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Announcements / Re: 2000 AD - The Ultimate Collection
« on: Today at 05:31:27 PM »
*looks wearily at 2012 Marvel partwork*

I see Hachette has the next three volumes listed, and I’m now really glad I got out. Brass Sun is 116—a great strip, but unfinished and in a format here that won’t best the existing Rebellion hardcover I own. A first volume of Mean Arena, which means that will span more than one book. And then angry Gronk is on the cover of Strontium Dogs Vol 2 (#118), reminding me about a very specific series nadir under Ennis. Oh well. Looking forward to seeing what issue 119 brings…

Announcements / Re: 2000 AD - The Ultimate Collection
« on: Today at 03:36:50 PM »
Good grief. If that’s the case, on the plus side it makes Armoured Gideon more likely. On the flip side, I’m bloody glad I dropped my sub.

Prog / Re: Prog 2265: Worlds at War
« on: Today at 02:48:15 PM »
if things had changed in the 50s  for Hampson and Baxendale, or the 80s for Wagner, Mills and Moore, would the comics industry (if not necessarily 2000AD) be healthier?
Possibly. Some sort of co-ownership might have helped more talent stick around. But if we purely look at British comics, the industry would still have to have dealt with the Americans and their money, major shifts in the entertainment industry (including video games and access to streaming telly), where comics sit in society (probably the one most likely to succeed of more independent creativity came to the fore) and the very real problem of people en masse understanding they need to pay for quality content.

I get the concerns about fresh blood, but it’s not like 2000 AD doesn’t have new writers and artists coming through. As for Mills, I suspect what he says often says more about him than “the industry”. WFH reduces reward but also reduces risk. I’m WFH. I work hard, and that gets me more work. I’ve arguably become more despondent about indie things, because I’ve worked just as hard on those and made fuck all, regardless of objective quality.

Again, I agree with the nature of the way too many series are produced (something that, frankly, Mills has also long been guilty of). Series should work as standalone entities. Plot threads might dangle and you might want more, but you should be able to read a series of any strip and not feel like you were missing the beginning and didn’t get an end of some kind.

Wiki reckons it ran through 1982. Assuming you can get three years per book (as in IV) and the frequency/page count remained broadly the same, that would suggest two more books would do it.

I didn't think it'd be as one sided as this
As much as I like Armoured Gideon, I think it helps that Balls Brothers was objectively a bit shit. Nice enough art, but not a Wagner high point, to say the least.

Prog / Re: Prog 2265: Worlds at War
« on: 27 January, 2022, 07:59:34 PM »
WFH is a bit chicken and egg though - is the shrinkage of the industry causing WFH, or has WFH shrunk the industry? Is it a vicious circle of each driving the other?
From my vantage point, I’d say the main issue is fewer people buying stuff reduced the amount of money within certain industries, forcing specific decisions to be made. Publishing has been very hard hit, with a lot of people thinking they should get everything for nothing, without stopping to think what that means.

Mills asserts that if 2000 AD left rights with creators, the mag would flourish and be full of breathtaking new ideas. I suspect it would be the death-knell for a comic that in part relies on reprint as part of its business model. As for whether 2000 AD would be in a different place now had the business model changed earlier, who knows? Ultimately, money talks. I suspect most of the creators who buggered off would still have done so, purely on the basis that the Americans have a shit-ton more money.

Currently, three stories out of five are deep in book X of their respective potentially infinite runs
TBF, it’s not like most of these strips have been around forever. Proteus Vex is in, what, its third run? I don’t recall how many Kingmaker has had, but it only kicked off in 2017. There is, I agree, a modern tendency to write stories out in books rather than satisfying standalone chunks, and that is something I’d like 2000 AD to address a little more: learn from the book of Abnett, basically.

Film & TV / Re: The Book of Boba Fett
« on: 27 January, 2022, 10:40:27 AM »
Unless he plans on decapitating all his future bounties?

Not sure where he’d keep even those. One per trip, in his lap? He’s just not thought this through. Tsk. Boys and fast cars, eh?

I can see the future and the future states a whitewash is on the hands
Nah. There’s always one contrary bugger.

Ichabod Azrael

Oh my. What a pairing. Button Man.

General / Re: Forthcoming Thrills - 2022
« on: 26 January, 2022, 10:02:48 PM »
The older I get, the less I like Dr & Quinch. But. A *Jamie Smart* full-on anarchy Dr & Quinch in Regened…

Off Topic / Re: The Political Thread
« on: 26 January, 2022, 02:21:41 PM »
With Johnson, it is quite something what people are willing to forgive. It does feel like the sheer level of “I don’t give a shit about you plebs” has had some cut-through, but there’s still a very stubborn 30% of the population that is now clearly core right-wing Tory, and probably up to another 10% that would support the party in a GE. My hope remains that the Libs will strengthen in core support areas and Labour will do enough that we’ll end up with 300 Labour MPs and a rump of Libs that can somehow force Labour’s hand on PR. I suspect I’ll be disappointed in some way either by Labour kicking the shit out of the Libs come the GE, rather than doing a 1997-style non-aggression thing, or in Labour getting a majority (and thereby kicking PR into the sea) or a minority and demanding others do its bidding by saying it’ll otherwise be their fault if we end up with a further GE and Tory govt.

Mind you, even the ‘good’ scenario there is two years away, during which time these arseholes in power will do as much damage as they can.

Books & Comics / Re: Whats everyone reading?
« on: 26 January, 2022, 02:16:50 PM »
I just finished both volumes of The Golden Age, by Cyril Pedrosa and Roxanne Moreil, translated from the original French (L’âge d’or). The entire tale is available in two luxurious hardcover volumes, and immerses you in a medical saga filled with backstabbing and peppered with the fantastical. The story itself is really good (and, in one area, very French), but the thing that really stands out is the art. I think it’s quite possibly the most beautiful comic strip I’ve ever read, with many pages feeling like proper works of art. I mean, look at this:

Anyway, get these before they’re gone. And if you’re interested in the people behind it, there’s a video interview with them here: https://www.europecomics.com/golden-age-interview-cyril-pedrosa-roxanne-moreil/

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