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Anybody seen it yet?

I'm really unhappy with what I've seen as a fan of Will Eisner's Spirit but was wondering if anybody of a similar frameof mind had had a chance to see this yet and ould give me hope that it was an 'God damn good'?

Thought it was pretty rubbish. At its heart there was the potential for a good story but a Russel T so often does that gets lost in the need to make thinks BIGGER, BOLDER and MORE DRAMATIC then there is a need for.

That said as my wife pointed out kids would have loved it??? As she did. I figure it might have been a hit for its core audience?

"2) make sure Danny Cannon gets nowhere near any sequel."

You know, he was pretty young to be put in charge of that film which had more problems than guy who'd only made one film before.  Now, a mere 13 years later, he's a well respected director.  

What I'm trying to say is, Judge Dredd (1995) wasn't his fault.  Let it go...

In fact while I'm no fan of that 1995 bit of guff there's a bit of me that thinks he'd be a great choice. As said in 1995 he was young and therefore didn't have the confidence to resist all the other people's ideas flying in from all directions. 13 years have gone and I'd dare to venture who better than the man who knows what went wrong last time to make sure it doesn't happen again? He's a big fan and from the stuff I read knows exactly what he'd do differently this time and I like what he says.

Don't for one minute think it will happen as I don't think he'd want to go back (????) but as long as its a remake why not.

Personally and again completely accepting its not going to happen I'd love love love to see the Coen Brothers giving it a go. Man they'd do a great job in my mind. Elsewhere in my dream land Terru Gilliam is directing Nemesis... well I man can dream

Heavens to mergatrode just seen this and this could be so good and yet so bad. We'll wait and see. Still it'll hopefully soften the blow when I see the Spirit which I've all but given up hope on.

Dude, you plan on moping about The Spirit for three years?

Yeah I've been reading the message boards over at Newsarama to get into good old nerdy not letting go shape.

Mope for a few months after the movie promising to never read anything by Frank Miller again.

Just as I'm getting over that and moving on with my life the DVD will come out. Just to reinvigorate my moping.

Then maybe things will settle down for a while and I'll whine about something Marvel have done for a while. Then in about three years time it'll come on regular telly and there's me moping again.

Think I can stretch it. After all its a fanboy tradition to take these things too seriously!

Heavens to mergatrode just seen this and this could be so good and yet so bad. We'll wait and see. Still it'll hopefully soften the blow when I see the Spirit which I've all but given up hope on.

Without wishing to derail this tread did you also notice that Moss named one of his 'children' Zenith. Given the number of comic references in this show (they had a Buddy Baddley doll on Roy's desk a while back) I took this as a 2000ad reference... I might be reading too much into these things!

Have to say I think I'm the only person who has very fond memories of 'Muppets Tonight' (well me and my friend Paul who I used to watch it with)

I think it was fantastic and moments where absolutel genius. I wish they'd bring it out on DVD so people could reaccess, well those that would go anywhere near it!

Very similar topic to be found here

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And here's what I said on that one

Well there's the rub isn't in. My LCS actually had the good grace to DROP their prices when the dollar lost value against the pound. People are talking as though a $1.50 pound is some kinda of record level. Its not at all. $2 to the pound has been the exception. So anyway Sheffield Space Centre have only been charging £1.90 for a $2.99 book, dropped from £2.15. Now then up the road at Forbidden Planet when the dollar plunged no price drop so there you've paid £2.15 all the time.

Now then if your honest comic shop like Sheffield Space Centre now has to raise prices by 30p due to the drop in the pound that will take the cost to £2.20. No real problem there. What will of course be very intersting is whether Forbidden Planet hike the price to £2.45 or as one might image £2.50.

Regardless of the economics this tells me Sheffield Space Centre is a shop I can trust and when they put the prices up its a fair kop. Forbidden Planet aren't. At least from my simple reading of matters.

Sooooo what I'm saying is if you shop around you might find somewhere that you can trust and whatever you're paying at least you know its the going rate. Therefore if a book is $3.99 and whatever thats translates to in pounds if its a good book I'll buy it from my LCS. It will mean I think harder about whether a book is worth it - and a number of Marvel comics are being dropped this Saturday when I'm next in the store.

Oh that or switch to internet/postal ordering that seems to save people a bit. I just like supporting my LCS. Trade Waiting is another option. I do that with Daredevil as I think it read better this way and have to say it save money and is kinda cool.

Favourite Cover of 2008 (2000ad)
1. 1592
2. 1609
3. 1567

Favourite Artist of 2008
1. Simon Fraser
2. Steve Yeowell
3. Carlos Ezquerra
 
Favourite Writer of 2008
1. Robbie Morrison
2. Dan Abnett
3. John Wagner

Favourite Judge Dredd Series of 2008
1. Road Stop
2. The Edgar Case
3.

Favourite Continuing Series of 2008
1. Shakara
2. Kingdom
3. Nikolai Dante

Favourite New Series of 2008
1. Ampney Crucius Investigates
2. Stalag 666
3.

2000ad Moment of the year

End of Amerika

Character or Series You'd like to see return in 2009

Never happen but Nemesis

Well there's the rub isn't in. My LCS actually had the good grace to DROP their prices when the dollar lost value against the pound. People are talking as though a $1.50 pound is some kinda of record level. Its not at all. $2 to the pound has been the exception. So anyway Sheffield Space Centre have only been charging £1.90 for a $2.99 book, dropped from £2.15. Now then up the road at Forbidden Planet when the dollar plunged no price drop so there you've paid £2.15 all the time.

Now then if your honest comic shop like Sheffield Space Centre now has to raise prices by 30p due to the drop in the pound that will take the cost to £2.20. No real problem there. What will of course be very intersting is whether Forbidden Planet hike the price to £2.45 or as one might image £2.50.

Regardless of the economics this tells me Sheffield Space Centre is a shop I can trust and when they put the prices up its a fair kop. Forbidden Planet aren't. At least from my simple reading of matters.

Sooooo what I'm saying is if you shop around you might find somewhere that you can trust and whatever you're paying at least you know its the going rate. Therefore if a book is $3.99 and whatever thats translates to in pounds if its a good book I'll buy it from my LCS. It will mean I think harder about whether a book is worth it - and a number of Marvel comics are being dropped this Saturday when I'm next in the store.

Oh that or switch to internet/postal ordering that seems to save people a bit. I just like supporting my LCS. Trade Waiting is another option. I do that with Daredevil as I think it read better this way and have to say it save money and is kinda cool.

Not a big fan of Stickleback. Art is pretty and all but story so much I've seen before.

Yeah but unless they throw in some giant apes, a few dinosaurs and maybe a cowboy or two what has it really got to offer?

Guess this is an appropriate place to rant about the ending. Man that was terrible.

The real travesty is people have been bemoaning DC for an age now about it being continuity heavy, 'cos Crisis rolls into Crisis. Its often said that you need to have been reading things for the last 3 years to have a clue what's happening; all those kinda things. I personally don't agree, but that's not the point. Never (well to my knowledge) before Secret Invasion has a major event been used to launch a subsequent event so blatantly.

I've made the point all along that Secret Invasion was a paper thin idea stretched to breaking point. The ending is therefore incredibly fitting. An ending with no real substance, [spoiler]told out of chronicle sequence with a single so called 'shock' to give it weight. Then they move the whole storyline of Secret Invasion aside, I felt as though embarrassed, as they finally realise they have just stretched a 4 part Avengers arc into a major event and spend the rest of the comic setting up the next event were the real shock supposedly lay. A shock that had nothing directly to do with the mini-series and the spin-offs that Marvels been building up to for so long. What we're had built up with such fanfare from Avengers 31. The seeds of which have been so cleverly planted since Bendis took over the Avengers (arh that's why those Skulls appeared in 503)[/spoiler] ends with a bare whimper, an embarrassed flashback.

Marvel truly has become what DC has been said to be. One long rolling chain of events that lurches unceremoniously from one Universe changing, it'll never be the same again, Earth shattering crossover to the next. For the present at least without even the good grace to satisfactorily finish the current event before starting the next and the Marvel Universe descends further into the grim, so called realistic (stop with that all ready, half of um fly for pities sake, realistic my...ahem) dark world it's become. It's so bleak and I want my comics to be fun and exciting and multicoloured. I accept that I'm out of step and so have to have the good grace to step aside and let the new readers enjoy their version of the Marvel Universe.

And rant over and relax!

Another theory I always liked is that the most of the bullets in the magazines are actually general issue (or whatever) but for say a heatseeker when its loaded into the barrel or bit it gets fired from a chip or some such gets attached that actually 'converts' a regular bullet into a heatseeker.

You can stretch this to incrediary - a small chemical package that reacts with the normal explosive in a regular bullet say. Hi-ex a charge is attached from the end of the gun.

Armour piercing and rubber are harder to explain as I'd guess they'd require a different physical bullet BUT they could then be in the other magazine?

I liked it at the time, and liked it even more when I re-read it, but I think it's just fine as it is as a 4 issue self contained story. Some things just should be short, and without sequels.

Yeah nine times out of ten I'd completely agree with that there is a real danger in expanding on things unless it really warrents it just because it was good. BUUUTTTTTT in this case while reading it I was constantly thinking I'd love to know more about this aspect or that aspect. Off the top of my head (and having forgotten characters names after just 2 days!)

How the main bloke got on with Masaii (spelling) - it had the potential to be a real twist on the odd couple and modern man as fish out of water scenarios.

The fact that surely some of the new memory deprieved humans would seek to hunt Masaii and co down.

The natives new found struggle for freedom had potential for a great story in itself. Particularly if interlaced with more memories (possibly see above) being unearthed that enabled some modern humans to share the experience of being enslaved.

Now if I was Pete Milligan or had a fraction of his talent I'm sure I could spin one of those ideas or probably even better ones that I'm oblivious to into a story that would really justify its own existance rather than being a sequel for sequels sake.

Mind that said I'm sure this was considered at the time and I would love to know why he choose not to continue writing in this world?