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Title: Top 10 returns
Post by: Dan Kelly on 04 March, 2005, 08:01:01 PM
Looking at the preview site for May I notice that there is a new Top 10 hardback coming out from Messrs Moore and Ha.

I look a bit further and there are even some preview pages available - and they look gorgeous.

Dan

Link: The 49ers

Title: Re: Top 10 returns
Post by: Trout on 04 March, 2005, 08:03:00 PM
I'll be having that, then.

Thanks for the heads-up, Dank!
Title: Re: Top 10 returns
Post by: Devons Daddy on 04 March, 2005, 08:29:45 PM
ohhhhh yes.
a must have without a shadow of a doubt.
what happened to the smax collection trade? has that been released yet.

Title: Re: Top 10 returns
Post by: Trout on 04 March, 2005, 08:34:42 PM
The Smax trade is out, IIRC.

Amazon it.
Title: Re: Top 10 returns
Post by: Oddboy on 04 March, 2005, 08:43:22 PM
Smax is out in Hardback.

I'm waiting for the paperback to match the other ABComics collections I've got.
Meanwhile, I do have the monthly comic versions anyway.

So is this new Top Ten going to be monthly too? And Paperback eventually? And written by Alan Moore & his sock and not one of his cronies?
Title: Re: Top 10 returns
Post by: Dan Kelly on 04 March, 2005, 09:22:33 PM
Looks like it is a hardback full GN, so not a monthly.

I am sure that it will be a paperback at some point, but is going down the usual ABC route of hardcover first.

It's the only real complaint I have about ABC tbh...

Dan

Title: Re: Top 10 returns
Post by: Dunk! on 04 March, 2005, 10:10:40 PM
Blimey, that looks stunning.

Well worth the wait, though i wouldn't mind seeing the original series carry on for at least a while longer.

Title: Re: Top 10 returns
Post by: Art on 05 March, 2005, 12:36:00 AM
Wow. I'll be bagging that. Was this out as a series, and I missed it?
Title: Re: Top 10 returns
Post by: Trout on 05 March, 2005, 03:50:33 AM
No, Art, it's gone straight to overpriced hardback.

Not that I care. I'm buying it.

It looks chuffing amazing.

- Trout
Title: Re: Top 10 returns
Post by: Art on 05 March, 2005, 05:21:31 AM
(Of course, you realise they'll wiat just long enough so you think you'll had to buy it as hardback, and then release it as bloody softback anyway)
Title: Re: Top 10 returns
Post by: Devons Daddy on 05 March, 2005, 09:52:46 AM
they are like drug dealers arent they,

get you in on the small amounts,tempt you with the better stuff and the have you by the balls and only sell the best possible purest uncut and wonderfully packaged they possibley can.

i can give up anytime though.i can just say no.
its not a problem.
 
amazon you say?
Title: Re: Top 10 returns
Post by: Steamboy on 05 March, 2005, 10:27:34 AM
Gibber gibber drool, cant wait for the soft cover version.  Top 10 = Best Super Hero Comic EVER...
(well next to Zenith if it was collected anyway).

CU Krestel
Title: Re: Top 10 returns
Post by: Tweak72 on 05 March, 2005, 06:11:54 PM
feck soft cover im going for the hard asap as thats what i did with smax pass the tissues some one please?
Title: Re: Top 10 returns
Post by: DavidXBrunt on 05 March, 2005, 06:19:24 PM
You know I'm really looking forwards to this. I did read a rumour about who was working on Season Two of Ton Ten, but I can't for the life of me remember who was down as writer. I know Jerry Ordway was down as artist though. If that's the truth then it'd be a nice match and he'd make a decent stab at it, or my names not Quimby Mouse.
Title: Re: Top 10 returns
Post by: Trout on 05 March, 2005, 06:21:59 PM
Your name ought to be Quimby Mouse.

It would be a nice touch.
Title: Re: Top 10 returns
Post by: Tordelbach on 05 March, 2005, 08:18:26 PM
Hmm, appears to tell the *secret* secret origin of Wulf Sternhammer, a Precinct 10 cop lost in time...  

"Ja, Johnny Veird Eyes, but I vas not *born* der Viking - how else vere you thinking Wulf fought in three galactic vars?"

Can't wait for the '49ers. 'Top Ten' is an underrated masterpiece, and it's pretty obvious from Moore's interviews that he's genuinely chuffed with how it turned out.

It does lack the quasi-philisophical edge of Promethea, Swampie or From Hell, and the gritty visual games of Watchmen, Big Numbers or V, but it's deeply plotted, endlessly clever and very moving in places.  

The amazing achievement of creating utterly believable characters in such a bizarre world, frequently only defined as background figures or in a snatch of dialogue, is one of Moore's finest hours.  

Title: Re: Top 10 returns
Post by: IndigoPrime on 06 March, 2005, 05:04:33 PM
:: I can't for the life of me remember who was down as writer

Steve Moore, wasn't it?
Title: Re: Top 10 returns
Post by: DavidXBrunt on 06 March, 2005, 05:12:54 PM
Nunzio DeFillipis wsa the name I'd heard bandied around in connection to it, now that I think about it.
Title: Re: Top 10 returns
Post by: Trout on 07 March, 2005, 04:15:59 PM
Hooray for Quimby Mouse!
Title: Re: Top 10 returns
Post by: Steamboy on 08 March, 2005, 02:51:48 PM
Urk, hope its not DeFillips. His New Xmen Acadamy X for Marvel is one of the poorest X books I've ever read, so childish. still might do alright, looks like a hard one to f#@k up. Steve Moore now that would be interesting hasn't he worked on some of Alans prev creations?

CU Krestel
Title: Re: Top 10 returns
Post by: Jared Katooie on 08 March, 2005, 04:16:27 PM
Damn, I still havent got book 2. I'm willing to kill for it of course, but who should I kill? Noone has the bleedin' thing.
Title: Re: Top 10 returns
Post by: Quirkafleeg on 08 March, 2005, 05:49:05 PM
I 'spose there's no chance of them including the one-off story set in Top Ten's 'horror' district that was in a compilation that I've been too lazy to track down.
Title: Re: Top 10 returns
Post by: Trout on 08 March, 2005, 07:13:51 PM
I continue to be touched by Alan's support of Steve, who was - as is regularly mentioned in interviews - the man who originally helped and encouraged Alan (no relation) Moore into comics.

It's a sad fact that Steve Moore's work is never quite up to Alan's standards, but he continues to pop up in Moore-influenced books, like Tom Strong's Terrific Tales.

I would certainly have a glance at Top Ten by Steve Moore, but without too much hope. Sorry if that seems to be prejudging it a little.

On the other hand, Alan Moore protege Peter Hogan has done some nice things with the great man's characters. See The Many World of Tesla Strong for a bit of half-decent evidence.

Just IMO.

- Trout
Title: Re: Top 10 returns
Post by: Tordelbach on 08 March, 2005, 09:43:56 PM
Totally agree with his Satanic Fishiness on this one.

Hogan's 'Terra Obscura' is also great fun, arguably the best post-Moore run on ANY of A. Moore's characters/creations (this may be partly to do with the co-plotted credit, but hey).  Steve, however, despite clearly being a dear friend of Alan's with a decent back catalogue, and having a fair bit of inventive genius of his own, just isn't up to scratch when compared with the Affable One (well, who is?).    

Alan appears to be an almost unimaginably deeply loyal friend and colleague.  In the excellent "Extraordinary Works of..." book, he describes how he set up ABC mainly to create work for his artist friends after his previous line folded. He seems to have left DC partly over their treatment of Bissette/Totelben/Alcala as artists on Swamp Thing.  He seems to be intent on making his many collaborators as rich as Croesus from Movie options (Eddie C., Dave G., David L., Kevin O'N.) at his own considerable expense, and seems more than happy to hand over his strips to his artists and/or mates once he's done with them (Swamp Thing, Greyshirt, DR & Quinch, Skizz [although the latter two may not have been his choice, he never expresses annoyance]).

Unfortunately, this is a risky business.  Veitch's 'Greyshirt' mini-series was as good as if not better than the originals, but his Swampie suffered by comparsion.  Alan Davis' Dr & Quinch Problem Page and Jim Baikie's Skizz were more than a bit embarassing.  Steve's Tom Strong stuff is aimless and repetitive (sound familiar, Telguuth fans?), and is actually souring the brand,

I dread to think what post-Moore 'Top 10' would be like, but I know I won't be risking reading it.  They're Alan's mates, not mine.

 
Title: Re: Top 10 returns
Post by: therev on 09 March, 2005, 07:34:07 PM
Oooooooooooooooh I'm getting this.
Title: Re: Top 10 returns
Post by: Trout on 09 March, 2005, 07:41:40 PM
I'd forgotten Terra Obscura. How could I? It's great.

(Sorry to be pedantic, but the DR and Quinch problem page was by Jamie Delano.)

- Trout
Title: Re: Top 10 returns
Post by: Oddboy on 09 March, 2005, 08:56:42 PM
It was by Delano - but it was re-written by Alan Davis.
Title: Re: Top 10 returns
Post by: Tordelbach on 10 March, 2005, 01:45:57 PM
It was?  Shite, how did that get into my 'brain'. And what's this you say Oddboy?  Please explain.
Title: Re: Top 10 returns
Post by: Oddboy on 10 March, 2005, 08:45:38 PM
As I recall the story (probably from Bishop's TPO) - Delano wrote Agony Aunt letters & DR&Q's replies, and Alan Davis was supposed to do a couple of spot illustations for the page.

Alan, receiving the script, took it upon himself to scrap most of what Delano had written & turned it into a strip page based on the best bits.
Title: Re: Top 10 returns
Post by: Dan Kelly on 21 April, 2005, 11:10:16 PM
Thought this was worth a Necro Post.

Tucked away in the back pages of this weeks Ex-Machina is a trail for the afore-mentioned 49ers.

What's makes this worth the thread-revival, is that, ladies and gentlemen, we have a date.

The Hardcover should be reaching the shops on the 25th May this year.

Should be good.

Dan
Title: Re: Top 10 returns
Post by: Art on 21 April, 2005, 11:16:22 PM
But is it so mind-bendingly exciting that I won;t be able to wait for the softback?