The Political Thread

[IndigoPrime]

Probably because the UK's voting system is such that you have to appeal to a small number of middle-England vote seats and pensioners to win elections. It's notable that pretty much everyone in opposition advocates a sensible drugs policy, for example, but the second they're in power they do a 180.

[Theblazeuk]

What in particular earns Keith Vaz the term 'Moral Crusader'?

Has he ever campaigned for the sanctity of married life, heteronormal society and sobriety?

As far as I can see he's sat on a committee and recommended changes to keep sex workers safe and relax 'moral crusading'. So.... hypocrite shoe is really on the other foot there, at least as far as such things as http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3774587/Keith-Vaz-accused-hypocrisy-committee-s-inquiry-prostitution-included-4-000-fact-finding-trip-Copenhagen.html goes.

Sitting on the committee isn't hypocritical. Saying whats good for the goose isn't good for the gander is.

(Not that I approve it's a load of silly f***ing nonsense)

[Michael Knight]

lol. Keith Vaz is one of the most pious pontificating MP's of modern times. Has a history of making up allegations against people that challenged him, His wife too. Please check out back history of sleaze and allegations against this scumbag.
Chief cheerleader for Greville Janner too. Strange character is Keith Vaz.

[Fungus]

No great knowledge of Vaz's history, but he has always been among the most pompous and self-important oafs at Westminster. What a turn-up.

[Frank]

Has (Keith Vaz) ever campaigned for the sanctity of married life, heteronormal society and sobriety?

Vaz's offence isn't being gay or cheating on his wife; it's paying vulnerable people to let him rape them.

I'm mostly familiar with Mr Vaz through his opportunistic scapegoating of games. I may be guilty of murdering millions of pixels in my lifetime, but I draw the line at selling out Salman Rushdie.

I don't know if censorship and free speech are moral issues per se, but it's certainly sticking your oar into other people's business because you think you know better (or are better) than them.

[dweezil2]

What in particular earns Keith Vaz the term 'Moral Crusader'?

Has he ever campaigned for the sanctity of married life, heteronormal society and sobriety?

As far as I can see he's sat on a committee and recommended changes to keep sex workers safe and relax 'moral crusading'. So.... hypocrite shoe is really on the other foot there, at least as far as such things as http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3774587/Keith-Vaz-accused-hypocrisy-committee-s-inquiry-prostitution-included-4-000-fact-finding-trip-Copenhagen.html goes.

Sitting on the committee isn't hypocritical. Saying whats good for the goose isn't good for the gander is.

(Not that I approve it's a load of silly f***ing nonsense)

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/gamesblog/2012/may/03/keith-vaz-controls-violent-video-games

Although he probably learned a lot from GTA! 

[dweezil2]

You beat me to the punch there Frank! 

[Michael Knight]

Well said Frank mate! 

[Eric Plumrose]

I don't know if censorship and free speech are moral issues per se, but it's certainly sticking your oar into other people's business because you think you know better (or are better) than them.

"I'm morally superior so it's okay for me to."

The spirit of James Ferman remains firmly corked.









Ooh!

[dweezil2]

I don't know if censorship and free speech are moral issues per se, but it's certainly sticking your oar into other people's business because you think you know better (or are better) than them.

"I'm morally superior so it's okay for me to."

The spirit of James Ferman remains firmly corked.


James Ferman! What dark days of censorship his BBFC tenure was!

I bumped into him once-he positively oozed self righteousness!








Ooh!

[Theblazeuk]

Thanks all So he's a sanctimonious prick for sure, and a massive hypocrite in general, even if not on the issue of this particular type of hedonism.

Vaz's offence isn't being gay or cheating on his wife; it's paying vulnerable people to let him rape them.

I'm not sure I agree with that as a statement for all sex workers, but it's an unpleasant business to be sure.

[Hawkmumbler]

Thanks all So he's a sanctimonious prick for sure, and a massive hypocrite in general, even if not on the issue of this particular type of hedonism.

Vaz's offence isn't being gay or cheating on his wife; it's paying vulnerable people to let him rape them.

I'm not sure I agree with that as a statement for all sex workers, but it's an unpleasant business to be sure.

Indeed, contrary to what many of you may believe a large number of sex workers do it out of there own free will for various reasons, so lets not shame a neutral party here.

[Frank]

contrary to what many of you may believe ...

Beliefs are distinct from facts. 95% of prostitutes have a problem addiction, 70% of them were in care, and 75% of them started as children:

http://www.demandchange.org.uk/prostitution-the-facts/

[IndigoPrime]

By the same token, writing the above (as in, the bit Theblazeuk quoted) as a statement like that is libellous and actionable. Please refrain from making such accusations on this forum.

[Hawkmumbler]

By the same token, writing the above (as in, the bit Theblazeuk quoted) as a statement like that is libellous and actionable. Please refrain from making such accusations on this forum.

Agreed and much more eloquantly put than I ever could.