Dredd (2012)

[JOE SOAP]

'Dredd' Takes Steps Toward Sequel
Karl Urban indicates a follow-up is actively being sought

[COMMANDO FORCES]

Keep the faith all you loyal fans 

[JOE SOAP]

From an interview last month:

Well actually, I had breakfast with [Alex] Garland not too long ago in the UK. There is a distinct possibility that we'll be able to venture down that road. [...] Bombard Lionsgate with emails!

[radiator]

Hm. No news then.

[dweezil2]

We live in hope!

[Beadle68]

you guys don't know how often I check this site from my phone just to get snippets of hope like this.

[A.Cow]

Dunno if anybody's posted this already (after all, 700+ pages is a lot to trawl through), but here are some hard numbers:

Budget:	= $45 million	(source: Wikipedia)
US Domestic P&A:	= $25 million	P&A = prints & advertising; paid by Lionsgate (source: LA Times)
Rest of World (RoW) P&A:	= $42 million	Estimated, based on box office pro-rata
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US Box Office:	= $13.4 million	(source: Box Office Mojo)
US DVD sales:	= $10.2 million	640,000 @ $17/unit (320,000 in first week) (source: the-numbers.com)
US blu-ray sales:	= $9.6 million	Est. 368,000 @ $28/unit (based on known 184,000 in first week, source: the-numbers.com)
RoW Box Office:	= $22.2 million	(source: Box Office Mojo)
RoW DVD sales:	= $17 million	Estimated pro-rata
RoW blu-ray sales:	= $16 million	Estimated pro-rata
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TOTAL EXPENDITURE:	= $112 million	Estimated
TOTAL INCOME:	= $88 million	Estimated

Forgetting the fact that retailers and price drops will be slicing into those DVD/blu-ray figures, it sadly looks like it's still a fair way off breaking even.

[A.Cow]

Bugger!  I had that all lined up on the 'post reply' screen.  Darn you, lack-of-edit-function!  Darn you to heck!

[IAMTHESYSTEM]

Forgetting the fact that retailers and price drops will be slicing into those DVD/blu-ray figures, it sadly looks like it's still a fair way off breaking even.

>SOB!<

Seems to be a long shot still for a DREDD sequel.

[JOE SOAP]

Slight correction- International Box Office: $27,454,280

http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Dredd

Where did you get these numbers? I have slightly different estimates that include rentals and TV rights.

[The Sherman Kid]

Lionsgate have certainly lost out (some would say deservedly so for such a poor marketing campaign) and some other distributors around the globe but how do these figures translate when it comes to those who actually financed the film in the first place?

If they are starting to see a return there may be more hope than thought ,after all there are other distributors.They may consider that the first film to have been poorly served by Lionsgate judging from the subsequent DVD/Blueray sales and take a favourable view on a sequel.

What is the actual maths behind the DVD/Blueray sales and who gets what?

Are the films financiers themselves close to making a profit now?

[JOE SOAP]

Lionsgate have certainly lost out (some would say deservedly so for such a poor marketing campaign) and some other distributors around the globe but how do these figures translate when it comes to those who actually financed the film in the first place?

That depends on who paid for and controlled the marketing. There is also the fact that $30 million in pre-sales alleviated the cost of [/url=http://www.deadline.com/2012/09/soft-friday-box-office-clint-eastwoods-trouble-with-the-curve-disappoints-but-end-of-watch-strong-even-if-house-1-rebooted-dredd-opens-just-dreadful/#more-341145]marketing[/url]:


Comic-Con fans seemed to accept this new gritty Dredd last summer, unlike the Sly Stallone version with lycra and codpieces. Reviews were good, and audiences gave the pic a 'B' CinemaScore. The bad news is that Deepak Nayer and Stuart Ford who put the picture together committed Reliance Entertainment to fund the $40M gap and backstop the P&A. The good news for Lionsgate is that it has minimal risk. LG's marketing campaign created a comic strip prequel to the film with the publisher 2000 AD as well as a Motion Comic released online. -Deadline

[JOE SOAP]

No edit function.

Lionsgate have certainly lost out (some would say deservedly so for such a poor marketing campaign) and some other distributors around the globe but how do these figures translate when it comes to those who actually financed the film in the first place?

That depends on who paid for and controlled the marketing. There is also the fact that $30 million in pre-sales alleviated the cost of marketing:


Comic-Con fans seemed to accept this new gritty Dredd last summer, unlike the Sly Stallone version with lycra and codpieces. Reviews were good, and audiences gave the pic a 'B' CinemaScore. The bad news is that Deepak Nayer and Stuart Ford who put the picture together committed Reliance Entertainment to fund the $40M gap and backstop the P&A. The good news for Lionsgate is that it has minimal risk. LG's marketing campaign created a comic strip prequel to the film with the publisher 2000 AD as well as a Motion Comic released online. -Deadline

[dracula1]

All sounds interesting. The current state of the movie industry will dash any hopes of Dredd getting a well deserved sequel. I feel if Mr. Garland and Co. are pursuing options the TV one is the best. Look at Urbans new sci fi venture on the box for example.

[Goaty]

If it happens, I will promise to kiss Karl Urban somehow!