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Megazine / Re: Megazine 433: Day of Dark Judgement!
« on: 16 June, 2021, 10:25:37 PM »
If the beating up scientists ends up being more relevant and explainable, then its a funny way to include it - Wagner has pulled that kind of trick a few times, but he would show you the beating, and it ould be clear it was out of character, and then the rug pull a few pages/episodes down the line.

Yeah I tend to agree but hope springs eternal.

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General / Re: NEXT UP - Anniversary Special - Writers Solhiem Cup
« on: 16 June, 2021, 09:17:31 PM »
[copynpaste[minoredits]]

Why the Solhiem Cup - repeated Tourney Format

I don’t like golf, let’s just get that said off the bat… or club... whatever.

I’m still fascinated by the idea that nostalgia rules so much of 2000ad fandom and want to test that as far as possible. Was the Prog really better back in the day? Is the Prog really as strong now as it's ever been (yes is the right answer by the way) - well that’s incredible hard to determine with a simple process BUT I enjoyed testing things with the Artists Ryder Cup and want to carry that on… who knows one day down the pipe I might do a similar thing with series but that will need some thought. I’ll go with the same way to test this - like ‘singles match play’ in the Ryder Cup.

There are two teams playing in the tourney, Team Classic - made up of Classic writers whose time with 2000ad appears to be over and the Current Writers - the winner of individual ties don’t really matter (well ish) , it's which team gets the most points that determines which team wins the tourney.

There will be 16 ties in the tourney each consisting of a current writer playing off against one classic writer and while some individual ties might be one sided, hopefully we’d have enough ties for things to balance out over all. The winner of each tie, scores a point for their side, Current or Classic. Draws get ½ point to each side, no need for a casting vote (I get to vote again!).

So this is going to be a simple tourney, no rounds, no qualifying (we’ve done that already) just 16 straight head to heads and as we go on we’ll get an ongoing score between Team Classic and Team Current.

Each tie will be drawn at random, so no seeding or anything like that. Again over the 16 ties that will balance out I figure.

Does that make sense?

The points scored across the 16 ties will give us a simple metric of how many ties the current crop of writers can take off the classic scribes.

We will also have the total votes scored as a secondary metric as well though the victory will be based on who scores the most Points by winning the most ties regardless of the margin of victory.

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Megazine / Re: Megazine 433: Day of Dark Judgement!
« on: 16 June, 2021, 09:14:12 PM »
Good Meg.

Dredd I agree with Leigh S about the way Dredd is portrayed as beating on the scientists to remind them they are criminals. That just seemed weird so don't know if that will play into things later. A considerable shame cos otherwise this was an excellent start. Vigourating, thrilling and brilliantly drawn.

Devlin Waugh was superb. Devlin's sentencing of Titty was superb and then WHAM that ending. Fantastic stuff and Mike Dowling's art is finding new ways to excel.

Diamond Dogs found ways to pull me in this time and I really enjoyed this episode - even if the Ron and Ron appearance was a bit weird!

The Returners was trippy fun - simple as that really and glorious art

Deliverance (all the d's this month) well that nailed the landing just fine didn't it. Fantastic conclusion and as much as I love this series I think that will be an excellent place to leave thing and the Dark Judges for good. Another winner and a fantastic ending to a great series.

Text pieces function and floppy, well we've read that recently so that one passed me buy. But the main event where by and large superb so happy with that one.

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Yeah I think when you talk any story you are placing yourself on wobbly ground as unless you have a smacking memory you are much more likely to forget some of the brilliant short stories than you are the longer form and epic ones.

So where is 'Buried my heart' or 'Letter from a Democrat' that's before you get to personal favs like 'The Man who knew too much', 'The Big Sleep' and '300 seconds'... your on a hiding to nothing... well even more so... when you include everything.

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General / NEXT UP - Anniversary Special - Writers Solhiem Cup
« on: 16 June, 2021, 06:37:37 AM »
So as we near the end of one nail biting tourney so we must start the new and so what's nexrt i hear you cry. Well...

...to mark the anniversary of all this tourney nonsense we’re going back to the start and since I enjoyed the Artist Ryder Cup so much AND we can’t really repeat the Fav writer tourney so soon and expect a different result I’m going with

Writers Solhiem Cup

Same format as the Artist Ryder Cup - but fewer rounds as there’s fewer writers - just 16 ties - we’ll be done within four weeks and onto the next thing which I’ve already started planning.

Oh and I’ve made some decisions I worry will annoy folks BUT we’ll come to those in a bit.

So buckle up as the result of hangs in the balance, we now decide which pool of writers is our favourite Team Current or Team Classic?

Prepare to enter copy and paste territory as I explain...So here, over the course of a standard number of posts I’ll lay out the format of the tourney. Who’s in which Team. The rules, for what they are. A NEW VOTING SYSTEM - ahem the same voting system. A way to ignore the new SAME voting system if you think it's rubbish, or can’t be bothered and anything else that comes to mind.

This one will kick-off Monday 21st June with a fair wind. Just in time to mark the 1st anniversary of the original Godpleton Cup finals (actually the 21st marks when the semi-finals started but no bugger is going to bother to go back and check that so I’m well safe…).

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This one has a day to go and I'll count up in the morning. Seems pretty clear which way this is going, but have to be honest not as clear cut as I thought it might be.

To be honest its not 100% clear cut for me. While I do like Steve Dillon's work its only his early stuff I adore. Often its the other way around for me, admiring early work but embracing the more confident later work, with Steve Dillon his latter stuff falls in to the confortable category for. David Roach on the other hand has a fine precise line, and a gift drawing the gothic and beautiful, but for me it lack a certain... well what... energy maybe? In the end I think I have to go:

David Roach 2 : Steve Dillon 3

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Saw that 2000ad themselves linked to this and even though commented there was at least one controversal choice. All it does is show that any one individuals list will look curious to us unwashed masses.

Still fun write up.

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Just a quickie tonight my dears.

As I've commented before NuYNWA and Selfabsorbed YNWA are colliding and so its hard to distinguish one from the other... normally. But its ressuring that Selfabsorbed YNWA is still capable of being a numb nut... or is that the Selfabsorb YNWA when now Selfabsorbed YNWA was NuYNWA was starting this re-read and thus awash with the type of Dredds 'Get Jerry Sing' is and so didn't appreciate it as much as current NuYNWA whose Selfabsorbed YNWA hasn't had this type of Dredd for a while now too... I think...shit I need to stop with this stuff!

Basically 'Get Jerry Sing' in Prog 2023 is an old school work of genius by the masters Wagner and Ezquerra. It really sings out as different and fresh by being so old and vital. Like a one off Dredd from the 300s but revitalised and modern. Its a simple story of a man scrawling a slogan, that slogan inspiring a fade and a murder... but it was all legal so he got away with it... except this is Mega City One so of course he didn't.

Its short, deceptively smart and oh so much fun. Just a brilliant piece of craft.

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Amazingly it could all come down to this. Judging by voting so far in tie 31 we might have the teams neck and neck coming into this last vote. I wasn't expecting it to be this close and this exciting and you have to wonder what each team has left battling tooth and nail for 31 tie, welll....

... two big, BIG artists it would seem have been kept for this final tie, as seems very fitting. We have Mr Covers himself… well of course he’s not called Mr Covers but his work has graced more covers than any other 2000ad artist and he still manages to find astonishing ways to show off Dredd and the rest of 2000ad’s worlds. Then you have Arthur Ranson. The only artist who is so good he makes it look like he’s photo-referencing gorilla’s gunning down Judges and pirates on space bicycles. For one final time…

Time for you to decide your favourite as the droids square up to the tee…

Cliff Robinson - more info

OR

Arthur Ranson more info

Remember for this tourney you have 5 votes to distribute as you please between these two artists, whole numbers only. So you can vote 5 - 0; 4 - 1; or 3 - 2; either way depending on how much more you like one artist's work over the other.

If you can’t be doing with that just name your favourite - remember bold tags, or other ways of highlighting always appreciated - and I’ll give them 3 votes and nowt to the other droid.

Three day votes, so this one ends morning of Friday 18th June - WHEN THARG’S RYDER CUP WILL BE PRESENTED!!!!!

Remember we only consider work for Tharg in these Tourneys

What the heck is all this about - well we have a thread for that

How does this new voting work? Look here and why again?

I don’t understand how this works, what are the rules of the Ryder Cup - yep got ya covered there too

Anything else just ask and I’ll make something up. Most importantly, have fun!


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Suggestions / Re: Could we have a 2000AD 45th Anniversary bash?
« on: 15 June, 2021, 06:10:09 AM »
I had a fantastic time at the 40th - in part due to many of the fine folks here - and would love to see another such event. You get the impression it was a lot of effort for not much (if any return) but if there was any possibility I'd be right up for it.

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Books & Comics / Re: Cinebooks
« on: 14 June, 2021, 08:49:10 PM »
Read all 8 albums of Orbital over the last few evening and they are excellent. It feels a little compressed at the end and there are many mysteries that remain and strong hints that the downbeat ending may not be all there is, though I think this is an planned ending.

Overall the art and design are stunning. The plot roams across worlds and themes. It has interesting develop from a down and dirty settler western in the first two volumes. To exploration of human isolationist attitudes (hhhmmm that's hitting home!) and developing consequences in 3 + 4 to interstella civil war in 5 + 6 until the final 2 are more metaphysical exploration of worlds, curious like a down to earth(ish) Incal.

So yeah it flys all over the place at quite some speed. The book at its heart remains the odd couple buddy story that keeps it all feeling coherant.

Wonderful stuff and another recommendation.

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Prog / Re: Prog 2236 - A view to a kill!
« on: 14 June, 2021, 08:35:09 PM »
WHOOPS - Richard beat me to it as I typed. Can a kindly mod merge please.

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Prog / Prog 2236 - A view to a kill!
« on: 14 June, 2021, 08:34:31 PM »
Where oh where is that Proudhuff review? Baggin' the Prog thread so late on a Monday evening - what is the world coming too?

Anyway who cares as its a good Prog, under a lovely Dylan Teague cover.

Colin MacNeil's art on Dredd finds new ways to get better somehow. Its simply stunning. The story is an intriguing opening by Wagner as an assassin apparently makes mistakes.

Mechastopheles has a decent episode with a story that allows Boo Cook to shine.

Department K continues to entertain why moving in unexpected direction, again. Last week we had an apparent invasion, this week an Eternal (well Locust) is dead as the Kirby vibe continues.

Chimpsky's Law is the star of the show, amusing, exciting and also moving in interestin directions. This story is such fun.

Feral and Foe has a bombastic ending, all action finale that wraps things up a little generically for the work that has gone before. Its good an' all but we've come to expect more. Still the good news is there seems to be more to come as the Nerve Centre calls it the 'current series' implying there more to come, which is great, well as long as the creative duo visit Kingdom on their way to the next run out.

Maybe not up to the stella levels of last week, but no complaints.

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Well into the last two ties and as the cliche goes all to play for Current Team could seal it here with a victory OR Classic Team could take it to the final tie to decide the winner. The slimmest of leads seem to make Current Team favourites, but its about whose left as we've seen both teams comfortably win 2 or more ties on the bounce, edge of the seat stuff.

So into these final two ties what can the teams still have in the locker. They’ve been trading punches over 30 ties so far. Surely they have nothing left to give… Well hell would you look at that. Classic Team only have Steve chuffin’ Dillon! He only made the second round of the original Classic tourney but he did draw Carlos there so, ya know. Current Team aren’t doing too bad either. David Roach might have gone out in Round 1 of the Current Tourney - but some on Dave Roach. Not bad. Suspect this will be a toughy BUT these are vital round so…

Time for you to decide your favourite as the droids square up to the tee…

David Roach - more info

OR

Steve Dillon - more info

Remember for this tourney you have 5 votes to distribute as you please between these two artists, whole numbers only. So you can vote 5 - 0; 4 - 1; or 3 - 2; either way depending on how much more you like one artist's work over the other.

If you can’t be doing with that just name your favourite - remember bold tags, or other ways of highlighting always appreciated - and I’ll give them 3 votes and nowt to the other droid.

Three day votes, so this one ends morning of Thursday 17th June

Remember we only consider work for Tharg in these Tourneys

What the heck is all this about - well we have a thread for that

How does this new voting work? Look here and why again?

I don’t understand how this works, what are the rules of the Ryder Cup - yep got ya covered there too

Anything else just ask and I’ll make something up. Most importantly have fun!

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VOTING CLOSED

Well this one was steady moving in one direction but late votes for the great Edmund Bagwell closed the gap considerably, however not enough and the final vote went to the equally great INJ Culbard. Such incredible talent in this tie.

Over all, well three wins on the bounce have tipped the very delicate balance back in favour of Current Team with only 2 votes to go. It really couldn't be closer

Current Team 15.5 : Classic Team 14.5

Current Team 1349 : Classic Team 1360

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