Like in the comics?
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 19 June, 2012, 06:47:26 PM
Like in the comics?
I'm not sure i'd want to see satire in the film personally........BUTTTTTTTT as long as the damn film is released,i get to see it,it's arsom then i could care less about the satire :)
Quote from: klute on 19 June, 2012, 06:56:04 PM
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 19 June, 2012, 06:47:26 PM
Like in the comics?
I'm not sure i'd want to see satire in the film personally........BUTTTTTTTT as long as the damn film is released,i get to see it,it's arsom then i could care less about the satire :)
Why any self respecting Dredd fan wouldn't want to see some satire in the film is beyond me. It'll just be a straight action film otherwise.
I think there is a bit of what I remember of reading the script. In the way that Dredd is such a cold bastard it's funny.
Like this one bit [spoiler]where he shoots a civilian so the bullet will go through and hit a fleeing perp and doesn't think twice about it.[/spoiler] That made me laugh.
I suppose it's all down to sense of humour.
What film?
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 19 June, 2012, 06:47:26 PM
Like in the comics?
They'll likely be sparing...but that one of the bigger blocks is called 'Prometheus'...I'd say that's a nod in the right direction considering that was one of the big films of the year and blown all out of proportion...
That's more fan-wank than satire.
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 19 June, 2012, 07:28:01 PM
What film?
Damn, beat me to it! :lol: Another thread...? :rolleyes:
Some people think the white van scene is ripping the pish.
It's blue.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 June, 2012, 09:32:34 PM
It's blue.
This is The West (internet),
Soap. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 19 June, 2012, 07:15:14 PM
I think there is a bit of what I remember of reading the script. In the way that Dredd is such a cold bastard it's funny.
Like this one bit [spoiler]where he shoots a civilian so the bullet will go through and hit a fleeing perp and doesn't think twice about it.[/spoiler] That made me laugh.
I suppose it's all down to sense of humour.
I'll skip the spoiler as I'd rather watch it in the film but thanks for posting that. Fingers crossed there's more bits like that then. I'd like to see a few satirical adverts on buildings etc too (even if Robocop pinched the idea.....well of adverts anyway)
Just realised.....some people might wonder how I could say we need more bits like that when I didn't see the spoiler.
Unfortunately I did see the spoiler as it showed up when I went to reply to MR ELIMINATOR'S message and I obviously read it without thinking. The black line wasn't there in my reply and it had the words MR wrote. Have to be aware of that in future.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 June, 2012, 07:45:54 PM
That's more fan-wank than satire.
I'm not sure of the percentages of fan-wank to satire on this. But that 'Prometheus' is used there as the name of a block (at this time) is probably referencing the film 'Prometheus' and not the Titan. So I would say that's a nod in the direction of the humour we've come to expect in Dredd stories that make light of public figures and current events by referencing them. It's evidence of a type of humour that may prove to be satirical.
Quote from: BOODA on 19 June, 2012, 09:54:29 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 June, 2012, 07:45:54 PM
That's more fan-wank than satire.
I'm not sure of the percentages of fan-wank to satire on this. But that 'Prometheus' is used there as the name of a block (at this time) is probably referencing the film 'Prometheus' and not the Titan. So I would say that's a nod in the direction of the humour we've come to expect in Dredd stories that make light of public figures and current events by referencing them. It's evidence of a type of humour that may prove to be satirical.
If Prometheus block is a ridiculously expensive folly, based on the design of a previous- more popular- building, and the first in a development of three magnificent edifices- that no-one actually wanted to go and live in, and were thus never completed- then that's
satire.
If it's just a block name in the background, it's Quentin Tarantino's definition of fan-wank:
"Commissioner Landis? This is Captain Cronenberg at the precinct house on the corner of Browning and Romero ..."
Quote from: bikini kill on 19 June, 2012, 10:04:01 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 19 June, 2012, 09:54:29 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 June, 2012, 07:45:54 PM
That's more fan-wank than satire.
I'm not sure of the percentages of fan-wank to satire on this. But that 'Prometheus' is used there as the name of a block (at this time) is probably referencing the film 'Prometheus' and not the Titan. So I would say that's a nod in the direction of the humour we've come to expect in Dredd stories that make light of public figures and current events by referencing them. It's evidence of a type of humour that may prove to be satirical.
If Prometheus block is a ridiculously expensive folly, based on the design of a previous- more popular- building, and the first in a development of three magnificent edifices- that no-one actually wanted to go and live in, and were thus never completed- then that's satire.
If it's just a block name in the background, it's Quentin Tarantino's definition of fan-wank: "Commissioner Landis? This is Captain Cronenberg at the precinct house on the corner of Browning and Romero ..."
I have completely misinterpreted the situation, I apologise unreservedly. This definition is knew to me. In the mid-1980's a story ran in which a prisoner was released from an iso-cube. His name was Casey Steach. This story ran in 2000AD around the time of the release of the actor Stacey Keach who had been imprisoned in the UK on cocaine charges, he was inside a year, I think. Would this be classed as Fan-Wank?
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Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 June, 2012, 07:45:54 PM
That's more fan-wank than satire.
I'm not sure of the percentages of fan-wank to satire on this. But that 'Prometheus' is used there as the name of a block (at this time) is probably referencing the film 'Prometheus' and not the Titan. So I would say that's a nod in the direction of the humour we've come to expect in Dredd stories that make light of public figures and current events by referencing them. It's evidence of a type of humour that may prove to be satirical.
If Prometheus block is a ridiculously expensive folly, based on the design of a previous- more popular- building, and the first in a development of three magnificent edifices- that no-one actually wanted to go and live in, and were thus never completed- then that's satire.
If it's just a block name in the background, it's Quentin Tarantino's definition of fan-wank: "Commissioner Landis? This is Captain Cronenberg at the precinct house on the corner of Browning and Romero ..."
I have completely misinterpreted the situation, I apologise unreservedly. This definition is knew to me. In the mid-1980's a story ran in which a prisoner was released from an iso-cube. His name was Casey Steach. This story ran in 2000AD around the time of the release of the actor Stacey Keach who had been imprisoned in the UK on cocaine charges, he was inside a year, I think. Would this be classed as Fan-Wank?
Spoonerism.
Never mind satire, is there any slapstick in the new film?
Remember that story where Dredd gets a custard pie in the face? I want that to happen.
Quote from: Lee Bates on 19 June, 2012, 10:15:20 PM
Never mind satire, is there any slapstick in the new film?
Remember that story where Dredd gets a custard pie in the face? I want that to happen.
Fingers crossed for some ventriloquism, at least.
Dancing Gila-Munja...
Quote from: blackmocco on 19 June, 2012, 10:37:01 PM
Dancing Gila-Munja...
You've seen the preview already, then?
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Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 June, 2012, 07:45:54 PM
That's more fan-wank than satire.
I'm not sure of the percentages of fan-wank to satire on this. But that 'Prometheus' is used there as the name of a block (at this time) is probably referencing the film 'Prometheus' and not the Titan. So I would say that's a nod in the direction of the humour we've come to expect in Dredd stories that make light of public figures and current events by referencing them. It's evidence of a type of humour that may prove to be satirical.
If Prometheus block is a ridiculously expensive folly, based on the design of a previous- more popular- building, and the first in a development of three magnificent edifices- that no-one actually wanted to go and live in, and were thus never completed- then that's satire.
If it's just a block name in the background, it's Quentin Tarantino's definition of fan-wank: "Commissioner Landis? This is Captain Cronenberg at the precinct house on the corner of Browning and Romero ..."
I have completely misinterpreted the situation, I apologise unreservedly. This definition is knew to me. In the mid-1980's a story ran in which a prisoner was released from an iso-cube. His name was Casey Steach. This story ran in 2000AD around the time of the release of the actor Stacey Keach who had been imprisoned in the UK on cocaine charges, he was inside a year, I think. Would this be classed as Fan-Wank?
Spoonerism.
A play on words right enough. But referencing Keach / Steach, both exiting prison?...I'm sure 'Prometheus Block' will be in-line with Tarantino's fan-wank definition because it won't go anywhere, but these kinds of things have popped up in Dredd long before QT...and right back to Thackeray for that matter, but I'm sure it's perfectly apt for film-references within other films. Thanks for explaining the definition, a new one on me.
Quote from: bikini kill on 19 June, 2012, 10:21:12 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 19 June, 2012, 10:15:20 PM
Never mind satire, is there any slapstick in the new film?
Remember that story where Dredd gets a custard pie in the face? I want that to happen.
Fingers crossed for some ventriloquism, at least.
How about a comedy sidekick? ;)
Stew
All signifiers are mobile; their meanings subjective and contingent.
The talking turkey's would be good.
Quote from: bikini kill on 19 June, 2012, 10:44:23 PM
All signifiers are mobile; their meanings subjective and contingent.
I must say you do this board proud, Bikini Kill, quoting a philosophical titan to snuff out the flames of my own Promethean folly! Well played.
Quote from: bikini kill on 19 June, 2012, 10:44:23 PM
All signifiers are mobile; their meanings subjective and contingent.
For all its veracity;- this premise is useless, especially when it comes to formulating satire.
In answer to the thread-topic, there aint a whole pile of satire in the original script, so I reckon you can expect extreme subtlety on the humour/satire front.
Quote from: darnmarr on 20 June, 2012, 12:40:53 AM
In answer to the thread-topic, there aint a whole pile of satire in the original script, so I reckon you can expect extreme subtlety on the humour/satire front.
Like Dirty Harry.
And Mad Max.
To be honest, I think the concept of Judge Dredd is inherently satirical.
I think for a movie you have to find a style and stick to it.
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Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 19 June, 2012, 06:47:26 PM
Like in the comics?
I'm not sure i'd want to see satire in the film personally........BUTTTTTTTT as long as the damn film is released,i get to see it,it's arsom then i could care less about the satire :)
I am a self respecting
Why any self respecting Dredd fan wouldn't want to see some satire in the film is beyond me. It'll just be a straight action film otherwise.
I am a self respecting Dredd fan and no i'm not interested in satire there was enough of that with Stallone's pile of shite if i wanted satire i'd what american pie 50 or whatever it is that's currently doing the round's.
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Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 19 June, 2012, 06:47:26 PM
Like in the comics?
I'm not sure i'd want to see satire in the film personally........BUTTTTTTTT as long as the damn film is released,i get to see it,it's arsom then i could care less about the satire :)
I am a self respecting
Why any self respecting Dredd fan wouldn't want to see some satire in the film is beyond me. It'll just be a straight action film otherwise.
I am a self respecting Dredd fan and no i'm not interested in satire there was enough of that with Stallone's pile of shite if i wanted satire i'd what american pie 50 or whatever it is that's currently doing the round's.
Was there? I can't remember much satire in Stallones film. I haven't seen it for years so if there is any please remind me.
So you just want a straightforward action flick then....even though satire's been a big part of Dredd from the beginning?
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I am a self respecting Dredd fan and no i'm not interested in satire there was enough of that with Stallone's pile of shite if i wanted satire i'd what american pie 50 or whatever it is that's currently doing the round's.
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Was there? I can't remember much satire in Stallones film. I haven't seen it for years so if there is any please remind me.
So you just want a straightforward action flick then....even though satire's been a big part of Dredd from the beginning?
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That was shat-ire not satire.
Wow. Am I in the wrong here? JUst seems that anyone liking the film is a dissenting voice to you and the nitpickers and are dismissed as fanboys and idiots. I know this is a boring threadjacking post but I just had voice me only now near repaired feelings about the the subject. Just because I like what I like about it I get dismissed as a rosy spectacled flibbedyjibbet who can't say yay about anything. I thought this was the nicest place on the web but obviously I'm not a real fan.
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Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 19 June, 2012, 06:47:26 PM
Like in the comics?
I'm not sure i'd want to see satire in the film personally........BUTTTTTTTT as long as the damn film is released,i get to see it,it's arsom then i could care less about the satire :)
I am a self respecting
Why any self respecting Dredd fan wouldn't want to see some satire in the film is beyond me. It'll just be a straight action film otherwise.
I am a self respecting Dredd fan and no i'm not interested in satire there was enough of that with Stallone's pile of shite if i wanted satire i'd what american pie 50 or whatever it is that's currently doing the round's.
Was there? I can't remember much satire in Stallones film. I haven't seen it for years so if there is any please remind me.
So you just want a straightforward action flick then....even though satire's been a big part of Dredd from the beginning?
Yeah i do want a straightforward action film.I'd rather they missed out the satire.Stallone's Judge Dredd was horrid and the less said about Rob Schneider the better.
QuoteWas there? I can't remember much satire in Stallones film.
Oh yeah there was a bucket load it's hard to miss.
Satire isn't the same thing as comedy.
Quote from: bikini kill on 20 June, 2012, 07:21:16 PM
Satire isn't the same thing as comedy.
Indeed......some one should have told danny cannon that.
The very nature of Dredd is satire. He was created as a backlash to Thatcherite Britain.
Quote from: Misanthrope on 20 June, 2012, 07:24:56 PM
The very nature of Dredd is satire. He was created as a backlash to Thatcherite Britain.
Indeed i just feel personally FOR ME i'd prefer the less is more approach to satire
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Like in the comics?
I'm not sure i'd want to see satire in the film personally........BUTTTTTTTT as long as the damn film is released,i get to see it,it's arsom then i could care less about the satire :)
I am a self respecting
Why any self respecting Dredd fan wouldn't want to see some satire in the film is beyond me. It'll just be a straight action film otherwise.
I am a self respecting Dredd fan and no i'm not interested in satire there was enough of that with Stallone's pile of shite if i wanted satire i'd what american pie 50 or whatever it is that's currently doing the round's.
Was there? I can't remember much satire in Stallones film. I haven't seen it for years so if there is any please remind me.
So you just want a straightforward action flick then....even though satire's been a big part of Dredd from the beginning?
Yeah i do want a straightforward action film.I'd rather they missed out the satire.Stallone's Judge Dredd was horrid and the less said about Rob Schneider the better.
QuoteWas there? I can't remember much satire in Stallones film.
Oh yeah there was a bucket load it's hard to miss.
Where's this satire in the Stallone film then? Please refresh me as I haven't seen it for a long time and I can't really remember there being any.
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Like in the comics?
I'm not sure i'd want to see satire in the film personally........BUTTTTTTTT as long as the damn film is released,i get to see it,it's arsom then i could care less about the satire :)
I am a self respecting
Why any self respecting Dredd fan wouldn't want to see some satire in the film is beyond me. It'll just be a straight action film otherwise.
I am a self respecting Dredd fan and no i'm not interested in satire there was enough of that with Stallone's pile of shite if i wanted satire i'd what american pie 50 or whatever it is that's currently doing the round's.
Was there? I can't remember much satire in Stallones film. I haven't seen it for years so if there is any please remind me.
So you just want a straightforward action flick then....even though satire's been a big part of Dredd from the beginning?
Yeah i do want a straightforward action film.I'd rather they missed out the satire.Stallone's Judge Dredd was horrid and the less said about Rob Schneider the better.
QuoteWas there? I can't remember much satire in Stallones film.
Oh yeah there was a bucket load it's hard to miss.
Where's this satire in the Stallone film then? Please refresh me as I haven't seen it for a long time and I can't really remember there being any.
Is this a wind up??
Quote from: Misanthrope on 20 June, 2012, 07:24:56 PM
The very nature of Dredd is satire. He was created as a backlash to Thatcherite Britain
Thatcher wasn't elected until 1979. Precognition is not one of Wagner's many talents.
I've just checked IMDB and there's no such actor called Any Satire
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Quote from: Misanthrope on 20 June, 2012, 07:24:56 PM
The very nature of Dredd is satire. He was created as a backlash to Thatcherite Britain
Thatcher wasn't elected until 1979. Precognition is not one of Wagner's many talents.
I beg to differ.
Quote from: pops1983 on 20 June, 2012, 07:39:02 PM
I've just checked IMDB and there's no such actor called Any Satire
Have you tried N. E. Satire?
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Like in the comics?
I'm not sure i'd want to see satire in the film personally........BUTTTTTTTT as long as the damn film is released,i get to see it,it's arsom then i could care less about the satire :)
I am a self respecting
Why any self respecting Dredd fan wouldn't want to see some satire in the film is beyond me. It'll just be a straight action film otherwise.
I am a self respecting Dredd fan and no i'm not interested in satire there was enough of that with Stallone's pile of shite if i wanted satire i'd what american pie 50 or whatever it is that's currently doing the round's.
Was there? I can't remember much satire in Stallones film. I haven't seen it for years so if there is any please remind me.
So you just want a straightforward action flick then....even though satire's been a big part of Dredd from the beginning?
Yeah i do want a straightforward action film.I'd rather they missed out the satire.Stallone's Judge Dredd was horrid and the less said about Rob Schneider the better.
QuoteWas there? I can't remember much satire in Stallones film.
Oh yeah there was a bucket load it's hard to miss.
Where's this satire in the Stallone film then? Please refresh me as I haven't seen it for a long time and I can't really remember there being any.
Is this a wind up??
Not a wind up. Tell us where it is then?
There was satire in The lion, The witch and the wardrobe.
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Like in the comics?
I'm not sure i'd want to see satire in the film personally........BUTTTTTTTT as long as the damn film is released,i get to see it,it's arsom then i could care less about the satire :)
I am a self respecting
Why any self respecting Dredd fan wouldn't want to see some satire in the film is beyond me. It'll just be a straight action film otherwise.
I am a self respecting Dredd fan and no i'm not interested in satire there was enough of that with Stallone's pile of shite if i wanted satire i'd what american pie 50 or whatever it is that's currently doing the round's.
Was there? I can't remember much satire in Stallones film. I haven't seen it for years so if there is any please remind me.
So you just want a straightforward action flick then....even though satire's been a big part of Dredd from the beginning?
Yeah i do want a straightforward action film.I'd rather they missed out the satire.Stallone's Judge Dredd was horrid and the less said about Rob Schneider the better.
QuoteWas there? I can't remember much satire in Stallones film.
Oh yeah there was a bucket load it's hard to miss.
Where's this satire in the Stallone film then? Please refresh me as I haven't seen it for a long time and I can't really remember there being any.
Is this a wind up??
Not a wind up. Tell us where it is then?
!Stone jones! right???? i wasn't sure till now you seem famliar to "Stone Jones" to simliar infact if your not you do a good impression.
Well done Scott/Scojo/Stone Jones ABC or whatever your calling yourself anyway i'm as much entitled to an opinion as you and my opinion on the Stallone film isn't going to change...you really should rewatch it.
And yeah i think it VERY much is a wind up
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Is this thread intended to be satirical?
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Is this thread intended to be satirical?
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Is this thread intended to be satirical?
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Is this thread intended to be satirical?
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Is this thread intended to be satirical?
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Is this thread intended to be satirical?
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Is this thread intended to be satirical?
I'm not sure, but this post certainly is
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Like in the comics?
I'm not sure i'd want to see satire in the film personally........BUTTTTTTTT as long as the damn film is released,i get to see it,it's arsom then i could care less about the satire :)
I am a self respecting
Why any self respecting Dredd fan wouldn't want to see some satire in the film is beyond me. It'll just be a straight action film otherwise.
I am a self respecting Dredd fan and no i'm not interested in satire there was enough of that with Stallone's pile of shite if i wanted satire i'd what american pie 50 or whatever it is that's currently doing the round's.
Was there? I can't remember much satire in Stallones film. I haven't seen it for years so if there is any please remind me.
So you just want a straightforward action flick then....even though satire's been a big part of Dredd from the beginning?
Yeah i do want a straightforward action film.I'd rather they missed out the satire.Stallone's Judge Dredd was horrid and the less said about Rob Schneider the better.
QuoteWas there? I can't remember much satire in Stallones film.
Oh yeah there was a bucket load it's hard to miss.
Where's this satire in the Stallone film then? Please refresh me as I haven't seen it for a long time and I can't really remember there being any.
Is this a wind up??
Not a wind up. Tell us where it is then?
!Stone jones! right???? i wasn't sure till now you seem famliar to "Stone Jones" to simliar infact if your not you do a good impression.
Well done Scott/Scojo/Stone Jones ABC or whatever your calling yourself anyway i'm as much entitled to an opinion as you and my opinion on the Stallone film isn't going to change...you really should rewatch it.
And yeah i think it VERY much is a wind up
Ah that old scojo (or whatever he's called) routine again. I'm not him and the moderators know I'm not him either. Of course you're entitled to your opinion and who's saying you aren't........but I'd still love to know where the bits of satire are in the Stallone flick.
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Is this not satire enough?
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Quote from: JOE SOAP on 20 June, 2012, 09:27:00 PM
Is this not satire enough?
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Quote from: JOE SOAP on 20 June, 2012, 09:27:00 PM
Is this not satire enough?
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Quote from: SuperSurfer on 20 June, 2012, 09:44:02 PM
Bigger than the bloody helmet!
It would need to be, otherwise it wouldn't fit
C'mon Klute. Let's find out where the satire is in Stallones flicky wick. I wanna know!
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 20 June, 2012, 10:41:55 PM
C'mon Klute. Let's find out where the satire is in Stallones flicky wick. I wanna know!
Entertaining stuff.
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 20 June, 2012, 10:41:55 PM
C'mon Klute. Let's find out where the satire is in Stallones flicky wick. I wanna know!
Inside the Cod-piece with ABCwarBOT
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 20 June, 2012, 11:10:58 PM
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 20 June, 2012, 10:41:55 PM
C'mon Klute. Let's find out where the satire is in Stallones flicky wick. I wanna know!
Inside the Cod-piece with ABCwarBOT
That's not a place I'd like to be........or even think about!
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Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 20 June, 2012, 10:41:55 PM
C'mon Klute. Let's find out where the satire is in Stallones flicky wick. I wanna know!
'Flicky Wick'...hmm...ABCwarBOT - Were you ever married to Katy Perry by any chance? :)...For What it's worth I don't recall satire in 95.. the joke was on us.
Quote from: Misanthrope on 20 June, 2012, 07:43:00 PM
There was satire in The lion, The witch and the wardrobe.
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I reckon there are elements of satire in the Stallone film: how ever seriously ourselves,or more importantly, our younger selves, took him as a character,- he really was that whole American 'dirty harry' thang taken to an absurd conclusion, from the outset.
Some elements of that did creep in to the film, and without an entirely self-conscious or unselfish-conscious tone to the whole story, those bits came across as just plain stoopid.
I reckon all that Klute is calling for here is less stoopid bits.
Quote from: darnmarr on 21 June, 2012, 01:58:09 AM
I reckon there are elements of satire in the Stallone film: how ever seriously ourselves,or more importantly, our younger selves, took him as a character,- he really was that whole American 'dirty harry' thang taken to an absurd conclusion, from the outset.
Some elements of that did creep in to the film, and without an entirely self-conscious or unselfish-conscious tone to the whole story, those bits came across as just plain stoopid.
I reckon all that Klute is calling for here is less stoopid bits.
There's the "eat recycled food" advertising thing in the opening scenes, an attempt at satire that comes off as a inferior
Robocop-type gag. There might be more such moments throughout the film, but I'm not sure I can be bothered to find out :D
Don't be surprised when that codpiece resurfaces as Blackblood's face when Lionsgate get the go ahead to make ABC Warriors.
Quote from: minus on 21 June, 2012, 08:11:31 AM
Don't be surprised when that codpiece resurfaces as Blackblood's face when Lionsgate get the go ahead to make ABC Warriors.
Good observation!
Quote from: BOODA on 21 June, 2012, 09:16:11 AM
Quote from: minus on 21 June, 2012, 08:11:31 AM
Don't be surprised when that codpiece resurfaces as Blackblood's face when Lionsgate get the go ahead to make ABC Warriors.
Good observation!
Good observation indeed, but...urgh! What an image! pass me the mind-bleach nurse!
Nailed it...NAILED IT!!!!
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 20 June, 2012, 07:32:34 PMWhere's this satire in the Stallone film then? Please refresh me as I haven't seen it for a long time and I can't really remember there being any.
There's satire, I mean how about the satire on law enforcement? Satire on ridiculous unjust laws? Whether you think it was well done or not is another thing, but the satire is certainly in the movie. A lot of Dredd's harshness to Rob Schneider's "Fergee" character is comedy satire very much right out of the books.
There was the inferring of tougher criminal codes that Griffin and Fargo discussed at the start of the film and this was when the film briefly became interesting. Sadly this potential plot line was dispensed with pretty quickly apart from on instance of Dredd blowing up a drunk driver's car.
I stll watch the '95 film from time to time and I am no Stallone hater-I like a lot of his work but Judge Dredd was a disappointment.
Quote from: darnmarr on 21 June, 2012, 01:58:09 AM
I reckon there are elements of satire in the Stallone film: how ever seriously ourselves,or more importantly, our younger selves, took him as a character,- he really was that whole American 'dirty harry' thang taken to an absurd conclusion, from the outset.
Some elements of that did creep in to the film, and without an entirely self-conscious or unselfish-conscious tone to the whole story, those bits came across as just plain stoopid.
I reckon all that Klute is calling for here is less stoopid bits.
Indeed i really hated schneider in the film amongst other thing's but yeah less stupid more action for me...... if that upset's ABC then so be it,But there was enough comedy and satire in Stallone's film without really having to quote a particular scene,seem's to me that he has an axe to grind.
Not that any of the above matters after watching the trailer today i'm happy with first look and hope the rest is as good.
I've been thinking about this, and apart from the obvious in Jokes that we've been seeing in the background of shots, What Cinematographer Dod Mantle said about this film being a comment on violent films is dawning on me as being the crux of the satire.
This comment from a possible attendee at the preview screening the other night seems to confirm this:
'I have seen a sneak preview of this film and rest assured it is INCREDIBLE. The violence is grisly and absurd' http://screenrant.com/dredd-trailer-sandy-181254/ (http://screenrant.com/dredd-trailer-sandy-181254/)
I had the same feeling after reading the script a couple years ago, i.e ' The violence is way over the top - How're they going to get away with this and still be taken seriously?'
The Slo-Mo Drug is obviously a piss take of the Bay Richie Snyder trend of over using the effect. This has of course all been said before.
So I'm guessing Alex Garland was fairly tongue in cheek with a lot of the things he put into the script in the first place. On the surface it is itself one of those films, but any half thinking person will get the joke.
There's your Satire.
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Quote from: darnmarr on 21 June, 2012, 01:58:09 AM
I reckon there are elements of satire in the Stallone film: how ever seriously ourselves,or more importantly, our younger selves, took him as a character,- he really was that whole American 'dirty harry' thang taken to an absurd conclusion, from the outset.
Some elements of that did creep in to the film, and without an entirely self-conscious or unselfish-conscious tone to the whole story, those bits came across as just plain stoopid.
I reckon all that Klute is calling for here is less stoopid bits.
There's the "eat recycled food" advertising thing in the opening scenes, an attempt at satire that comes off as a inferior Robocop-type gag. There might be more such moments throughout the film, but I'm not sure I can be bothered to find out :D
That's the type of obvious satire I'm talking about and apart from that I can't remember any other obvious bits of satire. I don't want many stupid bits either (if any) but I think Klute's getting stupid bits and satire mixed up.
Cool story, Scott
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Quote from: darnmarr on 21 June, 2012, 01:58:09 AM
I reckon there are elements of satire in the Stallone film: how ever seriously ourselves,or more importantly, our younger selves, took him as a character,- he really was that whole American 'dirty harry' thang taken to an absurd conclusion, from the outset.
Some elements of that did creep in to the film, and without an entirely self-conscious or unselfish-conscious tone to the whole story, those bits came across as just plain stoopid.
I reckon all that Klute is calling for here is less stoopid bits.
Indeed i really hated schneider in the film amongst other thing's but yeah less stupid more action for me...... if that upset's ABC then so be it,But there was enough comedy and satire in Stallone's film without really having to quote a particular scene,seem's to me that he has an axe to grind.
Not that any of the above matters after watching the trailer today i'm happy with first look and hope the rest is as good.
Yeah....there wasn't really much satire in Stallones film was there. I think you're getting stupid comedy bits mixed up with satire. Satire's an integral part of Dredd history and if you want a dumb action film fine....but please don't get satire (which can be pretty scathing) mixed up with stupid comedy bits and sidekicks.
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Quote from: klute on 21 June, 2012, 02:24:28 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 21 June, 2012, 01:58:09 AM
I reckon there are elements of satire in the Stallone film: how ever seriously ourselves,or more importantly, our younger selves, took him as a character,- he really was that whole American 'dirty harry' thang taken to an absurd conclusion, from the outset.
Some elements of that did creep in to the film, and without an entirely self-conscious or unselfish-conscious tone to the whole story, those bits came across as just plain stoopid.
I reckon all that Klute is calling for here is less stoopid bits.
Indeed i really hated schneider in the film amongst other thing's but yeah less stupid more action for me...... if that upset's ABC then so be it,But there was enough comedy and satire in Stallone's film without really having to quote a particular scene,seem's to me that he has an axe to grind.
Not that any of the above matters after watching the trailer today i'm happy with first look and hope the rest is as good.
Yeah....there wasn't really much satire in Stallones film was there. I think you're getting stupid comedy bits mixed up with satire. Satire's an integral part of Dredd history and if you want a dumb action film fine....but please don't get satire (which can be pretty scathing) mixed up with stupid comedy bits and sidekicks.
Oh i don't have the two mixed up at all! and i'd rather a dumb action film than that bucket of spew produced in 95
I'd like to agree to disagree and move on,tbh it's getting boring......you're getting boring
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All you dumb fucks are too stupid to realise that the '95 film was a razor-sharp satire on 'Judge Dredd' itself. Look at how they stripped the whole thing down, burnt those sacred cows like the uniform and the iconic helmet; made him a victim of his own justice; lampooned Dredd's classic lines, added a few more zingers then topped it all off with a kiss and a smile, Dredd reborn. Stallone certainly turned the tables on this dystopian dirge and made it something unique. He was way ahead of all ya and you still haven't caught up, fuckin' philistines.
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Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 22 June, 2012, 06:31:15 PM
Quote from: klute on 21 June, 2012, 02:24:28 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 21 June, 2012, 01:58:09 AM
I reckon there are elements of satire in the Stallone film: how ever seriously ourselves,or more importantly, our younger selves, took him as a character,- he really was that whole American 'dirty harry' thang taken to an absurd conclusion, from the outset.
Some elements of that did creep in to the film, and without an entirely self-conscious or unselfish-conscious tone to the whole story, those bits came across as just plain stoopid.
I reckon all that Klute is calling for here is less stoopid bits.
Indeed i really hated schneider in the film amongst other thing's but yeah less stupid more action for me...... if that upset's ABC then so be it,But there was enough comedy and satire in Stallone's film without really having to quote a particular scene,seem's to me that he has an axe to grind.
Not that any of the above matters after watching the trailer today i'm happy with first look and hope the rest is as good.
Yeah....there wasn't really much satire in Stallones film was there. I think you're getting stupid comedy bits mixed up with satire. Satire's an integral part of Dredd history and if you want a dumb action film fine....but please don't get satire (which can be pretty scathing) mixed up with stupid comedy bits and sidekicks.
Oh i don't have the two mixed up at all! and i'd rather a dumb action film than that bucket of spew produced in 95
I'd like to agree to disagree and move on,tbh it's getting boring......you're getting boring
YAWWWWNNNN "These aren't the droid's you're looking for move along!"
Oh I think you do have the 2 mixed up and not only that..............people criticised the 95 flick precisely because it
was a dumb action flick and didn't capture the satire from the Dredd in comic form...so your argument's arse backwards.
I think it's fair to say that most Dredd fans don't want this to be just a dumb action flick. They want something more intelligent.
If you want a dumb action flick then go and watch the 95 film.
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 22 June, 2012, 09:01:16 PMI think it's fair to say that most Dredd fans don't want this to be just a dumb action flick. They want something more intelligent.
It's more than that but it still may not be what you like.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 22 June, 2012, 09:13:43 PM
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 22 June, 2012, 09:01:16 PMI think it's fair to say that most Dredd fans don't want this to be just a dumb action flick. They want something more intelligent.
It's more than that but it still may not be what you like.
Are you talking about more satire.....if so then that's a start. I'm off to see if I can watch the trailer now after problems with it yesterday.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 22 June, 2012, 07:29:45 PM
All you dumb fucks are too stupid to realise that the '95 film was a razor-sharp satire on 'Judge Dredd' itself. Look at how they stripped the whole thing down, burnt those sacred cows like the uniform and the iconic helmet; made him a victim of his own justice; lampooned Dredd's classic lines, added a few more zingers then topped it all off with a kiss and a smile, Dredd reborn. Stallone certainly turned the tables on this dystopian dirge and made it something unique. He was way ahead of all ya and you still haven't caught up, fuckin' philistines.
Go tell it on the mountain! I'm a believer, Brother!