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Judging by the lack of a review thread, I'm not the only one who's saturday prog didn't arrive. And there's no post on Monday - arse!

Aye, I was wondering the same...

I know it's hard to believe but I got mine (from the naughty shop owner) and it has a pic of Lobster Random on the cover (the one by Nic Percival with Lobster's head above a planet), Dredd uses his new eyes in a magnificent way in his strip and Langley just blows me away with the detail in the ABC Warriors. 6 pages of beautiful art and 4 pages taken up by splashes. If only all women who work in the construction/destruction industry dressed the way he has drawn them I would join in an instant!
Anyway it's Saturday so that's all for now

Buggeration! None in Paisley for the first time in many moons. I was genuinely disappointed. The fact that we won't see it 'til Monday is another boot in the stones.

May I enquire Commando, be there letters?

Quote from: "Buttonman"The fact that we won't see it 'til Monday is another boot in the stones.

None in Oxfordshire either!!!!! And no post on Monday!!!! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr  

Quote from: "Buttonman"May I enquire Commando, be there letters?

I am sorry to the bearer of bad news, There be NO letters this issue for you Buttonman. Although saying that, at least you can relax this week and spend your valuable time on something else (says me on a Saturday night stuck in with Sam while the missus is out with her mates )

Oh yeah I've invested my Saturday night in 'Warlock' - good investment. Pair of twats looking for an overdue library book - top stuff!

Quote from: "Buttonman"Oh yeah I've invested my Saturday night in 'Warlock'

Please tell me that you are not watching your 100 films that begin with the letter W

Quote from: "COMMANDO FORCES"I know it's hard to believe but I got mine

How do you do it CF? Are you the only one out there so far?

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Quote from: "Buttonman"Oh yeah I've invested my Saturday night in 'Warlock'

Please tell me that you are not watching your 100 films that begin with the letter W

I'm afraid to inform you that I was indeed watching one of my 100 'W' films. Quite enjoyed it, in a guilty way, to be honest.

Quote from: "dandontdare"How do you do it CF? Are you the only one out there so far?

I have mentioned it before, but the quick version is that a shop in my town that I went in one day, a few years back had a DVD on sale on before it was due for release the next Monday. I asked how and the shopkeeper said why not as we have it already. At a future date I noticed that 2000ad was in early, sadly it's not always in early.
He's an embargo buster, the naughty shopkeeper!

Quote from: "Buttonman"I'm afraid to inform you that I was indeed watching one of my 100 'W' films. Quite enjoyed it, in a guilty way, to be honest.

You are truly committed to your art Buttonman, or should that be you need to be committed

Got mine from local thrill merchant so it is out in the shops but haven't had chance to have a proper read of it yet. Although I did mis-read the ad on the back for 'The Clockwork King of Oral'....

I was quite mardy arsed to have my Saturday routine interrupted by lack of prog.

That is all.

Its a holiday weekend this week isn't it....wonder if it will affect my comics for this week

Quote from: "Matthew Vic"Got mine from local thrill merchant so it is out in the shops but haven't had chance to have a proper read of it yet. Although I did mis-read the ad on the back for 'The Clockwork King of Oral'....

Shops that early?

My subscription usually comes Saturday too but not today.

I went out and bought Meg 275 to tide me over. I don't get that usually but I was tempted by the new format and the extra comic. I'll state more detailed thoughts on that in the proper thread, but so far so good. On my way through the Jock Collection now.

Well not now, now, cos I'm typing this... but I'm sure you understand what I mean.

Got my sub. copy today, I expressed surprised to the postman who described his employers as "slave drivers". Presumably that's slave drivers who give double time and a day in lieu.

Still to read beyond the Dredd but ABC's look aces and you get your promised Lob return too. No letters confirmed!

Button, Not double time etc, the Posties in Scotland get 2nd january more or less instead of the ENGLISH bank holioday today.

no prog for me on Saturday, it might be at home but I'm at work because no Bank Hols in Jockland today.


Huff

Pleasantly surprised to get my Prog today after a no-show on Saturday.

Dredd and Red Seas are cracking.

Lobster Random starts well: I'm intrigued by a story I'm not normally keen on.

ABC Warriors benefits from the inclusion of Lemmy out of Motorhead, but really isn't helped by several pages of inane babble about metal bands. Strange.

Got the prog from FP yesterday, get in.
I just caught up with 10 weeks worth of progs because the last run really didn't do it for me, mainly due to not reading Dante and Sin Dex from the start. So I'm now back loving the prog.
Dredd, Red Seas, ABC & Lob Random are all aces.
Oh and we have Escape to Victory as well.
And as said Lemmy is in there warts an all.

Quote from: "Buttonman"No letters confirmed!

How could you doubt me

Quote from: "COMMANDO FORCES"

Quote from: "Buttonman"No letters confirmed!

How could you doubt me

Not everyone pays as close attention as they should. You may have been distracted by a Judge Dredd egg cup and failed to notice a three line bon mote hiding at the bottom of an ad page.

But you didn't and there wasn't.This time.

Quote from: "The Satanist"Oh and we have Escape to Victory as well.

It's more of a straight steal from 'Stalag 17' an excellent 1950's P.O.W drama that sees a group of men fighting both the Nazis and an unknown traitor in their ranks. I think the title is a nod to that. Hope it gets a bit more sci-fi soon or this will be looking like a reloaded Commando comic.

Stalag 17 IMDb here //http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046359/

Got mine today thanks to Scotland not having a bank holiday. A really good prog, everything was good for me, although the ABC Warriors' random metal conversation was very strange. I can also happily say I've converted a new reader! A friend of mine has discovered comics over the last couple of months and is loving them, but didn't want to pick up 2000AD because it had been running for too long. So I bought him last week's issue, thus forcing him to read it and he loved it(Stalag 666 seems to have been his favourite actually). Tharg would be proud of me I'm sure. God knows what he'll make of this week's, might be hard to follow for a newbie.

I got post today, but no prog. I am bereft.

I think we've been spoiled by Saturday progs.

- Trout

I got neither. At least that bodes well that the bank holiday is the reason, rather than just being lost...

The postal system on BHs is curious though, I guess different parts of the UK are more lenient to their workers. I'm based in the South East. Have any Southerners gotten their mail?

Finally got prog 1601 this morning.

Cover - Stunning Lobster headshot potrait by artist Nick Percival - cool detail and colours - I wanna see a moody Dredd by this guy!

Inside:
 Dredd - nice chunky Migonlaesque art from Walker - not much of a story climax, though I always trust Wagner to deliver the goods....

Red Seas - Solid as always - not sure people were saying "will do" in those days, but still a good read with Yeowell's best art since his Zenith days.

ABC warriors - Arrghh! attack of the crazy splash pages - but lovely stuff all the same!

Stalag 666 - Not sure on this one-  it looks and feels slightly amateurish for 2000AD

Lobster Random - Great start and cool to see him back at last....

Good strong prog overall and hope the standard is maintained ...

Oh boo hoo ladies!

Some of us don't get it until Mondays anyway, and then this week you English folk go and have your bank holiday, which means the progs don't get to Ireland until whenever. But I take it on the chin, me. When I was a lad I had to walk to school in the pissin rain with no shoes.....

Got prog 1601 this Monday morning ...

Cover - bit bitty, Mini-huff thought Random was a Wrestler!??

Inside:
Dredd - good fun Dredd, a feeling we've seen this before, but no doubt Mr W will pull it out of the bag, every faith


Red Seas - Great stuff [spoiler]wooden teeth[/spoiler] and all... Thought the teeth was going to be a techno thingy

ABC warriors - wooooah! those pages are messing with my melons mannn, great stuff, Pat's chats are fun too, long may it reign!

Stalag 666 - Not sure on this one not doing anything for me ARTIC-B prefer Ennis to do any WWII stuff even if its set in space

Lobster Random - Great start,  bit Basil but no doubt that's needed for some of us...

Good strong prog overall and hope the standard is maintained ...

Yes! Mine came today too.

Cover- Loverly. Well, ok, he isn't, but the picture is. If you follow me.

Dredd:  Good continuation as ever. That part where Dredd zooms in, is it the 'eye upgrade' he received last week? Or do Judges visors have that capability? (I'm thinking it's the former, as I think I remember a judge using binoculars (or futuristic equivalent) in the past.

Red Seas:  Great gags. A bit undecided about this script (mainly as I'm rather new to it.) but so far it's very intriguing.

ABC Warriors:  Lovely, lovely art. I'd have preferred a bit less of the splash pages and more story progression though. I was hoping that we'd see some more of the present day thread too rather than another flashback. Not that their history isn't interesting, it's just we've had those tales since I started buying 2000 AD last year.  I'm curious about Steelhorn though. In the GN I borrowed a while back (the Meknificent Seven I believe it was) he was turned into liquid goo, and in the present he's a big bot again. Curious how that turns up. And has a hammer always been iconic for him? I always figured that was mainly the leader's domain.

Stalag 666:  Still early days. [spoiler]New guy is a bit of a swine isn't he?[/spoiler] Rather cliche ridden, but I quite like it just the same.

Lobster Random:  My first stint with this character outside of the Vort. So far I like it. Robot stuff is just wrong... but very amusing [spoiler]"How dare you!"[/spoiler] Interesting how different Merridien looks with different artist. (Thats not a criticism of either, I'm just fascinated by how different artists depict certain characters. Dredd included.) Interesting they included a clip of D'Raeli art in this strip too... yet in such a way it didn't clash with the main art at all, despite the different style.

Oh, interesting bare buttocked warrior woman on the back of cover. I've seen her a lot in Abbadon advertisements lately (and twice in this issue.) I'm sure that's how every warrior woman would wish to be clad. (Not really.)

Quote from: "Chris Mardle"I'm curious about Steelhorn though. In the GN I borrowed a while back (the Meknificent Seven I believe it was) he was turned into liquid goo, and in the present he's a big bot again. Curious how that turns up. And has a hammer always been iconic for him? I always figured that was mainly the leader's domain.

[spoiler]If you remember, his flask was spilled inside Big George, making him George's 'living blood', if you like. The Warriors left him behind at the end of the mission when they went their seperate ways. Eventually returning to Mars to quell the trouble being caused by Medusa, the planetary consciousness, they were suprised to run into Steelhorn again, back to his original samurai-style self. Medusa, dormant for centuries, had been awoken by the humans' attempts to terraform her, and was rebelling in style. George was destroyed for his part in the terraforming, and Medusa rebuilt Steelhorn from the remains, recoding his memory from the data in the molten liquid, to act as a sort of avatar for her, a champion of Mars' interests. Therefore he's not quite the original Steelhorn from the first mission, but a pretty damn close fascimile. He reluctantly joined forces with the warriors when he released that only they could help give Medusa the peace she wanted.

During the civil war he was melted down a second time by enemies of the warriros, and trickled away down a storm drain (no, really). Deadlock entered into a pact with Medusa to bring him back once again, only this time made from a crystalline Martian alloy heated and fused by intense heat and pressure deep below the planet's surface, making him nearly invincible.[/spoiler]

This is all from memory, so it's not exact, but more or less what happened.

Thanks for that Jimbo. [spoiler]So he's even more invincible now than he was already? I remember him described as such in the first stories... despite the pesky melting down like...[/spoiler]

Oh, something else in Stalag 666 which made me smile [spoiler]a Christian Snake![/spoiler]

Made me smile that did. I'm glad the writer is taking a 3 dimensional view of the aliens though, rather than just going down the 'weird and ugly'=evil route.

+++ Congrats to Dark Jimbo on 2000 posts! +++

Quote from: "King Trout"I think we've been spoiled by Saturday progs.

We are spoiled by saturday progs - I complained at first that I missed the way they brighten up the first day back at work, but now I'm mighty annoyed if it isn't there of a weekend! Still, it's here now so panic over...

ABC warriors- I like the way these old tales have been 're-imagined' (God I hate that word) around [spoiler]the character of Zippo (who will no doubt turn out to be Howard 'Mr 10%' Quartz in a new body).[/spoiler]
Clint Langley's art makes my eyeballs want to lick the page. Stunning. Some pictures just NEED a splash page!

A good Dredd too - some may say a bit unoriginal, but I like to see it as an Old-School, meat'n'potatoes Dredd. [spoiler]Cool use of the bionic eyes![/spoiler]

Excellent Lob cover and the story's pretty good too. in the absence of the index, can some kind soul direct me to the progs in which [spoiler]klik[/spoiler] featured? I need to read up on my backstory.

Red Seas and Stalag 666 - undecided

Not a classic Droid Life either, but overall a very good prog

Quote from: "dandontdare"+++ Congrats to Dark Jimbo on 2000 posts! +++

Thank you, Sir. I shall be having a slice of cake to celebrate. All are welcome to join me for the festivities. There'll be balloons!

Here's to the next 2000, which at current rate of progress I should reach round about late summer 2011.

Quote from: "Chris Mardle"Dredd:  Good continuation as ever. That part where Dredd zooms in, is it the 'eye upgrade' he received last week? Or do Judges visors have that capability? (I'm thinking it's the former, as I think I remember a judge using binoculars (or futuristic equivalent) in the past

I'd say it's a helmet facilty as Wagner doesn't pay heed to the continuity of Dredd scripts written by others, and doesn't incoporate them into his own; both stories may have been written simultaneously so he may not have read the story himself til it came out. Other writers know not to fuck with major continuiy on Dredd while Wagner's the boss, so there are never major developments that effect Dredd continuity in non-Wagner stories, they're always standalones. Rennie is the only writer that has come close to any real effect and it's minimal.

Mine turned up, too!

I loved the Dredd, Lob and pirate stories - it's especially pleasing to see Steve Y back in the prog - and was blown away by the art on ABCs.
The prison thing is still stuffed with cliches. I'm not keen so far, on story or art. Sorry.

- Trout

Me tuppenceworth:

Cover - Belter, I always love Nick Percival's stuff. Happy days!

Dredd - Great stuff! It really reminded me of the desperate battle near the end of The Pit except poor Joe is all by himself! I loved the post carnage interviews too, Wagner at his best.

Red Seas - I really enjoyed this, it made me laugh out loud several times. Hmmm, as far as I know though, George didn't have wooden teeth, he had hippo, horse and donkey gnashers...

ABC's - Stunning Langley art. Maaan, the work that must go into those splashes is amazing! I dunno if it's just me but has his style changed ever so slightly? It seems a bit more 'painty.' The script was strange to say the least but fun never-the-less. I love Blackblood, he's such a nasty bastard!

Stalag 666 - Well I for one am really enjoying this but I am a sucker for all those old war films. I loved Jon Davis-Hunt's art on Tempest over in the Meg and I really like it here. I'm very much looking forward to seeing who lives, who dies, who betrays who and so on. Heh, a Christian snake, class!

Lobster Random - Spurrier on cracking and hillarious form here and I have to say, The Vort has done wonders for me in terms of this strip. When Tharg said Lobster is coming back in Prog 1601 I was somewhat apathetic about it (in the nicest possible way, I do enjoy the character Si!) however, The Vort has elevated this to an absolutely essential strip, so congrats to all! Chrichlow's work was also excellent, phworrrr, that picture of Klik at the end made me want to go and dress up my hoover!

In all, a prog where I really enjoyed 5 out of 5 stories and loved the cover. Can't ask for much more really!

Quote from: "Freddychopper"Red Seas - Solid as always - not sure people were saying "will do" in those days

The pedant in me will have no peace until he points out that the 'horned helmet' line was pretty silly as well. It's a misconception that annoys me anyway, but the more so here because this is supposed to be the 1700s, well before that particular viking stereotype had come about (off the back of the Romanticism movements, themselves not until a hundred or so years later.) Far from being the voicing of the common man's viewpoint at that point in the conversation, Jack's comment would have baffled all of them.

And yes, I know I'm just perpetuating the stereotype of comic readers as obsessive error-spotters, but hey. I am, sad to say, an obsessive error-spotter.

Deepest apoligies to Ian Edginton.  

Quote from: "garageman"I'd say it's a helmet facilty as Wagner doesn't pay heed to the continuity of Dredd scripts written by others, and doesn't incoporate them into his own; both stories may have been written simultaneously so he may not have read the story himself til it came out.

Whether or not Mr Wagner's read about the recent upgrade, haven't Dredd's bionics always been able to do this? I recall when he first got them he listed all the things they could do(including night vision) before concluding " don't know why I didn't have them done years ago".

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Quote from: "garageman"I'd say it's a helmet facilty as Wagner doesn't pay heed to the continuity of Dredd scripts written by others, and doesn't incoporate them into his own; both stories may have been written simultaneously so he may not have read the story himself til it came out.

Whether or not Mr Wagner's read about the recent upgrade, haven't Dredd's bionics always been able to do this? I recall when he first got them he listed all the things they could do(including night vision) before concluding " don't know why I didn't have them done years ago".

I haven't read the story where he first got the eye upgrade [spoiler](although I have a vague idea it was around the time a trio of undead women with necromancy powers from Death's dimension plagued the city. That or I'm getting two completely different storylines mixed up... this is all second hand, please  understand...[/spoiler]

I had an idea the implants just simulated ordinary eyeballs, so that's interesting.

Quote from: "Chris Mardle"I had an idea the implants just simulated ordinary eyeballs, so that's interesting.

Dredd lost his eyes during City of the Damned, which took place in a future timeline that was erased by Dredd when he returned to the present by killing the Mutant before he could do any of the stuff that took place in City of the Damned.

At the end of the story, Anderson points out the paradoxical nature of Dredd still needing artificial eyes and (if my usually atrocious memory isn't playing its normal tricks) this is when Dredd gives her a speech about the capabilities of the new eyes and delivers the line about regretting not having had it done earlier ...

Cheers

Jim

I enjoyed that prog all the way through.  Nice.

Quote from: "Chris Mardle"I had an idea the implants just simulated ordinary eyeballs, so that's interesting.

They were upgraded after the game of Blindman's Bluff he played with that Rookie Judge recently too, I think.

So I was way off...

Wonder why  I confused the instance with the Sisters of death?

Oh well. Thanks for the fill-in.

Quote from: "Chris Mardle"So I was way off...

Wonder why  I confused the instance with the Sisters of death?

Oh well. Thanks for the fill-in.

Necropolis maybe. The state of the City was (roughly) the same in both stories.

You were probably thinking of the Dead Man story when it was Yassa, rather than Dredd who had his eyes destroyed by a rather nasty Sister of Death.

Dredd's visor has a zoom capability and it can also display layouts for buildings and other images, though he never really uses that feature.

And when was the last time he fired a ricochet? If my gun fired six types of bullet I'd never the plain old ordinary ones.

Still, we got a hefty dose of hi-ex this week, so I shouldn't complain...

Quote from: "McNulty"You were probably thinking of the Dead Man story when it was Yassa, rather than Dredd who had his eyes destroyed by a rather nasty Sister of Death.

That's probably it.
I haven't read either of those eye-popping (so to speak) stories, I just remember having read about it on this site somewhere.

Dredd is of course the acknowledged master of the Ricochet technique, so he's probably consciously trying to broaden his range, like the great Inigo Montoya only fighting with his left hand.

As to Dredd's eyes in The Dead Man, that is where we get our only good look at the bionics in situ, where they have square pupils. I haven't got City of the Damned to hand, but IIRC the 'new peepers' offered 20/20 night vision and reduced blinking - I don't think they had 10X magnification, and surely weren't voice controlled - so I'd say it's definitely a helmet visor function.

Cover: Nice but a bit dark. Good Stuff.

Dredd: The plot thickens. I like the vox pop interludes but I hope they don't grate in future eps. Could this be the rogue citi-def story to end all rogue citi-def stories? Kev Walker. Great Stuff.

Red Seas: Enjoyable romp, good to see Edgy back on form after the snooze-fest that was Stickleback. Nice teeth. Very Good Stuff.

ABC: What's up with the music stuff? Should I be worried that I've heard of all of these bands? Clint Langley. Good Stuff.

Stalag: I hope the Xianity stuff doesn't turn into some heavy handed rant. OK Stuff.

Lobster Random: Lob is back and all is right with the world. Great Stuff.

Damnit I cant get into Red Seas as much as I want to. Seems to be universally loved so I should be digging it but can't quite 'get it'. Probably just cos I havent read past installments. I was looking at the Red Seas TPB thats out and thinking about treating myself. That volume contains episodes up to prog 1413 or 1414 or so - is that all of the stories before the Werewolf one (first one I read) or was there more in between there and prog 1500?

Everything else is great. I've never read a Lobster Random story before but loved the Vort so this is a cool continuation. That wasn't Meridien Bless getting killed in that panel was it??? For a second there I was like, "oh you bugger!" thinking she was being killed off since she had served her purpose - I hope not though. Her brief history with "Crispy" is worth hanging onto and building on. I can't help thinking of Terry O'Quinn from Lost when I look at Lob though. If ever there was a movie version....perfect casting right there.

Dredd is cool, Warriors - good to have it back, if only so we can get to the end of this flashback stuff. Never a big fan of flashback stories, and the stuff in the present time is so much more interesting. I hate being interrupted from it. I want to see them rescue Zippo, I want to see whats going on with Mek Quake and Volkhan, theres no time for more repeated 'footage' of the war. I just hope this volume is the last of the Flashbacks and by the end of it we will have a whole new set up for the next series. Wish Nemesis would come back too..

I like Stalag 666. Yeah I hear what some people are saying about it seeming a bit out of place in 2000ad but we should give it a chance I think. Its different thats for sure, but nothing wrong with that. Bit confused by the new character though. One minute they're saying they're expecting someone called Raider, then in the next panel suddenly the main guy is saying "Hi are you Chapman?" How did he know the guys name all of a sudden? Is he this Raider guy or not? Or is that supposed to be the mystery? Either way hes a bit of a git! But thats cool in its way I guess.

Quote from: "Van Dom"Damnit I cant get into Red Seas as much as I want to. Seems to be universally loved so I should be digging it but can't quite 'get it'. Probably just cos I havent read past installments. I was looking at the Red Seas TPB thats out and thinking about treating myself. That volume contains episodes up to prog 1413 or 1414 or so - is that all of the stories before the Werewolf one (first one I read) or was there more in between there and prog 1500?

There was a WW2 one before this. I get the impression it's out of continuity though so shouldn't affect your reading.

QuoteThat wasn't Meridien Bless getting killed in that panel was it???

If she did it happened off-panel. We see bullets impact the doorway near her and she screams and dashes away (after calling Lob a 'bastoid'.) I'm thinking we'll see more of Ms Bless.

ABC Warriors was my top strip this week, and it wasn't even that good! What is there to it apart from clunky dialogue (time for a story! - cue flashback), Pat Mills mangling the language, and writing like an old man trying show that he's still 'down with the kids'. The oldest swinger in town, or what? I just like it because it's got a great bunch of characters that lend themselves to fantastic visuals. It's proper science fantasy (just, you know, without the science), but this week it was a visual feast without much to read. But it was still the best thing in the comic.

The other four strips were nice and dense - lots of words per page, which was some compensation for not really being made to care what was going on in any of them.

The Red Seas' wikipedia version of history is getting a bit annoying, especially woodworm in the false teeth. Just puerile.

Stalag 666 was my second favourite strip this week, and Lobster Random my third.

Overall, 6/10.

Quote from: "House of Usher"ABC Warriors was my top strip this week, and it wasn't even that good! What is there to it apart from clunky dialogue (time for a story! - cue flashback), Pat Mills mangling the language, and writing like an old man trying show that he's still 'down with the kids'. The oldest swinger in town, or what? I just like it because it's got a great bunch of characters that lend themselves to fantastic visuals. It's proper science fantasy (just, you know, without the science)

That's arguably always been true of the warriors I suppose. I love 'em to bits, but I'd be the first to admit that few of their stories, plotwise, are all that good, with the notable exceptions of Black Hole and possibly Shadow Warriors. I just like spending time with the characters and seeing them do their thing, to the extent that I can forgive most of the story faults.

Quote from: "House of Usher"The Red Seas' wikipedia version of history is getting a bit annoying, especially woodworm in the false teeth. Just puerile.

Well, in fairness, Wiki doesn't agree with Red Seas... (although personally I'd agree that the moment with the worms was a bit silly.)

Quote from: "Wikipedia"Washington suffered from problems with his teeth throughout his life. He lost his first tooth when he was twenty-two and had only one left by the time he became President.According to John Adams, he lost them because he used them to crack Brazil nuts, although modern historians suggest it was probably the mercury oxide he was given to treat illnesses such as smallpox and malaria.He had several sets of false teeth made, four of them by a dentist named John Greenwood. Contrary to popular belief, none of the sets were made from wood. The set made when he became President was carved from hippopotamus and elephant ivory, held together with gold springs. The hippo ivory was used for the plate, into which real human teeth and also bits of horses and donkeys teeth were inserted.

I think it's also worth pointing out that the historical record makes no mention of undead viking armies either... so, y'know...

Quote from: "His Lordship rac"I think it's also worth pointing out that the historical record makes no mention of undead viking armies either... so, y'know...

Well it wouldn't do, would it? The Brotherhood of the Book would have surpressed all mention of it!

Dammit! You're right!!

Oh blimey, what have I done?  

I didn't mean to suggest that every historical fact, event and personage depicted in The Red Seas could be referenced against wikipedia! I was merely alluding to wikipedia's reputation for unscholarliness, inaccuracy and frequent sloppiness. Often when fantasy stories have an historical setting one gets the feeling that 'any history will do, so long as it looks old', and I don't think The Red Seas (or Defoe) are any great exception to that.

As for wikipedia, I didn't mean to impugn its content unreservedly. I frequently consult its pages on historical matters, whether I'm looking for a broad brush account or minor details. For instance it was to wikipedia (and other online sources for triangulation, naturally) I turned to have my suspicions confirmed when it occurred to me that Isaac Newton in Defoe had received his knighthood almost four decades earlier than the Sir Isaac in our real world.

What I mean to say is I'd take the wikipedia version of history over the 2000ad version any day, I just meant that both should be taken with a big pinch of salt.

I'd just subscribe innaccuracies with real history down to the old 'it's another world' thing. Mind you, that's not to say it doesn't bug me from time to time (it's good to get history accurate if possible. Apart from the added fiction of course!)

One thing that bugged me in Gladiator was the bit at the start where Maximus tells his archers to "FIRE!"

You don't fire arrows. 'Fire' is a term that came with the advent of gunpowder. You can shoot arrows, or loose them. But don't fire.

Mind you, I'm aware it's not exactly common knowledge, so my irritation is rather silly. I didn't know the term was inaccurate until I read one of Bernard Cornwell's books (Harelquin I believe) and it's probably in hindsight that it bugged me.

still waiting for this issue annoyingly

QuoteMaximus tells his archers to "FIRE!"

Since Maximus would actually have been speaking in Latin, you could put that one down to an effect of translating the dialogue into 20th century English.

Quote from: "The monarch"still waiting for this issue annoyingly

As we're already a prog ahead I'd suggest calling Denise at subscriptions - only twice in my years as a subscriber has a prog failed to arrive, but a quick phone call has had a replacement winging it's way to me straight away.

Quote from: "Richard"

QuoteMaximus tells his archers to "FIRE!"

Since Maximus would actually have been speaking in Latin, you could put that one down to an effect of translating the dialogue into 20th century English.

It should really be "LAUNCH" or "SHOOT" etc, but yeah, you're right. With the modern use of the word most people wouldn't have a problem with it.

Just me (and it's not a bigee really.)

Quote from: "Godpleton"ABC: What's up with the music stuff? Should I be worried that I've heard of all of these bands? Clint Langley. Good Stuff.

The lads from Coldwar are rightly chuffed about their mention-my girlfriend rang rang them as they were rehearsing to let them know and they wouldn't believe it til she read it out and described what was going on

I'm not a subscriber but I usually get mines at my local comic store but annoyingly the box with several comics in it including this issue of 2000ad was never delivered and thuis no 2000ad this week but they promised to get me a copy and it will be in my file the next time i'm in

Quote from: "The monarch"they promised to get me a copy and it will be in my file the next time i'm in

You have your own file in the local comic store? How cool is that?  

I try to avoid my local comic megatsore as all my money seems to get mysteriously sucked out of my pocket -  subscribing keeps me honest and solvent!

yup I do indeed one of the benefits of actually having comics put back for me guarranteed to get him them before anything sells out

QuoteHow cool is that?

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Well I usually get my prog on a thursday from the local Borders but they didn't have it last week and neither didn't anywhere else; and I looked in a lot of places. I had hoped that Borders may have had it today as a late delivery but still nothing and I suppose tomorrow it'll just be prog 1602 on the shelves, has anyone else missed out on prog 1601 altogether?

I am enjoying Stalag 666 so far.

 Thats the wonderful thing about 2000ad.You never know whats going to appear next.

 I am saving the best [ABC Warriors] and the rest for my beddybyes later.