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Title: Simon Davis or Sean Phillips - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 29
Post by: Colin YNWA on 10 June, 2021, 06:25:58 AM
Simon Davis is one of those artists that has a definitive strip, one that he will always be remembered for in 2000ad fanlore. In his case its Sinister Dexter... no hang on .... In his case its revitalising Slaine artistically with the Brutan... no, no, hold on that's not right... in his case its introducing folk horror in modern classic Thistlebo... damnit. Simon Davis is one of those artists that has done so much classic work it's impossible to single out one strip over another. No wonder he was a semi-finalist in the Current Tourney.

Sean Phillips has become one of the great artists working in modern American crime comic having hit after hit with Ed Brub... WE DON'T F@~*in' CARE. We're only interested in work for Tharg ... mind when that includes Swimming in Blood the fella ain't got much to worry about!

Time for you to decide your favourite as the droids square up to the tee...

Simon Davis - more info (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=droid&page=profiles&choice=simond)

OR

Sean Phillips - more info (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=droid&page=profiles&choice=SEANP)

Remember for this tourney you have 5 votes to distribute as you please between these two artists, whole numbers only. So you can vote 5 - 0; 4 - 1; or 3 - 2; either way depending on how much more you like one artist's work over the other.

If you can't be doing with that just name your favourite - remember bold tags, or other ways of highlighting always appreciated - and I'll give them 3 votes and nowt to the other droid.

Three day votes, so this one ends morning of Sunday 13th June

Remember we only consider work for Tharg in these Tourneys

What the heck is all this about - well we have a thread for that (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=47534.0)

How does this new voting work?  Look here (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=47534.msg1059536#msg1059536) and why again? (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=47534.msg1059557#msg1059557)

I don't understand how this works, what are the rules of the Ryder Cup - yep got ya covered there too (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=47534.msg1059595#msg1059595)

Anything else just ask and I'll make something up. Most importantly have fun!
Title: Re: Simon Davis or Sean Phillips - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 29
Post by: broodblik on 10 June, 2021, 06:34:53 AM
Simon Davis 5 Sean Philips 0
Title: Re: Simon Davis or Sean Phillips - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 29
Post by: Tomwe on 10 June, 2021, 06:42:41 AM
Simon Davis - 4

Sean Phillips -1
Title: Re: Simon Davis or Sean Phillips - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 29
Post by: rogue69 on 10 June, 2021, 08:37:45 AM
Simon Davis 5 Sean Philips 0
Title: Re: Simon Davis or Sean Phillips - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 29
Post by: Magnetica on 10 June, 2021, 08:38:03 AM
Another one sided match up for me.

Davis 5 nil.
Title: Re: Simon Davis or Sean Phillips - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 29
Post by: AlexF on 10 June, 2021, 09:29:02 AM
Phillips didn't have a huge impact on the Prog - the outrageous weirdness of Danzig's Inferno aside - but he was a truly big deal in the early days of the Meg: Armitage, Devlin Waugh, some awesome covers - did he even design the original logo? I mean, Davis is going to win partly on sheer volume of work, and also that he's bloody good at it, but let's not dismiss the one that got away...

Davis: 3, Phillips: 2
Title: Re: Simon Davis or Sean Phillips - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 29
Post by: sintec on 10 June, 2021, 09:53:56 AM
I absolutely love Simon's work it, it's consitently brilliant stuff. Swimming In Blood is an underniable classic but can't stand up against the string of hits Davis has delivered us

Davis 4 : Philips 1
Title: Re: Simon Davis or Sean Phillips - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 29
Post by: Dog Deever on 10 June, 2021, 10:37:13 AM
Davis 4 Philips 1
Title: Re: Simon Davis or Sean Phillips - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 29
Post by: Sean SD on 10 June, 2021, 01:00:25 PM
Davis 4 - Philips 1
Title: Re: Simon Davis or Sean Phillips - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 29
Post by: SmallBlueThing(Reborn) on 10 June, 2021, 02:11:32 PM
Time to admit stuff. I'm not a huge fan of Simon Davis' work. Even his Sinister Dexter. So, I have to give this to Sean Phillips 5-0.

SBT
Title: Re: Simon Davis or Sean Phillips - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 29
Post by: The Mind of Wolfie Smith on 10 June, 2021, 10:32:13 PM
always believed crisis (ezquerra, baikie, mills, smith etc) to be tharg moonlighting as a grown-up ...

so, given this, it's 5-0 to sean.
Title: Re: Simon Davis or Sean Phillips - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 29
Post by: abelardsnazz on 10 June, 2021, 11:51:30 PM
Simon's painted work is nothing short of awesome. But Sean co-created Devlin Waugh.

Simon Davis 3, Sean Phillips 2.
Title: Re: Simon Davis or Sean Phillips - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 29
Post by: Rogue Judge on 11 June, 2021, 02:31:12 AM
Simon Davis 1, Sean Phillips 4

I prefer Phillips, and he's endorsed by Judge Pal!
Title: Re: Simon Davis or Sean Phillips - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 29
Post by: BPP on 11 June, 2021, 07:07:48 AM
4-1 Davis - still the ultimate SinDex artist, indeed the strip has never come close to the heights since he left.
Title: Re: Simon Davis or Sean Phillips - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 29
Post by: milstar on 11 June, 2021, 11:04:19 AM
Phillips 4
Davis 1

Davis has his style and drew some iconic moments, but Phillips and Brubaker are killing combination.
Title: Re: Simon Davis or Sean Phillips - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 29
Post by: BPP on 11 June, 2021, 11:24:38 AM
Quote from: milstar on 11 June, 2021, 11:04:19 AM
Phillips 4
Davis 1

Davis has his style and drew some iconic moments, but Phillips and Brubaker are killing combination.

So your vote don't count as it's only work for Tharg. Good good
Title: Re: Simon Davis or Sean Phillips - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 29
Post by: milstar on 11 June, 2021, 02:53:03 PM
Quote from: BPP on 11 June, 2021, 11:24:38 AM
Quote from: milstar on 11 June, 2021, 11:04:19 AM
Phillips 4
Davis 1

Davis has his style and drew some iconic moments, but Phillips and Brubaker are killing combination.

So your vote don't count as it's only work for Tharg. Good good

What's the difference? I take all artists' work as whole.

Title: Re: Simon Davis or Sean Phillips - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 29
Post by: Colin YNWA on 11 June, 2021, 03:23:28 PM
Quote from: milstar on 11 June, 2021, 02:53:03 PM
Quote from: BPP on 11 June, 2021, 11:24:38 AM
Quote from: milstar on 11 June, 2021, 11:04:19 AM
Phillips 4
Davis 1

Davis has his style and drew some iconic moments, but Phillips and Brubaker are killing combination.

So your vote don't count as it's only work for Tharg. Good good

What's the difference? I take all artists' work as whole.

We ask for these tourneys that you only consider work for Tharg - and go into what that might or might not mean in the 'rules'. Don't stress it as its hard to do - mind for me I will steadfastly be ignoring Sean's work with Brubaker so I stick to my own rules!
Title: Re: Simon Davis or Sean Phillips - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 29
Post by: milstar on 11 June, 2021, 06:25:08 PM
Maybe I "misphrased" myself here, I love Sean's brief work on Judge Dredd and Megazine, on which he also drew amazing painted covers, but I had to mention his run on Criminal and the rest.
Title: Re: Simon Davis or Sean Phillips - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 29
Post by: BPP on 11 June, 2021, 07:44:11 PM
The Davis Appreciation Society and the Association of Lovers of Artists Drawing Themselves Into Comics lodges an official appeal with the rules committee.
Title: Re: Simon Davis or Sean Phillips - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 29
Post by: Colin YNWA on 11 June, 2021, 08:05:45 PM
Quote from: BPP on 11 June, 2021, 07:44:11 PM
The Davis Appreciation Society and the Association of Lovers of Artists Drawing Themselves Into Comics lodges an official appeal with the rules committee.

The rule committee nervously looks from side to side, a cold sweat just breaking out on his forehead... 7 tourney's and 1027 votes* and there's been no call on them. They were outside having a tab and then popped in to watch the footie and were expecting this... they look at the voting... feel a bit more relaxed and declare the vote carries in its present form...

... there'll be a sleeply night before counting but it shouldn't make a difference...

*Please note the Rules Committee hasn't checked any of the numbers and are pulling them out their arse
Title: Re: Simon Davis or Sean Phillips - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 29
Post by: Colin YNWA on 11 June, 2021, 08:09:35 PM
They've also made reference VAR and VAR confirms that Milstar wasn't looking at any Image Comics at the time the vote was cast and a copy of GGC was staples width closer to the voter at the time than the nearest copy of Fatale and so they confirm the on ... err... committee decision...
Title: Re: Simon Davis or Sean Phillips - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 29
Post by: paddykafka on 11 June, 2021, 08:16:04 PM
Davis Academical (2) Phillips Athletic (3)
Title: Re: Simon Davis or Sean Phillips - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 29
Post by: BPP on 11 June, 2021, 08:51:27 PM
President Trump is expected to be making a statement on this rigged election..
Title: Re: Simon Davis or Sean Phillips - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 29
Post by: Colin YNWA on 12 June, 2021, 06:40:33 AM
The Rule Committee have asked that I box this one off quickly so they can put it behin... I mean this one closes in the morning so get your votes in.

As for me I adore Sean Phillips work on SWIMMING FOR BLOOD... not Sleeper or Kill or be Killed which I'm not considering there and I can't ignore that. However Simon Davis... well. Funnily enough I love Sinister Dexter but its his work on other strips, even one's I'm not keen on like Slaine that really shine for me and Thistlebone feels like a strip built on his talents. So:

Simon Davis 4 : Sean Phillips 1
Title: Re: Simon Davis or Sean Phillips - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 29
Post by: broodblik on 12 June, 2021, 06:49:46 AM
Always remember they best way to count votes is to count until your candidate has the most, math 101
Title: Re: Simon Davis or Sean Phillips - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 29
Post by: BPP on 12 June, 2021, 08:25:02 AM
One of the things I love about Davis is when he paints a foreground face hyper detailed then draws the face in the background like a simple emoticon. It cracks me up the disparity between the two techniques. Ampney Crucis did this loads with butler Eddie.
Title: Re: Simon Davis or Sean Phillips - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 29
Post by: DrJomster on 12 June, 2021, 01:10:10 PM
Davis 3 - Philips 2

Good point about Devlin above though. Great work there.
Title: Re: Simon Davis or Sean Phillips - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 29
Post by: Colin YNWA on 13 June, 2021, 06:55:39 AM
VOTING CLOSED

Well controversial rulings aside this one has been quite straightforward. Sean Phillips was just getting going when he was a presense in the Prog. Even so he prooduced some stunning work. Simon Davis however has grown and blossomed in front of us, though to be fair he started pretty damned good and he stormed this one.

Overall it ties things up and in doing so confirms that we will be going into the final week with this as an open competition. Bloomin' heck this is getting exciting and is MUCH closer than I ever imagined it would be!

Current Team 14.5 : Classic Team 14.5

Current Team 1309 : Classic Team 1330