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: Doctor Who: Russell T Davies returns as programme showrunner
: Batman's Superior Cousin 24 September, 2021, 03:40:41 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-58682472
: Re: Doctor Who: Russell T Davies returns as programme showrunner
: Colin YNWA 24 September, 2021, 03:57:52 PM
Well that's interesting... and I've also no idea whether its good or bad news. Returning to things like this always feels like a sticky wicket. It could also be very backward looking... but he'll have developed as a writer and show runner. Would surely (???) only return if he wanted to do new and different things.

At the time the relaunch was a success so... well it feels awkward but you never know could be good news...

... if nothing else it'll certainly get folks talking!
: Re: Doctor Who: Russell T Davies returns as programme showrunner
: Leigh S 24 September, 2021, 04:00:58 PM
WEll my immediate reaaction was cheering...

Then remembering he was championing Olly Alexander as 14th Doctor (hopefully a cover to make us not consider him as the new showrunner)

Then remembering I disliked much of Tennant Era

Possibly my reaction was postive as I had coincidentally spent the day watching a reaction video series to series 1 - got to love Eccleston!
: Re: Doctor Who: Russell T Davies returns as programme showrunner
: Magnetica 24 September, 2021, 04:06:27 PM
I think it’s good news. Too many episodes have failed to engage me since he left, so hopefully he can inject some excitement back.
: Re: Doctor Who: Russell T Davies returns as programme showrunner
: Leigh S 24 September, 2021, 04:18:47 PM
The only thing we can be certaain of with this news is no chance of an Eccleston appearance for the 60th then!
: Re: Doctor Who: Russell T Davies returns as programme showrunner
: IndigoPrime 24 September, 2021, 04:43:09 PM
This whiffs a bit of ‘kill or cure’. Also that the BBC is fresh out of ideas and/or that no-one else wanted to do it. Still, despite some issues with the RTD run, it at least knew how to have fun and didn’t just want to make puzzles out of all of the women in the cast. It had humanity and also, arguably, the best Dalek episode of the modern run by some margin.

I just hope he gets the casting right (which is going to be very tough now), figures out how to resolve the Timeless Child rubbish but without consigning Jo Martin’s Doctor to oblivion, and hires and listens to a great script editor. Given modern TV, the last of those is, oddly, perhaps the least likely.
: Re: Doctor Who: Russell T Davies returns as programme showrunner
: Funt Solo 24 September, 2021, 06:55:22 PM
I wonder about the value of producers being turned into minor celebrities and labeled as "showrunners". It's all a bit pompous. I recently opted to do the web edits on our building's site, and my boss keeps calling me the "webmaster". I feel like, with a title like that, I need a more elaborate costume to wear to work.

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: Re: Doctor Who: Russell T Davies returns as programme showrunner
: judgeurko 24 September, 2021, 06:55:53 PM
the show has officially de-generated. RIP Doctor Who this is the last desperate death rattle of the show RTD brought the show back he has been hired to bring it to a close.
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: Mister Pops 24 September, 2021, 09:31:59 PM
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: Re: Doctor Who: Russell T Davies returns as programme showrunner
: Jim_Campbell 24 September, 2021, 09:45:44 PM
The man who presided over an atmosphere so toxic that Christopher Ecclestone quit after one season, that tolerated Noel ’Handsy’ Clarke and John ’Oops, is that my dick in your soup’ Barrowman, is back in charge.

Well done, BBC. Way to read the room.
: Re: Doctor Who: Russell T Davies returns as programme showrunner
: Leigh S 25 September, 2021, 05:16:19 PM
Yeah, I do think there are some worrying undercurrents to the behind the scenes of RTD Era that make me wary.

My initial understanding of it was a poor work environment which encouraged/demanded unreasonable hours from people not paid enough to be making those sort of commitments.  The Barrowman stuff was open knowledge, the Clarke stuff not so much.
: Re: Doctor Who: Russell T Davies returns as programme showrunner
: von Boom 25 September, 2021, 06:11:58 PM
My first thought was 'What the fuck for?'

I'm no fan of the Chibnall run but RTD feels like a massive step backward. I'm not sure who I would put in charge at the moment but it wouldn't be Davies.
: Re: Doctor Who: Russell T Davies returns as programme showrunner
: GordonR 25 September, 2021, 06:49:32 PM
I haven’t seen any comment yet on another significant thing in this announcement  That the show will be co-produced with a non-BBC production company - Bad Wolf, run by RTD’s ex-partner in crime Julie Gardner and Jane Tranter, the BBC exec who commissioned the new series in the first place.

While they’re both a safe pair of hands, the BBC has ceded an huge amount of control over one of their flagship shows to an outside company.
: Re: Doctor Who: Russell T Davies returns as programme showrunner
: Leigh S 25 September, 2021, 10:44:12 PM
Didnt RTD have to jump in to wrangle Torcchwood from Chibnalls icy clutches?

The Bad Wolf connection is interesting - I have a vague idea in my head about Canada or US funding already being a thing,  but this is much more than that.  The familiar names masks that a bit.

If RTD show runs this with a view to training up a decent replacement, then all good.  Otherwise, as IP says, it could become a case of kill or cure, or cure then kill if there is no one else willing or able to take it on.
: Re: Doctor Who: Russell T Davies returns as programme showrunner
: judgeurko 12 October, 2021, 07:07:32 PM
Didnt RTD have to jump in to wrangle Torcchwood from Chibnalls icy clutches?

The Bad Wolf connection is interesting - I have a vague idea in my head about Canada or US funding already being a thing,  but this is much more than that.  The familiar names masks that a bit.

If RTD show runs this with a view to training up a decent replacement, then all good.  Otherwise, as IP says, it could become a case of kill or cure, or cure then kill if there is no one else willing or able to take it on.
Chibnalls clutches aren't icy. RTD on the other hand allowed sexual misconduct to take place on Dr Who & it was even made light of in a song. Disgusting.
: Re: Doctor Who: Russell T Davies returns as programme showrunner
: IAMTHESYSTEM 22 January, 2022, 10:04:40 AM
Is David Tennant back as Doctor Who? Is he reincarnated once again as Gallifrey's best-known export?

https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/celebs-tv/doctor-who-david-tennant-cast-6531823
: Re: Doctor Who: Russell T Davies returns as programme showrunner
: Mardroid 22 January, 2022, 03:14:06 PM
It’s interesting seeing all the positive comments concerning Russell’s return (not so much on this thread. Here it’s pretty balanced either way. More talking about comments I’ve seen elsewhere on the ‘net). I remember near the end of his tenure, how negative people seemed to be, and how they rejoiced in his departure and the coming of Moffat. But now the way people talk, you get the impression RTD’s time was a golden age, and his return is applauded.

To be fair, he is the man who brought Who back, and it’s not the whole of his run that the negative people dislike, more the later series. Generally seems to be seen as a good ideas man, even then, but concluding the story arcs with … a wave of the sonic screwdriver,* as it were.

Personally I rather liked his Who, although I did agree concerning the way he would conclude stuff. The whole stuff with companions crushing on the Doctor got a bit silly too.  While I think I largely preferred Moffat as a writer I think his best stuff may have been actually under RTD and he didn’t conclude his arcs that much better. If anything I found his stuff rather confusing, although I liked that he brought the time element into his stories more, rather than just using it as a vehicle to get them to a setting for a story.

I haven’t particularly disliked any of the other stuff subsequently, even found the Time Child stuff interesting, (and I seem to be well in the minority there) but I have felt it could be much better. I really like Jodie Whittaker’s Doctor, but the stories really should have done more with her companions.

I’m interested to see what RTD brings after his time away now that he has so much more experience.

David Tennant’s return, if true, does smack a bit as a publicity stunt, but I am interested to see what they might do with him. It appears he will only be around for three specials or so, anyway, so his incarnation would be rather short.


*I don’t mean that entirely literally. Although that tool was relied on a lot more than it seems to have been in the old 60s-80s days.