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Messages - JOE SOAP

#14911
General / Re: 1505
12 September, 2006, 03:28:39 AM
>It just seems anachronistic to have something that is essentially about the future, to be innately named after the past...

Not when it's an established publication with 1505 progs under it's belt and well established characters.

You can consider the title to mean life after 2000AD which can still mean the future, depends on your perception of it, not how someone sells it to you.

I mean Star Wars sounds like a crap, hokey 70's sci-fi title to me but I can't imagine those films being called anything else, the original films get away with it now because they were good and different & higly enjoyable, the new ones don't cos' they're crap.

Should the league of extraordinary gentlemen be called something else because no one titles heroic team-ups in a wordy, victorian type english anymore?

2000AD is not strictly about the future & when it's stories are in a futuristic setting they aren't usually concerned with predition or a "we're all going to live this way someday" attitude. They're just stories of human interest or crazy possibilities. If someone really belived all humans would end up living under a misogynistic theocracy like in Nemesis, I would consifer them mad but as a story it's enjoyable, entertaining & thought provoking. A mad possibility.

2000AD is fiction not fact. Don't take the title literally, that's not what it's meant for.
#14912
General / Re: 1505
11 September, 2006, 12:57:25 AM
>4000AD

My final offer

Ha, no way, tooth' or nothin'.
#14913
General / Re: 1505
10 September, 2006, 07:45:29 AM
>I really think Rebellion missed a trick re-branding the comic in the year 2000.

Do you honestly think it would make a difference if they changed the name? A comic like 2000AD doesn't represent the future, it's relevance is not about prediction but interpretation, the alternative etc.

I think your conception of the comic is misguided. People won't stop buying it because of what it's currently called. To change the name to something as lame as 3000AD is such a trivial thing it's not worth doing.
#14914
General / Re: 1505
09 September, 2006, 11:54:29 PM
>Future generations might not get "2000AD" as a title meaning "The Future" - but not being a future generation myself means I've the luxury of not having to give a rat's arse.

2000AD is not made for future generations or generations in general, it's a weekly comic that's lasted "presently" for 30 years, for fans

I'm 31 and couldn't give a hoot who "gets it" because there are always people who get it and people who don't, no matter what generation they belong to. So I'm not worried about generations since nothing can appeal to everyone.

 A generation is considered 30 years, tooth' has lasted that long -Batman & spiderman have both lasted more than one generation without much of a character -or even name- change why not tooth'?
#14915
General / Re: 1505
09 September, 2006, 06:42:04 PM
>How can the future be exciting when you've grown up with personal com links and splasma tellies? I pity these young people and those who haven't even been born yet.

I really don't think that matters when the stories are well drawn & written, I feel it's an easy, wrong and lazy attitude. 2000AD is the antidote to superhero comic junk and there is always an audience for that. Please don't patronise the upcoming generations, it's too easy and old curmudgeons do it.
#14916
General / Re: 1505
09 September, 2006, 06:05:51 PM
>it shows confidence that the thing will still be around in 1000 years.

A bit of a ridiculous and unrealistic reason to change the name. And since you mention it, would it not be better if it was still called 2000AD in a 1000 years. A tradition?

Because the actual year has gone is such a trivial reason to change the title, so why bother. You would lose more than you gain as we now see that 2000AD is not just a year but an ideal.
#14917
General / Re: 1505
09 September, 2006, 06:36:22 AM
>2000ad is the name of the comic, simple as that.
To have changed it would have (IMO) shown a lack of confidence in the comic itself (lets face it - a title is just a title!)

To begin with it was just a title but it's hard to deny that over 30 years it has, like a lot of art, grown to mean more.
#14918
General / Re: 1505
09 September, 2006, 05:58:47 AM
>I just wonder if the number "2000" makes it seem impenetrable and old-hat to potential newer readers?

Yeah, should have re-named it 3000ad (or something) and relaunched when the year 2000ad came and went.

2000ad is the past.


No, they shouldn't rename it, 2000AD is fine, The name represents the idea or ideal of a new millenium which we are now living in, so it fits perfectly. 2000AD was, a lot of the time, a comment on our own present.

The stories are set mostly -particularly Dredd- in this millenium not the next, with exceptions of course but the dominant theme or context in 2000AD is fiction that represents or reflects our times. When 2000AD was launched first the actual year was just over 20 years away. It represented a vision of the future with many different facets but still close to our own.

To rename it 3000AD is just silly, why destroy an appreciated & recognisable name?
#14919
General / Re: what is really in that box !.....
08 September, 2006, 04:30:13 AM
>Why did the muties go to such lengths to evade the judges when they were delivering it to the grand hall anyway?

Because they wanted to leave the box. get out of the city without being arrested & back to the cursed earth.
#14920
General / Re: what is really in that box !.....
07 September, 2006, 03:56:20 AM
>I think the whole judge system was created on a myth and in reality the first judges were ex-cops or suchlike that took to power and created, via Fargo their own brand of justice, dismissing a democratic system that could have existed.

Isn't this what happened anyway?
#14921
Off Topic / Re: Rings Chess - building each fo...
10 November, 2007, 03:27:01 PM
***the Star Wars official figurine collection. getting abit pissed off with it now as it does seem to be going on forever. ***


What did you expect? good ol' George to hand out free stuff?
#14922
Website and Forum / Re: New Poll: Is it time to bring ...
06 September, 2006, 04:51:10 AM
A design classic that needs to return from publishing wilderness.
#14923
General / Re: Return of the Mean Team..........
05 September, 2006, 04:23:07 AM
>loathesome story, all of us should get free surgery from Rebellion to remove any memory of it ever having existed.

C'mon, there was worse shit in the 90's progs.
#14924
General / Re: Artie Gruber
05 September, 2006, 02:58:08 AM
>If it was left open, I guess he could still be wandering around the Big Meg...

Hope so.
#14925
General / Re: Things I'd like to see during ...
08 September, 2006, 04:33:38 AM
>The desire to leave the helmet on becomes a genetic trait which is passed down to Young Master Dredd.

What gene(s) would be responsible for that?