hassle for the mods) and I'd be worried that a sub-forum might reduce the attention they get.
I don't know what Jim thinks but I'd be happy with either of those solutions just so long as people know where to find the comps.
If I had to choose one of them I would personally go for a competitions and challenges sub-forum. That way when someone comes up with a new competition or challenge of some sort you're not going to end up with top of "Creative Common" covered in stickied threads.
Quote from: Kerrin on 23 August, 2009, 04:21:00 PM
If I had to choose one of them I would personally go for a competitions and challenges sub-forum. That way when someone comes up with a new competition or challenge of some sort you're not going to end up with top of "Creative Common" covered in stickied threads.
I think that would probably get my vote, TBH.
Cheers!
Jim
Also, if a comp sub-forum was created, it would be much easier to find and explore earlier competitions. By now, I'm sure the first art and writing comps are completely buried if not lost in the General section.
Ok, I don't mind establishing a subforum for competitions, I'm just worried about limiting their exposure - risking only having CC visitors voting on a thread composed by CC visitors..
Perhaps we can sticky a locked thread in General when a competition is running, giving the competitions the exposure they need.
By the by, its not impossible to run a thread to completition in one forum, and then move (archive) it into another forum at a later date, so the risk of threads getting lost is minimal.
Nah. Screw it -- I say leave 'em where they are, then.
Cheers
Jim
Yeah, what the hell, lets just leave the comps in general, that's where people expect them to be.
Ok, I'll move them back to General.
You guys still want to have competitions stickied for the duration of their run? I don't imagine there'll be too many going on at once.
Quote from: VinceBot on 23 August, 2009, 10:07:05 PM
Ok, I'll move them back to General.
You guys still want to have competitions stickied for the duration of their run? I don't imagine there'll be too many going on at once.
Honestly, I don't mind bumping them manually. It means I have to keep the comp, and the entry/voting deadlines, in mind ... otherwise they could have a habit of sneaking up on me!
Cheers
Jim
Yep, same as that, cheers Vince.
I don't think that'll be a huge problem, I mean the competition threads don't need to be de-stickied on their exact finishing date, just whenever you decide they're over or you want to round up the results.
I don't mind giving you guys the power to sticky your own threads, my only concerns are making the competitions easy for other users to find, make them appear more official so people take part and keeping the place tidy.
If you do want to axe a thread at a specific deadline, post it in the OP (original post) and between you guys and the forum staff we should be able to keep an eye on it.
Ok guys, I've added you to a special member group called "Competition Hosts", while will allow you to modify the sticky attribute on any of your own threads in any forum.
Please use it resonsibly.