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i have some questions concerning a certain something.i need any information at all concerning effects + side effects  therefore resulting from direct or indirect use of certain something for educational purposes only.   i am not giving anymore away yet as i am not aware of any protocols that i may or may not break concerning certain subjects while being on the messge board.        ......i just hope this doesnt sound weird.i am just being very cautious as i am new here + i dont want to send any ripples through anything.i just need to know if i can either speak freely.what are the boundries basically.     if you want me to just get to the point then i will .just ask.

Is it amphetamine?

Are you on drugs?

Hah! I was beginning to notice a certain amount of unwarranted verbosity in peterwolf's many many posts.

When you're finished hoovering the roof of your house, peterwolf, let us know what's bothering you, they're an easygoing bunch here.

Look up wikipedia for a general overview of the positive and negative effects of various recreational drugs - but be aware that wikipedia is not a peer reviewed resource (which is why I said "general overview").

Any specific questions - go ahead.  

Unless those questions are along the lines of "I met a mad Russan the other day aqnd was wondering How do you cut 100kg of 'H'." because that would be from a film or something

Are you French?

Have you been taking "D" from the movie A Scanner Darkly?

Its Viagra aint it, sure it is. Dont be shy.

no it is ketamine.

no not at all,apart from the occasional single paper spliff.i am not really a drug person apart from that as i dont think i need them at all especially cocaine +speed etc as i am like that anyway.

No, it's Ritalin isn't it?

Not drugs...  OK, is it:

- downloading music illegally?  
- watching pornography?
- bestiality?
- reading too many progs over a short period of time?

that was good!i do talk too much sometimes though.

Is it wearing really tight socks? If so the worst side effect is a mark on your ankle.

thanks for all the replies but just to make things crystal clear i am not a drug user in any way apart from the spliffs i mentioned earlier.also dont forget i live in brighton where just about anything goes.i decided a long time ago that apart from very occaisonal use they were best avoided as a habit.   + secondly i do have a proffessional life + reputation + also i am out of control enough as it is!!

Is it filling a polythene bag with warm liver trapping it under the toilet lid and fucking it like a porn star on Coke?

If so then no side effects unless you count the shame and emptiness you're left with afterwards.

Or is that just me?

its funny you should say that as although there was no ritalin when i went to school i was just the type who they may have perscribed it too.they wouldnt have got very far as i would have put up a fight. i take it you know that ritalin  is a government sponsored drug + that it is being overperscribed to children without proper research being done..i certainly would never let children near it myself..i could go on but i wont.  

lots of posts to reply to!so finally has anyone here ever taken ketamine?do you know anyone else who does?i took it once 2 weeks ago here + one of those present at the party is a heavy special k[ketamine] user [once or twice a week i believe].i dont ever want it again ever as it was just a one off but my friend will almost certainly be ruining his mental + physical health + i am a little concerned about this.   just wondered if any of you could help with any info if you have any.

Why don't you light up a spliff, sit down and think about it.

Better yet, go buy some liver.

"Is it filling a polythene bag with warm liver trapping it under the toilet lid and fucking it like a porn star on Coke?"

That made me laugh so hard a baked bean nearly came out of my nose.

i cant answer that yet but i am just going to try it for myself to see.i will give you an update later.

Peter, you sound like you need help. Call these guys, Get Connected: 0808 808 4994 - UK, number, completely confidential, they will be able to help. Web link below.

Link: getconnected

i just have.

i will do just that..

thanks its great to get a helpful reply like that.

i just cant stand liver or anything like that at all.much worse is the thought of eating it.

the main reason for verbiosity is that i have never used chatrooms before until this one + i am just not that used to condensing my thoughts into print.this will happen naturally as i post things .i am aware that this can be a problem so please just be patient.

thanks for the helpful post.i will do so.peter.

i do know of a very safe way to get large amounts of certain things into this country but i am not going to give anymore away.also i am not in that line of business so thats as far as it will ever go..

Peter, this isn't a chatroom. It's a message board forum.

If you want a real time chat, click on 'Database Chat Room' at the top of the message board and a new window will open up. If you wait there long enough, someone else may pop in to chat sooner or later.

i have just looked that up.it sounds scary....never again although i didnt recognise the side effcts being similar to what i experienced at all.in truth i didnt notice it that much at all.perhaps i am just weird.

yes i realise that now+ i am learning fast.not interested in real time chat at the moment but the message board is very enjoyable + has been very entertaining at times as i have been next to the computer a lot the last few days as i have been having a quiet patch workwise.also i have been drawing for the art comp.its just that i stop forbreaks + have enjoyed posting.i hope i havnt  been a pain.

One should remain aware that illicit drugs are not always what the seller claims or believes them to be.

That, and wikipedia entries are often un-cited, which makes them about as reliable as the opinion of that bloke on the bus, or a taxi driver, or anyone else who makes things up when they don't know the answer (ie nearly everyone on the planet).

I could tell you about my experiences on ketamine - but I have no idea if that's what I actually took.  It might have been pure mdma.  It might have been mdma and ketamine.  Or speed and ketamine.  Or...

I don't know - but I do know it made the stairs look like an impossible escalator that was both going up and down at the same time.  And various other odd things happened that are far more entertaining when you read about them in something like Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

"That, and wikipedia entries are often un-cited, which makes them about as reliable as the opinion of that bloke on the bus, or a taxi driver, or anyone else who makes things up when they don't know the answer"

You mean the Wiki dealers are mixing facts up with all kinds of other stuff to make it look like there's more?

"i live in brighton where just about anything goes"

I absolutely dreeeeeam of a life of Babylonian excess! I must have taken a wrong turn somewhere, especially as I started out in Brighton and ended up in Cardiff...

hi there yes theres loads of disinformation around but i try not to listen to any...          this was definatly ketamine though..    heres the story:first of all i had 1 line of coke first of all.later i had a half line of a coke /ketamine cocktail somewhat reluctantly never having had k before.didnt really notice much but stayed up until the last had left at 7.00 am.i went to bed ,got up at about 12.30pm to clear everything up. while doing this i found the dishes that were used for the class As and as i cleared them i noticed that oneof them had quite a lot of  off white powder in it.had a taste,definatly not coke i thought,must be k then.so i then licked the bowl clean as i thought that i always like to try things once just to see.... anyway i then noticed that although i never had any hallucinations everything seemed to have a very subtle unreal quality to it like a very mild dose of lsd.i can say now that 2 weeks later up to today it is finally wearing off. interesting but never again thanks.                       Disclaimer: this house isnt a drug den.its just what happens at parties.     i cant wait for the posts to come in.i think i know what they will be like. dont worry drugs or no drugs, i am always like this!!!  [i have only ever had coke 4 times in my life]

Maybe it was Daz. I hear Cillit Bang has a bit of a kick to it too.

it might have been as i have been "clean" ever since!!!!

Wow....

This is a thread that our own Mr. Thryllseeker could be proud of. You aren't related to him by any chance, Peter?

Reminds me of that scene in The Young Ones where they're trying to do their laundry for the first time ever:

Mike: Now, "make sure that the door is firmly closed" -- no, we've done that -- right, "fill the tray with powder" -- Powder! What do they mean, "powder"? Gunpowder, curry powder, cocaine? I mean, what's on their minds?

Neil: Maybe they mean washing powder, Mike. Um...Oh, look, maybe if we got all the horrid sludgy bits out of the other machines we could get enough.

thats just what i want to get away from.i share this house with 1 other+there are visitors round the whole time.it just gets too much sometimes as it is mostly constant yap.i often retreat to escape it.  as in right now..it has just been fun posting here lately.

i am not sure yet but the name is familiar already. I am glad to know others are getting something out of it all as nothing would please me more than that.  Its just so enjoyable being having a laugh with you all.

Well to be honest hedonistic people just get boring after a while as it is all they talk about + they always thimk its so clever. Honestly i have seen too much harm done with it all that i have mostly turned my back on it now apart from the odd occaison. i have mostly stopped going out in Brighton and i now only really entertain at home.   I just cant stand the people here at all.

I have actually had to do that before. I might have to watch some of that again.

I'm sure all boarders have learnt at lot from this... I, for one, will never touch any drug ever again...

I've given up tea after reading this thread.

Glad to be of help.   No harm done to myself this time and anyway it was just a one off. I quite enjoyed the effect it had but like i said it was a one off.      There is a huge difference between drug use and abuse.   A lot of people are not aware of this unfortunatly  but hey its their life and i am not going to preach to them as they never listen anyway.

"Just say no"

"no"

"Just say, NO"

You are zammo and I claim my free wrap!

where did this come from??  i cant get hold of product like this stuff!  I want to know where this shit is coming from and who is bringing it in!     I am going to lose it all if i dont get some.              It will be all over the streets in no time.....

Anyone know where to score any Triple Sod, Clarky Cat or Yellow Benteens?

CAKE!!!!

"I hear Cillit Bang has a bit of a kick to it too."

Link: You might be right...

I can get cake.   just ask.

>"I hear Cillit Bang has a bit of a kick to it too."

By the same people who brought you this piece of genius...

Link: Calm down dear...

    Theres a blizzard of this stuff around now from what i have seen and heard and an awful lot of users of it.   they must be bonkers if not they soon will be at the rate they are carrying on.    For example i saw a couple snorting lines one immediatly after the other from a mirror that was on the floor. Degenerates and they were in their early twenties.This cant be doing them any good    still its their lives.....      It may have been an adverse reaction as i have only used it once but i had an accelerated heart rate at sporadic intervals + various other effects that lasted 2 weeks which was a concern however it has all gone now just about.   Its also very big in the gay community so i am told.   Its just like when Ecstacy took in the mainstream years ago  but i think K is much more harmful.

         Is anyone else finding that this is the case?

         

For me the greatest deterent to drug use is the tiresome, self indulgant wasters who use the shit.

No interest and no sympathy either, it's not as if the long term effects are some kind of state secret.

Zammo losing Jackie was all the education I ever needed.

        Thanks as that is exactly my point with these people.occaisonal use i can relate to but i cant understand this lot.    These people are not my friends anyway, just dickheads that i know of unfortunatly.    I keep better company than that, as people like that are going nowhere fast.
                            A lot of these people are so weak that they take stuff just because all their friends do it too and dont want to feel left out.

                       I

       I just have to tell this story:     When i was 15 i was at school in the lunch hour.  I was around the playing fields and i noticed mushrooms growing that i knew were Magic Mushrooms.      So i ate quite a lot of them not knowing the effects they would have.   They began to take effect ,and it just got to the point that  there was no way i could go back into the school.         So in the end i just went to the woods that i lived next to and just killed the time that it took for them to wear off before i could go home at all.   I did enjoy it as well very much as well .    I got home quite late and had to lie that i was at a friends house all that time.


              I told my mum and dad about this quite recently and they even found it amusing although they do have an anti drug stance generally as is sensible of course.

Has to be done.

Link: Just say no!

         I always do except for the odd occaison as i find once i have tried something then i dont need to keep doing it.   I once shared a communal house once with The Levellers before they were famous and some other musicians and was surrounded by various things .Even then i didnt bother much except we all did a communal mushroom trip once as they had been picking that day.    It was an absolute madhouse that place and one of the first plcaes i lived after leaving home.       They were the original crusties although i was never a crustie myself i might add.

I used to drink Jim Beam with my friends, but I did like it at the time and still would. Only I haven't touched a drop of that stuff in about seven years.

   Have you stopped drinking altogether?

i was never a crustie myself i might add

I'm very pleased to hear it.

"I always do except for the odd occaison"

So you don't always say no, then.

Nothing can compare to the side effects or pure Thrill Power! Ahem.

M@

i was never a crustie myself i might add.

I was. It was fun and messy --:)

Anyhoo, ketamine is VERY VERY BAD FOR YOU and I personally wouldn't touch it with someone else's.

            As time goes by i just get less interested in these things. i only ever tripped a few times anyway.   I only drink in moderation and i only drink cider and virtually nothing else.
    i honestly think that moderation is the best policy here. and i am quite health conscious.

      I only have a small amount of  cannabis each week and i only smoke single paper spliffs.    That really is it.
             I never drink enoughto get drunk either and if ido i can handle it and can behave unlike most people who clearly cant but thats another story.

        The ketamine incident was a total one off as i never want to see it again and quite honestly i am appalled at what i have heard and seen about that recently so i am quite conservative i suppose.

            It was a laugh at first but in the end i couldnt stand  the way they wanted to live in filth and all that not washing business.   Yuk
     
          they just became a cliche that came and went as you never see them now.

      The only good thing about them was that they were political.

         you ought to try living with them!

The only good thing about them was that they were political

Well I, for one, am very intrigued. In what way were they political? What political beliefs did they profess; did they have a manifesto; and what practical course of action did their political beliefs suggest?

1/ Get fucked up on cider and magic mushrooms, crash out at foxhunts and call it 'sabotage'.

2/ Get fucked up on cider and magic mushrooms, crash out at political demonstrations and call it 'protesting'

3/ Get fucked up on cider and magic mushrooms, and adopt a (correct me if I use the wrong term here- what with me being a foreigner an all) 'West Country' accent.

4/ Get fucked up on magic mushrooms. Shit yourself

5/ Live in a 'squat', which is really some place mum and dad will buy for you when 'studying'(ie: getting fucked up on cider and magic mushrooms) and call it a 'commune'.

Here ends the manifesto of the crusty party.
Now go back to your muddy fields and prepare for... getting fucked up on cider and magic mushrooms!

         Well apart from getting pissed, they did have a go when the criminal justice act was being legislated . This was a law stopping raves ,mass gatherings,squatting,travellers, etc.   It was just a reaction to the problems that were caused by conservatives in the first place.their policys created a socio/ economic underclass which still exists today.Travelling and squatting was a necessity for some a s that was their way of life.When the free festival circuit was going here the travellers would make their money then and just live for the rest of the year.This was all fine as they were fine in those days even thoughthey were relentlessly persecuted by the establishment.

   If you want to see a good example of  police brutality against mothers and young children and animals and whokesale trashing of peoples lives then you should search for and watch the footage from the battle of the beanfield as it was called.  If its not on youtube then it should be.   I guarantee you its not nice viewing at all.

   Its just fascism, plain and simple.

there was a lot of protesting then but people are getting more docile all the time now for some reason i dont understand yet.

  This happened because they were growing in numbers and were becoming autonomous and organised[same thing].   from the governments point of view this was unnaceptable so although society had rejected them or vice versa they were stamped on for trying to help themselves.   A lot of other people started to join in ,but they didnt understand the traveller way of life so the whole thing just degenerated from then for all the usual reasons and then the whole rave culture sort of took over  and it just span out of control but of course i blame the government but also i blame the people who trashed other peoples property and left a trail of devastation wherever they went as they just had no respect for themselves or others.   I personally didnt like rave culture any way. I always hated rave music and can see why there was a problem with it, but providing they didnt trash places and cleaned up then why shouldnt they have parties?  both sides just ruined it.

        So thats why i say crusties where political.

for whatever reasons i say i didnt like them i will still give them their credit if they deserve it.

    Anyone who says fuck you to the government is my friend even if they smell.

                                                                   Peter.

    why let those cockaroaches walk all over you

      take the magic mushrooms first just for a change .

Cheers for that, Peter. I felt like a bastard for challenging your avowal of the Levellers' political activism so brutally, and I'm glad you stood up for them so manfully instead of just telling me to f*** off. Thanks for taking it in good humour.

You give a very good summary of Thatcher-era counter-culture social history as I remember it. I remember seeing news footage of the police brutality of the Miners' Strike, the Battle of the Beanfield and the Trafalgar Square Poll Tax Riot very well, and I was disgusted by it.

Dog Deever's manifesto made me laugh big time, and sounds pretty authentic into the bargain.

"Anyone who says fuck you to the government is my friend even if they smell"

...which might, ultimately end up looking a bit like this:

Link: Green Anarchist politics (The Levellers)

Seconded. Bravo peterwolf and Dogdeever who are both right. The big CJB demo was the most fun I have ever had on a rally. Didn't do a damn bit of good though...

try living with them
I did. In a tatty bus. And I'm glad I did, it taught me a lot. If you asked me to do it again in this day and age though, I'd tell you to get stuffed! :) How are those lovely Levellers these days?

    Hi there       I havent had anything to do with them for years now. They do still live around here i think as they have a recording studio here called the metway centre. Thats all i know now   .       The other band was called Anton and the Aardvarks who have long since dispersed.    I do remember when Tab and Ben[from the aardvarks] did a bombscare once when the tories had a conference in brighton.   They somehow got caught and went to lewes prison for a month.    They were sick of boiled cabbage i remember them saying as that is mostly what they ate there.    

      I went to the CjB protest as well in hyde park. You just new it was going to explode.The fun started when it got dark. As you know the police deliberatly stir things up as that is their job to do that.  Anyway this is funny:  I was on the opposite side of an iron fence that was in park lane.  About a dozen riot police were on the other side of it.  They kept getting into formation and then charging us with shields etc.    Perhaps they just couldnt see the fence as they kept running up to it and then having to stop because of the fence.They kept doing this for some reason.  It was a bit wierd.  So any way we picked up a very heavy park bench, the type with concrete feet,lifted it over the fence and then dropped it on them just as they got to the fence.that made them move a bit. Give them something to think about.         I usually go to protests just to see what happens, i dont get involved in vandalism etc as it doesnt help.


    I went to that gardening protest that was in parliment square when the statue of churchill had a green mohican and everyone planted things there. It just looked like an allotment in the end with beanpoles and that and mcdonalds got trashed although i never actually saw it             peter.

 


 I didnt think you were being off at all,you just wanted to hear my reasoning i suppose,which is fair enough,and just telling you to fuck off isnt what i usually do. so no worries there. I di have a case that deserved to be heard.

          I am not an Anarchist either as i dont believe it could ever work, but i am anti establishment and have always been the same.     You have to be as they will fuck you over whenever they can.They have already done that now,since new labour got in ,but their time will come if they keep pushing their luck as they are doing at the moment.

                                                      Peter.

     What about all that cake that i ate .     I ate 4 very large slices of cake at someones party.

   I was very hungry and it was just sitting there saying eat me so i did except it was laced with cannabis and i didnt know until afterwards.

       enough said

   

             I found out yesterday that kids who dont know any better, think that when they are buying ecstacy are actually buying ketamine as they dont know the difference in what they are taking.    This is scary.

                    I am killing this thread now as i dont  wish to discuss drugs as it is depressing to hear stuff like that.

    This is the last time i will post on this thread.