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Star Wars Episode IX

Started by JOE SOAP, 10 July, 2018, 01:50:53 AM

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Dandontdare

Quote from: JOE SOAP on 23 October, 2019, 01:15:10 PM
George Lucas Reacts to Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Final Trailer

Not able to watch yet (at work) but I like the intro: "Legendary producer George Lucas (Howard the Duck) reacts to..."

TordelBack

It's very well done, both face and voice, but the humour is very much from the Movie Mistakes school of 'hilarity'.

Tjm86

"It makes Attack of the Clones look like Citizen Kane ..."


:lol:

The suggestion about the household device that could have been used as a part of a robot though ....

:o

TordelBack

Quote from: Tjm86 on 23 October, 2019, 05:01:59 PM
"It makes Attack of the Clones look like Citizen Kane ..."

Yes, it must have taken a team of crack comedy writers to come up with that 'epic burn'  ::)

(Although if one were to compare some of the AotC trailers with this one that mightn't be a bad comparison... a more elegant approach, for a more civilised time).

Frank

Quote from: TordelBack on 23 October, 2019, 02:56:50 PM
It's very well done, both face and voice, but the humour is very much from the Movie Mistakes school of 'hilarity'.

Ah, come on - the prequels were risky for me because they were more operatic, more tone poems. It wasn't about dialogue or acting or any semblance of traditional film making we've known or understood since the beginning of cinema.

I know you love lots of parts of the prequels, but that's a funny burlesque of Lucas's attitude as seen in those DVD extras from the Bush/Blair era and the comical gap between his perception of what he was doing and the actual fruits of his direction.

I'm not a fan of critiquing the logic of movies (or any other kind of story) either, but gently ribbing the pomposity of actual billionaires who take themselves too seriously is what comedy's for.



TordelBack

Nah, that 'tone poem' bit is indeed very good.  It's just the banal talking-over trailer footage, dear grud unless you have something to say, that's done.

Frank

Quote from: TordelBack on 23 October, 2019, 06:16:26 PM
Nah, that 'tone poem' bit is indeed very good.  It's just the banal talking-over trailer footage, dear grud unless you have something to say, that's done.

To be honest, all he had to do was say crystal foxes and I cracked up, rather than the tired shit about Mary Sues in which all the DESTROYED! thumbnails the algorithm will be pushing on me* trade.

I say that as a very serious, prepubescent Return Of The Jedi obsessive**, who was incensed any time weary cynics slagged the Ewoks I loved and made withering Muppet jibes about my beloved.

Well, now I'm the grandad.


* now I've made the mistake of not watching that video in a private window. Actually, Youtube's algorithm is pretty easy to train, but it only takes one of those videos to send it off down a rabbit hole until you make with the NOT INTERESTED option from the dropdown menu

** For a long time, I maintained that Jedi was better than Star Wars, which it obviously isn't, but I believed that sincerely. Mostly based on the terrifying throne room confrontation and the way that sequence switched between Death Star Canyon II and AT-ST porn, which I still consider masterful.

Tiplodocus

I genuinely thought Lucas was seeing how many action sequences he could intercut effectively in a finale.

Star Wars - one; Trench run
Empire - two; luke vs. Vader and Leia bespin  escape
Jedi - three; throne room and endor and death star 2
Phantom: four; space battle, ground battle, palace raid and Darth Maul sabre fight

I was disappointed when Clones didn't have five things at once.
Be excellent to each other. And party on!

Hawkmumbler

Quote from: Tiplodocus on 23 October, 2019, 07:06:37 PM
I was disappointed when Clones didn't have five things at once.

5, Mass Genocides
4, Clones a'Shootin'
3, Alien Beasties
2, Jedi's Losing
And a Chrisopher Lee too good for this movie.

TordelBack

Quote from: Frank on 23 October, 2019, 06:43:32 PM
** For a long time, I maintained that Jedi was better than Star Wars, which it obviously isn't, but I believed that sincerely. Mostly based on the terrifying throne room confrontation and the way that sequence switched between Death Star Canyon II and AT-ST porn, which I still consider masterful.[/i]

Coincidentally I just finished rewatching  that one, and no question, Jedi from the point they meet up back at the fleet is just fantastic. Not that I dislike Jabba, but there's so much repetition in the first half: 3 arrivals at Jabba's Palace,  2 arrivals at the Death Star (again) and then Dagobah (again): it's slow, and a bit of a mess.  But anything with speeder bikes, fleet engagements, Ewoks and the Emperor: brill.

Frank


Hitchcock described his function as a director as a switchback railroad operator, controlling the emotional response of the audience.

The final act of Return Of The Jedi is as good an example of that as I can think of, building the tension then relieving it, making you think the story's going one way and then the other. I was a wreck every time I watched it on video.

That's what Smarty Scorsese was talking about when he described Marvel movies as theme parks the other week. There's no doubt those movies work by exploiting your emotional and visceral response to spectacle and peril, but when it's done with such skill it's foolish to dispute the artistry involved.



TordelBack

I've no problem with those big lads expressing disdain for the production line of Marvel movies: they know their craft and they know what they like. But the long sad history of superhero films would indicate that making successful, satisfying ones is very far from easy. See also: Star Wars films.

sheridan

Quote from: Tiplodocus on 22 October, 2019, 01:28:53 PM
It looks like a training remote chasing her at start so it might be a training exercise.


The training remote is more obvious in the previous trailer (the one which is half-full of clips from previous films).

sheridan

Quote from: TordelBack on 23 October, 2019, 12:30:09 PM
Currently I'm wondering how the Emperor's throne room, set on the top of an incredibly spindly largely-hollow observation tower, managed to survive the Death Star's destruction pretty much intact (chair still in place!), enter an atmosphere and land right-way up. It'll be even more puzzling when it turns out this watery place isn't even on Endor.


I was thinking about that today (well, not the landing right-way up bit).  I think it might be more likely the throne tower survived the destruction of DS2 than if it had been on DS1.  I figure that any explosive forces would naturally flow towards the bits of the space station that hadn't been completed yet.

TordelBack

Watching RotJ earlier,  and you can definitely see larger pieces of the DS2 when Leia and Han are watching the explosion from the surface.  As Sheridan notes,  if any bit of the station survived,  it's more likely to be the bit sticking out furthest from the core and the unfinished parts. It's more that it appears to have survived re-entry and ended up upright and level. And it occurs that the books had the rebels using tractor beams and whatnot to protect Endor from the impact of larger debris,  so maybe they effected soft landings for the bigger bits?

Still convinced this isn't Endor, mind.