Just finished watching Tommy, the rock opera by the Who (currently on Netflix). I could not make head nor tail of it. Literally, I don't understand the plot, the themes, what I'm supposed to make of it, anything? I feel it's a beloved UK cult classic and as such am curious to know - is this film actually any good? Is it well liked? Is it just the music (which is fine but not entirely my cup of tea). I generally love Ken Russell and this has enough of his manic energy that I won't say I was bored by the film, but I was totally bemused.
I was born in 1978 so maybe I'm just too young to tune into whatever frequency it operates on. But it was a big enough deal that I reocnigsed the reference in that one Heavy Metal Dredd story where a pinball playing deaf/dumb/blind kid gets his ehad blown off. Although sadly that didn't happen in the film - instead he got cured and became Jesus??
I watched it when I was very young - and never again. And, I expect, never will again.
It's a cultural touchstone. You check it off the list and move on.
Vibes, its all about pure vibes. 'Sense' should be checked out at the door.
TOMMY rocks.
This is movie isn't made to be understood. But wait 'til you see Lisztomania. Probably the most deranged, disgusting film ever. But that's why I love Russell as filmmaker. I don't have to like films, but I like his audacity as filmmaker.
Quote from: Hawkmumbler on 03 November, 2021, 12:06:59 PM
Vibes, its all about pure vibes.
Plus, Ann Margaret covered in baked beans. It's searing critique of consumerism. Or something. ;-)
So it's not just me then!
Am super exicted to see Lizstomania one day, have heard (and even seen snippets of) good things.
Tommy was one of the first albums I had, so I knew the story before I saw the film and absolutely love both.
Basically, young Tommy's dad is "killed" in the war, and he goes deaf dumb and blind from the trauma. His step dad (Ollie Reed) is a bastard. Uncle Ernie abuses him, Cousin Kevin bullies him and Reed takes him to the Acid Queen to see if drugs will help. Reed is frustrated with the boy who stares at himself in the mirror all day. When his dad miraculously turns up alive, Reed kills him (this bit isn't referenced in the album lyrics, just the film). Tommy's unique talent is to play pinball by instinct, beating Elton John's Pinball Wizard. He becomes a cult figure, which his family try to cash in on with tours and holiday camps. In a fit of anger, Reed smashes Tommy's mirror causing him to snap out of his afflictions with the final "I'm free" song, and he becomes even more of a messiah-like figure. His followers riot tearing down the camp.
I don't often have problems with comprehension but often struggle with interpretation. Just watched GRAND BUDAPEST HOTEL and while fun and very, very pretty, I struggled with themes.
This is nice and short: The Grand Budapest Hotel: Thematic & Visual Analysis (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS0sIMWXdks)
Many thanks, DDD, that's a great summary fo what was actually goin on. Somehow I totally missed the theme about Tommy starting at himself in mirrors all the time. So it's a thinly-veiled metaphor for a rock star with Daddy issues who thinks he might just be the Messiah, but really all he wants is to be left alone?
Compare and contrast with (the film version of) Pink Floyd's The Wall (featuring a rock star whose father died in the war and lets power go to their head when everybody starts to worship them on stage).
Tommy definitely has to rank as one of the most absurd films ever made. I remember watching it when it came on TV with my jaw agape, probably going "What? What? What??"
Utterly ridiculous on every level, and just when you think it's reached a peak of ludicrosity, bloody Jack Nicholson turns up!
I have got a strange urge to watch it again after all these years just to see if it's as bad as I remember.
I never quite figured out where the baked beans scene fits in though...
Quote from: Goosegash on 04 November, 2021, 12:13:57 PM... just when you think it's reached a peak of ludicrosity, bloody Jack Nicholson turns up!
Holy crap, I'd totally forgotten that he's in it
This lyrics website allows user to add comments about a song's meaning - often they're trite or plain wrong, but the Tommy ones seem pretty good - fully explains what's behind each song:
https://genius.com/albums/The-who/Tommy (https://genius.com/albums/The-who/Tommy)
Quote from: Dandontdare on 03 November, 2021, 06:40:39 PM
Tommy was one of the first albums I had, so I knew the story before I saw the film and absolutely love both.
Basically, young Tommy's dad is "killed" in the war, and he goes deaf dumb and blind from the trauma. His step dad (Ollie Reed) is a bastard. Uncle Ernie abuses him, Cousin Kevin bullies him and Reed takes him to the Acid Queen to see if drugs will help. Reed is frustrated with the boy who stares at himself in the mirror all day. When his dad miraculously turns up alive, Reed kills him (this bit isn't referenced in the album lyrics, just the film). Tommy's unique talent is to play pinball by instinct, beating Elton John's Pinball Wizard. He becomes a cult figure, which his family try to cash in on with tours and holiday camps. In a fit of anger, Reed smashes Tommy's mirror causing him to snap out of his afflictions with the final "I'm free" song, and he becomes even more of a messiah-like figure. His followers riot tearing down the camp.
So basically Hamlet on acid?
Quote from: Rara Avis on 04 November, 2021, 03:52:14 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 03 November, 2021, 06:40:39 PM
Tommy was one of the first albums I had, so I knew the story before I saw the film and absolutely love both.
Basically, young Tommy's dad is "killed" in the war, and he goes deaf dumb and blind from the trauma. His step dad (Ollie Reed) is a bastard. Uncle Ernie abuses him, Cousin Kevin bullies him and Reed takes him to the Acid Queen to see if drugs will help. Reed is frustrated with the boy who stares at himself in the mirror all day. When his dad miraculously turns up alive, Reed kills him (this bit isn't referenced in the album lyrics, just the film). Tommy's unique talent is to play pinball by instinct, beating Elton John's Pinball Wizard. He becomes a cult figure, which his family try to cash in on with tours and holiday camps. In a fit of anger, Reed smashes Tommy's mirror causing him to snap out of his afflictions with the final "I'm free" song, and he becomes even more of a messiah-like figure. His followers riot tearing down the camp.
So basically Hamlet on acid?
LOTS of acid!
I remember watching this with my dad when it was on telly one night in the mid-80s or maybe a little later. Didn't have much of a clue what was going on and I've never had any interest in rewatching it (also had no idea it was a beloved cult classic rather than a weird curio) but there are definitely scenes or images from it seared into my memory. "Fiddle about" being one and some sort of toilet seat covered in toothpicks another.
Quadrophenia next?