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Announcements / Re: 2000 AD - The Ultimate Collection
« on: 29 January, 2018, 08:48:04 PM »
FWIW, I've asked about switching subs, having seen that covers volume. No reply as yet, sadly.

Has the covers volume even been confirmed as a premium sub thing?

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Announcements / Re: 2000 AD - The Ultimate Collection
« on: 29 January, 2018, 06:46:37 PM »
I quite enjoyed Verdus.  Yes it was daft and cliched but it was fun and action packed.

Day of the Droids (where the "Mexican-cliche cigar" turns up) wasn't quite as good imo.  Not sure quite what it was that let it down but the new sidekicks certainly didn't help matters.

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Announcements / Re: 2000 AD - The Ultimate Collection
« on: 24 January, 2018, 08:42:36 AM »
If the covers books are only going to be available to premium subscribers then that's really annoying as I'm another who would have gone premium for them. 

Doesn't look like it's possible to upgrade to a premium sub once you're past issue 5 either  :(

There's going to be a few grumpy subscribers if that's the case.  And Hachette have done themselves out of a few extra £s by not publicising these upfront, I'd certainly have considered a premium sub if I'd known it included extra books.

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Announcements / Re: 2000 AD - The Ultimate Collection
« on: 23 January, 2018, 08:54:35 PM »
Yeah that covers volume looks amazing and I don't recall it being mentioned anywhere previously.

Could it be one of the missing volumes?
I seem to recall there were 1-2 unknowns left in the list.

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Announcements / Re: 2000 AD - The Ultimate Collection
« on: 15 January, 2018, 12:22:01 PM »
Really loving the Ezquerra Dredd volume.I thought it would feel like sweepings from the cutting room floor, but instead it's a really strong and a decent entry-level Dredd collection.

Yeah I had a similar concern and was pleasantly surprised.  It's a nice little collection.  Hopefully the other 2 Dredd books will manage to maintain the quality seen here.

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Announcements / Re: 2000 AD - The Ultimate Collection
« on: 19 December, 2017, 11:14:29 AM »
an oddly out of context Return of the King;

What would I need to get the context for that story?  Is it just the Necropolis vol from the mega collection?

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Announcements / Re: 2000 AD - The Ultimate Collection
« on: 15 December, 2017, 03:30:09 PM »

Volume-wise, Stickleback is Volume 65 and Ampney Crucis Investigates is Volume 65.

Hope this helps!
(not really lol)

I'd assume they mean 65 and 66.  Which would place Durham and Meltdown as 56 and 59 as those are the only unaccounted for single vols (although if Invasion/Savage is only 3 books we're short one book I believe which messes with that logic somewhat).

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Announcements / Re: 2000 AD - The Ultimate Collection
« on: 15 December, 2017, 02:30:09 PM »
But it can only be three at the most due to the next book on the list.

Do we know what vol 65 will be?

Also if Invasion/Savage isn't 4 books then we've got at least 1 mystery title I believe as that would leave us short of the 80.

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Announcements / Re: 2000 AD - The Ultimate Collection
« on: 14 December, 2017, 12:56:37 PM »
Durham would make most sense as vol.14, no?

Seems likely - which leaves a nice Invasion sized gap there.  Although that could equally be the remaining single vol and Robo or SinDex, or it could be 2 of Ace Trucking Co, Caballistics Inc and Tharg's Future Shocks.

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Announcements / Re: 2000 AD - The Ultimate Collection
« on: 14 December, 2017, 11:34:09 AM »
With that info we can get a pretty good picture of the final shelf order of the complete set:

01-03    Judge Dredd
04-13    Strontium Dog
14-18    ? [5 vols]
19-22    Nemesis the Warlock
23-28    ABC Warriors
29-41    Sláine
42-44    ? [3 vols]
45         Skizz/DR & Quinch
46         The Ballad of Halo Jones
47-51    Rogue Trooper
52-53    Bad Company
54         Hewligan’s Haircut
55         Zombo
56         ? [1 vol]
57-58    Shakara: The Avenger
59         ? [1 vol]
60-61    Kingdom
62-71    ? [10 vols]
72-80    Nikolai Dante

56 + 59 are clearly going to be either Ampney, Durham, Meltdown or Stickleback.  Also seems likely one of Robo-hunter or Sinister Dexter will be 42-44 given those are both 3 book runs, although I guess this could be one of the remaining single vols and a pair (Ace Trucking Co, Caballistics Inc, Tharg's Future Shocks).  Invasion has to be either somewhere in the 14-18 gap or in the 62-71 gap, placing that would probably give us a better guess at the remainder (anyone got any info on that one?).

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Announcements / Re: 2000 AD - The Ultimate Collection
« on: 14 December, 2017, 09:27:01 AM »
For me, the first SD volume has a fun vibrancy to it, particularly the humour with the Gronk. Undoubtedly some of this is nostalgia, but I'd be interested to know if this is a starting point on discovering 2000AD for anyone, and what their thoughts are.

This series is pretty much my intro to 2000AD, beyond reading a few odd bits from a band mates copies of the prog back in the 90s.  Have to say I found vol1 of Stront a bit of a slog, it felt very much of it's time and aimed at a younger audience.  I can understand this has nostalgia value for those who read it "back in the day" but that's a little before my time (Galaxy Killers and Journey to Hell were published before I was born) and reading it for the first time now it feels dated.  Have to say I'm kinda glad we're not getting the even earlier Starlord stuff as well if this vol is an indication of where the strip was back there.

Leading with Kreeler Conspiracy as the first issue of Stront was a good plan on Hachette's part (even if it did lead to a spoiler filled intro).  If Vol1 had been the first issue of Stront we'd received it wouldn't have persuaded me I needed to keep my sub to read the rest.

Dante on the other hand was superb, can't wait to see where that's going in future vols.

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Announcements / Re: 2000 AD - The Ultimate Collection
« on: 09 November, 2017, 12:41:12 PM »
Tell you what, this Kingdom volume’s the most gorgeous one yet, innit?

Isn't it just.  Loved every page and can't wait for the next one.

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Announcements / Re: 2000 AD - The Ultimate Collection
« on: 06 November, 2017, 01:36:31 PM »
As for Horned God, I suspect that was a smart first item in the series, because it twangs those nostalgia glands, and was a turning point in British comics and 2000 AD as a whole from an aesthetic standpoint and in its epic/collected nature. I can't think of something that would have been better to grab potential readers with. (Halo Jones, strategically speaking, was a smart follow-up, but would have been a riskier lead.)

Horned God and Halo as the first 2 were the perfect thing to get me to buy in.  There were both things I've been meaning to read for years so signing up for a sub to test the waters seemed like a good risk.  Now 6 books in we've had 1 installement from 2 of the 3 main hitters, with the 1st Nikolai and 2nd Stront coming next month that'll be the point where I'll either decide to bail or buckle up for the rest of the ride.  From what I've heard of Dante I strongly suspect it'll be the later.

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Announcements / Re: 2000 AD - The Ultimate Collection
« on: 06 November, 2017, 12:06:42 PM »
I can definitely see how context would help Horned God, part of my problem with it was it all seemed a bit too "and then..., and then".  With knowledge of the backstory those links might have felt a bit more natural.  It's not that I particularly disliked it just that in comparison to the other volumes we've received so far I found the story a little lacking.  If I was picking a volume off the shelf for a re-read at this point I doubt it'd be Horned God.  Maybe I'll give it another go once we've had the preceding three vols.

This is my first time reading these strips.  At this point I think the only thing that's likely to get me to ditch my sub is if I hate Nikolai Dante.  I can cope with a couple of sub-par volumes here and there, in a collection of 80 books there was always bound to be some stuff that isn't as good as the rest.  But if one of the major threads isn't to my taste then that would be much harder to swallow.  I mean looking at the list of titles in terms of %s:

Sláine: 16%
Strontium Dog: 12.5%
Nikolai Dante:  11%
ABC Warriors: 7.5%
Rogue Trooper: 6%
Savage/Invasion!, Nemesis: 5% each
Robo-hunter, Dredd, Sinister Dexter: 3.75% each
With the remaining 1 and 2 book sets making up the last 25%.

Slaine, Strontium Dog & Dante will make up nearly 40% of the collection.  Wanting to read Strontium Dog was one of my main reasons to buy into this and that's not disappointed so far.  Slaine was good and I'm looking forward to getting the back story, if it can keep to this standard for 13 books I'll be a happy man.  As long as Dante doesn't suck then I think I'm in for the ride.

It'll be a shame if we're missing series 7 of Kingdom.  Maybe a candidate for an extension.  Although I guess that's unlikely unless there's some new material, 1 series wouldn't make for an entire volume.  If series 8 and 9 happen in the meantime though, then it might become viable...

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Announcements / Re: 2000 AD - The Ultimate Collection
« on: 05 November, 2017, 11:11:26 AM »
So we'll be getting 3 of the 4 volumes of Nemesis in pretty close succession then.  I wonder how long they'll make us wait for the concluding volume.

Personally I'd rather have the next vol of Kingdom, just finished the first one and I think it's the best book yet.  Gorgeous art (especially in the third part), great storyline, excellent characters.  I can't wait to learn more about that world.  Don't get me wrong I enjoyed Nemesis too but Kingdom just really blew me away.  Does anyone know if Vol 2 will bring us right up to date or will we end up missing series 7?

It does seem strange to cluster so much Nemesis in the first few months when there are 13 vols of Slaine to get through, you'd think they'd want to space those more evenly over the subscription.  As it is there's potentially going to be a glut of the barbarian at some point.  With 13 volumes scheduled that always meant approximately every 6th book was going to be Slaine.  Given what we know of the release schedule it's looking closer to being every 5th book from next April onwards now.  Really hope we don't end up getting a double Slaine month to catch up. 

I can now understand the reservations of those thinking this series is going to contain too much Slaine from upthread. The Horned God is imo the weakest of the volumes we've received so far (in terms of story anyway, the artwork is jaw-dropping).  If that's representative of the best of the barbarian then I'm concerned some of the others are going to be the lame ducks of the series.

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