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Title: Prog 2247 - Sick Building Syndrome
Post by: Freddychopper on 28 August, 2021, 05:57:05 PM
Starting it off with the awesome Percival cover art & Dredd inside:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9tSJtXXsAENMJ4?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
Title: Re: Prog 2247 - Sick Building Syndrome
Post by: Freddychopper on 28 August, 2021, 05:58:30 PM
And the printed version:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9x6ttZWYAAbZ92?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)

Quite a contrast to last week's Prog but always up for a spooky story  :)
Title: Re: Prog 2247 - Sick Building Syndrome
Post by: MumboJimbo on 28 August, 2021, 08:57:39 PM
3 new thrills? It's a QJOP! (Quasi-Jumping On Prog)
Title: Re: Prog 2247 - Sick Building Syndrome
Post by: Colin YNWA on 28 August, 2021, 09:09:38 PM
Quote from: MumboJimbo on 28 August, 2021, 08:57:39 PM
3 new thrills? It's a QJOP! (Quasi-Jumping On Prog)

Its more like filling the gaps before a relaunch BUT Tharg is getting better at this and he's filling it with decent stuff.

Dredd is magnificent - Kenneth Neimand seems to be finding another beat for his drum, which is just what he needed to do. This one is creepy as hell and therefore Nick Percival's art is perfect for it.

Skip Tracer has another good episode - okay so 'Don't you ever... say... her... name." gets its standard hard man movie cliche in  - but aside from that its very good.

Dexter has another great episode as Ray and Finny come face to face and we get a surprise return.

Both these thrills are cranking up the... well thrills as they head toward their ends before 2250 (i assume).

3riller - The Mask of Laverna - rattles though some set up in an effective manner that just forgets to give us a hook to really care. Its interesting I'm just no bought in just having been interesting by a lot of events, not characters yet.

Jaegir in its opener gives us all the character we need and man is Jaegir's going down an even darker path and at the end... well is this going to be the very zenith of 'daddy issues'? Who knows yet but its a grimly entertaining journey finding out.

When I looked through this prior to reading I got a little heavy hearted it just screamed pre-jump on Prog filler... then I read it and it screamed thriller. Good stuff Tharg.
Title: Re: Prog 2247 - Sick Building Syndrome
Post by: The Corinthian on 29 August, 2021, 11:47:35 AM
Given that they're both back in the strip at the same time is there any reason why it's not yet being called 'Sinister Dexter' again.
Title: Re: Prog 2247 - Sick Building Syndrome
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 29 August, 2021, 12:52:29 PM
Quote from: The Corinthian on 29 August, 2021, 11:47:35 AM
Given that they're both back in the strip at the same time is there any reason why it's not yet being called 'Sinister Dexter' again.

I thought it seemed fairly clear that Sinister was dead, and this is basically his technologically-reanimated corpse. (Which isn't to say they won't deprogramme him by the end and return to the usual shenanigans, but at the current stage in the story, it's still Dexter's strip, I feel.)
Title: Re: Prog 2247 - Sick Building Syndrome
Post by: Leigh S on 29 August, 2021, 01:14:11 PM
Am I mmisremebering the Sinsiter focuses episodes are called "SInister" and vice versa?  Presumably, once reunited the title will return..

More Neimand?  Neice! 
Title: Re: Prog 2247 - Sick Building Syndrome
Post by: Richard on 29 August, 2021, 04:30:59 PM
The strip is only called Sinister Dexter when they're partners. When they're adversaries it's called something else (see Downlode Tales).
Title: Re: Prog 2247 - Sick Building Syndrome
Post by: Barrington Boots on 31 August, 2021, 11:07:23 AM
Post bank-holiday, post-Regened Prog review. Tbh this one, on the whole, didn't sparkle for me.

Dredd - it's a set up episode and feels like a bit of an ordinary start, but has potential to be cool: I'm puzzled by Dredd telling the other judge to disregard spooky stories of the haunted block when he himself spends a load of time fighting all sorts of supernatural stuff.. I'm not a fan of Nick Percivals art myself as I find it feels a bit static, but that's very much a personal thing and I can't deny the craft at work here.

Skip Tracer it's cliche-fest sadly, but there are some terrific panels here using Nimrod's cyber-eye: the one at the top of page 3 is great! Really enjoyed this episode visually.

Dexter same as before really, all interest has been sucked out of this especially with one protagonist (antagonist now, I suppose) now unkillable. Some lovely kinetic violence in the art on the final page however.

3riller - Sets the story up and it's ready to kick off. I remember enjoying the previous Thriller with Delphi but can't actually remember much about it so I need to go back and reread that, I think. Cool art from Steven Austin - I'd actually quite like to see this in black and white.

Jaegir Delighted to see this back and things certainly seem to have taken a darker turn. The Nordland looks superbly dour and the Norts themselves remain all impressively ugly, and I liked the holographic conversation / flashback giving us the backstory. Atalia going full on baddie seems soul-crushingly inevitable - I'd read a strip about Klaur and Reesa having adventures if it came to it though. This is a grim story and I am really into it: the downside being I'm assuming we're only getting three episodes, if 2250 is a jumping on Prog, or am I wrong?
Title: Re: Prog 2247 - Sick Building Syndrome
Post by: broodblik on 31 August, 2021, 11:35:06 AM
Quote from: Barrington Boots on 31 August, 2021, 11:07:23 AM
Jaegir ....the downside being I'm assuming we're only getting three episodes, if 2250 is a jumping on Prog, or am I wrong?

Yes 2250 is a jump-on but it ight not be the case that Jaegir is only 3 episodes it might even end in 2250. Lasyt year's jump-on-prog contained the third part of the Sin/Dex story. I really like Jaegir so hopefully we can have more than less
Title: Re: Prog 2247 - Sick Building Syndrome
Post by: broodblik on 01 September, 2021, 04:09:26 AM
Well, here are with the start of a mini run into the 2250 event. The new stories do give the prog a fresher feel, whereas the previous run just felt a little it was missing something.

Dredd – Good start to the new story and the right artist is providing the visuals, nice and creepy. I would love to see Nick doing a regen story.

Skip – Action full episode as Nolan and Nimrod fights it out and soon baby Nolan will come to the rescue. Great art by Marshall

Dexter – As Sinister's hunt for "revenge" continues the story heats up with an interesting end to this episode.

The Mask of Laverna – Another thriller that has a return, this one has an interesting premises.

Jaegir –  A dark twisted start to the new arc and Coleby is on song, great start. I would really like a more prolonged run of Jaegir and hopefully this story will be ignition to it.
Title: Re: Prog 2247 - Sick Building Syndrome
Post by: Richard on 01 September, 2021, 10:47:11 AM
No more Skip Tracer please.

I love Nick Percival's art. Always happy to see Ken Niemand in the prog too.
Title: Re: Prog 2247 - Sick Building Syndrome
Post by: The Corinthian on 01 September, 2021, 01:34:50 PM
There's an odd colouring error on page 3 of 'The Path of Kali', where the GI (Rosario?) is given normal human skin tones for her first appearance. Rogue Trooper's been around for 40 years now, you'd think everyone would know they're blue by now.

I am going to be mildly annoyed if it turns out Jaegir is only 3-4 episodes after sitting through what feels like 89 weeks of Skip Tracer.
Title: Re: Prog 2247 - Sick Building Syndrome
Post by: broodblik on 01 September, 2021, 01:54:27 PM
The cover in B/W as a sketch:

(https://2000ad.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/House-Bleaker-Street_Cover_Part-1_sketch-1-783x1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Prog 2247 - Sick Building Syndrome
Post by: broodblik on 01 September, 2021, 02:18:19 PM
Quote from: The Corinthian on 01 September, 2021, 01:34:50 PM
I am going to be mildly annoyed if it turns out Jaegir is only 3-4 episodes after sitting through what feels like 89 weeks of Skip Tracer.

I do not want to burst your bubble but Jaegir looks like a 3 part story. Prog 2250 features 7 "new" stories
Title: Re: Prog 2247 - Sick Building Syndrome
Post by: norton canes on 01 September, 2021, 05:58:26 PM
Pretty good for a semi-jumping on prog (a 'semi-on'? perhaps not)

A promising start to 'The House on Bleaker Street' - and how very Niemand to imbue the titular towers with a personality. Love the way Dredd casually exhorts his junior colleague to catch the plunging infant. Sure thing, sir! Let me just extend a Chimpsky-esque limb and pluck him from the air! Couldn't be simpler!

Quote from: Barrington Boots on 31 August, 2021, 11:07:23 AM
I'm puzzled by Dredd telling the other judge to disregard spooky stories of the haunted block when he himself spends a load of time fighting all sorts of supernatural stuff..

Well, yes, but equally, I suppose he's hardly likely to tell his subordinate they're about to embark upon one of the most dangerous and terrifying escapades of their lives. (Or perhaps that's exactly the sort of thing Dredd would do..?)

Jaegir goes straight for the jugular, as usual. It's been fantastic to have the Rennie droid consistently in the prog of late. 

Quote from: The Corinthian on 01 September, 2021, 01:34:50 PM
There's an odd colouring error on page 3 of 'The Path of Kali', where the GI (Rosario?) is given normal human skin tones for her first appearance

I can only assume that the surfeit of cyan already in that frame put the O'Grady droid off its game!

Dexter continues to be a joy, it's really benefitted from a run of more than a couple of weeks. I mean plot-wise it's all a load of clichés but it's done with such elan. Klinks is the robot that guarded their apartment, right..?

BTW I was so intrigued as to how the Abnett droid came up with a name like 'Vegvísir' that I Googled it; turns out it's an "Icelandic magical stave intended to help the bearer find their way through rough weather". I mean you guys all knew that already, yeah?

The 3riller was decent enough; like most of us I had to go back to progs 2215-17 (not 2217 Tharg, come on, it's a 3riller, there's a clue in the name) to remind myself how the last one played out... suffice to say, I'm hoping for an equally gruesome and gratuitous payoff in a couple of weeks' time.

Is it bad of me to say that Skip Tracer always seems better when there's less dialogue?
Title: Re: Prog 2247 - Sick Building Syndrome
Post by: Richard on 01 September, 2021, 06:46:44 PM
Skip Tracer always seems better when there's less of all of it.
Title: Re: Prog 2247 - Sick Building Syndrome
Post by: Barrington Boots on 02 September, 2021, 11:20:59 AM
Quote from: norton canes on 01 September, 2021, 05:58:26 PM
BTW I was so intrigued as to how the Abnett droid came up with a name like 'Vegvísir' that I Googled it; turns out it's an "Icelandic magical stave intended to help the bearer find their way through rough weather". I mean you guys all knew that already, yeah?

Great spot! Perhaps shamefully I didn't give the strip my full attention and missed this. Always impressed by stuff like this: the story may feel like it's on autopilot but Dan Abnett certainly isn't.

As to Skip Tracer... with all but it's staunchest defenders turning on it now, surely it must be the last run this gets?
Title: Re: Prog 2247 - Sick Building Syndrome
Post by: Link Prime on 02 September, 2021, 11:29:01 AM
Quote from: Barrington Boots on 02 September, 2021, 11:20:59 AM
As to Skip Tracer... with all but it's staunchest defenders turning on it now, surely it must be the last run this gets?

Not until Tharg gets those negatives back from Peaty.
Title: Re: Prog 2247 - Sick Building Syndrome
Post by: broodblik on 02 September, 2021, 12:06:19 PM
I like bursting bubbles but this will be on the last page of the last episode of Skip:

The End
Skip Tracer returns soon in 'Do not fear friends I have multiple adventures and will gladly share with you....'
Title: Re: Prog 2247 - Sick Building Syndrome
Post by: Alien Goodness on 02 September, 2021, 12:21:05 PM
Referring to the Dexter story - who is Klinks?
Title: Re: Prog 2247 - Sick Building Syndrome
Post by: broodblik on 02 September, 2021, 12:45:14 PM
Her first appearance was in prog 2019. She is a robot that is a janitor, cleaner, function coordinator as well as a security system. Her full name is Kalinka.
Title: Re: Prog 2247 - Sick Building Syndrome
Post by: The Corinthian on 02 September, 2021, 06:37:04 PM
Quote from: broodblik on 02 September, 2021, 12:06:19 PM
I like bursting bubbles but this will be on the last page of the last episode of Skip:

The End
Skip Tracer returns soon in 'Do not fear friends I have multiple adventures and will gladly share with you....'


'2000AD Featuring Skip Tracer'
Title: Re: Prog 2247 - Sick Building Syndrome
Post by: Alien Goodness on 02 September, 2021, 06:59:55 PM
Quote from: broodblik on 02 September, 2021, 12:45:14 PM
Her first appearance was in prog 2019. She is a robot that is a janitor, cleaner, function coordinator as well as a security system. Her full name is Kalinka.
Thanks broodblik  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Prog 2247 - Sick Building Syndrome
Post by: Sean SD on 04 September, 2021, 09:21:56 AM
My Top 3 for Prog 2247

Enjoyed this prog with all stories having something to offer.

1st - Dredd - Creepy story with matching art by Nick Percival but not in Deadworld, cool!

2nd - 3riller - The Mask of Laverna - another creepy story that got my attention, perfect for a 3riller

3rd - Jaegir - Great to see this thrill back with Coleby and O'Grady doing their Nu Earth thing which they do so well.
Title: Re: Prog 2247 - Sick Building Syndrome
Post by: Proudhuff on 08 September, 2021, 01:44:24 PM
Quote from: Barrington Boots on 31 August, 2021, 11:07:23 AM
Post bank-holiday, post-Regened Prog review. Tbh this one, on the whole, didn't sparkle for me.

Dredd - it's a set up episode and feels like a bit of an ordinary start, but has potential to be cool: I'm puzzled by Dredd telling the other judge to disregard spooky stories of the haunted block when he himself spends a load of time fighting all sorts of supernatural stuff.. I'm not a fan of Nick Percivals art myself as I find it feels a bit static, but that's very much a personal thing and I can't deny the craft at work here.

Skip Tracer it's cliche-fest sadly, but there are some terrific panels here using Nimrod's cyber-eye: the one at the top of page 3 is great! Really enjoyed this episode visually.

Dexter same as before really, all interest has been sucked out of this especially with one protagonist (antagonist now, I suppose) now unkillable. Some lovely kinetic violence in the art on the final page however.

3riller - Sets the story up and it's ready to kick off. I remember enjoying the previous Thriller with Delphi but can't actually remember much about it so I need to go back and reread that, I think. Cool art from Steven Austin - I'd actually quite like to see this in black and white.

Jaegir Delighted to see this back and things certainly seem to have taken a darker turn. The Nordland looks superbly dour and the Norts themselves remain all impressively ugly, and I liked the holographic conversation / flashback giving us the backstory. Atalia going full on baddie seems soul-crushingly inevitable - I'd read a strip about Klaur and Reesa having adventures if it came to it though. This is a grim story and I am really into it: the downside being I'm assuming we're only getting three episodes, if 2250 is a jumping on Prog, or am I wrong?

This for me too ^^^
Title: Re: Prog 2247 - Sick Building Syndrome
Post by: Proudhuff on 08 September, 2021, 01:46:06 PM
Quote from: The Corinthian on 01 September, 2021, 01:34:50 PM
I am going to be mildly annoyed if it turns out Jaegir is only 3-4 episodes after sitting through what feels like 89 weeks of Skip Tracer.


and this!
Title: Re: Prog 2247 - Sick Building Syndrome
Post by: Funt Solo on 15 December, 2021, 05:28:35 PM
Quote from: The Corinthian on 01 September, 2021, 01:34:50 PM
There's an odd colouring error on page 3 of 'The Path of Kali', where the GI (Rosario?) is given normal human skin tones for her first appearance. Rogue Trooper's been around for 40 years now, you'd think everyone would know they're blue by now.

Ah - that had me a bit confused as well - I was getting mixed up between the hologram coloring, the normal skin tones and the GI skin tones.


Quote from: The Corinthian on 01 September, 2021, 01:34:50 PM
I am going to be mildly annoyed if it turns out Jaegir is only 3-4 episodes after sitting through what feels like 89 weeks of Skip Tracer.

I can't remember what cynic I'm quoting, but "90% of everything is shit". For an example of this in action, check out YouTube's "free with ads" page.