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: Slavers of Drule V The Killing - Bolt-01 Cup - Qualifying - Long: Game 08
: Colin YNWA 03 August, 2021, 06:29:29 AM
Slavers of Drule V The Killing  - Bolt-01 Cup - Qualifying - Long: Game 08

So things will start to take sharp on the back of this game in Long Region Group 1. This second round of games will give us a very clear indication of how this group will finish up. At the minute of course it's all to play form...

All you need do is vote for your favourite between:

Slavers of Drule - more info (http://www.scienceagogo.com/store/2000AD-Prog-425-436-Strontium-Dog-Slavers-of-Drule-All-12-Judge-Dredd-Comics-VG-_234007093213.html)

Vs

The Killing - more info (https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/index.php?cat=96&id=4963)

Just reply in this thread naming your favourite of these two stories at the beginning of your post (or use Bold tags so I can spot it easy) and say what you like about these wonderful stories after that.

Match ends early on the morning of Friday 6th August and the winner (I’ll count up who gets the most votes basically) gets 3 points towards qualifying… huh…

… there’s a spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1F3W5KkY37ZcH39J93nq5hR5_RhPIvaOapv7sZ0EmvUQ/edit?usp=sharing) to make following easier… if you fancy. If not, don’t worry just VOTE!!!!

What on Earth is all this? (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=47697.msg1064493#msg1064493)

Why (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=47696.0) on Tharg’s Earth head are we doing this?

Any questions, just ask as ever - and have FUN!

Oh and my ‘More info’ links… well I don’t say how much more and they get pretty wonky at times!
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: broodblik 03 August, 2021, 06:46:06 AM
Slavers of Drule
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: Rogue Judge 03 August, 2021, 07:44:10 AM
The Killing. This is getting harder!
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: Dark Jimbo 03 August, 2021, 08:23:11 AM
The Killing, no contest!
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: Barrington Boots 03 August, 2021, 08:54:17 AM
This is a tough one for me. Both great stories.
I remember reading Slavers in some kind of collected best-of format and being totally blown away by it - the giant heads, the horror of the force feeding, the treatment of the slaves, totally useless Titus Smitus.. little dark comedic touches like potting peasants and the joke name of the story itself.
I also love Johnny and Wulf at the start on Smiley's World, Wulf catching fish in his aloha shirt.

The Killing though is packed full of jokes, action, crazy character names and designs and a bit of 2k social commentary - it's definitely one of the stories I'd give someone to read if they were starting off on SD. It's a belter, and it gets my vote this round.
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: Dog Deever 03 August, 2021, 11:25:04 AM
I have to say- I really don't get any of this over-complex voting scheme at all. It's incredibly confusing and I never know for sure if I've voted on everything or not. I keep having to go through each thread to see if I've already voted or not.

That said- it has to be The Killing.
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: Dark Jimbo 03 August, 2021, 02:54:36 PM
I have to say- I really don't get any of this over-complex voting scheme at all. It's incredibly confusing and I never know for sure if I've voted on everything or not. I keep having to go through each thread to see if I've already voted or not.

It gets really tricky when folk start voting in threads that are 'closed' - 'I missed this vote but I would have gone for The Ragnarok Job'. Then suddenly you can have something like twelve voting threads all active, and basically have to go read each one to see if you've voted in it.

If we could add a nice bold addendum to the thread title - Voting closed - then it would help massively.
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: Funt Solo 03 August, 2021, 04:27:35 PM
You just need a voting spreadsheet!

Anyway - The Killing.
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: sheridan 03 August, 2021, 04:38:59 PM
Slavers of Drule, if this thread is still open?
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: Colin YNWA 03 August, 2021, 04:48:32 PM
... if this thread is still open?

It is this one closes on Friday - don't worry that you have seen the stories before the qualifies are based on a round robin.

Look you can see the fun on this handy dandy spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1F3W5KkY37ZcH39J93nq5hR5_RhPIvaOapv7sZ0EmvUQ/edit?usp=sharing)
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: Buttonman 03 August, 2021, 04:52:16 PM
After knowing of this story for many years I've only just realised that the 'Slavers of Drule' is a pun on two dribbling terms - slavering and drool !

The Killing for me. Second choice? The Killing (bigger print version).
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: gogilesgo 03 August, 2021, 04:52:44 PM
The Killing every day of the week
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: The Enigmatic Dr X 03 August, 2021, 07:00:53 PM
The Killing
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: Southstreeter 03 August, 2021, 07:19:16 PM
I’m with The Killing. And so’s my wife.
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: Leigh S 03 August, 2021, 07:24:04 PM
The Killing, for sure
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: AlexF 03 August, 2021, 07:26:46 PM
Proper tough one. Slavers of Drule, please. Still love those giant heads, man. And I like the long seeds sown here for Rage, too.
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: Timothy 03 August, 2021, 10:42:54 PM
The Killing.
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: Trooper McFad 04 August, 2021, 11:07:55 AM
Slavers of Drule for me
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: sheridan 04 August, 2021, 01:23:27 PM
Druuule
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: Magnetica 04 August, 2021, 09:37:22 PM
In many ways the ultimate Strontium Dog romp: The Killing.
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: Colin YNWA 05 August, 2021, 06:46:06 AM
Last day, last day, what ya gonne do... well vote if you haven't that's what. I'll count up in the morning.

Unlike the other vote this one has two thrills I really like and its a tough call. At the end of the day there's something about the simple blood and guts concept of the the earlier story and so on that basis:

The Killing
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: Colin YNWA 05 August, 2021, 06:48:21 AM
I have to say- I really don't get any of this over-complex voting scheme at all. It's incredibly confusing and I never know for sure if I've voted on everything or not. I keep having to go through each thread to see if I've already voted or not.

It gets really tricky when folk start voting in threads that are 'closed' - 'I missed this vote but I would have gone for The Ragnarok Job'. Then suddenly you can have something like twelve voting threads all active, and basically have to go read each one to see if you've voted in it.

If we could add a nice bold addendum to the thread title - Voting closed - then it would help massively.

Hi folks sorry just read these comment properly. I have always been a little worried about doing a round robin tourney for just these reasons and alas I can't change the title I don't think.

I'll run this one as planned but consider whether the format works for any future tourneys I run.
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: I, Cosh 05 August, 2021, 11:30:59 AM
The story I wrote for school which blatantly ripped off The Killing is the real winner here.
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: Colin YNWA 06 August, 2021, 06:33:25 AM
VOTING CLOSED

More of a competition in this one but at the end of the day The Slavers of Drule hasn't got a 'Kill' in its title and so stood no real change in this group so the result of

The Killing

means they go into the final round of matches in a very strong place to grab the group.With Slavers and Stone Killers fighting it out for a play-off place.

The Killing              6    27
Slavers of Drule    3    8
Stone Killers          3    -7
Galaxy Killers        0    -28
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: Dog Deever 06 August, 2021, 09:47:48 PM
The Killing              6    27
Slavers of Drule    3    8
Stone Killers          3    -7
Galaxy Killers        0    -28

What do the columns of numbers represent again (and how come some of them are in minus)?
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: Funt Solo 06 August, 2021, 10:39:21 PM
(I don't get that stuff either.)
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: Colin YNWA 07 August, 2021, 06:43:42 AM
The Killing              6    27
Slavers of Drule    3    8
Stone Killers          3    -7
Galaxy Killers        0    -28

What do the columns of numbers represent again (and how come some of them are in minus)?

I was trying to get away with not doing column headers cos the alignment would be tricky and I struggle with the table function. The left column is points (3 for a win, 1 for a draw 0 if you lose) and the other column is votes difference. So in each vote if you win 10 - 5 you are +5. If you lose 5 - 10 you are -5.

I'll try to make it clearer....
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: Funt Solo 07 August, 2021, 03:02:23 PM
Thanks, Colin - you put a lot of work into this.

If you did want to use the table code, it would look like this:

The Killing  27
Slavers of Drule  8
Stone Killers  -7
Galaxy Killers  -28

It's far from perfect - tables in bbcode without access to css (web style code) generally look a bit pants, and I had to type some spaces in by hand to get it to look less cramped.

Replacing all the square brackets in my code with curly brackets, it looks like this (and you can see where I've typed spaces - 3 each - after each story title and after the first number in each row):

{table}
{tr}{td}The Killing  {/td} {td}6  {/td} {td}27{/td}{/tr}
{tr}{td}Slavers of Drule  {/td} {td}3  {/td} {td}8{/td}{/tr}
{tr}{td}Stone Killers  {/td} {td}3  {/td} {td}-7{/td}{/tr}
{tr}{td}Galaxy Killers  {/td} {td}0  {/td} {td}-28{/td}{/tr}
{/table}

Basically, {tr}...{/tr} encompasses an entire row of information and {td}...{/td} is a single cell inside a row. Each row needs the same number of cells, so that your columns line up. (If you do anything wrong, then when you press "Post" it pretty much poops itself and deletes almost everything.)
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: Funt Solo 07 August, 2021, 03:07:29 PM
Oh, and with headings:

Story TitlePoints   Vote Diff.
The Killing627
Slavers of Drule   38
Stone Killers3-7
Galaxy Killers0-28

I'm noticing that to achieve spacing between columns, I only need to add spaces after the longest title, and after the words "Points" in the header row.

The printable version ({} not square) looks like this:

{table}
{tr}{td}{b}Story Title{/b}{/td} {td}{b}Points   {/b}{/td} {td}{b}Vote Diff.{/b}{/td}{/tr}
{tr}{td}The Killing{/td} {td}6{/td} {td}27{/td}{/tr}
{tr}{td}Slavers of Drule   {/td} {td}3{/td} {td}8{/td}{/tr}
{tr}{td}Stone Killers{/td} {td}3{/td} {td}-7{/td}{/tr}
{tr}{td}Galaxy Killers{/td} {td}0{/td} {td}-28{/td}{/tr}
{/table}