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: Dreddverse Map
: Funt Solo 16 January, 2021, 01:59:26 AM
By my reckoning, every strip that's been set in the Dreddverse...

(https://i.imgur.com/xh93rst.png)
: Re: Dreddverse Map
: Colin YNWA 16 January, 2021, 07:03:54 AM
I'm not seeing anything? But that could be me as I'm having all sorts of problems seeing images on the page at the moment?
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: alphadogau 16 January, 2021, 07:10:32 AM
Excellent work !
Would you consider adding:
Flesh
The Dead Man
Strontium Dog
Rogue Trooper ?
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: Dark Jimbo 16 January, 2021, 09:35:32 AM
Funt, you continue to be the hero this board needs (but probably doesn't deserve).
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: sintec 16 January, 2021, 10:12:56 AM
Excellent work !
Would you consider adding:
Flesh
The Dead Man
Strontium Dog
Rogue Trooper ?

Is there a rouge trooper -> dreddverse connection?

I'm assuming the Flesh connection is Satanus - but doesn't that then end up pulling in the entire Millsverse as that's then connected to ABC Warriors->Nemesis->Savage->RoBusters. None of which really feels like Dreddverse to me.
: Re: Dreddverse Map
: IndigoPrime 16 January, 2021, 11:22:07 AM
The Fr1day incarnation of Rogue Trooper ends up in MC1 during Casualties of War (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=prog&page=profiles&choice=900), which inferred that world was Dredd’s future (in much the same way Strontium Dog is Dredd’s future). But there are all kinds of slight connections to other strips, some of which are extremely tenuous (such as Robo-Hunter being in Brit-Cit, albeit one significantly different from what we see elsewhere).

Things are further complicated by references to MC1 in Mills’s output, and with the Hammerstein crossover; but then it feels like with his Langley-era strips that Mills has ret-conned Ro-Busters and ABC Warriors out of its original continuity and into a distinct one of its own.

The Dead Man should definitely be in the Cursed Earth list, mind.
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: TordelBack 16 January, 2021, 11:26:01 AM
Does Chopper need an additional entry for Mega-City 2?

And am I missing Satanus Unchained?

This is lovely, and a surprisingly good memory-jogger.
: Re: Dreddverse Map
: Jim_Campbell 16 January, 2021, 11:30:59 AM
(in much the same way Strontium Dog is Dredd’s future)

More accurately, Dredd is Strontium Dog's past. The way time has been demonstrated to work in Dredd continuity means that although Dredd exists in SD's past timeline, it doesn't automatically follow that SD is the future of Dredd's timeline. The timelines can diverge at any point post-Judgement Day, setting Dredd's future on a different path from the one that results in the SD universe.
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: IndigoPrime 16 January, 2021, 11:46:44 AM
Yeah—that. Really, it’s obviously just John Wagner having fun with his toys, but Dredd has compared to many other strips (*cough*constant Marvel/DC reboots*cough*) been fairly tight from a continuity standpoint. Looks like from the dates we have, this might need addressing in 2028, assuming 2000 AD still exists then, and assuming the editor at that point gives a crap about extreme nerds. (Strontium Dog states a massive nuclear war occurs in 2150. Dredd is currently set in 2143.)

Personally, I couldn’t give a rat’s arse about such connections. I see them as fun asides rather than anything to worry about—alt dimension shenanigans. After all, we don’t feel compelled to roll in Batman’s entire continuity into Dredd, and then by extension the entire DC universe (or at least one of them). Do we?
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: Jim_Campbell 16 January, 2021, 12:01:26 PM
I see them as fun asides rather than anything to worry about—alt dimension shenanigans. After all, we don’t feel compelled to roll in Batman’s entire continuity into Dredd, and then by extension the entire DC universe (or at least one of them). Do we?

No, but that's explicitly an alternate dimension story, rather than a time travel one, although the distinction between an alternate dimension and an alternate timeline is a pretty fuzzy one.
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: Dark Jimbo 16 January, 2021, 12:06:46 PM
I see them as fun asides rather than anything to worry about—alt dimension shenanigans. After all, we don’t feel compelled to roll in Batman’s entire continuity into Dredd, and then by extension the entire DC universe (or at least one of them). Do we?

No, but that's explicitly an alternate dimension story, rather than a time travel one, although the distinction between an alternate dimension and an alternate timeline is a pretty fuzzy one.

Yeah, and that's the key - when I read 'time travel' in the Rogue/Stront/Dredd crossovers, I just fudge that in my head to 'dimensional travel' and hey presto!*

*Although the first Dredd/Stront crossover makes great - and explicit - use of time travel shenanigans as an integral part of the plot!
: Re: Dreddverse Map
: Colin YNWA 16 January, 2021, 12:10:47 PM
Ohhh that's pretty - work VPN allows me to see the images again firmly pointing my problem to our ISP Talktalk and I've popped to their forum to get some advice - anyway that isjust wonderful.

Following on from IndigoPrime's comment is it worth having a box for crossovers, so say Dredd Bats, Dredd Aliens, Dredd Predator etc etc.

Also listing Daily Dredd's under the Judge Dredd box? Entirely your perogative cos this is simply magnificent as it is.
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: Dandontdare 16 January, 2021, 02:55:31 PM
I'm not seeing anything? But that could be me as I'm having all sorts of problems seeing images on the page at the moment?

Imgur's having issues - I can't see any images posted here and the imgur homepage is just empty frames

Ohhh that's pretty - work VPN allows me to see the images again firmly pointing my problem to our ISP Talktalk and I've popped to their forum to get some advice - anyway that is just wonderful.

Or this could be it - let me know if you get a fix as I'm on talktalk too
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: Dandontdare 16 January, 2021, 02:59:21 PM
update - changing my VPN to USA seems to work - looks like its a problem with Imgur for UK users
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: Colin YNWA 16 January, 2021, 03:24:24 PM
update - changing my VPN to USA seems to work - looks like its a problem with Imgur for UK users

Yeah just had a reply to my post on the Talktalk forums and they say it happens every year and gets fixed, but aside from changing things like going onto a VPN (or different one) your knacked until they do Maybe a compnay as big as Imgur (Are Imgur big?) forget to update their Certificates (or whatever) the same as everyone else!

Anyway back on topic - that map is still astonishing huh.
: Re: Dreddverse Map
: Mike Carroll 16 January, 2021, 04:52:09 PM
Excellent work, Funt!

(Although: Dreadnoughts is set mostly in Colorado, so that's in the middle of the Cursed Earth on your map...!)
: Re: Dreddverse Map
: Funt Solo 16 January, 2021, 05:19:40 PM
You probably don't need to, but you can right-click and open the image in a new tab to get a slightly larger version of it.

*Edit - oh, and the stories are presented in their lists in order of publication. In case anyone was wondering.

Responding to queries & notes:

 - The Dead Man, of course, should be listed in the grouping for The Cursed Earth.

 - I can shift Dreadnoughts into that listing as well.

 - Regarding Millsverse strips (Flesh, Ro-Busters, Savage et al), that opens up something of a can of worms (or "Wuurrrmms!" if we include Armoured Gideon and therefore The Order). My thought was to pretend none of that was really happening. I realize that means ignoring the Satanus through-line, but, well, let's say I was sticking more with obvious thematic continuity. My logic breaks down with the inclusion of Judge Planet and Pussyfoot 5, but if the writers can interconnect all of this disparate stuff just to have fun then I can have fun with diagrams, grudammit!

 - The Rogue Trooper crossover is a bit weak sauce - a one-off starring Fr1day and his knife. It *could* get added to the inter-dimensional box without anyone blushing, but then that opens up the entire Rogue-i-verse. As it was actually a Judge Dredd story we could just walk away whistling quietly and hope nobody notices.

 - Strontium Dog is an interesting one - the two timelines *could* fit, but it's tricky to marry the UK presented in Portrait of a Mutant as being the future of the UK presented as Brit-Cit. It's a weak link, and mentally I do what Jimbo does and pretend it's a mixture of dimensions and time. (Also, can of wuuurrmms! because SD spins into Durham Red, Dogs & Tales.)

 - Chopper mostly resides in Oz in his solo stories, in the same way as JD mostly resides in MC-1, so I just chose a location. Nobody gets to live in two places in this diagram. You don't get anything for a pair ... not in this game!

 - Satanus Unchained is a tricky one - it's definitely in the Dreddverse - probably need to add that. But then, Mills-verse! Aieee! Circles of continuity making my brain bleed!

Summary: maybe, we'll see.
: Re: Dreddverse Map
: JayzusB.Christ 16 January, 2021, 06:09:12 PM
(in much the same way Strontium Dog is Dredd’s future)

More accurately, Dredd is Strontium Dog's past. The way time has been demonstrated to work in Dredd continuity means that although Dredd exists in SD's past timeline, it doesn't automatically follow that SD is the future of Dredd's timeline. The timelines can diverge at any point post-Judgement Day, setting Dredd's future on a different path from the one that results in the SD universe.

Aye, you've put me straight on this before - though Johnny and Dredd met again a few years ago, so maybe it's after that point rather than Judgement Day that the timestream separated into the SD trouserleg and the Dreddworld one (though it's a bit of a stretch to imagine Britain would revert to the far-less-futuristic version than the one that Johnny comes from).

Funt - amazing work.  It's something I've wanted for years.  I've always thought there should be a section like this in the Megazine - an atlas of sorts, with the main events of Dreddworld history summarised for each place, illustrated with reprinted panels as required.  I'd take that as a Megazine floppy over reprinted strips any day.  Look and learn, Meg-Tharg.

: Re: Dreddverse Map
: Funt Solo 16 January, 2021, 07:38:04 PM
Still resisting the inclusion of Flesh, Strontium Dog & Fr1day because "tra la la I can't hear you", but The Cursed Earth zone got some additions and I fixed the background colour problem in the bottom half:

(https://i.imgur.com/2pw9Yr4.png)


*This is really nerd-heaven for old timers, but I think for newer readers it doesn't offer much - many of these stories are obscure one-offs. Reason for creation: I was just curious about how many spin-offs Judge Dredd had created, and needed some way to organize the list beyond it just being a really long list.
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: Professor Bear 16 January, 2021, 07:50:16 PM
Helter Skelter's ending cut Dreddworld off from the alternate realities of other 2000ad stories - at least until End of Days decided that no longer applied - and I assumed the intent was to avoid this kind of nitpicking so Dreddworld didn't have to tie itself in continuity knots explaining something minor.  If something from another 2000ad story happened in Dreddworld's past (IE: in stories already published), then that's fine, because those realities/stories still existed as possibilities at that point in the past, but not anymore because of the events of Helter Skelter.  Except End Of Days said that doesn't count anymore, so whatever, I guess.

Quantum Wave Theory Time travel wibble-wobble posits that no future is set in stone because that future doesn't actually exist and is merely a possible outcome of all events that are currently in motion, and even if you collapse the waveforms into a singular observable point go into the future, it doesn't mean the future you observe will definitely exist, because once you travel back to the past, the waveforms are un-collapsed everything is in motion again and events can turn out differently.

In other words: Dredd and Anderson went to the City Of The Damned, but that wasn't how their future turned out.
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: Andrew_J 16 January, 2021, 08:26:02 PM
Brilliant work Funt.
: Re: Dreddverse Map
: Robin Low 16 January, 2021, 10:11:58 PM
- Regarding Millsverse strips (Flesh, Ro-Busters, Savage et al), that opens up something of a can of worms (or "Wuurrrmms!" if we include Armoured Gideon and therefore The Order). My thought was to pretend none of that was really happening. I realize that means ignoring the Satanus through-line, but, well, let's say I was sticking more with obvious thematic continuity. My logic breaks down with the inclusion of Judge Planet and Pussyfoot 5, but if the writers can interconnect all of this disparate stuff just to have fun then I can have fun with diagrams, grudammit!

 - Strontium Dog is an interesting one - the two timelines *could* fit, but it's tricky to marry the UK presented in Portrait of a Mutant as being the future of the UK presented as Brit-Cit. It's a weak link, and mentally I do what Jimbo does and pretend it's a mixture of dimensions and time. (Also, can of wuuurrmms! because SD spins into Durham Red, Dogs & Tales.)

The sad thing is, I figured and argued all this out into a coherent picture years ago... and now I find I just don't care any more. There's little or no more meaningful Strontium Dog to be had now that we've lost Carlos and John W has all but retired. Dredd is either drifting or being pulled in different directions by different writers. It seems unlikely that we'll get anymore Savage out of Mills (except savage swipes at anyone who looks at him funny).

Very nice map though - respect the work put into it. Don't let my disillusionment distract from that.

Regards,

Robin
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: Funt Solo 16 January, 2021, 11:44:48 PM
Hi Robin,

There was a timeline I saw, years ago now - I think it was in the Games Workshop Judge Dredd RPG, and it tied in information from Flesh, and also from Strontium Dog. Or maybe my old brain is mashing together bits of that and other lists from the board - probably yours if you published it here.

One thing I get about being a mad collector is that it doesn't matter much to the job of publishing 2000 AD every week - their concern is always going to be focused on the here and now - what are stories doing now, are they popular now and can we sell a collected edition?

Whether Top Dogs or Casualties of War or Pat's tendency to tie everything together (although the link between Slaine and Ro-Busters has yet to be explored) means anything is a bit irrelevant, I suppose, in the grand scheme of things. It's all just something that was published in the past.

It is sad, of course, that so many of our favorite creators are no longer able to thrill us in the pages of the comic - whether they've shuffled off the mortal coil or retired or drifted into pastures new - but I'm still keen to see what the new generation does with the thing that was never meant to last this long in the first place.

Dredd has shifted away from being this core driven mostly by a single writer into a milieu in which many writers weave their own visions - and it is weird, as a long-timer, to try to understand whether Dredd is a character or a narrative vessel.

The stories that have really gripped me recently are newer concerns, and if Dredd exists as the tent-pole that holds up the entire circus then ... okay. A tent-pole covered in old flyers that cover up the chips and dents. We lean against it, taking it for granted as we watch the new acts take to the floor.

All the best,

Linton
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: JayzusB.Christ 17 January, 2021, 12:42:33 AM
Well, I must say that brought a tear to my eye.  Thanks, Funt... or Linton?  I like to think that it's your surname, and your first name is Geoff.
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: JOE SOAP 17 January, 2021, 01:18:36 AM
Thanks, Funt... or Linton?  I like to think that it's your surname, and your first name is Geoff.


The Geoff Linton?
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: JayzusB.Christ 17 January, 2021, 01:29:00 AM
Yah, yah, yah, yah. 
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: Funt Solo 17 January, 2021, 02:35:42 AM
Thanks, Funt... or Linton?  I like to think that it's your surname, and your first name is Geoff.


The Geoff Linton?

Had to look that up (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2VoHdpj2ZA) - had no idea Bob Mortimer was in the city now, yah?

But I'm like Mr. Kwesi Johnson (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uvY5qU7ayg) in terms of the placement.
: Re: Dreddverse Map
: Colin YNWA 17 January, 2021, 07:15:16 AM
Hi Robin,

There was a timeline I saw, years ago now - I think it was in the Games Workshop Judge Dredd RPG, and it tied in information from Flesh, and also from Strontium Dog. Or maybe my old brain is mashing together bits of that and other lists from the board - probably yours if you published it here.

One thing I get about being a mad collector is that it doesn't matter much to the job of publishing 2000 AD every week - their concern is always going to be focused on the here and now - what are stories doing now, are they popular now and can we sell a collected edition?

Whether Top Dogs or Casualties of War or Pat's tendency to tie everything together (although the link between Slaine and Ro-Busters has yet to be explored) means anything is a bit irrelevant, I suppose, in the grand scheme of things. It's all just something that was published in the past.

It is sad, of course, that so many of our favorite creators are no longer able to thrill us in the pages of the comic - whether they've shuffled off the mortal coil or retired or drifted into pastures new - but I'm still keen to see what the new generation does with the thing that was never meant to last this long in the first place.

Dredd has shifted away from being this core driven mostly by a single writer into a milieu in which many writers weave their own visions - and it is weird, as a long-timer, to try to understand whether Dredd is a character or a narrative vessel.

The stories that have really gripped me recently are newer concerns, and if Dredd exists as the tent-pole that holds up the entire circus then ... okay. A tent-pole covered in old flyers that cover up the chips and dents. We lean against it, taking it for granted as we watch the new acts take to the floor.

All the best,

Linton

Funt Solo that is a glorious sentiment that I share so much of. You are a magnificent man of both data and words.
: Re: Dreddverse Map
: TordelBack 17 January, 2021, 09:35:13 AM
Thanks, Funt... or Linton?  I like to think that it's your surname, and your first name is Geoff.


The Geoff Linton?

Had to look that up (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2VoHdpj2ZA) - had no idea Bob Mortimer was in the city now, yah?

But I'm like Mr. Kwesi Johnson (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uvY5qU7ayg) in terms of the placement.

How did I never realise that you're not only the legendary Funt Solo, but also the fabled Linton Porteous of Dundee. Tiny mind blown.
: Re: Dreddverse Map
: JayzusB.Christ 17 January, 2021, 10:56:10 AM
Yes, it just occurred to me too who Funt is. Some people's names stick in your head forever. But as always, TB was quicker on the draw than me.
: Re: Dreddverse Map
: Funt Solo 17 January, 2021, 04:39:36 PM
Quantum Wave Theory Time travel wibble-wobble posits that no future is set in stone because that future doesn't actually exist and is merely a possible outcome of all events that are currently in motion, and even if you collapse the waveforms into a singular observable point go into the future, it doesn't mean the future you observe will definitely exist, because once you travel back to the past, the waveforms are un-collapsed everything is in motion again and events can turn out differently.

In other words: Dredd and Anderson went to the City Of The Damned, but that wasn't how their future turned out.

This reminds me of reading New Scientist - where at some point about halfway through the article I realize that I don't understand anything because quantum physics does that to you. So, I really appreciate the translations - I can get behind time-travel wibble-wobble no problem at all.


Yes, it just occurred to me too who Funt is.

Back in the days of the olde forum software, you could change your user name at will - so I think I started out as grey_area, then I was "fate amenable to change" (yes, very much a Banks fan, and Excession is the dog's bollocks), and there was even a moment where there was a push for everyone on the board to go by their real names (something to do with putting your money where your mouth was). Then, I changed to Funt Solo in a moment of whimsy - and the software changed and the names were locked in place. I suppose it could be worse...
: Re: Dreddverse Map
: alphadogau 18 January, 2021, 01:16:23 AM
I’m a continuity nerd so I love discussion like this  :) and I really appreciate the thought process.
I agree it hard to fit th Mills-verse into this consistently. (Remember when Nemesis’ son fed a Judge to Satanus).

Strontium is also super tricky given that Nelson Bunker Kreelman (or at least someone with that name) is now part of continuity...

Should I mention Zombo, Harry Angel and Tharg now being part of the Dredd-verse or is that going too far...?
: Re: Dreddverse Map
: Funt Solo 18 January, 2021, 01:40:20 AM
Should I mention Zombo, Harry Angel and Tharg now being part of the Dredd-verse or is that going too far...?

Well spotted, that Squaxx. I'd forgotten the Zombo / Angel / Dredd crossover.

By the time you follow that back to Armoured Gideon's Book III (The Collector), which also featured Angel, you can also include (at least) the following: Bill Savage, Blackhawk, Sam Slade, Abelard Snazz, Shako, The V.C.s, MACH Zero, Wolfie Smith, Harry Twenty, Nick Stone, Dan Dare, Ace Garp, Matt Tallon, Captain Klep, Agent Rat, Robot Archie and Rick Random.

Oh, and Dredd (or a Judge) also shows up in the third book of Skizz.

Were there any judges at the party in Nikolai Dante's last outing?
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: alphadogau 18 January, 2021, 04:00:14 AM
Should I mention Zombo, Harry Angel and Tharg now being part of the Dredd-verse or is that going too far...?

Well spotted, that Squaxx. I'd forgotten the Zombo / Angel / Dredd crossover.

By the time you follow that back to Armoured Gideon's Book III (The Collector), which also featured Angel, you can also include (at least) the following: Bill Savage, Blackhawk, Sam Slade, Abelard Snazz, Shako, The V.C.s, MACH Zero, Wolfie Smith, Harry Twenty, Nick Stone, Dan Dare, Ace Garp, Matt Tallon, Captain Klep, Agent Rat, Robot Archie and Rick Random.

Oh, and Dredd (or a Judge) also shows up in the third book of Skizz.

Were there any judges at the party in Nikolai Dante's last outing?

Yes! There was a Judge(Dredd?) plus Strontium Dog, Halo Jones and Ro-Jaws.

Wasn’t there a Dan Dare annual with a Dredd strip where a bunch of character turn up?
: Re: Dreddverse Map
: Funt Solo 18 January, 2021, 06:03:07 AM
Wasn’t there a Dan Dare annual with a Dredd strip where a bunch of character turn up?

I bought that annual this summer but hadn't gotten around to reading it - until now. That's entirely wtf ... Pat Mills stars as a disgruntled droid who demands better conditions but ends up getting beaten into submission by all the characters he helped create (who are at a surprise party for Dredd on Luna-1). Not making this up.

Scanner required...

(https://i.imgur.com/rX1bBbp.png)
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: broodblik 18 January, 2021, 06:11:36 AM
Mmmmmm, maybe they know something then that we did not know today. Some kind of future-vision
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: Trooper McFad 18 January, 2021, 09:13:03 AM
That’s me just seen the map due to the TalkTalk issues

Great map Funt
: Re: Dreddverse Map
: AlexF 18 January, 2021, 09:25:12 AM
Amazing map! A very readable way to catalogue all the Dreddverse strips for sure.
Dare I suggest 'Hershey' gets its own link to Cuba on the map? Obviously most Hershey solo stories have taken place in MC1 but it's always satisfying to get more pins on a world map.

I'm intrigued to notice that Ciudad Barranquila seems to be a Buenos Aires / Montevideo conurbation. Somehow I'd always assumed it was in Mexico. That's the trouble with stories that trade in causal racism - they lack specificty! (No slight to Michael Carroll's current effort, I'm thinking more of the sugar beat)
: Re: Dreddverse Map
: JayzusB.Christ 18 January, 2021, 01:18:39 PM

Back in the days of the olde forum software, you could change your user name at will - so I think I started out as grey_area, then I was "fate amenable to change" (yes, very much a Banks fan, and Excession is the dog's bollocks), and there was even a moment where there was a push for everyone on the board to go by their real names (something to do with putting your money where your mouth was). Then, I changed to Funt Solo in a moment of whimsy - and the software changed and the names were locked in place. I suppose it could be worse...

Ah, I wouldn't have got Fate Amenable to Change, but I've read a few Banks novels in the meantime.  Me, I started as Jayzus B.Christ with spaces, and then took them out when I had login problems.  Been here 18 or 19 fecking years, if memory serves.  Definitely would go for a different board name now - I'm far less messianic than I thought I was in my 20s - but I was just too lazy to think of one and then the names were locked in place.  Ah, it'll do.

As for that multi-character Dredd strip - I haven't read it, but I do remember David Bishop absolutely eviscerating it in those in-depth analyses of Dredd strips he used to do in the Megazine.  Bit harsh, I thought, given that it was clearly a whimsical bit of fun aimed at kids and not really part of the Dredd canon.  But while I'm not sure if the art is, to quote our Dave, 'pish', I'm not at all sure about Rodney Bewes playing Johnny Alpha.

: Re: Dreddverse Map
: Funt Solo 19 January, 2021, 12:00:04 AM
Alpha:

(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/14104/production/_83708128_83708127.jpg)

Wulf:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/848988615682260995/UW8OFlv__400x400.jpg)


Starlord:

(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/640x360/p071yy3n.jpg)
: Re: Dreddverse Map
: Colin YNWA 19 January, 2021, 07:13:48 PM
Arh Funt Solo I think I forgot to say that is chuffin' genius!
: Re: Dreddverse Map
: JayzusB.Christ 20 January, 2021, 09:23:19 AM
Alpha:

(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/14104/production/_83708128_83708127.jpg)

Wulf:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/848988615682260995/UW8OFlv__400x400.jpg)


Starlord:

(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/640x360/p071yy3n.jpg)

Nailed it   :lol:
: Re: Dreddverse Map
: Colin YNWA 20 January, 2021, 11:28:32 AM
That’s me just seen the map due to the TalkTalk issues

Great map Funt

This seems to be fixed now with any luck - seen it referenced (my me and others) elsewhere so spread the word!
: Re: Dreddverse Map
: sheridan 16 March, 2021, 10:48:54 PM
Wasn’t there a Dan Dare annual with a Dredd strip where a bunch of character turn up?

I bought that annual this summer but hadn't gotten around to reading it - until now. That's entirely wtf ... Pat Mills stars as a disgruntled droid who demands better conditions but ends up getting beaten into submission by all the characters he helped create (who are at a surprise party for Dredd on Luna-1). Not making this up.

Scanner required...

(https://i.imgur.com/rX1bBbp.png)

Quick roll-call of Starlord and 2000AD characters: Mek-Quake; Hammerstein; Wulf; Johnny; Ardeni; Mr 10%; The Mekon; Starlord; Digby; Tharg; MACH Zero; Walter; Dan Dare; Suzi Cho; Blocker; Ro-Jaws (now idea who that is behind Blocker).
: Re: Dreddverse Map
: sheridan 16 March, 2021, 10:51:52 PM
The Fr1day incarnation of Rogue Trooper ends up in MC1 during Casualties of War (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=prog&page=profiles&choice=900), which inferred that world was Dredd’s future (in much the same way Strontium Dog is Dredd’s future). But there are all kinds of slight connections to other strips, some of which are extremely tenuous (such as Robo-Hunter being in Brit-Cit, albeit one significantly different from what we see elsewhere).


I think Fr1day had gone through a space, rather than time warp, though it's been decades since I read that story.


I see the Brit-Cit connection as being in name only (also mode of transport - zoom tube) - in much the same way that a story set in New York needn't be in the same 'universe' as another in a city by the same name.  There's also a map of the Pacific Ocean in a 1983 Sam Slade story which bears no relation to what we've seen in the Dreddverse.  That was old Slade which was set around 2150 or so.

: Re: Dreddverse Map
: gogilesgo 17 March, 2021, 06:42:06 AM
isn't Ciudad Barranquila on the site of present day Barranquila, on the northern coast of Colombia?

and since we are talking Latin America, Guatemala needs an entry.

Great Map.
: Re: Dreddverse Map
: IndigoPrime 17 March, 2021, 08:55:17 AM
Ciudad Barranquilla is centred on Buenos Aires.
: Re: Dreddverse Map
: sheridan 17 March, 2021, 12:53:40 PM
Now I've seen the map full-size can I make a suggestion for the next iteration?  Al's Baby is in the Historical section of Mega-City One.  Seeing as Chicago appears on the map perhaps Al's Baby should be in a historical section for The Cursed Earth instead.  I don't think we've ever seen the 22nd century version, but Chi-Town would probably count as Cursed Earth, even if it is still a city (a lá Las Vegas).
: Re: Dreddverse Map
: Funt Solo 17 March, 2021, 04:43:36 PM
Chi-Town is in Las Vegas?
: Re: Dreddverse Map
: sheridan 18 March, 2021, 08:17:01 AM
Chi-Town is in Las Vegas?

Not last time I checked?  Why do you ask?
: Re: Dreddverse Map
: Funt Solo 18 March, 2021, 02:09:40 PM
Chi-Town is in Las Vegas?

Not last time I checked?  Why do you ask?

Oh Grud! I was being super-dense. I've always had this mental block for Chicago where I get it muddled up with Manhatten, so I got confused by your post and thought that you were saying Chi-Town was set in Las Vegas.

All through my life I keep having to re-learn Chicago's actual location - plus the correct spelling of resteraunt restaurant.
: Re: Dreddverse Map
: sheridan 18 March, 2021, 10:18:12 PM
Chi-Town is in Las Vegas?

Not last time I checked?  Why do you ask?

Oh Grud! I was being super-dense. I've always had this mental block for Chicago where I get it muddled up with Manhatten, so I got confused by your post and thought that you were saying Chi-Town was set in Las Vegas.

All through my life I keep having to re-learn Chicago's actual location - plus the correct spelling of resteraunt restaurant.

Nah - I was saying that in the 22nd century, Chicago / Chi-Town would be in the Cursed Earth, like Las Vegas (as we saw in 2100's Cursed Earth).  Stirling work on the map, btw.
: Re: Dreddverse Map
: Funt Solo 19 March, 2021, 04:37:07 AM
Here you go, Sheridan [still best viewed magnified in a new tab]:

(https://i.imgur.com/6nShcs9.png)

I've moved the boxes around a bit for more visual balance, and added Hershey to the Barranquilla box. The gap in the bottom right I think could do some justice to the idea of crossover stories - but in a limited way. Maybe folk can help here, but I know there are tenuous connections to at least the following:

- Fr1day
- Strontium Dog
- Flesh
- The ABC Warriors
- Savage
- Nemesis

What else could I put there, and what would be a good title for that section?
: Re: Dreddverse Map
: sheridan 19 March, 2021, 08:17:54 AM
Here you go, Sheridan [still best viewed magnified in a new tab]:

(https://i.imgur.com/6nShcs9.png)

I've moved the boxes around a bit for more visual balance, and added Hershey to the Barranquilla box. The gap in the bottom right I think could do some justice to the idea of crossover stories - but in a limited way. Maybe folk can help here, but I know there are tenuous connections to at least the following:

- Fr1day
- Strontium Dog
- Flesh
- The ABC Warriors
- Savage
- Nemesis

What else could I put there, and what would be a good title for that section?

Excellent!

Both Flesh Book I and Nemesis the Warlock Book I take place in and around London (because Old One Eye's fossils are discovered when a line of the London Underground is being excavated, and the aliens are hidden in the forbidden levels - i.e. the London Underground again - specifically Waterloo - before being shipped away from Termight).