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General Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: maryanddavid on 25 June, 2005, 06:46:31 AM

Title: bonfires
Post by: maryanddavid on 25 June, 2005, 06:46:31 AM
it was bonfires night last night(23rd) here in the west of ireland, was just wondering if any part of britain has the same tradition.
im pretty sure its confined here in ireland to the west of the country.
anyway a good night was had, fires blazing and a few drinks under the stars, nice way to while away a thursday night.

david

 
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Title: Re: bonfires
Post by: Max Kon on 25 June, 2005, 07:12:41 AM
on the 5th of November
Title: Re: bonfires
Post by: Richmond Clements on 25 June, 2005, 03:57:15 PM
*A-hem*
12th July.
Title: Re: bonfires
Post by: Buddy on 25 June, 2005, 04:07:53 PM
But rac, Isn't every night bonfire night in Norn Iron?
Title: Re: bonfires
Post by: Richmond Clements on 25 June, 2005, 04:13:11 PM
Heh.
Well it has been for the past month or so.
Title: Re: bonfires
Post by: ukdane on 25 June, 2005, 06:10:44 PM
We have the tradition in Denmark.
Title: Re: bonfires
Post by: Conexus on 25 June, 2005, 06:27:52 PM
odd, would a thought all  traditonal bonfire nights would be in the autumn or winter, and definately not summer.Only goes to show, I guess
Title: Re: bonfires
Post by: ukdane on 25 June, 2005, 06:47:26 PM
We burn a witch, on a huge bonfire, on mid-summers night eve.

Kind of rolls bonfire night, halloween, and Guy Fawkes into one evening.

Title: Re: bonfires
Post by: Max Kon on 25 June, 2005, 06:53:56 PM
just goes to show what a backward people the danes are, still carrying out witch trials
Title: Re: bonfires
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 25 June, 2005, 08:48:47 PM
On the 5th of November

Indeed, Guy Fawkes Night, when a effigy of Guy is burned on a big bonfire.

Don't know why, as he was Hung, Drawn and Quartered - the English regarded burning at the stake as rather vulgar for some reason.

And his real name wasn't Guy, it was Guido.
Title: Re: bonfires
Post by: Bico on 25 June, 2005, 09:30:33 PM
*Well it has been for the past month or so.*

All part of our glorious tradition of putting the shits up the taigs on the flimsiest of pretexts - that we have a holiday that fetishises the killing of a catholic (nov 5th) apparantly isn't enough for some sections of the community.

The new Tesco store that opened beside my house has recently been decorated with union jacks and UVF flags, so if those are taken down I can look forward to a few more bonfires than usual.
Title: Re: bonfires
Post by: Lord Running Clam on 25 June, 2005, 10:59:53 PM
I may not be remembering this right,but I heard somewhere that Guy Fawkes night was a pagen holiday that because it was popular with the masses the church & state changed its meaning to a celebration of stopping parliament being blown up,so that they didn't need to get rid of it.Kind of like what they did with Mardi Gras.
Title: Re: bonfires
Post by: Bico on 25 June, 2005, 11:36:58 PM
And April Fool's Day, Christmas, Valentine's and (to a lesser extent) Halloween - which was a deeply important time of year for pagans, and now it's a party for kids.  Nowt wrong with that, though.
Title: Re: bonfires
Post by: Buddy on 26 June, 2005, 12:56:34 AM
Bear, where's that Tesco?
Title: Re: bonfires
Post by: maryanddavid on 26 June, 2005, 02:11:41 AM
do you do guy fawkes in the north?
 anyone remember the guy falks mask that came every year with whizzer and chip and buster etc?i remember using it as a halloween mask.

Title: Re: bonfires
Post by: Bico on 26 June, 2005, 04:33:13 AM
Umpty - Cookstown, on the Orritor Road.
Title: Re: bonfires
Post by: House of Usher on 26 June, 2005, 06:29:56 PM
Don't know why, as he was Hung, Drawn and Quartered

If I remember correctly, ultimately all the little bits of Guy Fawkes were thrown on a fire. I think they boiled them in water first. Like a cannibal stew.
Title: Re: bonfires
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 26 June, 2005, 09:58:14 PM
As far as burning bits goes, after the hanging (this was never meant to kill them, they were cut down just before the point of death so as to still be alive during the REALLY nasty bits) before the entrails and such like were taken out during the 'drawing' process, the genitals of all the conspirators were all cut off and deliberately burnt in front of their eyes.

You know, just to really rub it in.
Title: Re: bonfires
Post by: the3rdman on 27 June, 2005, 05:31:17 AM
generally our bbq's are quieter than that, few burgers and the odd sausage. the kids would go mad if i started roasting bollocks.
Title: Re: bonfires
Post by: dave@eatmyhat.co.uk on 29 June, 2005, 05:40:54 AM
Why the 23rd in the west of Ireland ?

It's the 5th of November in the UK to celebrate the 'gunpowder plot' right ? The plot to blow up the houses of parliament by Guy Fawkes ...
Title: Re: bonfires
Post by: johnnystress on 29 June, 2005, 04:39:06 PM
It's a pagan/ soltice type thing on the 23rd

though where im from its called O?che Fheil' Eoin- St. Johns' Eve- another example of Christianity usurping old pagan festivals


St. John must have been the patron saint of booze, smoke filled eyes and disposing of household rubbish
Title: Re: bonfires
Post by: Tanky on 29 June, 2005, 04:55:50 PM
The nearest wiccan/pagan festie i know of round then is the New Year, Samhain, more commonly known as Hallowe'en. There's 8 sabbats a year and they come round about every 6 weeks or so. The Autumn Equinox (Madron) is the one before and that's 21st September.

Not sure if that's any help whatsoever!

Tanky x
Title: Re: bonfires
Post by: Funt Solo on 29 June, 2005, 05:07:50 PM
The Wickerman Festival

(Probably a good idea not to be an uptight christian policeman if you're going to this one.)
Title: Re: bonfires
Post by: Tanky on 29 June, 2005, 05:11:43 PM
Cool!

There is such a thing, but these guys have got the wrong end of the stick - Bonfires and wickermen(sans people and chickens these days!) are burnt on Beltane (1st May) As it's the festie of the fire God, Bel.