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Started by Quirkafleeg, 27 February, 2006, 03:03:14 PM

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milstar

Quote from: GordonR on 18 October, 2021, 10:18:40 PM
QuoteHe even acknowledged it afterwards.

Wow, that's amazing.

Tell me, what  actual repercussions did he - or any of the rest of them - suffer for admitting they started an illegal war on knowingly fraudulent grounds?

Does it not bother you in the slightest how fast you come running to defend the powerful?

So what?

A man, including him, can repent and see the error of his ways. I don't see Bush doing the same. Or Clinton. Or Blair for that matter. Powell even endorsed Obama, evidently slashing ties with Republicans.

"American GIs are not toy soldiers to be moved around on some global game board,"
Reyt, you lot. Shut up, belt up, 'n if ye can't see t' bloody exit, ye must be bloody blind.

Funt Solo

Re. Colin Powell - the piece on Channel 4 News presents the WMD moment as a serious gaffe, where he was set up as the stooge. His defense: he was just following orders*, and regretted his lack of due diligence in fact checking what he was saying.

I'm not saying that makes him a great guy, but it does throw a different light on things. Used by hawks, rather than being a hawk, you might say.

For repercussions, he resigned his position with that government and accepted that his legacy would include being (effectively) a liar whose lies made the case for war.

Still - we should never forget or forgive his mispronunciation of his own name.

*I know.
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Tjm86

Quote from: GordonR on 18 October, 2021, 10:18:40 PM
Tell me, what  actual repercussions did he - or any of the rest of them - suffer for admitting they started an illegal war on knowingly fraudulent grounds?

Does it not bother you in the slightest how fast you come running to defend the powerful?

Fair point with regard to the consequences.  This is perhaps the largest problem with politics now.  What are the odds that Johnson, Hancock et al are actually properly held to account over the impact of Covid for instance?

That said, is it completely wrong to want to point out the full picture? 

Hawkmumbler

"He admitted he made a mistake."

Same energy:


Funt Solo

So minor criticism here is that he helped start a terrible war and should "burn in hell". What does major criticism look like?
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CalHab

Quote from: milstar on 18 October, 2021, 05:02:57 PM
Quote from: GordonR on 18 October, 2021, 04:35:46 PM
Quote from: milstar on 18 October, 2021, 01:57:56 PM
As with David Amess, someone may disagree with his personal politics, but when it comes to the military issues, Colin at least wasn't that bloodthirsty unlike many of his military compatriots. "war should be the last resort".

Maybe when he gets to Hell he'll find those weapons of mass destruction that, as part of the Bush administration, he spent years lying about.

I don't blame him entirely, and it's likely his only mistake in his career. He even acknowledged it afterwards.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2011/9/11/colin-powell-regrets-iraq-war-intelligence

It's worth also pointing out that he participated in the original cover up investigation into the My Lai massacre.

milstar

Quote from: CalHab on 19 October, 2021, 03:26:34 PM
It's worth also pointing out that he participated in the original cover up investigation into the My Lai massacre.

You mean when he was accused for whitewashing?
Reyt, you lot. Shut up, belt up, 'n if ye can't see t' bloody exit, ye must be bloody blind.

Funt Solo

Quote from: CalHab on 19 October, 2021, 03:26:34 PM
It's worth also pointing out that he participated in the original cover up investigation into the My Lai massacre.

And he was against gay folk serving in the military. On the plus-side: he rescued three comrades from a burning helicopter.

This is now reminding me of a Norm MacDonald joke: "You know, with Hitler: the more I learn about that guy, the more I don't care for him".
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CalHab

Brian Delaney, artist on various DC Thomson and IPC magazines and comics:
https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/obituaries/2687229/obituary-brian-delaney-artist-who-illustrated-jackie-magazine/

The Press & Journal obituary (which I can't find a link for) says that he worked for Jackie, Grange Hill, Romeo, Mandy, Diana, Misty, Patches and Buddy,

CalHab

The Misty story that Brian Delaney did was The Four Faces of Eve:
https://britishcomics.fandom.com/wiki/The_Four_Faces_of_Eve

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sheridan

Quote from: CalHab on 28 October, 2021, 01:28:46 PM
The Misty story that Brian Delaney did was The Four Faces of Eve:
https://britishcomics.fandom.com/wiki/The_Four_Faces_of_Eve

Available in one of the Misty collections from The Treasury of British Comics

sheridan

Malcolm Dome, 66, music journalist, rock author and coiner of the term 'thrash metal'.

repoman

Quote from: sheridan on 01 November, 2021, 10:10:32 PM
Malcolm Dome, 66, music journalist, rock author and coiner of the term 'thrash metal'.

oh no!  I liked him. 

IAMTHESYSTEM

Dancer, Choreographer and occasional actor Lionel Blair has died.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-59171576
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