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Title: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Pete Wells on 27 October, 2012, 09:29:01 AM
Wow... This prog, well, 60% of it is a total mindfuck as ( HUGE SPOILER ALERT, DON'T READ UNLESS YOUR REALLY HAVE TO ) [spoiler]Dredd, Simping Detective AND Low Life all seamlessly merge into one story![/spoiler] Wow! We've had the clues but I still didn't see it coming!

Cover - I like everything about this. The blacks, the contrasting reds, it's a stunner and totally in keeping with Hammerstein's dark thoughts within...

Dredd - yaaaaaay [spoiler]Roffman's alive[/spoiler]! A great procedural episode with Dredd particularly grim. My heart leapt when I saw Gavin Leahy Block, it was a long time coming but well worth it! A cracking episode...

Simp - yep, continuing to enjoy this, in fact, even more so now...

Low Life - mien Gott! D'Israeli is amazing isn't he? More giggles with Dirty Frank and a stunning centre spread that made me gasp! I will say no more.

ABCs - wow, Hammerstein mk 4's! A crazy Mills script this week that ends with a great cliff hanger. The way I see it, whichever course of action Hammerstein takes, he's screwing it up for robot kind...

Brass Sun - more beautiful artwork and impressive world building. I adore this strip, I really do. Another great cliffhanger too.

Sorry if this is all a bit vague guys, you'll see why when you get the prog...
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Pete Wells on 27 October, 2012, 09:30:57 AM
Gah, of course that should say Prog 1807, help me mods, you're my only hope!
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: blixab on 27 October, 2012, 09:35:13 AM
If my sub arrived as early as this most weeks, I think my postie would be nominated for a KTT. 
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: chris_askham on 27 October, 2012, 09:59:42 AM
Bah! Too late. Thinking this was about prog 1806 I read the first paragraph, spoiler included, before the penny dropped... >:(
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Pete Wells on 27 October, 2012, 10:01:55 AM
I'm really sorry Chris. Why the fuck this forum hasn't got an edit button when every other one does is beyond me.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Darren Stephens on 27 October, 2012, 10:10:56 AM
Quote from: chris_askham on 27 October, 2012, 09:59:42 AM
Bah! Too late. Thinking this was about prog 1806 I read the first paragraph, spoiler included, before the penny dropped... >:(
Me too. Sheeeiiiit! :/  Thought it was a joke thread or sutin...
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 27 October, 2012, 10:20:35 AM
I knew it what it was about and i read it anyway, cos that's the kind of danger-baiting monster that i am! (and there's another thread around here alluding to something happening, and i couldnt wait til wednesday). I love the prog, me. And i love it when tharg pulls shizzle like this. A mod, im sure, will change the title. Accidents happen. Let's just velebrate tharg's magnificent brain.

SBT
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: oshii on 27 October, 2012, 10:24:57 AM
That was ace.  Clever.  Very clever.  Bravo Mighty One.


Really good prog.  Not a duffer anywhere at the moment.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: chuffsteruk on 27 October, 2012, 10:44:18 AM
.....and, of course, my copy hasn't arrived  :(
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Pioneer on 27 October, 2012, 10:53:35 AM
Yeah same ways. First time in bloody aaaages as well. Typs.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Batman's Superior Cousin on 27 October, 2012, 11:01:42 AM
Mine should arrive around 12 to 1 o'clock
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Mike Carroll on 27 October, 2012, 11:06:42 AM
Quote from: Pete Wells on 27 October, 2012, 09:30:57 AM
Gah, of course that should say Prog 1807, help me mods, you're my only hope!

Done!
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Pete Wells on 27 October, 2012, 11:14:31 AM
Cheers Mike, I've had a knot in my stomach all morning!
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 27 October, 2012, 11:32:10 AM
Wow. That was quite audacious. [spoiler]I had a brief double-take there before the penny dropped with Simp, but then Low Life, too...! Brilliantly done. Hats off to all the droids and a splendid rejoinder to those who were critical of the Mighty One for allowing three Dredd-world strips in the prog at the same time.[/spoiler]

ABCs continues to barrel along at a pace that seems to leave me unconcerned, oblivious even, to plot holes and anachronisms and just manages to be enormous fun.

Brass Sun sets off echoes of Feersum Endjinn this week but breezes right past this as a bit of incidental detail and continues to mystify and delight in equal measure.

Another top prog. It baffles me why anyone who claims to like comics isn't buying 2000AD; it's almost always good and at the moment it's positively spectacular. In the last few years, at it's 'worst' the prog has been comfortably better than about 90% of everything else published in mainstream comics, at it's best (like now) there's pretty much nothing to touch it.

Cheers!

Jim
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Rog69 on 27 October, 2012, 11:34:47 AM
Brilliant  :o

Just when you think the prog can't possibly get any better, they raise the bar again.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: JamesC on 27 October, 2012, 12:15:09 PM
This week's prog feels like Tharg's personal "fuck you" to me after my criticisms of last week's prog.

I should know better than to question the mighty one.

Brilliant prog wrapped up in my favourite cover of the year.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Batman's Superior Cousin on 27 October, 2012, 12:16:17 PM
Wow, just wow!!! :o
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Spikes on 27 October, 2012, 01:09:29 PM
A quick look at this thread (without clicking on the spoilers!) and it looks like summat special is waiting for us?
Those 3 days, til Wednesday, are so gonna drag!!
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: blixab on 27 October, 2012, 01:22:07 PM
Top Prog - don't want to say any more for fear of spoiling it for the none subscribers.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Pete Wells on 27 October, 2012, 01:22:15 PM
Quote from: JamesC on 27 October, 2012, 12:15:09 PM
Brilliant prog wrapped up in my favourite cover of the year.

Clint has just sent that through, s'beautiful. I'll upload it to the blog tonight...
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 27 October, 2012, 02:03:58 PM
Clever, clever, clever, CLEVER.

This is what I get for doubting Tharg.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Steve Green on 27 October, 2012, 02:14:11 PM
Well, that was stunning. Hats off to all involved.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: A.Cow on 27 October, 2012, 02:15:18 PM
BEST!
THRILL!
EVER!

(6 stars out of 5)
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Gavin_Leahy_Block on 27 October, 2012, 02:21:55 PM
This will be the longest wait I have for a prog ever.

I had to check the spoilers as I could not resist, [spoiler]I had suspensions that Low Life and The Simping Detective would be connected, the ducks on the wall a few of weeks ago were my biggest clue, but I would have never imagined that they would be somehow connected to Dredd. This must be why Si Spurrier was so excited, yet very cagey when I was talking to him about The Simping Detective at DICE.[/spoiler]   
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Dandontdare on 27 October, 2012, 02:23:03 PM
First time my prog's come on a Saturday for ages - woohoo! As usual I saved Dredd till last, [spoiler]which turned out to be a mistake this week. [/spoiler]
Quote from: Dandontdare on 18 October, 2012, 02:36:19 PM[spoiler]It may be a bad idea to have two ex-meg strips about undercover judges running in the prog at the same time, but when they're both this good I don't care.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]I did toy with the idea, but thought naah, they're too different, that's just crazy talk. Hush my mouth. Still trying to get my head around it all, but very coolly done.[/spoiler]
And yay Gavin Leahy block!

ABC warriors is currently better than it's been for a long time, really loving this run (has anyone worked out whether the dates match up to Quartz's ancient brother who we met in that old Ro-busters story? I bet they do.

And Brass Sun continues to delight. I read the speech in thee final panel and then did a double-take as my eye finally registered the other automatons coming through the grass - that's beautiful cliff-hangering artwork there.

Top prog wrapped in a great cover. Tharg continues to surprise and delight. I'm going to make another brew and read it all again front to back I think.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Colin YNWA on 27 October, 2012, 02:32:02 PM
Well, well and indeed well. You know whats great about all three of the Dredd world stories is [spoiler]that for all their connections and frankly stunning intertwining is they still read fine as individual stories[/spoiler]. I was half way through Simping Detective thinking, oh that's weird so much overlap between the two... penny dropped Colin feels particularly stupid. Its funny after saying I was disappointed that the Wagner Death and co story wasn't running along side a main Dredd story (as suggested by a resent CBR article) as that could led to some interesting stuff, a few days later we get this instead.  Massive congratulations to all concerned brilliant stuff.

So you think that'd be it and for its sheer innovation it all wins the Prog hands down BUT to be honest if you were to ask me on an individual story basis whats the Prog's highlight I'd honestly say its Brass Sun. With everything that's going on it really is that good. Bloody love it. Oh and poor old ABC Warriors if Tharg still had those cut out polls this fella would be rock bottom, which is no fair reflection of how good it is and how much fun.

Seriously just when you thought the Galaxies greatest couldn't get any better Tharg pulls this one off and gives us all a nerdgasm.

True genius.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Proudhuff on 27 October, 2012, 02:46:15 PM
Spoilers look away now you Wedesday boys...

Great cover, I know black, red and white classic baddie colours but it should works here.

The E-Wing Droid is responsible for my cat's upset, I did really bark out loud at the site of [spoiler]Roffman and the his 'Sphincter and you' [/spoiler] who said he was anally retentive?? Loved [spoiler]Roffman's[/spoiler] questions too.

[spoiler]Teleport ? to where? when?[/spoiler] aaaaaaagh!

And Gavin's Block yah!

The linking of[spoiler] Simp, DF and Dredd is [/spoiler] genius, pure and simples, the flying ducks, cups o tea dunking bourbons

Alle Hagel das Projekt!! as they say on the moon.



Damage report gives a hint of what it takes to get here thro  ;)
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Fisticuffs on 27 October, 2012, 02:54:11 PM
Absolutely LOVED it, had to read the first page of Simp' twice and then go back to Dredd to make sure I wasn't imagining things. Top stuff!!!
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Fisticuffs on 27 October, 2012, 02:56:58 PM
Oh and also, when did the 'new' Lawmasters come into use? Or is it just a case of individual artistic interpetation? Either way, I think the one in this prog is pretty damn awesome.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Buttonman on 27 October, 2012, 03:35:09 PM
Hat doffed to the Mighty One - still pulling off surprises 35 years on. Just a shame they couldn't [spoiler]shoe horn in Dredd world references to Brass Sun and The ABCs - or maybe I just missed them?[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Proudhuff on 27 October, 2012, 03:51:02 PM
Quote from: Buttonman on 27 October, 2012, 03:35:09 PM
Hat doffed to the Mighty One - still pulling off surprises 35 years on. Just a shame they couldn't [spoiler]shoe horn in Dredd world references to Brass Sun and The ABCs - or maybe I just missed them?[/spoiler]

Pat Mills has enough trouble retro- linking all his tales without linking into Dredd, perhaps Brass sun ould be set in a snowshaker in [spoiler]Luna-citi 2?[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: douglaswolk on 27 October, 2012, 08:28:32 PM
Yeah, absolutely phenomenal. The only thing I can think of that's anything like this is [spoiler]the Dead Man reveal and segue into the "Tale" thereof[/spoiler]--and this is even trickier than that. I especially love [spoiler]Dredd kicking down the door into the next page[/spoiler]; if anyone can do that, he can--!

Seriously, I don't think the Prog has ever been this [spoiler]consistently great[/spoiler] before. [spoiler]Cover to cover, all five features,[/spoiler] I can't wait to [spoiler]find out what happens next[/spoiler].
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Banners on 27 October, 2012, 09:10:53 PM
What a moment.

I read Dredd, saw the first panel of Simping Detective and thought that it was a very poor piece of editing.

And then - one sweet, coruscating, beautiful moment later, I twigged it. And then, as good as that was, we got another moment and even more splendour in Low Life. Wow! This is how you do comics. And how lucky we are that this coming together wasn't spoilered in any way.

A couple of weeks ago, I thought about moaning on here about three MC1 stories and two even being about Wally Squad, but this was awesome. This week's Prog is a milestone. It is a work of art. All Hail Tharg! Genius.

I've just read all three strips back from their beginnings, and as exciting as this week's confluence is, there are still a lot of questions to answer. Can't wait for next week's Prog now. Haven't been this excited about the next issue since I was a kid.

Congrats and thanks to all the creators involved.

Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Trout on 27 October, 2012, 09:28:27 PM
This is how you make me feel, Tharg:

(http://dscdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Oh-My.png)

That's the face I was pulling all the way through this comic.

My congratulations to everyone involved. Jim's put it best: how can anyone profess to be a comic fan yet miss out of this experience?
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: House of Usher on 27 October, 2012, 09:55:32 PM
That convergence was pretty damned impressive.
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Post by: Dan Kelly on 27 October, 2012, 10:18:42 PM
That was so great that I've just been back to to 1804 and the start- really repays it!

Spoiler lite conclusions:

We now know who the fatty was in Simp and I think we can also guess where Jack is bound next..

I am willing to place bets on Overdrive's business partner.

Anyone have any ideas who Judge "glasses" is?

Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Batman's Superior Cousin on 27 October, 2012, 10:41:30 PM
What does [spoiler]The Church of Simpology[/spoiler] & [spoiler]Daveez[/spoiler] have to do with it??
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: A.Cow on 28 October, 2012, 01:14:02 AM
Now it's all starting to make sense -- [spoiler]the urban paraclete (city holy spirit)  and the god city,  and Bachmann[/spoiler].

And we've now seen the mysterious TDM [spoiler](i.e. the judge in the first part of this Low Life story)[/spoiler]...

Can't wait to see where this is going!
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 28 October, 2012, 09:01:19 AM
Thickie McSilly here had to read The Simping Detective about ten times to see how it linked to Dredd. I was wondering what you were on about. Of course, going from Dredd to Brass Sun instead of reading in order was partly to blame. That, and being thick.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: James Stacey on 28 October, 2012, 09:22:58 AM
Just to echo other people's sentiments and, wow, what a mindfuck.  Hats off to all concerned. You don't get this kinda shizzle in American comics without months of advertising MEGA CROSSOVER which wouldn't work in this case. As if juggling the running of 5 strips a week wasn't enough we get 3 seamlessly and seemingly effortlessly segueing into each other. Not sure how it will work as a graphic novel but it was an absolute joy to read and experience. I wonder to what extent they will continue to overlap now the link is out there. Exciting stuff indeed. Dredd/Point/Frank cover next week?
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Pete Wells on 28 October, 2012, 09:28:08 AM
Quote from: James Stacey on 28 October, 2012, 09:22:58 AM
Dredd/Point/Frank cover next week?

Good Grud, I hope so!
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: vzzbux on 28 October, 2012, 11:00:29 AM
Now all we need is a Lenny Zero link. Seriously though, maybe having Lenny in the prog was just to throw us off the scent, so we didn't think it too odd that the Simping Detective was also being shoehorned into the prog.





V
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 28 October, 2012, 11:07:54 AM
Wow!
Not just that it was done but the way it was done with no spoilers or leaks.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: oshii on 28 October, 2012, 11:15:22 AM
Quote from: eamonn1961 on 28 October, 2012, 11:07:54 AM
Wow!
Not just that it was done but the way it was done with no spoilers or leaks.

Yeah, was just thinking that.  Apologies to non subscribers, but not having a clue that was going to happen was fantastic.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: judge devs on 28 October, 2012, 12:54:39 PM
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 27 October, 2012, 02:54:11 PM
Absolutely LOVED it, had to read the first page of Simp' twice and then go back to Dredd to make sure I wasn't imagining things. Top stuff!!!

I so did that, I had some serious double takes between the last page of Dredd and the first page of the Simping Detective.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Richard on 28 October, 2012, 01:02:49 PM
Me too, until Dredd [spoiler]arrested Jack Point for the murder of Folger.[/spoiler] Then I did a double-take, went back and read it all again. Then it happened again.

I'm really, really impressed. Not seen anything like it since [spoiler]The Dead Man[/spoiler], and that was with [spoiler]one writer, not three[/spoiler]. That in itself requires remarkable co-ordination between all concerned.

QuoteAnd how lucky we are that this coming together wasn't spoilered in any way.
Well, not until 9:10:53 anyway! (Only joking; if people haven't read the prog then they shouldn't be reading this thread!)
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Batman's Superior Cousin on 28 October, 2012, 01:22:31 PM
Richard, should this story be mentioned on Wikipedia? Have it's own article?
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Richard on 28 October, 2012, 01:32:54 PM
Don't even know what it would be called yet!
Let's wait and see how it pans out.
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Post by: Batman's Superior Cousin on 28 October, 2012, 02:48:50 PM
Ok, I onlt asked 'cause it's refered to as a Mega Epic AND 'cause of this week's Prog!!!
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Colin YNWA on 28 October, 2012, 06:23:46 PM
Well I've done what I'd assume many would given the chance and read the lot again this afternoon and pieces don't half all fall together. Bloody brilliant it really is (well aside from that first Dredd page last week but I'll not drag that whole thing up again now will I...)
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 28 October, 2012, 06:48:28 PM
I'm confused. Wasn't the data chip swapped in last week's Simping Detective?
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Banners on 28 October, 2012, 07:01:52 PM
I think we could do with a quick wrap-up of what we know so far. For example...

Quote from: Dan Kelly
We now know who the fatty was in Simp and I think we can also guess where Jack is bound next..

...do we? Did I miss something (quite probably...!)
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: James Stacey on 28 October, 2012, 07:31:30 PM
Quote from: The Enigmatic Dr X on 28 October, 2012, 06:48:28 PM
I'm confused. Wasn't the data chip swapped in last week's Simping Detective?
Wasn't it moved from the justice dept servers last week? This week it moved to overdrive.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 28 October, 2012, 07:33:29 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 28 October, 2012, 07:31:30 PM
Quote from: The Enigmatic Dr X on 28 October, 2012, 06:48:28 PM
I'm confused. Wasn't the data chip swapped in last week's Simping Detective?
Wasn't it moved from the justice dept servers last week? This week it moved to overdrive.

Dr X means that Miss Anne Thrope swapped the statues (and, presumably, the chips).
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 28 October, 2012, 07:57:56 PM
I do indeed. So what was swapped for what?

Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 28 October, 2012, 08:00:13 PM
One possibility:

The Gold File was stolen, and then swapped for a fake one - all at Bachmann's (or whatever the Sarah Palin judge's name is) instructions. So, she gets to stitch up some but not all of the Wally Squad or otherwise seed dis-information.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Dan Kelly on 28 October, 2012, 08:31:37 PM
Quote from: Banners on 28 October, 2012, 07:01:52 PM
I think we could do with a quick wrap-up of what we know so far. For example...

Quote from: Dan Kelly
We now know who the fatty was in Simp and I think we can also guess where Jack is bound next..

...do we? Did I miss something (quite probably...!)

Heavy spoilers:

[spoiler]Its mentioned in Dredd that Folger has had some heavy modification before she died.

Then in this weeks Dredd we overhear someone dumping a body in a rad pit. This is Jack dumping the fatty. Which in turn Dredd knows to be Folger [/spoiler]
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Banners on 28 October, 2012, 08:49:57 PM
(Can't do Spoiler tags, sorry)

Cheers Dan. Yeah, that's what I thought. But in Prog 1804 the Fatty refers to "The Broomcupboard Bitch" which could mean Folger since in #1806 we're told she's Admin only. Also, the remains of Folger retain the metallic eye patch, whereas the Fatty doesn't have one. If the Fatty was Folger - thanks to the Boing and Flabbon which is mentioned - the eye patch would surely have been visible...?
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Steve Green on 28 October, 2012, 09:28:52 PM
[spoiler]The broomcupboard bitch is Bachmann[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Richard on 28 October, 2012, 09:40:51 PM
We saw the eyepatch on Folger's corpse last week.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Pete Wells on 28 October, 2012, 10:03:19 PM
I'm going to go back and have a re-read too. Would anyone be kind enough to compile a complete reading list? I'm thinking the black ops stories that introduced Bachmann and any that contain that God city thing as I must admit I'm struggling a bit with that...  :-[
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Steve Green on 28 October, 2012, 10:34:07 PM
I think the first mention of the god city was in Si Spurriers Domino stories, although she's not re-appeared (yet)

2000 AD #1482

Judge Dredd Megazine #245 (I think that's the neo-cuba one)

Then there would be the Family Man story in the Megazine # 312 and 313

Not sure if there's any others.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Mikey on 29 October, 2012, 08:59:43 AM
Absolutely fantastic cover - stark, brooding and eye catching. Lovely.

First of all, in a way I feel a bit sorry for Gavin Leahy as he got inna prog the week the rug was pulled. Not that much though -  WHAT A WEEK TO APPEAR IN! Congratulations Gav - your block on the page and a mention in the script!

I'll start with the others first; Brass Sun is continuing to be an absolute pleasure and a bit of a masterpiece if you ask me. It's been at or near the top of the thrill tree since it started for me, but this week I can only say it's fourth or fifth!

ABC Warriors is also a top thrill. I'm loving it and it feels like one of the most accomplished and enjoyable ABC outings for a while for me. Again it can only be fourth or fifth this week. Great stuff.

Now...the [spoiler]Judge Cold Simping Low Life Deck.[/spoiler]

(http://windsurfatlanta.org/sites/default/files/pictures/clippy/OrsonWellesClap.gif)

Congatulations to the creators. Perfectly executed.

Tharg, I love you.

M.

Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: WhitBloke on 29 October, 2012, 09:11:36 AM
I can't type any manner of rational 'review' for this thrillgasm of a Prog.  JOYOUS! goes some towards covering it, though.
I've been an absolute bliss-bag reading and re-reading it. 

ABC Warriors dipped, though... :(
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Pete Wells on 29 October, 2012, 09:32:34 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 28 October, 2012, 10:34:07 PM
I think the first mention of the god city was in Si Spurriers Domino stories, although she's not re-appeared (yet)
2000 AD #1482
Judge Dredd Megazine #245 (I think that's the neo-cuba one)
Then there would be the Family Man story in the Megazine # 312 and 313

Thanks Steve, my bedtime reading is sorted!
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Pioneer on 29 October, 2012, 02:53:49 PM
My copy arrived this morning, just read in my lunch break....

Absolutely amazing stuff! After jumping back on in 2008 buying GN's then subscribing to both comics in 2010 I have been on one long quest to collect everything Dreddverse I possibly can, and have been compiling a timeline for the order in which to read everything, starting with Case Files One.

The fact that a major Dredd story has linked into not one but two other spin off tales running at the same time is the sort of thing that puts a massive smile on the face of a continuity obsessed nerd like me!

Could this be the dawning of a new era where it could be common practice for a team of writers to work together on projects such as this? I for one sincerely hope so, as this issue has cemented the notion that subscribing (and rediscovering two years previous for that matter) has been one of the best moves I've made in recent years!

What with the recent film, DOC etc there has never been a better time to be a Dredd / 2000ad fan.
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Post by: Pioneer on 29 October, 2012, 02:57:28 PM
Edit : Even more impressive is reflecting on John Wagners Facebook post a few months ago, where he posted something along the lines of "... I'm interested to see what the other writers do with the pieces I've left them" in the wake of Day Of Chaos.

Ewing, Spurrier and Williams have stepped up to that challenge and then some!
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Steve Green on 29 October, 2012, 03:47:54 PM
I'd love to see interviews with those concerned once the story has run its course.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: scrotnig on 29 October, 2012, 06:49:22 PM
Wow...what an AWESOME piece of execution that was...truly stunning, and took me totally by surprise. How brilliant is it when any piece of fiction in any medium can actually surprise you in such a way? Fantastic.

Can't praise that enough, and after everything we've had in the past twelve month, to be able to pull off a surprise like that, and so masterfully done as well...words fail me this time.

Of course, with hindsight we should all have guessed something was coming...but I didn't.

A game-changing prog.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: scrotnig on 29 October, 2012, 06:50:52 PM
Oh and on top of that, to have all THAT going on in a prog, and then have the gumption not to put any of it on the cover!
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Colin YNWA on 29 October, 2012, 07:21:23 PM
Quote from: scrotnig on 29 October, 2012, 06:50:52 PM
Oh and on top of that, to have all THAT going on in a prog, and then have the gumption not to put any of it on the cover!

Yeah that's a very good point. A true example of something being done for story reasons not for marketing. The American big two so often claim that but I doubt they'd do something like this.

Mind having said that hope they play it for all their worth on the cover next week!
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Kerrin on 29 October, 2012, 08:12:23 PM
GRUD ON A GREENIE!!!

That was just unbelievable. It took me a good couple of minutes to twig what was going on in Simp then like some goldfish brained gump I was forced to emit an audible "F#ck!" at the relevent moment of awesomeness in Lowlife - it's a Monday, I feel it is unreasonable to expect me to be "on point" on a Monday.

BRAVO GREENBONCE!! And a resounding HOLY SH*T to the writers.

Off to read Brass Sun. I just felt I had to express my awe at the first three strips this week. I was already enjoying them but after that...well, shoot.

Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Dandontdare on 29 October, 2012, 08:18:36 PM
I've just had a reread of the last few weeks, and I think I've figured out quite a bit of who's doing what and why, but one nagging question won't go away: [spoiler]Why did Dredd wait and let the list get transmitted? [/spoiler].

(Oh and one other question, whose obvious answer is PLOT DEVICE - ie [spoiler]why would an undercover judge whose undergone deep tissue body modification have a big Justice dept tattoo?  :lol:[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Dandontdare on 29 October, 2012, 08:19:54 PM
dammit who's, not whose

Is there any rhyme or reason to the coming-and-going modify button or is it just random?
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 29 October, 2012, 08:21:33 PM
Just noticed the tea dunking in low life! Dredd's mystery caller has more influence than I thought
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Pete Wells on 29 October, 2012, 09:13:18 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 29 October, 2012, 08:18:36 PM
I've just had a reread of the last few weeks, and I think I've figured out quite a bit of who's doing what and why, but one nagging question won't go away: [spoiler]Why did Dredd wait and let the list get transmitted? [/spoiler].

I wondered if Dredd finally twigged it was [spoiler]Jack Point's[/spoiler] voice and didn't want to mess up [spoiler]an undercover operation?[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Mikey on 29 October, 2012, 10:01:29 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 29 October, 2012, 03:47:54 PM
I'd love to see interviews with those concerned once the story has run its course.

Yup, I'll have a slice of that too.

Quote from: Pete Wells on 29 October, 2012, 09:13:18 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 29 October, 2012, 08:18:36 PM
I've just had a reread of the last few weeks, and I think I've figured out quite a bit of who's doing what and why, but one nagging question won't go away: [spoiler]Why did Dredd wait and let the list get transmitted? [/spoiler].

I wondered if Dredd finally twigged it was [spoiler]Jack Point's[/spoiler] voice and didn't want to mess up [spoiler]an undercover operation?[/spoiler]

Maybe...seems too straightforward for this type of beefy, three strip stir fry they've cooked up for us.

M.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Pete Wells on 29 October, 2012, 10:22:02 PM
Just re-reading stuff now, thanks to Steve Green.

I started with the Dredd story Prog 1482, Dominoes. This introduces us to Domino Blank One, the City Worshiping Black Ops assassin...

Next stop was the Dredd story in Meg 245, called Splashdown. In this strip, Dredd is on a mission in the Atlantic to get an alien aquatic lifeform from a nasty pirate fella. The pirate is based in International waters so Dredd is up against operatives from Brit-Cit. Unbeknown to Dredd, Domino Blank One is also part of his crew. The mission goes tits up and DBO is forced to reveal her presence to Dredd, much to his disgust and anger.

It seems the aquatic alien creature has killed and absorbed all the crew and Dredd and DBO have to take it down. The involvement of a Black Ops agent causes a bit of an international incident so MC-1 have to give the alien's body to Brit-Cit by way of apology. However, when killing the beast, Domino laced it with nano technology that would beam Brit-Cit's findings straight back to MC1.

This second story - particularly the way Domino contacts Dredd through his headset and the nasty man with the fish (i.e. pirate with the alien aquatic lifeform) make me think the mystery voice/biscuit dunker the other week was Domino.

Right, off to read Family Man now...
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Kerrin on 29 October, 2012, 10:23:23 PM
Quote from: Pete Wells on 29 October, 2012, 09:13:18 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 29 October, 2012, 08:18:36 PM
I've just had a reread of the last few weeks, and I think I've figured out quite a bit of who's doing what and why, but one nagging question won't go away: [spoiler]Why did Dredd wait and let the list get transmitted? [/spoiler].

I wondered if Dredd finally twigged it was [spoiler]Jack Point's[/spoiler] voice and didn't want to mess up [spoiler]an undercover operation?[/spoiler]

I'm thinking Dredd was [spoiler]in on the switch that the female Judge (forgotten the name and my brother's got the relevant prog) pulled with the statues[/spoiler] and it's a classic case of [spoiler]disinformation[/spoiler].

And, I thought as the whole subsection is titled [spoiler]SPOILERS[/spoiler] we didn't bother [spoiler]spoiler tagging[/spoiler] stuff in the prog thread. I almost certainly [spoiler]missed[/spoiler] something somewhere at some point so I'll [spoiler]play along[/spoiler] anyway.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Colin YNWA on 30 October, 2012, 08:27:58 AM
Yeah at this point I suspect there's a hundred different permutations, but I reckon they'll be bluff and double bluff before we're done. Personally I reckon[spoiler] Dredd and Point are in on all this together to try to clear Point to get inside or some such[/spoiler]... though how that squares with the killing of the chief Wally I'm not sure... Good fun guessing though
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Proudhuff on 30 October, 2012, 11:09:49 AM
Quote from: The Enigmatic Dr X on 29 October, 2012, 08:21:33 PM
Just noticed the tea dunking in low life! Dredd's mystery caller has more influence than I thought

and Bourbon Cream, flying ducks and smiles!!
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Proudhuff on 30 October, 2012, 11:11:16 AM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 29 October, 2012, 08:18:36 PM
I've just had a reread of the last few weeks, and I think I've figured out quite a bit of who's doing what and why, but one nagging question won't go away: [spoiler]Why did Dredd wait and let the list get transmitted? [/spoiler].

The [spoiler]Teleporter[/spoiler] he visited may be the key?
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 30 October, 2012, 11:22:30 AM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 29 October, 2012, 08:18:36 PM
I've just had a reread of the last few weeks, and I think I've figured out quite a bit of who's doing what and why, but one nagging question won't go away: [spoiler]Why did Dredd wait and let the list get transmitted? [/spoiler].

It's all to do with [spoiler]the 'off-camera' chat he had with biscuit dunker[/spoiler] a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Pioneer on 30 October, 2012, 11:41:00 AM
Didn't Miss Ann Thropé switch the statues though, meaning the chip Jack sold and which was sent to Overdrive wasn't the genuine article?

Perhaps Dredd is in on this?

(Sorry about lack of spoiler tags, no function on Tapatalk)
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: JamesC on 30 October, 2012, 02:07:43 PM
Am I the only person who doesn't know who Gavin Leahy is?
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Gavin_Leahy_Block on 30 October, 2012, 02:18:15 PM
Quote from: JamesC on 30 October, 2012, 02:07:43 PM
Am I the only person who doesn't know who Gavin Leahy is?

Probably not.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Pioneer on 30 October, 2012, 02:18:20 PM
Nope.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Dandontdare on 30 October, 2012, 02:39:09 PM
The tale of how Pete Wells was pipped in the auction to have a block in the prog acn be found here: http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,34196.msg665312.html#msg665312 (http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,34196.msg665312.html#msg665312) and here: http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,35598.30.html (http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,35598.30.html)
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: DrJomster on 30 October, 2012, 09:24:10 PM
I read Dredd last night and was left thinking "Ok.... Why all the love for 1807? I mean it's good and everything so far but people are really hyped about this..."

Finished the rest of the prog tonight...

Awesome.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: alphadogau on 31 October, 2012, 01:34:39 AM
Dredd woolgathering again ?
Teleport static on the radio? ... hmm
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: oshii on 31 October, 2012, 10:49:32 AM
Another thing, if it was deliberate planning to have a story concerning a list of undercover agents stolen in the same week as Skyfall is released with a similar conceit, than that's rather bloody cunning as well

And if it isn't deliberate, then they should certainly claim that it was.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Trout on 31 October, 2012, 10:53:00 AM
Or they could just not spoil Skyfall.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 31 October, 2012, 10:58:52 AM
Quote from: Trout on 31 October, 2012, 10:53:00 AM
Or they could just not spoil Skyfall.

That bit's kind of in the trailer...

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Trout on 31 October, 2012, 11:13:13 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 31 October, 2012, 10:58:52 AM
Quote from: Trout on 31 October, 2012, 10:53:00 AM
Or they could just not spoil Skyfall.

That bit's kind of in the trailer...

Cheers

Jim

Ah, OK. I've been avoiding anything to do with it.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Proudhuff on 31 October, 2012, 11:15:29 AM
Quote from: Trout on 31 October, 2012, 11:13:13 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 31 October, 2012, 10:58:52 AM
Quote from: Trout on 31 October, 2012, 10:53:00 AM
Or they could just not spoil Skyfall.

That bit's kind of in the trailer...

Cheers

Jim

Ah, OK. I've been avoiding anything to do with it.

[spoiler]James Bond and M are in it[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: a chosen rider on 31 October, 2012, 11:53:53 AM
Cover - Now that's a great, striking cover.  (Although I did briefly see it as a head with MODOK arms and now it's really hard to un-see that.  Sorry)

Dredd - Roffman!  So glad to see he made it.  And, "The man's got a mind like a clenched fist," is a brilliant line.  I always forget to praise the art when it's Henry Flint, because, y'know, it's Henry Flint, doing this thing.  But yes.  Awesome.  And Al Ewing pulls the Wagner-esque trick of making me think I must have reached the last page when there are still two more to go.  High praise indeed, sir.

Simping Detective - Great, incredibly clever opening.  [spoiler]Despite the drastic change in art styles, the shift is so seamless that I was actually disconcerted when the story started following Point instead of Dredd.[/spoiler]  The "ohhhstommit'sDredd" made me snicker.  I also kind of like the symbolism of Point teaming up with his perp against Dredd.  It draws a nice clear line between Point as a protagonist and Dirty Frank, who is Judge through and through despite the mental instability.  This is defintely the best episode of Simping yet, and either Coleby's art's getting steadily better or it's grown on me a lot.

Low Life - Everything about this is fabulous.  "Both mein Gott and blimey!"  Bwahahahaha.  And D'Israeli's art seriously is getting better every time - how is that even possible?  And the moment when [spoiler]it all ties in[/spoiler] - genius.  Amazing stuff.

[spoiler]So.  Now we know we've actually seen our mysterious biscuit-dunker in the first part of Low Life.  Any theories on his identity?  Also, does the fact that this is a crossover mean there's a chance of seeing DeMarco appear in the main Dredd strip?  Please make it so, Mr Ewing![/spoiler]

ABC Warriors - Unfortunately for this strip, it was always going to be a let-down after that lot, and the awkwardly photoshopped White House in the first panel doesn't help.  I'm not one of the people who hates Langley's digital stuff, but I do think it makes a clumsy juxtaposition with the rest of the artwork here.  That's become my feeling about ABC Warriors all over, really: entertaining enough despite the obvious clumsy bits.

Brass Sun - Starts out a bit of a talky instalment, so it's good to see some action get going.  Lovely art continues lovely.  Not much else to say!

Well, that was incredibly clever.  Dreddworld stuff overshadows everything else in the prog, not just because of the spoilery clever thing, but also because all three strips are on fire individually.  Top stuff!
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 31 October, 2012, 12:03:47 PM
Trout, I'm really not having a go at you- you're a splendid chap and I like you very much indeed. But it drives me absolutely NUTS when people complain about "spoilers" to things that bear absolutely NO RELEVANCE to the subject of a message board. Are we supposed to never mention anything about anything lest we accidentally "spoil" this unobtainable state of innocence that seems to be the only way some people think they can enjoy a film/ book/ comic/ whatever? I can sort-of understand it if we were "spoiling" something 2000AD related- but James Bond is - in my opinion- a terrible crock of old arse, that has nothing to do with anything here, as much relevance as a poor football result, a nil-nil draw say,  on a drizzly Saturday afternoon. If I wanted to reveal the entire plot as part of a gag, I'd not care one jot. If you actively take part in social discourse, you must expect to be "spoiled" about some things you'd rather not be. This isn't the seventies- the biggest threat to that innocence isn't overhearing someone give away a plot point in a shop, it's logging on to the Internet in the morning.

The bottom line is it DOESN'T MATTER if you know everything about a film going in. You'll enjoy it anyway, if it's any good. And the next time you watch it, you'll know it all in advance. I've seen people actually FALL OUT over perceived spoilers, and it drives me to the edge of madness. Bond, being absolutely THE most predictable film franchise in history - even more so than the Friday The Thirteenths, which are famously "all the bloody same"- is spoiler-proof in perpetuity.

But what do I know? You'd no more get me to pay money to see Sky Fall than willingly remove my own genitalia with a sharp spoon.

On the subject of the prog- am I missing something? How is Low Life tied-in?

SBT
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 31 October, 2012, 12:40:11 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 31 October, 2012, 12:03:47 PM
On the subject of the prog- am I missing something? How is Low Life tied-in?

[spoiler]The data chip that was stolen by Folger (maybe on the orders of Bachmann) that Dredd's now pursuing and was hidden in the statue, (and maybe switched by Anne Thrope) and was given by Point to the buyer, was the one transmitted to Mister Overdrive on the moon.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 31 October, 2012, 12:46:43 PM
Cover: Langley recycle's his pre-chaos day Dredd cover from last year, this time wither Hammerstein on show. I love it.

Dredd: IS this PSI chick Janus? Why pull her out of the word work after so long? Why is she working with Batchman? Why is she crying on the last page? How does this all tie in with [spoiler]The Badge Priest and Ninja Black Op's personel?[/spoiler] Now I say that last question out loud, it make's sense. Kinda.
Flint is on fire, look at that law master! And Batchman has a pony tail! Yes that kinda surprised me, I thought the Hitler quiff was a design choice.
The transfer was seemless [spoiler]From Dredd to Point[/spoiler] and that get's extra mark's in my book!
And with that, onto...

Simping Detective: Coleby really is shit hot isn't he? This is prity much following on from [spoiler]Dredd[/spoiler] and the transition is well handled, indeed I only noticed when Point jumped the window.
"Ohstommit'sDredd" Is gonna be a long term quote for me. Had me in stitches.
Great art work, great carry on, loving this very much.....but poor Larf!

Low Life: Don't see how this is fitting in....But "EAT THIS BOARD MEMBER!" so, 10/10.

ABC's: Was never going to live up to the previous three strip's. The art is still nice, and Mill's CAN write good action. This series just isn't gelling with me. I don't hate the ABC's I just don't understand how they survived past Black Hole, a master piece in it's own right and should have been left there.

Brass Sun: Just fucking epic. Like Tolkien but in space!

Top thrill: The Trilogy. Can't be argued there.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 31 October, 2012, 01:05:46 PM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 31 October, 2012, 12:46:43 PM
Low Life: Don't see how this is fitting in....

I literally just posted how.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: strontium71 on 31 October, 2012, 01:25:23 PM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 31 October, 2012, 12:46:43 PM
Cover: Langley recycle's his pre-chaos day Dredd cover from last year, this time wither Hammerstein on show. I love it.

Dredd: IS this PSI chick Janus? Why pull her out of the word work after so long? Why is she working with Batchman? Why is she crying on the last page? How does this all tie in with [spoiler]The Badge Priest and Ninja Black Op's personel?[/spoiler] Now I say that last question out loud, it make's sense. Kinda.
Flint is on fire, look at that law master! And Batchman has a pony tail! Yes that kinda surprised me, I thought the Hitler quiff was a design choice.
The transfer was seemless [spoiler]From Dredd to Point[/spoiler] and that get's extra mark's in my book!
And with that, onto...

Simping Detective: Coleby really is shit hot isn't he? This is prity much following on from [spoiler]Dredd[/spoiler] and the transition is well handled, indeed I only noticed when Point jumped the window.
"Ohstommit'sDredd" Is gonna be a long term quote for me. Had me in stitches.
Great art work, great carry on, loving this very much.....but poor Larf!

Low Life: Don't see how this is fitting in....But "EAT THIS BOARD MEMBER!" so, 10/10.

ABC's: Was never going to live up to the previous three strip's. The art is still nice, and Mill's CAN write good action. This series just isn't gelling with me. I don't hate the ABC's I just don't understand how they survived past Black Hole, a master piece in it's own right and should have been left there.

Brass Sun: Just fucking epic. Like Tolkien but in space!

Top thrill: The Trilogy. Can't be argued there.

I thought the PSI was bleeding from her eyes as she was using her powers?
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Proudhuff on 31 October, 2012, 01:32:08 PM
yeah, the Broomcupboard witch is pushing her to her limits.

SBT you cannot be serious?  :o
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Gavin_Leahy_Block on 31 October, 2012, 01:51:25 PM
Thanks everyone, but I think the first page of Simping Detective was even more exciting then seeing my name on a tower block.

[spoiler]I would love to see an interview with the writers and artists to see how they came up with the idea for this and how late nights this crossover caused. [/spoiler]

[spoiler]So, is anyone else think that the Prog 1812 special will be a crossover between Dredd, Simping Detective, Low Life?[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 31 October, 2012, 01:57:04 PM
Proudhuff: what, about not seeing how it fits in? No, i am- and even with dark jimbo's kind explanation im still not getting it! Mind you im a ways away from the prog at the moment, so given a reread im sure i'll get it. If you meant about spoilers and bond- heh, just having a rant! Pay me no heed. My wife has returned with my repeat prescription of codeine and coffee so im not in so much pain now, so nowhere near as grumpy. Bond sucks though.

I will review the prog after halloween. Initial response: oh my snekking grudding dokk. Minor disappointment at lack of halloween cover or seasonal tie-in story, leading to greater malaise and sadness about the lack of winter specials and tharg-pumpkin covers. Other than that, on the back of a breakfast unrushed 'day off work cos of halloween' reading- just bloody wonderful.

SBT
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 31 October, 2012, 03:32:43 PM
Quote from: Gavin_Leahy_Block on 31 October, 2012, 01:51:25 PM
[spoiler]So, is anyone else think that the Prog 1812 special will be a crossover between Dredd, Simping Detective, Low Life?[/spoiler]
This. It wouldn't surprise me. Really quite excited now.  :D

Oh, Dark Jimbo. Your response was posted while I was in the proces of writing my opinions. Thank's for the clarification.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Proudhuff on 31 October, 2012, 03:37:31 PM
ah, just surprised the whole simp/frank/dredd link up never jumped out at you given your attention too prog detail normally, but I can see how Halloween will be the megaday in your hoose, once its all over you'll thank Tharg for the TPO!

"Both mein Gott and blimey!"  indeed.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 31 October, 2012, 05:37:25 PM
WOW!!What more can I add  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: but that was soooooo coool  :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

Congradulations to ALL involved never seen anything quite like it -Kudos.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 31 October, 2012, 05:47:32 PM
The best thing about all this - the really very best thing - is that is was done for no particular reason. No anniversary prog or momentous issue number, no 'everything you know will change' headline grabber, not even the climax to the respective stories.

Just done 'because' - and for a sheer love of the craft. Tooth is tops.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Steve Green on 31 October, 2012, 06:07:46 PM
Yep, was even better because it came out of nowhere, but looking back you can see hints.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Spikes on 31 October, 2012, 08:05:07 PM
Well - how's about that then!
Caught this thread from a distance, so i knew summat was up, so after last weeks prog (top!), i was doubley looking forward to this one.
I did think, last week, that it was odd that the prog had 3 Dredd-world stories in it, but i'd never have thought they would [spoiler]link up like this. After reading, and then re-reading Dredd i went back to this thread, then realised that Simp, and Low Life were joined to Dredd as well, so had to shoot off again before i got too spoilered! [/spoiler]
So re-reading back progs it is then, though i havent got all the stories/progs i might need to hopefully get a grasp on it all,  :(

But what a brilliant read. And a week until my next fix! Gah!

Brass Sun is just simply fantastic - even exposure to [spoiler]triple-based thrillpower[/spoiler] cant take anything away from it, though ABCwarriors, like last week, is slightly lost amongst all the greatness.
And, a moment for pause, Tharg acknowledges that Dredd (the film) didnt do as well as hoped.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: mR:sTaG on 31 October, 2012, 09:53:30 PM
A rare post from me just to simply say: Incredible.

"And lo, even great white sharks shall weep"
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 31 October, 2012, 10:26:49 PM
Just noticed what Roffman's reading material is 'Your new Spincter and you'  :lol: :lol: :lol:

God I love 2000AD
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 31 October, 2012, 10:28:04 PM
PS What the fuck is he watching on the screeen  :o :o :lol:
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: M.I.K. on 01 November, 2012, 12:20:26 AM
I knew.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: M.I.K. on 01 November, 2012, 03:01:17 AM
Thinking about it, I might have figured it out 'cos this blog post (http://lewstringer.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/the-day-tom-thug-met-thundercap.html) was still fresh in my mind.

Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: staticgirl on 01 November, 2012, 10:08:17 AM
I took the comic out to read whilst I was waiting for the music to start at the Neffs gig last night. I was kinda hoping someone would ask me what this cool looking comic I was looking at was but I soon forgot about the outside world.

I laughed out loud when I read the title of the book Hoffman was reading.

Then I gasped and swore when the rest started twigging. And I said 'wow' at Disraeli's lovely splash page.

What an audacious, super clever experiment in storytelling! 2000ad deserves all the kudos it can handle for this.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Proudhuff on 01 November, 2012, 10:11:17 AM
Has any Bloggers/comic media picked up on this weeks thrill powered cross over?
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: zombemybabynow on 01 November, 2012, 11:22:55 AM
FUKK A - THE X3 CROSSOVER WAS MAGNIFICENT
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 01 November, 2012, 12:25:51 PM
Quote from: Proudhuff on 01 November, 2012, 10:11:17 AM
Has any Bloggers/comic media picked up on this weeks thrill powered cross over?
Not from what I cant tell. But surely this isn't just gonna end here. We still need to find out who the Alan Bennett Judge is. And what the bloody duck's are all about. Cream Cracker under the Settie anyone? Let's hope they don't  tie The History Boy's in in some way. College work and 2000AD should not mix for me.
But as someone has already pointed out, there's a prog long Dredd on the horizon (1812?), so providing it'll still be The Cold Deck, can we expect a meeting between Dredd, Frank and Point?
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Dodsy on 01 November, 2012, 12:57:17 PM
Did this Prog remind anyone else of all the American style comics where it's like read Batman 'A', now you have to read Superman 'B' then Robin 'C' before coming back and reading Batman 'B' otherwise the story in the one comic you read won't make sence but all the issues were in one comic and it was just brilliant?
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 01 November, 2012, 01:33:11 PM
I hadn't seen this thread, and got my copy last night.  My god!  Genius!! 

It took me a few seconds to twig what was going on!  I had to go back to the first story, then start reading the second story, to be sure what I was seeing was right.  Then, just when I'd gotten over how awesome that was, I read the Harry story and did another double-take!!  I wasn't expecting the first bit, then was awestruck when I'd realised all three linked.

Wow!  Brilliant!  Simply brilliant!
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Goaty on 01 November, 2012, 02:03:10 PM
Was amazing to see the Prog 1807 out on ClickWheel today and WHAT A PROG!!!

So amazing and brilliant twist!
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: TordelBack on 01 November, 2012, 02:18:39 PM
Boys oh boys, the Gang of Three are some quare shmairt buggers.  That was superb, and I'm very glad I stayed spoiler-free. I really hope Carroll and Rennie get a chance to throw something in to the mix down the road, especially as Rennie's L'il Kazan kicked all this off.

As to the plot, presumably Jack and Dirty have both been thoroughly mind-fecked by the BDM so that they can't reveal what they're up to Bachman's pet psi.  Of course in Frank's case that may not have been strictly necessary.  Nice touch using the teleporters from City of the Damned too - but where was Joe off to, eh? 

And holy hell, the giant green globes that Betelgeusian must have to have kept that one under his beanie.  Noi 'how to follow The Cold Deck crossover' charts for this alien editor!

Anyway:

"A new life awaits you in the Offworld Colonies!"

Oh, and ABC Warriors and Brass Sun were excellent too.  I confess I was a bit spent by the time I got there, the old refractory period is definitely getting longer as the years go by.

Absolutely top cover too.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Fisticuffs on 01 November, 2012, 02:38:05 PM
Sorry, BDM?
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Richmond Clements on 01 November, 2012, 02:45:59 PM
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 01 November, 2012, 02:38:05 PM
Sorry, BDM?
Biscuit Dunking Man.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Dandontdare on 01 November, 2012, 03:20:19 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 01 November, 2012, 02:18:39 PM
Nice touch using the teleporters from City of the Damned too - but where was Joe off to, eh? 

He was off to sector 13 to check out the lead on Point as they only had a few hours before bachmann had to be notified. I got the impression that teleporters had become pretty commonplace by now, especially within Justice Dept. I can't recall if we are told at the end of the story about public teleporters (when Dredd and a perp get kidnapped) whether the public network was discontinued, but the current problem is post DoC.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: TordelBack on 01 November, 2012, 03:28:23 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 01 November, 2012, 03:20:19 PM
He was off to sector 13 to check out the lead on Point as they only had a few hours before bachmann had to be notified.

I know, but all a bit convenient wasn't it?  Dredd's always in a hurry, but he doesn't usually beam about the place, and then there's that useful radio interference... I reckon he made a secret stop on the way to Angeltown.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 01 November, 2012, 03:32:46 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 01 November, 2012, 03:28:23 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 01 November, 2012, 03:20:19 PM
He was off to sector 13 to check out the lead on Point as they only had a few hours before bachmann had to be notified.

I know, but all a bit convenient wasn't it?  Dredd's always in a hurry, but he doesn't usually beam about the place, and then there's that useful radio interference... I reckon he made a secret stop on the way to Angeltown.
This. Anderson finely coming into play?
This is all going very big I for see....'no inuendo intendid'
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Richmond Clements on 01 November, 2012, 03:33:47 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 01 November, 2012, 03:28:23 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 01 November, 2012, 03:20:19 PM
He was off to sector 13 to check out the lead on Point as they only had a few hours before bachmann had to be notified.

I know, but all a bit convenient wasn't it?  Dredd's always in a hurry, but he doesn't usually beam about the place, and then there's that useful radio interference... I reckon he made a secret stop on the way to Angeltown.

That's what I thought, too. To the moon, for example..?
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 01 November, 2012, 03:34:36 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 01 November, 2012, 03:28:23 PM
I know, but all a bit convenient wasn't it?  Dredd's always in a hurry, but he doesn't usually beam about the place, and then there's that useful radio interference... I reckon he made a secret stop on the way to Angeltown.

Yeah. There's no way these lads dropped in stuff like the ducks to make us feel stupid for not seeing this coming, and then leave a loose end flapping to be explained away by convenience, IMO.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Dandontdare on 01 November, 2012, 03:44:43 PM
oooh, good points I just took that at face value.

I suppose 'porting around would be quite common practice, even if not mentioned, as we sometimes forget just how big MC1 is, so when Dredd gets a call to see the chief Judge, he never says, "Okay, tell her I'll be there tomorrow morning" as he bikes several hundred miles to sector 1!
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Goaty on 01 November, 2012, 03:47:25 PM
Congratulations Gavin Leahy for Block!

Still wish for Goaty Block OR Judge Goaty!  :(
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Fisticuffs on 01 November, 2012, 03:50:34 PM
Goaty, where does the image in your signature come from?
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Goaty on 01 November, 2012, 03:55:55 PM
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 01 November, 2012, 03:50:34 PM
Goaty, where does the image in your signature come from?

Judge Dredd- Killer Elite in Meg 329 Holy Terrors.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: elspurioso on 01 November, 2012, 06:09:19 PM
QuoteThe best thing about all this - the really very best thing - is that is was done for no particular reason.

As your three loyal script-droids said in a recently-conducted interview about all this (behind-the-scenesery is coming - keep an eye out), We Got Drunk And Thought It Would Be Funny.

The we sobered up and realised how much hard work it'd be, and the funniness went away. So we got drunk again.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: W. R. Logan on 01 November, 2012, 11:47:13 PM
I completely missed the link but then I've only been reading Dredd for the last few weeks and then just piling the Progs up next to the bed.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Colin YNWA on 02 November, 2012, 06:21:46 AM
Quote from: elspurioso on 01 November, 2012, 06:09:19 PM

As your three loyal script-droids said in a recently-conducted interview about all this (behind-the-scenesery is coming - keep an eye out), We Got Drunk And Thought It Would Be Funny.


Very much looking forward to that one. Congratulations to all for such a magnificent and hopefully not too horrible job.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: NapalmKev on 02 November, 2012, 07:30:23 AM
Fantastic Prog!!! Very well done to all concerned!!!

Cheers  :)
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: TordelBack on 02 November, 2012, 07:46:23 AM
Quote from: elspurioso on 01 November, 2012, 06:09:19 PMWe Got Drunk And Thought It Would Be Funny.

Alcohol.  Is there nothing it can't do?
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 02 November, 2012, 08:23:32 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 02 November, 2012, 07:46:23 AM
Quote from: elspurioso on 01 November, 2012, 06:09:19 PMWe Got Drunk And Thought It Would Be Funny.

Alcohol.  Is there nothing it can't do?
Get you pregers by itself?

Quit seriouesly though, looking forward to how the collaberation woked on this one. It's far more clever than anything the big two could have thought of. :lol:
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Fisticuffs on 02 November, 2012, 08:23:41 AM
Quote from: elspurioso on 01 November, 2012, 06:09:19 PM
QuoteThe best thing about all this - the really very best thing - is that is was done for no particular reason.

As your three loyal script-droids said in a recently-conducted interview about all this (behind-the-scenesery is coming - keep an eye out), We Got Drunk And Thought It Would Be Funny.

The we sobered up and realised how much hard work it'd be, and the funniness went away. So we got drunk again.

Well a massive well done to all that were involved, thank you!  :) I've read 1807 more times than the last 4 progs put together.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Richmond Clements on 02 November, 2012, 08:31:16 AM
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 02 November, 2012, 08:23:41 AM
Quote from: elspurioso on 01 November, 2012, 06:09:19 PM
QuoteThe best thing about all this - the really very best thing - is that is was done for no particular reason.

As your three loyal script-droids said in a recently-conducted interview about all this (behind-the-scenesery is coming - keep an eye out), We Got Drunk And Thought It Would Be Funny.

The we sobered up and realised how much hard work it'd be, and the funniness went away. So we got drunk again.

Well a massive well done to all that were involved, thank you!  :) I've read 1807 more times than the last 4 progs put together.

Yeah, me too. I usually red once and delete - but I've read this one three times so far. It's a damned masterpiece.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: judge devs on 02 November, 2012, 08:51:09 AM
Quote from: staticgirl on 01 November, 2012, 10:08:17 AM
I took the comic out to read whilst I was waiting for the music to start at the Neffs gig last night. I was kinda hoping someone would ask me what this cool looking comic I was looking at was but I soon forgot about the outside world.

Had I realised this I'd have rushed in from O'Neills earlier then I did  ;)

I'd have been easy to spot I was wearing on of these:

http://www.plastichead.com/cat_images/large/PH7297.jpg

Good gig, but hate the say it Leeds the night before was better  ;)
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Mikey on 02 November, 2012, 09:00:53 AM
Quote from: elspurioso on 01 November, 2012, 06:09:19 PM
As your three loyal script-droids said in a recently-conducted interview about all this (behind-the-scenesery is coming - keep an eye out), We Got Drunk And Thought It Would Be Funny.

Hurray! I feel sorry for you lot though, you're going to have to keep the baubles coming or we'll collectivley loose the wool.

The whole thing reminds me of the discussion round these parts years ago about having a single tale told from the perspective of different Justice Divisions - it was agreed Tek and Med would be boring, so you can leave those out if you have plans.

M.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: mogzilla on 02 November, 2012, 11:40:22 PM
even though i peeked at the spoilers i was surprised and chuffed to bits how it seamlessly blended from the dredd to the simping detective stories brilliant prog.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Zarjazzer on 03 November, 2012, 10:12:25 AM
Prog of the century.Flinty's  Dredd roaring off on his lawmaster was a fantastic image and the stories dovetailing was still astounding even though I knew it was coming.No faves this week it was all incredible.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: judda fett on 03 November, 2012, 10:34:12 AM
Nowt new to add, 'kin amazing prog! I weep for anyone leaving it on the shelf at the minute.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Frank on 04 November, 2012, 12:14:46 AM
If Tharg's hawking IP's around Hollywood, the first volume of Brass Sun is the first thing he should be shoving under the nodes of idea-hungry execs. Teenage heroine, check; fantasy setting, check; fully realised worlds and a quest/revenge structure that lends itself to multiple installments of a series, check. Griffin Mill (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06Ht6-Cw0RI) would pitch it as Harry Potter meets The Hunger Games and The Wizard of Oz.

Stick a Jennifer or a Jessica in the lead role and Tharg will be snorting plastic packing chips off the tits of eager starlets in Bel-Air, while Tom Hanks tries to convince him he was born to play Johnny Alpha. 1807's Doom Patrol lamp-headed predators stalking through the cornfield made for a creepily cinematic image, and provided a great visual contrast with the mechanistic and snowbound environments of the previous episodes.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: maryanddavid on 04 November, 2012, 12:42:51 AM
Avoided this thread, great prog, seamless crossover(hell for the casfiles in 10 years!)

Brass Sun great, and Langleys art is just great. I do like his photoshoppery stuff, some of his Slaine is just brilliant and some not so good. His line art is great.

Perfect prog.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 04 November, 2012, 11:30:34 AM
Quote from: maryanddavid on 04 November, 2012, 12:42:51 AM
...great prog, seamless crossover (hell for the casfiles in 10 years!)

And yet part of the genuis on display here is not only the crossovers; but the fact that each strip works so well on its own. Dredd, Simp and LL in 1808 all follow seamlessly on from their respective episodes in 1807.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: karl on 07 November, 2012, 10:31:08 PM
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 02 November, 2012, 06:21:46 AM
Quote from: elspurioso on 01 November, 2012, 06:09:19 PM

As your three loyal script-droids said in a recently-conducted interview about all this (behind-the-scenesery is coming - keep an eye out), We Got Drunk And Thought It Would Be Funny.


Very much looking forward to that one. Congratulations to all for such a magnificent and hopefully not too horrible job.

Two-part interview coming later this month on CBR!
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Frank on 07 November, 2012, 10:58:28 PM
That D'Israeli two page spread of Lunar-2 is my favourite double page since Necropolis. It looks great digitally, but I had a squint at the print version the other day and it looks just as good on the oddly shiny and brittle paper they print the prog on these days too. Brooker's art is easily my favourite of all the strips running at the moment. The boy's come a long way since Fatal Charm.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Gavin_Leahy_Block on 10 November, 2012, 06:54:22 PM
(http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae182/grpleahy/DSCF1866-1.jpg)

The original page featuring the Gavin Leahy Block, sent to me earlier this week by Henry Flint.
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 10 November, 2012, 06:56:20 PM
Well done that Block owner ;)
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Frank on 10 November, 2012, 07:10:38 PM
And now I'm wishing the comic was still printed in black and white. Congratulations on both the namecheck and the acquisition of that page Gavin Leahy Block, but I can't help thinking Tharg's droids have hit on a great way to supplement their incomes. What's the betting the climax of The Cold Deck sees Judges Dredd and Jack ride into Fatboydale Block to arrest a villain called Ming? Can you imagine the bidding (block)war over that page?
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Gavin_Leahy_Block on 10 November, 2012, 07:22:44 PM
A bidding war over a block name. Ya, that would never happen. :/
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Spikes on 10 November, 2012, 07:51:06 PM
Quote from: Gavin_Leahy_Block on 10 November, 2012, 06:54:22 PM
The original page featuring the Gavin Leahy Block, sent to me earlier this week by Henry Flint.

Ahh, nice one. I did wonder if you'd get the chance to own this page.
Glorious Black 'n' white art from Mr Flint, congrats!


Quote from: sauchie on 10 November, 2012, 07:10:38 PM
What's the betting the climax of The Cold Deck sees Judges Dredd and Jack ride into Fatboydale Block to arrest a villain called Ming? Can you imagine the bidding (block)war over that page?

:lol:
Title: Re: Prog 1807 - We love Gavin Leahy!
Post by: Gavin_Leahy_Block on 10 November, 2012, 08:02:32 PM
Thanks, guys. I have only seen a few of Mr Flint pages, as I believe he doesn't sell them that often, but his work is incredible.
No offence intended to, Chris Blythe, but like Sauchie, I sometimes wish the comic was still printed in black and white. Which it isn't too far off at the moment.