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#10321
General / Re: 2000ad and music
09 December, 2002, 06:14:25 AM
Can't beat a bit of Kraftwerk for nice German proto-techno so clean you could eat your dinner off it. 'Komputer-lieben!'
Next stop, das Zentrum in Stuttgart! Get a room, funboys!
#10322
General / Re: 2000ad and music
07 December, 2002, 07:33:58 PM
'There was also that brief flirtation with 'lad' culture in the 90's, too'.
I don't know if you remember, but I once asked David Bishop about that on this board. Fair fux to him, he gave me a very detailed and honest account of that particular era (including his own calculatedly laddish Loaded interview, which I believe boosted sales, and the sad 'Women just don't get it' Loaded ad that he was very much opposed to.) I'm looking forward to reading more about it in TPO myself, and at the time, the Bish seemed to be looking forward to writing it.  
#10323
General / Re: 2000ad and music
06 December, 2002, 09:28:27 PM
'Liking 2000ad in a sort of retrospective, nostalgic way Is generally considered pretty "cool" these days. Actually reading the damn thing isn't, and probably never will be. '

Truth be told, I actually think 2000ad right now is better than it has been for years. I was only wondering whether it still has an influence on musicians or music. And I was kind of having a larf by using the word 'cool', but I suppose it didn't really come across well in writing. Ah well.
#10324
General / Re: 2000ad and music
06 December, 2002, 09:03:25 PM
I remember seeing Transvision Vamp live when I was about 16.  Mmm, nice. Wendy james also used to drink at my local pub now and again, but I never met her there. Where is she now? Right, a Google search, i think...
#10325
General / 2000ad and music
06 December, 2002, 07:49:47 PM
As I dimly recall,in the 80's there used to be loads of bands advocating the joys of 2000ad either within its pages or on vinyl. Most were of a metal or gothic ilk such as Anthrax, Motorhead, Alien Sex Fiend, The Cure etc., but also the likes of Madness were proclaiming their love of Thrill Power.  
Would I be right in saying you just don't see that kind of thing any more? I think 'trendy' Tharg never quite got the acid house / rave crowd he was chillin' wit at in the late 80's / early 90's, and after that in the mid-90's 2000ad started catering more for the TV sci-fi (X-Files, Babylon 5) audiences. Personally, i believe it didn't need to; it had its own identity. Although by then, maybe it had lost that identity.
So is still 2000ad cool or what? Was it ever? Does it still have that popular culture / music cross-over appeal that I'm just too old to appreciate these days? Or am I just spouting shite?
#10326
Off Topic / Re: Let's all help poor sad Gary.....
07 December, 2002, 08:55:22 PM
Actually, i don't think that sentence makes sense. You may cease applauding.
#10327
Off Topic / Re: Let's all help poor sad Gary.....
07 December, 2002, 08:53:45 PM
'And on a seperate note,I just remembered Kevin Spacey... '
I propose that Kevin Spacey and Gary Oldman each manage to single-handedly rescue both their Christian names respectively.
Thank you, you may applaud now.
#10328
Off Topic / Re: Let's all help poor sad Gary.....
06 December, 2002, 07:53:04 PM
'Daughter, actually. His son's called Dweezil.'

Ah, well that's alright, then.
#10329
Off Topic / Re: Let's all help poor sad Gary.....
06 December, 2002, 07:33:51 PM
'Somebody who couldn't see the wood for the trees, that's who... '

Ohhhhhhh, you vicious bastid.
The saddest thing is, last I heard Mark's son was in a hip-hop band called 'Rolan Bolan and the Brotherhood of Bounce'. It's not something to be proud of, Roly boy.
And Zowie Bowie (who inspired the name Rolan Bolan) is now called Joe Bowie. I thought Zowie was alright.
What about Bob Geldof's daughter, Fifi Trixabelle? And Frank Zappa's son Moon Unit? You're LUCKY you're called Gary.
#10330
Off Topic / Re: Let's all help poor sad Gary.....
06 December, 2002, 06:36:58 PM
True.  Still, though, he did better than the Bolan lad's own son, Rolan.
#10331
Off Topic / Re: Let's all help poor sad Gary.....
06 December, 2002, 06:22:11 PM
Jethro?
YEEEEEEE-HAAAAAA!
My mate's mother was unsure whether to call him after Mark Bolan or another obscure singer called Colin somethin-or-other. Bolan lost.
#10332
Off Topic / Re: Let's all help poor sad Gary.....
06 December, 2002, 06:12:02 PM
Nicely quoted, Gary:
'GGGAAARRRYYY GGIIILLLLMORRRRE'S EYYYES!!!', if I'm not mistaken.
But we're forgetting about the very pinnacle of cool: Gareth Keenan from The Office!
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#10333
General / Re: Is 2000AD anti-religion..........
07 December, 2002, 10:33:47 PM
No worries, (cough)twat(cough). (Only joking, again.)
Consider this a virtual handshake.
#10334
General / Re: Is 2000AD anti-religion..........
07 December, 2002, 10:18:23 PM
'You don't seem to know much about Christianity either- you went on to have a go at Catholicism.'

Fair point; I spoke a bit rashly - although I actually do know quite a bit about Christianity, having had over the last few years an active interest in Christianity's history as a subject, and having read a lot about its foundations, ascent to power, reformations / divisions and geographical dispersal. I don't really believe in attacking things I know nothing about.
I realise I should have specified that it was the Irish Catholicism's abuse of power I was speaking against, rather than just Christianity. I apologise for that.
 Catholicism is the branch of Christianity I was brought up with, and am most familiar with. My resentment lies in the fact that the Catholic church in Ireland had until recently power beyond lay people, and many Catholic leaders abused it by conspiring to cover up crimes. I realise I would not have the freedom to say the same thing in a strict Muslim country, but I say why not actually use that freedom to speak against what you are opposed to? What I am opposed to is not people having Catholic or Christian beliefs of any kind, but the hierarchy itself abusing power. I don't mind what people believe, Christian, Muslim, pagan or whatever, as long as it doesn't harm other people.
And I believe I did point out that many Catholic clergy were good people; but I am happy to see the criminals amongst them (which I remember calling SOME, not all clergy) being rooted out. I don't like to see ANY organisation so powerful it remains above the law, not least one that hides behind religion.

I may have worded my last post wrongly, and I have apologised.  Maybe blatant attacks on Christianity are not constructive, but in this country, Christianity's most common form by far is the Catholic hierarchy, and freedom to attack it lessens its power, which I think is a step forward.  For what it's worth, i know people personally who have been physically harmed by that power; perhaps that's why my last post was written rashly. I really do respect everyone's religious beliefs.
 
In any case, I really don't think calling me a 'twat' contributes to decent debate.
#10335
General / Re: Is 2000AD anti-religion..........
07 December, 2002, 03:18:28 AM
'Who was it who said inside every revolutionary there is a policeman trying to get out?'
Same punter who said 'every homosexual is a repressed nazi', no doubt. (This does not necessarily represent my own views, mind you.) For what it's worth, I'm still glad when I see Christianity attacked (I don't know enough about other religions to say the same about them). As I said before, some of the Catholic hierarchy leaders here until quite recently considered themselves above the law, and usually found that they were right. Now their numerous crimes of abuse and conspiracy are being exposed (although often still unpunished by law), their power has become seriously threatened, and I personally welcome anything, even cheap and simplistic jibes, that speeds their fall downwards. If they can't be jailed for covering up crimes, I'm happy to see them disgraced and ridiculed for it. That said, there are a lot of good people within the hierarchy, but hopefully they will not have to associate with criminals any more.
Well, that's my tuppenceworth.