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Star Wars Episode IX

Started by JOE SOAP, 10 July, 2018, 01:50:53 AM

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TordelBack

Quote from: SIP on 17 August, 2018, 10:22:49 PM... large chunks of Clone wars were quite adult in tone ...

Large chunks certainly, but by no means all, or even most. I'm currently watching the 5th Season with my son, and while there are plenty of complex intense arcs, there's also an 8-episode block in the middle where we follow Younglings playing Treasure Island, then a gang of comedy droids  led by a incompetent bombastic frog.  The (serious) episode where the Jedi Temple is bombed features a Crime Scene Investigation droid called (for no in-story reason) Russo, who keeps taking his robo-shades on and off.  Clearly this Dave Filoni is the natural heir to Vittorio de Sica.

Now I like these silly stories, probably because I'm capable of enjoying material that doesn't include a certain number of decapitations per act, but for that too-vocal section of fandom to suddenly decide that they didn't abhor Ashoka, demanded Lucas stopped interfering, and moaned incessantly about cutesy story arcs on every available forum...

I have zero problem with Star Wars cartoons being made for kids, and I fully expect to watch this. Although I suspect the realisation that - yet again - pretty much all these characters will be dead by the end of Episode VIII is going to be a downer.

JOE SOAP



In terms of general content, Rebels skews a bit younger than The Clone Wars, but it hews much closer to the tone parameters of the original films than any other Star Wars release.

TordelBack

#167
S'right.  My eldest was 2-and-a-bit when The Clone Wars came out, too young to see it in the cinema, but we he watched, and loved, the cartoons from the time he was 3. He still loves them at 12, and can't wait for the 'new' season. 

Rebels came out when he was 8, and while he enjoyed watching it, it was never really his thing - the main character was a kid, and there weren't enough Clones, even when Rex, Wolfe and Gregor showed up.  (I liked it a lot, especially the McQuarrie aesthetic, and the mystical bits).  He already knew what he wanted from SW and this wasn't really it.

At the ripe old age of 12 he took one look at the Resistance trailer and condemned it as being 'for kids' (although I'm sure he'll watch it with me nonetheless, he likes to humour the elderly). 

This is how it should be.  You have your own bit of Star Wars, pitched perfectly when you are the right age (for me that Star Destroyer overhead at 6, for my son, the Second Battle of Geonosis at 3), you enjoy others, and some bits just aren't for you: they're for someone else.  I was thrilled to find that TLJ was another SW moment that worked perfectly for me - but I didn't expect it.

Going on the internet and systematically down-voting, 'boycotting' and bitching about something that may not be for you before it's even aired, IMO largely because you've been sucked into some kind of quasi-hysterical socio-politically motivated group-think... This one isn'y for you, move the fuck along, find some rape-porn and dig in. I honestly think I'm completely done with modern 'fandom'. It's beyond pathetic, and its starting to make me dread every new release, rather than looking forward to it.

JOE SOAP

#168
The twitter-storm will be EPIC.

Lucasfilm's Kathleen Kennedy Gets 3-Year Contract Extension

Looks like that Rian Johnson trilogy is still a go.

TordelBack

B-b-b-ut, all the True Fans told me on their YouTube channels that Secret Lucasfilm Sources had confirmed her having been fired on multiple occasions... She must have threatened Bob Iger that she'd tell everyone he dropped the hand at the Christmas party.  It's Me Too 3rd Wave Feminism PC Cuck Madness! 

JOE SOAP

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sheridan

Quote from: TordelBack on 18 August, 2018, 10:46:57 AM
Going on the internet and systematically down-voting, 'boycotting' and bitching about something that may not be for you before it's even aired, IMO largely because you've been sucked into some kind of quasi-hysterical socio-politically motivated group-think... This one isn'y for you, move the fuck along, find some rape-porn and dig in. I honestly think I'm completely done with modern 'fandom'. It's beyond pathetic, and its starting to make me dread every new release, rather than looking forward to it.
It's fairly easy to avoid all that negativity - to be honest I think I could cut it out completely if I don't follow the links from threads like this one.

Tiplodocus

Yep. If the thumbnail has a person pulling at their hair in frustration, don't Watch it. Don't read comments sections.


I must have missed where it said Johnson's trilogy was still on. Another Indy movie seems a mistake though unless there's some good baton passing and it goes all M:I on the stuntwork.
Be excellent to each other. And party on!

TordelBack

#173
Well,  no. You basically have to avoid ALL online content relating to SW, with very few exceptions. Imagine if the second post of every thread on here claimed Matt Smith was worse than Hitler,  every story since Rebellion took over was shit, the inclusion of Judges Anderson and Giant was a liberal feminazi conspiracy to destroy the white race and we should boycott the comic until Steve McManus comes back: that's where we're at. As I've been involved in SW discussions on the internet since the days of Listserv, long before I discovered alt.comics.2000AD, it's a bit galling to feel I now have to avoid all news and comment on the subject to prevent the red mist descending.

Meanwhile,  I've been devouring the rather antiseptic bonus content on the Solo Blu-ray,  and doing episodic rewatches - for all its issues, it really is just great fun. Disney could do worse than get Howard, the Kasdans and the rather excellent Bradford Young on to Solo 2 toot-sweet.

SIP

I'm really pleased that the Indy film is still a potential, my heart sunk when they delayed it. Fingers well and truly crossed that it still happens with Harrison, not particularly interested without him though.

TordelBack

Have to agree there. I thought KotCS worked well as a happy ending,  but I also think TFA and Bladerunner 2049 showed that Ford can still cut a rug. I'm sure we'll have Indy movies in the future starring Pete Davidson or whoever,  and I'm sure I couldn't care less, but while we still have the main man we should make hay - Indiana Jones and the Age of Aquarius rather appeals.

SIP

Quote from: TordelBack on 29 September, 2018, 10:20:26 AM
Have to agree there. I thought KotCS worked well as a happy ending,  but I also think TFA and Bladerunner 2049 showed that Ford can still cut a rug. I'm sure we'll have Indy movies in the future starring Pete Davidson or whoever,  and I'm sure I couldn't care less, but while we still have the main man we should make hay - Indiana Jones and the Age of Aquarius rather appeals.

I really thought he was excellent in BR2049, as good a performance as he's ever done.

Indy has eclipsed Star Wars as my number one nerd love (I saw Raiders with a live orchestra the other week, that was great), and the prospect of one more Spielberg/Lucas/Ford film is really exciting.

I'm sure that they can write a great film for old Indy, absolutely no reason why not......so I really hope that the project gets some traction now after the previous worrying announcement that production was being put back for 1 year. Obviously Ford isn't getting any younger, and it would be sad if this was a missed opportunity.

Tiplodocus

Actually, yeah. I'm being ageist. Ford could still take me in a fight. Karen Allen probably too.

And I'm doing a 10k tomorrow where doubtless I'll be outrun by men and women with 20 years on me.

The right script and staging will do it.
Be excellent to each other. And party on!

The Legendary Shark


Indiana Jones and the Onset of Arthritis.

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SIP

Quote from: The Legendary Shark on 29 September, 2018, 12:45:14 PM

Indiana Jones and the Onset of Arthritis.

Damn, he's doing well at 76 if that's the case......that got me in my early 40's!