I see that there is a STRONTIUM DOG: SEARCH AND DESTROY WEBSHOP EXCLUSIVE available in the webshop (https://shop.2000ad.com/catalogue/XB700).
How is this volume different than the Strontium Dog Search and Destroy: The Starlord Years volume previously announced? (https://www.bookdepository.com/Strontium-Dog-Search-Destroy-John-Wagner/9781781087657)
The Dimensions and Page count look the same, and both are Hardback
Thanks for any info.
Just trying to buy it in the timing out shop! ARGH! I'm doing 12 hour days and if this sells out while I am away, I will not be happy - someone save a copy for me!
Will also be trying to buy this. Wondering whether the strips from the Starlord Summer Special and three Starlord Annuals will be included?
Do we know what the differences are between these two SD Starlord Volumes? Same content with a signed bookplate by Wagner or something?
Someone please elaborate so I know which one to get!
Thank you.
Quote from: Max Headroom on 08 April, 2020, 10:42:57 PM
Will also be trying to buy this. Wondering whether the strips from the Starlord Summer Special and three Starlord Annuals will be included?
They are!
Quote from: Rogue Judge on 08 April, 2020, 10:55:29 PM
Do we know what the differences are between these two SD Starlord Volumes? Same content with a signed bookplate by Wagner or something?
It's been a while since Rebellion did a bookplate with their exclusive releases. It generally tends to be a different cover with a far smaller print run. Thirteenth Floor would be an example (although the general release edition was soft back so there was that difference too). Otherwise the content is identical. The lack of any detail on the website would suggest that this is the case but this is only speculation.
Quote from: Tjm86 on 09 April, 2020, 01:27:05 PM
It's been a while since Rebellion did a bookplate with their exclusive releases. It generally tends to be a different cover with a far smaller print run. Thirteenth Floor would be an example (although the general release edition was soft back so there was that difference too). Otherwise the content is identical. The lack of any detail on the website would suggest that this is the case but this is only speculation.
Hey thanks for the info, much appreciated. Another tempting thing about the Exclusive is that it comes out months earlier than the standard version...
Cheers
Ordered as soon as I could - missing discount be damned.
Discounts don't apply to new stuff usually anyway, right?
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 10 April, 2020, 03:25:03 PM
Discounts don't apply to new stuff usually anyway, right?
Nope.
Have pre-ordered my copy of the exclusive edition. Just wondering whether the Starlord Stront stories were in complete colour or just the middle spreads like early 2000ad offerings. Either way, looking forward to this.
Lots more colour in Starlord with most stories opening with colour spreads and then 3/4 black and white pages
So yes middle spread colour rest b/w
I seem to recall someone who has the original art mentioned a page that was printed in b/w in Starlord is actually colour.
Quote from: Steve Green on 18 April, 2020, 04:18:27 PM
I seem to recall someone who has the original art mentioned a page that was printed in b/w in Starlord is actually colour.
The third page of the first story.
Cheers, makes sense - I guess Carlos might have just drawn that before he'd been told the colour was going to be limited to the first 2 pages.
Weren't some of the black and white Starlord pages actually printed green or something?
I think the original artwork was, might have been Stewart Perkins/WR Logan who mentioned it?
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 18 April, 2020, 05:10:21 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 18 April, 2020, 04:18:27 PM
I seem to recall someone who has the original art mentioned a page that was printed in b/w in Starlord is actually colour.
The third page of the first story.
This 'colour' version of the page is in the new book. (The page was not fully coloured before Carlos was told the rest of the strip was going to be in B/W, or so the legend goes.)
Quote from: Steve Green on 19 April, 2020, 01:45:36 PM
I think the original artwork was, might have been Stewart Perkins/WR Logan who mentioned it?
Yeah, could be that. Vaguely remember him posting scans of it on here at some point too.
Received my copy today and can't wait to get reading. I was particularly impressed by the colour repro which is always great to have where it exists. I was wondering whether something similar could be done for Nemesis. I know we have the relatively recent 'Early Heresies' edition, but a deluxe book featuring all the colour would be amazing and totally deserved.
Got mine today. Very lovely it is too, but frankly it wasn't cheap at 30 quid, especially when it's being advertised in this week's prog at 20 (not sure if the "nonexclusive versions are hard or soft back).
Standard edition is also HC—but it's now also delayed six months. If you're annoyed at spending extra cash, I'll bet you could sell your copy on now it's OOP.
Got mine yesterday and it is a beautiful book. I'm so pleased to have this.
Just woken to find an email telling me the web shop exclusive has now been released and to check it out. Did this mean it was back in stock I thought? Nope. Maybe I get sent the email as I'd ordered a copy?
Got mine today. Absolutely stunning book. Really looking forward to getting stuck in, as I've not read most of these strips.
I see the standard edition is now up for pre-order. Does anyone know if this is limited to a certain number, or will they print at least as many as they get pre-orders for? I ask partly because I am still missing my subscriber discount on the web shop.
I imagine there will be a limited print run, in the sense it won't be in-print indefinitely, but the standard edition will be on sale in stores everywhere, not just the 2000 AD shop. It won't sell out overnight.
Quote from: Bolt-01 on 09 June, 2020, 02:44:36 PM
Got mine yesterday and it is a beautiful book. I'm so pleased to have this.
Aye, just finished it. Great to have all these tales in one volume, even though I have the full Starlord run.
The repro is pretty good all things considered. Matte paper works better and the crisp white background bring out Ezquerra's work superbly.
I suppose it will be too much to hope that they will give the hardback treatment to the 2000ad year stories now? Probably not but we can live in hope, no?
If Barney comes back I'm going to page count a "Journey Into Hell"/Annual/Specials second volume.....
Quote from: Tjm86 on 12 June, 2020, 04:07:06 PM
Quote from: Bolt-01 on 09 June, 2020, 02:44:36 PM
Got mine yesterday and it is a beautiful book. I'm so pleased to have this.
Aye, just finished it. Great to have all these tales in one volume, even though I have the full Starlord run.
The repro is pretty good all things considered. Matte paper works better and the crisp white background bring out Ezquerra's work superbly.
I suppose it will be too much to hope that they will give the hardback treatment to the 2000ad year stories now? Probably not but we can live in hope, no?
Quote from: Tjm86 on 12 June, 2020, 04:07:06 PM
I suppose it will be too much to hope that they will give the hardback treatment to the 2000ad year stories now? Probably not but we can live in hope, no?
Doubtful, so soon after the Ultimate Collection giving us just that.
Just ordered the standard version. The web shop confirmed the only differences are the front and rear covers - the content is the same. So with my newly re-instated subscriber discount I got it for a tenner - bargin.
Not that I'll actually have it until November 😉
My copy just arrived today. Only read the first couple of stories so far but absolutely loving it. This is the intro the strip didn't get in the Ulimate Collection. Really glad to have grabbed a copy to round that out.
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 12 June, 2020, 04:17:21 PM
Quote from: Tjm86 on 12 June, 2020, 04:07:06 PM
I suppose it will be too much to hope that they will give the hardback treatment to the 2000ad year stories now? Probably not but we can live in hope, no?
Doubtful, so soon after the Ultimate Collection giving us just that.
Quite a bit of Strontium Dog Goes to hell featured painted or coloured art, and was apparently printed in B&W in the Ultimate Collection, so it may work to bring out a second volume.
Now that I would love. Granted the first post merger SD story was fairly mundane but "Goes to Hell" was Ezquerra on full form to my mind. Colour repro of some of those centre spreads would be something else again.
I get that the Ultimate collection has been quite recent and might cut into uptake. That's a shame really. Like I say, I live in hope. I'm not completely convinced the relationship with Hachette was the best choice. When you consider the fun and games that some folks have endured with the UC, the state of some of the books when they have turned up, the quality of repro in some cases and the spines (Cook's art is lovely but finding anything ....)
:'(
I'm also holding out for a hardback collection of the SD 2000AD years...not living in the UK, so I didn't have access to the Ultimate Collection, and I'd much rather have a complete Rebellion set like this hardback. (Which includes the final SD story by Ezquerra, of course...currently missing from my TPB collection)
Honestly, I would look at the paucity of 2000 AD HCs right now and drawn conclusions from that. Hachette might not be great in various ways, but there is no way we'd have ever seen full HC runs of the sheer number of 2000 AD characters we have otherwise. (Frankly, I'm a little surprised the 2000 AD collection appeared at all, and that it's looking like being extended so heavily.)
Mostly, repro has been fine. It's clearly been taken from existing Rebellion volumes for the most part. Deliveries can be a problem, but I've never had an issue in getting replacements for damage. The spines remain a major bugbear of mine though. If there was a way of printing custom spines somehow, I'd gladly do that for all my volumes. (I've not found anything viable for that, sadly.)
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 18 June, 2020, 11:38:18 AM
Honestly, I would look at the paucity of 2000 AD HCs right now and drawn conclusions from that. Hachette might not be great in various ways, but there is no way we'd have ever seen full HC runs of the sheer number of 2000 AD characters we have otherwise. (Frankly, I'm a little surprised the 2000 AD collection appeared at all, and that it's looking like being extended so heavily.)
Mostly, repro has been fine. It's clearly been taken from existing Rebellion volumes for the most part. Deliveries can be a problem, but I've never had an issue in getting replacements for damage. The spines remain a major bugbear of mine though. If there was a way of printing custom spines somehow, I'd gladly do that for all my volumes. (I've not found anything viable for that, sadly.)
What about a bellyband? Not ideal - you'd have to slide it on and off when you took a book down to read, and they tend to get scuffed and ripped easily (I believe it's why retailers aren't keen on them) but you could probably run a batch off on card relatively cheaply with a simple two-part template, and you could fit a reasonable amount of information on them, as well as printing something sympathetic to the cover design on the UC. Preferable to stickers or a fixed cardboard spine to cover the existing ones, and you could always print new ones as and when.
That could work. I have researched sticker-based replacement spines, but couldn't find anything that would be suitable for the long term.
It'd be a bit of work, but TBH I take most of my books off the shelf little enough that bellybands would work fine for something like this. Waste of time for stuff like my type reference books or anything that's coming down to be read over a week or two, but for something that's going to be shelved for most of the year and read quickly when it's down it could work.
I've never come across sticker spines before - are they available as a simple solution or would you have to make your own?
I was for a time looking at designing my own and printing them here, but I couldn't find anything that would properly last. Perhaps I'll ask in town—although applying the things could turn out to be a horrible nightmare.
I do wonder about this. For how many people is spine art really a draw to stick with a subscription?
I'd much rather just have titles on the spines, however nice the art - particularly as I'm cherry-picking anyway! The Eaglemoss partwork books are a no-brainer solution - the art takes up roughly the bottom half to two-thirds of the spine, and the title is on the top third.
That would work also. Even the Marvel ones better the 2000 AD spines, through having character indicators.