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Title: Promises, Promises...
Post by: Funt Solo on 27 April, 2021, 02:26:15 AM
From a discussion on another thread. Thrills that have been promised, but have yet to materialize.

Last part of Flesh: Gorehead, from prog 2010 in 2016:

(https://i.imgur.com/LQKQ1IT.png)
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: Funt Solo on 27 April, 2021, 02:30:30 AM
Helium, from prog 1945 in 2015:

(https://i.imgur.com/ArVbBWb.png)
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: Funt Solo on 27 April, 2021, 02:33:05 AM
The Alienist, from prog 2049 in 2017:

(https://i.imgur.com/pRIElw2.png)
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: Funt Solo on 27 April, 2021, 02:42:06 AM
Armageddon, from Meg 2.07 in 1992:

(https://i.imgur.com/yvU5TRL.png)
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: Colin YNWA on 27 April, 2021, 06:28:45 AM
No sure if your going to keep going - so I'll not do spoilers but we know there's at least one a LOT earlier than that!
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: Tjm86 on 27 April, 2021, 06:37:48 AM
Quote from: Colin YNWA on 27 April, 2021, 06:28:45 AM
No sure if your going to keep going - so I'll not do spoilers but we know there's at least one a LOT earlier than that!

Got to hand it to you, that is quite subtle.  I bet you don't dare say any more ....
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: broodblik on 27 April, 2021, 06:47:10 AM
From the these I would like  to see the return of both Helium and The Alienist
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: Daveycandlish on 27 April, 2021, 07:13:09 AM
Yup, Helium and The Alienist would both be welcomed back with open arms by me.
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: IndigoPrime on 27 April, 2021, 08:44:31 AM
Helium and The Alienist at a least worked pretty well as standalone. The Bad Man was dreadful. I'm very glad that didn't become the basis for Dredd's world and has now been largely forgotten.
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: Barrington Boots on 27 April, 2021, 08:45:13 AM
Thirded on Helium and the Alienist.
I wasn't much of a fan of Flesh at the time, but I would've like to see it wrapped up one way or another..
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: Colin YNWA on 27 April, 2021, 08:54:18 AM
Over on the Prog 2228 review thread Broodblik copied across some comments Uncle Pat made on Twitter

QuoteFrom Pat's twitter related to Flesh:

Q: Are you and Clint Langley going to be working on a final chapter for Flesh? It ended on a heck of a cliffhanger...

A: Too busy just now. I'd need to review it and see if it required some rethink for the finale, both in story and art terms. Off hand, I'd say it needed it. I won't just knock it out. It's too important & I think Flesh deserves to go out on a high note, like Leo's Slaine.

I'd love to see it get finished.

Need to remind myself where Savage got to last time as well...
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: Link Prime on 27 April, 2021, 09:37:28 AM
Quote from: Barrington Boots on 27 April, 2021, 08:45:13 AM
Thirded on Helium and the Alienist.

Would like to see both return, but would love to see Eoin Coveney back in the Prog regardless.
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: AlexF on 27 April, 2021, 09:44:20 AM
On Savage, there's a feeling I have that somehow Pat needs to write one more book of ABCs/Ro-Busters that properly crosses over with Savage to give them both a sort of send-off.

'needs' being the opposite of the word I should use.
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: broodblik on 27 April, 2021, 09:54:11 AM
From all Pat's outstanding stuff Savage is the one I would like him to "finish"
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 27 April, 2021, 12:17:47 PM
Jones, of course. I really hate knowing that there was going to be loads more Jones, but then there wasn't.

Other than that, yeah, I would have liked to see how Savage ended up.  And at the risk of half of you jumping out of my monitor and battering me to death, I'd have enjoyed seeing how Big Dave fared in the Bush, Obama and Trump eras too.

Also, are we going to see more of that robot copper chap that Wagner and Ezquerra introduced a few years ago?  Loads of potential there, even considering the very sad loss of one of the creators.
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: I, Cosh on 27 April, 2021, 12:49:28 PM
I'm still looking forward to book 2 of Vanguard.
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: broodblik on 27 April, 2021, 12:51:57 PM
We have another culprit and it is Brass Sun. Great series wish we can have more of it.
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 27 April, 2021, 01:09:05 PM
Quote from: I, Cosh on 27 April, 2021, 12:49:28 PM
I'm still looking forward to book 2 of Vanguard.

I'm not :(
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: Colin YNWA on 27 April, 2021, 01:28:34 PM
Quote from: I, Cosh on 27 April, 2021, 12:49:28 PM
I'm still looking forward to book 2 of Vanguard.

Good call - I think that story really opened up at the end of the first series and had real potential.

Quote from: broodblik on 27 April, 2021, 12:51:57 PM
We have another culprit and it is Brass Sun. Great series wish we can have more of it.

Oh man I wish this was coming back!
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 27 April, 2021, 01:33:49 PM
Quote from: Colin YNWA on 27 April, 2021, 01:28:34 PM
Oh man I wish this was coming back!

I think Brass Sun, like Helium, is still theoretically on the cards but is waiting on a suitable gap in the relevant art droid's schedule. As I've said before, although I'd like to see more Brass Sun, if the price of that is less Brink, I'm not sure I'd take that trade-off...
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: The Corinthian on 27 April, 2021, 01:49:44 PM
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 27 April, 2021, 12:17:47 PMAnd at the risk of half of you jumping out of my monitor and battering me to death, I'd have enjoyed seeing how Big Dave fared in the Bush, Obama and Trump eras too.

Any world where Big Dave runs for at least 28 years but we still get Trump would be Hell, basically.
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: The Corinthian on 27 April, 2021, 01:50:53 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 27 April, 2021, 01:33:49 PM
Quote from: Colin YNWA on 27 April, 2021, 01:28:34 PM
Oh man I wish this was coming back!

I think Brass Sun, like Helium, is still theoretically on the cards but is waiting on a suitable gap in the relevant art droid's schedule. As I've said before, although I'd like to see more Brass Sun, if the price of that is less Brink, I'm not sure I'd take that trade-off...

Culbard's art lifts Brink immensely, but Brass Sun is the series he was born to draw.
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: broodblik on 27 April, 2021, 02:09:14 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 27 April, 2021, 01:33:49 PM
Quote from: Colin YNWA on 27 April, 2021, 01:28:34 PM
Oh man I wish this was coming back!

I think Brass Sun, like Helium, is still theoretically on the cards but is waiting on a suitable gap in the relevant art droid's schedule. As I've said before, although I'd like to see more Brass Sun, if the price of that is less Brink, I'm not sure I'd take that trade-off...

No problem just clone him and we have a solution.  Talking of Brink I think Abnett/Culbard is working on the new book so it might be ready for prog 2250 (another jump-on prog)
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: Colin YNWA on 27 April, 2021, 02:26:53 PM
Quote from: broodblik on 27 April, 2021, 02:09:14 PM
... Talking of Brink I think Abnett/Culbard is working on the new book so it might be ready for prog 2250 (another jump-on prog)

Really that is very, very good news!

Still demand MORE Brass Sun as well of course (I mean does INJ Culbard need to eat... or sleep... really...)
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: Tomwe on 27 April, 2021, 02:36:34 PM
Culbard's Vertigo Berger Books series is finished now so maybe he will have more time to work for Tharg!?
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: Colin YNWA on 27 April, 2021, 02:48:40 PM
Quote from: Tomwe on 27 April, 2021, 02:36:34 PM
Culbard's Vertigo Berger Books series is finished now so maybe he will have more time to work for Tharg!?

Right Tharg lock him in a cupboard until he has finished a new series of BOTH Brass Sun AND Brink... then you can let him out.... well actually I'd like to see him do Dredd... but after that he can go free...
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: broodblik on 27 April, 2021, 03:10:36 PM
Quote from: Colin YNWA on 27 April, 2021, 02:48:40 PM
Quote from: Tomwe on 27 April, 2021, 02:36:34 PM
Culbard's Vertigo Berger Books series is finished now so maybe he will have more time to work for Tharg!?

Right Tharg lock him in a cupboard until he has finished a new series of BOTH Brass Sun AND Brink... then you can let him out.... well actually I'd like to see him do Dredd... but after that he can go free...

Why would you free him he his to repeat the cycle: Brink Brass Dredd repeat until infinity beyond
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: Colin YNWA on 27 April, 2021, 03:30:17 PM
Quote from: broodblik on 27 April, 2021, 03:10:36 PM
Quote from: Colin YNWA on 27 April, 2021, 02:48:40 PM
Quote from: Tomwe on 27 April, 2021, 02:36:34 PM
Culbard's Vertigo Berger Books series is finished now so maybe he will have more time to work for Tharg!?

Right Tharg lock him in a cupboard until he has finished a new series of BOTH Brass Sun AND Brink... then you can let him out.... well actually I'd like to see him do Dredd... but after that he can go free...

Why would you free him he his to repeat the cycle: Brink Brass Dredd repeat until infinity beyond

The illusion of hope.
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: Tjm86 on 27 April, 2021, 04:46:55 PM
Quote from: broodblik on 27 April, 2021, 02:09:14 PM

Talking of Brink I think Abnett/Culbard is working on the new book so it might be ready for prog 2250 (another jump-on prog)

Have to be careful skim reading these.  Took me a few moments to realise it was prog 2250 ...  Thought having to wait over 200 years was a bit excessive ...  ::)
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: Funt Solo on 27 April, 2021, 06:39:03 PM
Quote from: Colin YNWA on 27 April, 2021, 06:28:45 AM
No sure if your going to keep going - so I'll not do spoilers but we know there's at least one a LOT earlier than that!

Feel free to join in - I'm not going to know all of them.  :)
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: The Corinthian on 27 April, 2021, 07:42:50 PM
Quote from: Colin YNWA on 27 April, 2021, 06:28:45 AM
No sure if your going to keep going - so I'll not do spoilers but we know there's at least one a LOT earlier than that!

I too can't wait to find out how Pussyfoot 5 fare with the Ghost War in Jezreel's Eye.
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 27 April, 2021, 07:56:18 PM
As Funt says it's okay to play, I'll end the anticipation:

Dan Dare: Servant of Evil, prog 126 in 1979.

(https://i.imgur.com/oip97RE.jpg)

In fairness to Tharg, he doesn't make any kind of promise that Dan will be back, just that he'll be taking a break - and he wasn't wrong!
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: The Corinthian on 27 April, 2021, 10:17:07 PM
The year ahead preview at the start of 1981* does, however, promise that DD would be back.

(* I don't have the prog to hand but it'd be somewhere around 195.)
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: Funt Solo on 27 April, 2021, 10:23:45 PM
There's a "Things To Come In '81" page in prog 192 - that might be it.
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: Funt Solo on 27 April, 2021, 10:38:44 PM
Quote from: broodblik on 27 April, 2021, 12:51:57 PM
We have another culprit and it is Brass Sun. Great series wish we can have more of it.

As the man said, it's Brass Sun, from prog 2072 in 1018:

(https://i.imgur.com/197G1s5.png)
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: oshii on 27 April, 2021, 10:42:56 PM
Ampney Crucis has been a long time gone.
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: Funt Solo on 27 April, 2021, 10:45:13 PM
Quote from: The Corinthian on 27 April, 2021, 07:42:50 PM
...can't wait to find out how Pussyfoot 5 fare with the Ghost War in Jezreel's Eye.

I had to look this one up to see how accurate The Corinthian was being (knowing his rather unorthodox eyesight issues), but sho'nuff, here's Pussyfoot 5, from prog 1256 in 2001:

(https://i.imgur.com/sWBrZFJ.png)
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: The Corinthian on 28 April, 2021, 08:51:21 AM
Quote from: Funt Solo on 27 April, 2021, 10:45:13 PMI had to look this one up to see how accurate The Corinthian was being (knowing his rather unorthodox eyesight issues)

Possibly I am not the one with the eyesight issues.

- Kate
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: The Monarch on 28 April, 2021, 10:15:08 AM
Quote from: The Corinthian on 27 April, 2021, 10:17:07 PM
The year ahead preview at the start of 1981* does, however, promise that DD would be back.

(* I don't have the prog to hand but it'd be somewhere around 195.)

To be fair to tharg A Dan Dare did return in 1982 just not the 2000ad version and not in 2000ad itself
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: Funt Solo on 28 April, 2021, 02:44:58 PM
Quote from: The Corinthian on 28 April, 2021, 08:51:21 AM
Quote from: Funt Solo on 27 April, 2021, 10:45:13 PMI had to look this one up to see how accurate The Corinthian was being (knowing his rather unorthodox eyesight issues)

Possibly I am not the one with the eyesight issues.

- Kate

*makes note* Not actually THE Corinthian.
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: The Corinthian on 28 April, 2021, 06:42:33 PM
 :-[ I had actually kind of forgotten that about my namesake.  :-[
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: Funt Solo on 28 April, 2021, 07:01:28 PM
To be fair, I was also making an actual gender assumption - sorry!

Funt Solo
him/his/mine!
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: broodblik on 29 April, 2021, 11:19:02 AM
Where we ever promises another series of Ampney Crucis? Even if is not true I still would like more of this
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: Funt Solo on 29 April, 2021, 03:06:21 PM
Ampney really did end, even though I was a bit confused by how abrupt it seemed - they went for the Dallas solution of waking up in a different reality:

(https://i.imgur.com/vDyEjQq.png)
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: The Corinthian on 29 April, 2021, 06:18:04 PM
It wasn't that long ago that everyone was wondering if we were ever going to have a follow up to that cliffhanger in Stickleback, so I live in hope.
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: broodblik on 29 April, 2021, 07:06:24 PM
Sometimes hope is equals to 6 years
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 29 April, 2021, 10:44:57 PM
I remember an Earthlet wrote in complaining of Tharg's usual empty promise of 'in the new year' - Rogue Trooper, in this case. Tharg pointed out that it was a mere spelling mistake, and it was meant to say 'in his new gear'.  The cheeky green wanker.
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: The Corinthian on 29 April, 2021, 11:22:25 PM
There was a time in 2000AD's history when readers thought there wasn't enough Rogue Trooper?!
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: AlexF on 30 April, 2021, 08:05:57 AM
In the Hachette collection, Davis and Edginton say they'd be quite up for doing more Ampney, and both agree it didn't really end in a satisfying way. But promises were not made!
Frankly its lower on my wishlist than Thistlebone, Helium and Brass Sun. But, givewn the inter-dimensional aspect to Ampney Crucis, I can well imagine the character (and his trusty batman) showing up in any given Edg-verse series. I suppose if Stickleback ever ends up digging tunnels into a Prep school he might meet a young Crucis snaffling pies while avoiding a well-earned caning.
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: The Corinthian on 30 April, 2021, 07:35:27 PM
Quote from: AlexF on 30 April, 2021, 08:05:57 AM
Frankly its lower on my wishlist than Thistlebone, Helium and Brass Sun.

Tbf, we can't exactly complain that more Thistlebone hasn't yet shown up despite being promised.
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 30 April, 2021, 07:39:33 PM
Do what I want, mate.

Sorry, I mean yeah, you're right, and it's the perfect time of year for this type of folk horror.
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: Funt Solo on 04 August, 2021, 07:56:17 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/8GSxX1e.png)
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: Richard on 05 August, 2021, 12:50:20 AM
I'm glad it didn't.
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: The Monarch on 05 August, 2021, 01:51:00 PM
so did gordon rennie i think :lol:
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: Funt Solo on 24 August, 2021, 04:39:21 PM
Final panel of Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon Tiger Sun, Dragon Moon:

(https://i.imgur.com/ZTMoIgx.png)


Still waiting...
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 21 October, 2021, 10:54:23 AM
Rogue Trooper, prog 1022, 1996.

Obviously not the end of Rogue Trooper the strip, or the Rogueverse at large, but the last that we've seen to date of Fr1day and Venus Bluegenes.

(https://i.imgur.com/brIWGfr.jpg)

Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: Link Prime on 21 October, 2021, 11:50:09 AM
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 21 October, 2021, 10:54:23 AM
Rogue Trooper, prog 1022, 1996.

Obviously not the end of Rogue Trooper the strip, or the Rogueverse at large, but the last that we've seen to date of Fr1day and Venus Bluegenes.


And:

Gunnar (Mk I Biochip)
Top (Mk II Biochip)
Eightball (Mk II Biochip)
Lucky (Mk II Biochip)

Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 21 October, 2021, 11:58:21 AM
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 21 October, 2021, 10:54:23 AM
the last that we've seen to date of Fr1day and Venus Bluegenes.

They leaked back out as Hawking radiation.
Title: Re: Promises, Promises...
Post by: paddykafka on 21 October, 2021, 12:20:01 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 21 October, 2021, 11:58:21 AM
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 21 October, 2021, 10:54:23 AM
the last that we've seen to date of Fr1day and Venus Bluegenes.

They leaked back out as Hawking radiation.

Still an improvement upon what they looked like as they were drawn into the Black Hole.  :D

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/spaghetti-with-tomato-sauce-picture-id1249549424?s=612x612