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2000 AD => General => Topic started by: Dudley on 01 July, 2005, 09:31:48 PM

Title: Spreading the Wikiword
Post by: Dudley on 01 July, 2005, 09:31:48 PM
2000AD has a fine, fine page on Wikipedia.

However, the following 2000AD creators, all linked from the main page, currently do not have Wikipedia entries.

Brett Ewins
Cam Kennedy
Colin MacNeill
David Pugh
Dean Ormston
Frazer Irving
Greg Staples
Henry Flint
Ian Edginton
Jim Baikie
John Ridgeway
John Tomlinson
Kev Walker
Matt Smith
Mick Austin
Paul Marshall
Philip Bond
Robbie Morrison
Simon Harrison
Simon Jacob
SMS
Steve MacManus
Steve Parkhouse
Steve Yeowell
Tom Frame
Trevor Hairsine
Will Simpson

Fancy spreading the word and adding a few of them in?

Oh, and entries also needed for Skizz and Big Dave.

Link: Wikipedia 2000AD page

Title: Re: Spreading the Wikiword...
Post by: Funt Solo on 01 July, 2005, 09:45:29 PM
I wonder if "art-god" would be too short an entry for Steve Yeowell.
Title: Re: Spreading the Wikiword...
Post by: longmanshort on 01 July, 2005, 10:10:20 PM
SMS, alias Simon Short, is a Hampshire-born, Lancashire-based artist known for his award-winning covers for science-fiction magazine, Interzone, and for his work for British anthology magazine 2000AD.

Entering comics and illustration full time in 1987, he won a British Science Fiction Award in 1998 and a Ken Macintyre Award the following year, and was also nominated for a prestigious Eagle Award.

His work in Interzone has seen him regularly voted the readers' favourite artist and, by popular demand, did every picture in its 100th issue.

Other comics work includes: Oddmags, 2000AD, Arcane, Games Workshop, Marvel UK and US. Illustrations/covers include: Kerosina, Sundry graphics design work, Penguin, Games Workshop, Pan and Marvel UK.

Known for a more detailed style than other artists of his generation, he drew the ABC Warriors story The Black Hole for 2000AD, sharing the art duties with Simon Bisley. Sadly, this was just as the fad for fully-painted artwork was beginning to take hold - and Bisley was to be its poster child. His style of drawing robots as muscle-bound 'men of metal' overshadowed SMS's work, which was more in a traditional 'sci-fi' vein with exquiste backgrounds and futuristic designs. Despite a promise of further work, SMS never appeared in 2000AD again.

A Philosophy graduate, he spends his spare time being a dad, salvaging 'Brownfield Sites' from developers, organising community events, doing the Beyond Cyberdome competition (like the BBC's Robot Wars) and trying to find the time to actually draw stuff.
Title: Re: Spreading the Wikiword......
Post by: Art on 01 July, 2005, 10:30:03 PM
I've put that in under "SMS (comics)", as SMS is already taken. Also if anyone wanst to put in an entry for the current Tharg that should go under "Matt Smith (comics)".

Title: Re: Spreading the Wikiword......
Post by: Tordelbach on 01 July, 2005, 10:31:53 PM
Wait.  "Longman" Short.  Simon Short.  I think I feel a 'complete twat' moment coming on.
Title: Re: Spreading the Wikiword...
Post by: longmanshort on 01 July, 2005, 10:35:15 PM
Art: wiki's got him under S.M.S. in the 2000AD article ...

Tordelbach: Foolish boy!
Title: Re: Spreading the Wikiword......
Post by: Art on 01 July, 2005, 10:41:57 PM
Fixed
Title: Re: Spreading the Wikiword.........
Post by: Tu-plang on 01 July, 2005, 10:50:48 PM
I'm afraid I'm with Tordelbach of the 'utterly thick twat' front.

Wikipedia is my saviour... boredom takes hold?  Go to Wikipedia and lose yourself.
Title: Re: Spreading the Wikiword...........
Post by: Dudley on 01 July, 2005, 10:58:58 PM
Some knowledgeable comics geek god do a tom frame entry, please!
Title: Re: Spreading the Wikiword...........
Post by: Byron Virgo on 01 July, 2005, 11:04:14 PM
He used to colour the centrespreads and covers for 2000AD, and regularly collaborated with Peter Milligan on titles like Strange Days (which he coloured some of), Paradax, Johnny Nemo, Skin and Skreemer.

Apparently some people don't like his SFX now.
Title: Re: Spreading the Wikiword......
Post by: Tordelbach on 01 July, 2005, 11:15:42 PM
Recovering from my startling (to me) ignorance for a moment, I've just gotta air my fan credentials once and once only,  and then I'll go back to regarding "L"MS as just another mortal: the Hammerstein origin flashback in Black Hole Bypass is one of THE best sequences of artwork in 2000AD history ("Apple Pie For Men!"), and I've long thought the SMS unit is probably the most underappreciated droid Tharg ever sent to Mek Quake.  

Now to restore continuity, I'm just going to get Captain Antilles to give me a memory-wipe, and we can resume as normal...
Title: Re: Spreading the Wikiword.........
Post by: longmanshort on 01 July, 2005, 11:17:13 PM
I'm not actually SMS, y'know. My name's Mike ...
Title: Re: Spreading the Wikiword...........
Post by: Tordelbach on 01 July, 2005, 11:20:37 PM
Ah well, its back to the corner for me then... That pointy cap is making me bald, you know.
Title: Re: Spreading the Wikiword...........
Post by: longmanshort on 01 July, 2005, 11:31:55 PM
IN a world of computer fonts and font-creating programmes, the traditional art of the comic book letterer could be said to be redundant.
And while comic fans will remember, discuss and compare the work of writers and artists, the same could not really be said of letterers. They are the unsung heroes of comic books, their understated craft isn't just about adding in words - lettering can compliment and accentuate (or even ruin) a strip.
But with almost three decades of experience, Tom Frame is one of the few 'names' in lettering.
His dedicated work on 2000AD strip Judge Dredd for many years has seen him create his own, instantly recognisable style of lettering which has cropped up in many other comics, notably US title Hellblazer.
Originally doing all his work by hand, in 1997 he created his own font taken from scanned handwriting. He would type each block of text onto a page, print it out, then cut out each 'bubble', draw a line around the edge by hand and then stick it on the artwork - a cross between the old-fashioned way of lettering, and modern techniques.
Although his sound effects are often not to everyone's taste, he is still recognised as one of the, if not the, leading letterer in Britain's diminishing comics industry.
Despite anyone being able to letter their work, Frame was quoted in PC Format magazine in May 1997 as saying: "I'm not too worried. I wouldn't advise anyone to go into lettering, but I don't think it'll disappear just yet."
Title: Re: Spreading the Wikiword...........
Post by: longmanshort on 01 July, 2005, 11:38:40 PM
Actually, this instead:

IN a world of computer fonts and font-creating programmes, the traditional art of the comic book letterer could be said to be redundant.
And while comic fans will remember, discuss and compare the work of writers and artists, the same could not really be said of letterers. They are the unsung heroes of comic books, their understated craft isn't just about adding in words - lettering can compliment and accentuate (or even ruin) a strip.
But with almost three decades of experience, Tom Frame is one of the few 'names' in lettering.
And it was on 2000AD strip Judge Dredd that he forged his reputation.
He has created his own, instantly recognisable style of lettering which has cropped up in many other comics, notably US title Hellblazer.
Originally doing all his work by hand, in 1997 he created his own font taken from scanned handwriting. He would type each block of text onto a page, print it out, then cut out each 'bubble', draw a line around the edge by hand and then stick it on the artwork - a cross between the old-fashioned way of lettering, and modern techniques.
Although his sound effects are often not to everyone's taste, he is still recognised as one of the, if not the, leading letterer in Britain's diminishing comics industry.
Despite anyone being able to letter their work, Frame was quoted in PC Format magazine in May 1997 as saying: "I'm not too worried. I wouldn't advise anyone to go into lettering, but I don't think it'll disappear just yet."
Title: Re: Spreading the Wikiword...........
Post by: Art on 02 July, 2005, 12:03:35 AM
That's nicely written, but really it needs to be more "encyclopedic" in style.
Title: Re: Spreading the Wikiword...........
Post by: longmanshort on 02 July, 2005, 12:35:58 AM
Yeah, was kind hoping no-one would notice the lack of facts (i.e. my usual writing style!) because there's f*ck all about him on the net that I can find ...
Title: Re: Spreading the Wikiword...........
Post by: Art on 02 July, 2005, 12:40:40 AM
Ah, traditional journalistic values! I suppose you wrote it while drunk as well?
Title: Re: Spreading the Wikiword...........
Post by: longmanshort on 02 July, 2005, 12:47:43 AM
Not this time, but I was meant to be doing something else at the time, which is pretty much when I do my best work ;)
Title: Re: Spreading the Wikiword...
Post by: Large48 on 02 July, 2005, 12:57:39 AM
How about an entry for Simon Davis for his Sin/Dex stuff at least????
Title: Re: Spreading the Wikiword......
Post by: Floyd-the-k on 02 July, 2005, 07:46:48 PM
while you're there, check out my page for Frank Hardy (Australian communist novelist)
Title: Re: Spreading the Wikiword.........
Post by: Dudley on 05 July, 2005, 10:52:49 PM
So, just entries needed for Trevor Hairsine (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Trevor_Hairsine&action=edit), Greg Staples (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Greg_Staples&action=edit),  Chris Weston (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chris_Weston&action=edit), then.
Title: Re: Spreading the Wikiword...........
Post by: longmanshort on 05 July, 2005, 11:03:03 PM
I'll see if I can sort the Chris Weston one
Title: Re: Spreading the Wikiword...........
Post by: longmanshort on 05 July, 2005, 11:41:02 PM
Born into a military family in January, 1969 in Rinteln, Germany, Chris Weston spent his childhood moving from one country basking in the fading glow of the Empire to another.

On his official website's biography, he recalls what it was like without television as a child: "My primary source of entertainment? You guessed it: comics! British comics, at that! Lion, Valiant, Bullet, Victor , Hotspur, Buster, War Picture Library, Action.... us "army brats" read them all! And what's more we'd discuss them for hours; the characters, the stories and the art in particular."

He first encountered 2000AD, aged eight, while living in Cyprus during 1977. Two years later he returned to UK, but comics remained his great love. Then came an encounter that would change his life - a school chum introduced him to his dad, Don Lawrence. The celebrated artist gave Weston a year's apprenticeship, which secured him his first published work - a pin-up of Judge Dredd in 2000AD.

Later, 2000AD editor Alan McKenzie teamed him up with writer John Smith. The product was eventually the ten-part "Indigo Prime" story, "Killing Time" which pushed the boundaries of the weird as the characters battled Jack the Ripper aboard a time travelling train.

Weston's work in America began with on Swamp Thing during Mark Millar's time as scriptwriter. He has since gone on to be published in The Invisibles, Starman, JSA, Lucifer, and The Authority.

Weston's style became increasingly detailed and extravagant. His work on Killing Time demonstrated an eye for the absurd and the psychedlic, while later work showed a solid, detailed realism that would have given even Lawerence a run for his money,

However, two pieces of work which have raised his profile above that of your average artist have been The Filth and Ministry of Space. The former is Grant Morrison's debauched creator-owned series while the latter was a stirring "What if?" one-off series written by Warren Ellis which saw Weston's ever-improving eye for detail brought to glorious fruition in a tale that saw Britain winning the space race. An outstanding piece of work, Ministry of Space combined the writer's stunning imagination with Weston's love of technology and the exacting 1950s realism of his mentor.

Sadly for Weston and all comic fans, Don Lawrence died in 2003.

One of the greats of modern British comics, Chris Weston continues his success across the Atlantic, while also returning periodically to 2000AD to great acclaim.
Title: Re: Spreading the Wikiword...........
Post by: Eck on 06 July, 2005, 09:27:32 AM
Best. Website. Ever.
Title: Re: Spreading the Wikiword...........
Post by: Dunk! on 06 July, 2005, 03:26:37 PM
Really impressed by the Mike McMahon entry which gives a through and thoughtful view of his work and the dramatic evolution of his style within 2000ad's pages. Very good indeed.

Rufus? :)
Title: Re: Spreading the Wikiword...........
Post by: Dudley on 06 July, 2005, 11:19:00 PM
Just

Trevor Hairsine
Cam Kennedy
Greg Staples
Kev Walker


to go...
Title: Re: Spreading the Wikiword...........
Post by: Grant Goggans on 07 July, 2005, 02:22:40 AM
Looks like several other creators could use a little Wiki-magic:

Tom Carney
Nigel Kitching
Richard Elson
Mike White
John Cooper
Paul Neary
Steve Moore
Alan Langford
Colin MacNeil
Mike Collins
Brett Ewins
Cliff Robinson
Robin Smith
Barry Kitson
Will Simpson
Mick Austin
David Roach
Tony Luke
Russell Fox

Also, as you write an entry, adding this tag:

[[Category:2000 AD Creators|last name, first name]]

towards the bottom will ensure that the creator appears in this listing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:2000_AD_Creators

Working on this for the next few weeks should be fun!

--Grant
Title: Re: Spreading the Wikiword...........
Post by: Grant Goggans on 12 July, 2005, 01:18:31 AM
(Replying to myself, I'm so tacky...)

I did another round of small tweaks and improvements to the Wiki credits today, and began the very slow task of adding a Bibliography section to each creator with a page.  If anyone's able to fill in the non-Tooth material for any of the names, that would be excellent.

I'll get all the Tooth/Meg material added to the bibliographies over the next few weeks, along with Doctor Who Magazine strip credits.

I also added pages for Kelvin Gosnell and Simon Fraser today.  If anybody could do pages for Steve Yeowell, Steve Moore, John Higgins or Mick Austin, that would be wonderful!

--Grant
Title: Re: Spreading the Wikiword...........
Post by: Dudley on 12 July, 2005, 07:35:22 PM
Steves Moore & Yeowell done.

I don't know nearly enough about John Higgins or Mick Austin, sorry!
Title: Re: Spreading the Wikiword...........
Post by: Dudley on 12 July, 2005, 09:31:57 PM
Also replying to myself - but who said this wasn't a bit of a sad thread?

The number of 2000AD creators has gone up from 42 to 66 - good work peeps!

I now claim to have added the most obscure 2000AD creator droid - can you spot them/can you create a page for anyone even more obscure?
Title: Re: Spreading the Wikiword...........
Post by: Dudley on 19 January, 2006, 08:43:00 AM
Still need:

- Greg Staples
Richard Elson
Colin MacNeil
Brett Ewins
Cliff Robinson
Robin Smith
Barry Kitson
Will Simpson
Mick Austin

Get 3 in and we'll have made the ton!

Link: Biographies of 97 2000AD creators

Title: Re: Spreading the Wikiword...........
Post by: I, Cosh on 19 January, 2006, 09:49:10 PM
'ere. What's all this then. Hours of happy surfing for all.

However, I detect a flaw in your list.

The original, way up at the top, had Simon Harrison on it, but the latest one doesn't, even though he's still not on the Wiki. He's been omitted from the omission list!

I don't know anything about the lad other than that I love his mental style, but surely somebody does?

Sorry, but I don't know anything about the rest of that lot either.
Title: Re: Spreading the Wikiword...........
Post by: Noisybast on 19 January, 2006, 10:43:25 PM
If it helps, I've managed to shoehorn a Sl?ine reference into the Elric of Melnibon? page...

Link: Yoink!

Title: Re: Spreading the Wikiword...........
Post by: Dudley on 20 January, 2006, 09:57:17 PM
Heh.  That's nothing - I've still got Tony Blair's main page linking to David Bishop.