So, I've grown up with Red Dwarf, I've always been a fan of it, and except for (arguably) one very dodgy series red dwarf has been a great british sci fi comedy drama thingy for years. My dad loved red dwarf and he sadly died of cancer last year, but on his death bed we watched Red Dwarf together.
So I was glad, after the Back to Earth mini series special DAVE thingy that they have bothered to make another series!
Anyone have any opinions on this?
From what I've heard it's supposed to be Doug Naylor's 'return to form' whereas he achieved his aesthetic and conceptual return to form in Back to Earth, he didn't chalk up the laughs...the new series (X) promises laughs - so say a studio audience who were invited to attend the shooting.
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It's not just you judgeblake. I've been looking forward to this for a while. I enjoyed BtE (mostly) but it could have been better and I'm glad to read such positive responses from those who were in the audience for the screenings. (Okay, they were mostly fans, but I know for a fact many of them disliked series 7 and 8 so they weren't the type to just like it because it's more Dwarf.) A very 4-6 vibe apparently.
According to one of Doug Naylor's latest tweets there's a good chance we'll see the trailer on Friday.
I loved RD back in the day and had fun watching the lot again with my son recently. I wasn't thrilled by the last series or the DAVE comeback one-off, so, while I'll be checking out the new series, I'm not holding my breath. Still, might as well be optimistic
cheers
Floyd
It was my favourite show for years. I didn't particularly like Back to Earth, I felt it was too meta and pretty much broke the 4th wall. I'm quietly optimistic about the new series. Series 8 wasn't bad and Doug Naylor always seems happy to stir things up to prevent it getting stale which is nice. If it's crap, we'll always have Series 2 (and parrots)
From the series and books, I always felt Naylor spun a good yarn, but more of the laughs came from Grant. I'm hoping the new series will bring back the funny, but Back to Earth was pretty poor on that scale.
Yep that was a lot more evident in the books as the both wrote separately. Rob Grant was the funny man, Doug Naylor was the sci fi concept guy.
Excited but trepidatious. I'm not anticipating a return to the form of the middle years, but if it manages to reach the standards of the better bits of series 7 and 8 I'll be pleased enough. (I know s7 is generally regarded as a real low point and rightly so, but it still had its moments; the opening sequence of Stoke Me a Clipper is glorious.) Considering everything past the series 6 finale has been so up and down I've got no objection to them coming back and giving it another punt; it's not like the show bowed out on a high note it'd be a shame to ruin. Hopefully Back to Earth helped everybody get back in the groove a bit ready for this series.
Yep, really looking forward to it too, and glad it's back :)
"If you like Rasta Billy..."
Looking forward to it but I just hope that it isn't too self referencing. The first few series were a proper sitcom that anyone could watch - the later series were all in jokes about Dwayne bloody Dibbly and stuff. Even 'Back to Earth' had a major plot point that assumed familiarity of the despair squid.
FUCK RED DWARF
It must be a lot harder for them to write the show now on account of everything they have gone through -originally it was basically the classic class-based British sitcom formula (one happy slob and one who wishes to rise above their station, constantly failing), that just happened to be set in space. Now they are pretty much on the same side so all the content really has to come from the sci-fi twists. Also, as with some other shows, the better the production values become, the colder it gets in space - it was really designed as a bit of knockabout sketch comedy. Back to Earth seemed to work a lot better than the later BBC shows though, and I was impressed how Craig Charles seem to ratchet up his acting, though it's a pretty different kind of show now.
If you watch the first season his acting really is appalling. But then none of them were actors. There was a poet, an impressionist, a dancer and a stand up comedian. I was very impressed by how far he has come with Back to Earth. A huge difference even from series 8
Fingers crossed it will be good but trying not to get my hopes up. Loved series I to V, others were a bit iffy and Back To Earth was just terrible in my opinion.
If they can recapture the humour it will be good.
I wish it all the best but it's hard to re capture the magic they had.Back to reality, waxworld,gunmen of tje apocalypse,legion are pretty hard to top.
If it rekindles the same mirth as this clip I for one will be very happy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KE0njnZXyY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KE0njnZXyY)
From someone who has been to at least some of the screenings, he reckons episode 6 is up there with the best of previous episodes! The other episode reviews have been quite positive too. Granted, fans, but fans who don't just love everything Red Dwarf.
Those worried that it will follow the BtE route - I don't get the impression they doing that at all. BtE was an anniversary episode and that was the reason for much of the self referencing.
Incidentally the little I've seen of the sets (http://www.reddwarf.co.uk/news/2012/04/27/picture-this/) and the new ship model is great! (Cat's hairdo aside.) They're back to using model shots (http://www.reddwarf.co.uk/news/2012/02/03/super-models/) rather than relying entirely on CGI.
More news here (http://www.reddwarf.co.uk/news/), but it's a bit to scroll through.
The version of the ship they're going with is essentially the model they made for the movie (which never took off). That's actually the pencil version, a scanned CGI version used for series 8 and the remastered episodes 1-3. They've basically chopped out the middle to shorten it, so it's kind of a hybrid of series 1-6 and the pencil. (I.e. short but more slender than the original.) Basically a physical version of the one they showed in BtE.
This basically. Except they'll be showing an actual model!
(http://www.reddwarf.co.uk/news/2012/02/03/super-models/super-models-2.jpg)
I've always enjoyed Red Dwarf and am quite excited to see how the new series turns out. I've never expected high art from Dwarf, just a few giggles and some lame jokes, so I'll probably enjoy this one too.
I remember liking it until they made the computer a woman. I could only've been about twelve then.
My favourite series is actually the 3rd - if they can create the edginess of that series and get in some of the laughs from the successful mid-series adding some of the aesthetics of BtE I'll be very happy.
Quote from: JamesC on 18 July, 2012, 12:37:21 PM
Looking forward to it but I just hope that it isn't too self referencing. The first few series were a proper sitcom that anyone could watch - the later series were all in jokes about Dwayne bloody Dibbly and stuff. Even 'Back to Earth' had a major plot point that assumed familiarity of the despair squid.
I agree I think they have been self referencing to the ends of the earth and there are many many more avenues they can go down instead of recycling the same in jokes etc
Quote from: Mardroid on 18 July, 2012, 01:11:03 AM
According to one of Doug Naylor's latest tweets there's a good chance we'll see the trailer on Friday.
I'm very much looking forward to more than just the production still/s that have been released - though I feel I'm getting overly hyped for something that doesn't air for a while yet.
Not heard about this, is it another on TV and then buy the (expensive) DVD?
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 18 July, 2012, 11:21:50 AM
From the series and books, I always felt Naylor spun a good yarn, but more of the laughs came from Grant. I'm hoping the new series will bring back the funny, but Back to Earth was pretty poor on that scale.
There was a cynicism to Grant's humour that was lacking in later ones too, which is ridiculously evident in his non-RD books.
I love anything up to 6 really, though it was starting to get a bit self-referential then. Didn't like Kochanski when she wasn't Claire Grogan, Kryten starting getting too silly and Cat spoke too much sense.
Will certainly watch the new ones, just hoping they're better than Back to Earth with the dodgy Coronation St. crossover.
Quote from: Large48 on 18 July, 2012, 11:12:48 PM
Not heard about this, is it another on TV and then buy the (expensive) DVD?
They're showing it on Dave. No doubt there'll be a DVD release after. The releases in the past have been good value with loads of extras. I doubt this will be any different.
Quote from: Mardroid on 18 July, 2012, 11:44:12 PM
Quote from: Large48 on 18 July, 2012, 11:12:48 PM
Not heard about this, is it another on TV and then buy the (expensive) DVD?
They're showing it on Dave. No doubt there'll be a DVD release after. The releases in the past have been good value with loads of extras. I doubt this will be any different.
I agree - the DVD sets and packages have been topnotch
I look forward to it, the only thing I thought that was missing from the Back to Earth thing was the laughter from the audience, but now they have that back it should be back to normal.
I really dislike laughter tracks, it was therefore a massive shock to me when I twigged that was what was missing from B2E
I loved the series, evne the later runs, but I hated back to edarth with a passion, apart from a light sprinkling of decent gags. Not only did I feel that the whole idea was ill-conceived, they all just looked so OLD! It was like watching 60 year olds in a reformed rock band trying to rock like teenagers again but just going through the motions.
Quote from: James Stacey on 20 July, 2012, 07:25:51 AM
I really dislike laughter tracks, it was therefore a massive shock to me when I twigged that was what was missing from B2E
well the laughter track and the use of a live audience etc have been the main arguing point for red dwarf fans. Some prefer the lack of laughter track, some asked why they couldnt get a studio audience in again....I think that the series had really had a bad time of it in series 8 I believe and the concept was terrible and the jokes were terrible...
BTE was an underrated return to form after series 8....but it was missing the jokes and the studio audience even if the visuals were fantastic...and then they could have put in a laughter track but the jokes didnt merit it really.
So they decided to get a audience back in, and thankfully from the sounds of things the laughs are back so they wouldnt need to insert a laughter track anyway haha
Quote from: Dandontdare on 20 July, 2012, 03:00:26 PM
I loved the series, evne the later runs, but I hated back to edarth with a passion, apart from a light sprinkling of decent gags. Not only did I feel that the whole idea was ill-conceived, they all just looked so OLD! It was like watching 60 year olds in a reformed rock band trying to rock like teenagers again but just going through the motions.
Their age doesn't bother me. Originally it was intended that Lister be a 40 something right at the start. The series has just caught up with the original premise. As a comedy I think their ages can add to the comedy.
I agree that BtE could have used more laughs though. That being said, I largely liked it, although I found the Bladerunner stuff a bit too heavy handed. (It was strange, as part of me got a geeky thrill out of recognising the scenes they were riffing, but then it did feel a little clunky later.) The photo zoom-in gag worked very well though.
Teaser trailer is up. (http://uktv.co.uk/dave/video/aid/653214/videolistid/1/sr/1)
haha I was just about to link that - here's link to the same on youtube anywho
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=8-qQ_twvleg&gl=GB (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=8-qQ_twvleg&gl=GB)
I'll be honest - I'm dissapointed by this teaser trailer - the laughs are poor, and the cg bits look dodgy, and there's even a recycled 'skit' or 'gag' whereby Kryton asks why Lister is depressed and 2nd guesses Lister's response by listing the obvious situation Lister is in - i.e. the last human alive adrift in space etc - to 'great hilarity'. Aesthetically it looks alright. God I hope this doesn't turn out to be a rubbish series with forced laughs, or an audience that react to poor jokes like they've been inhaling laughing gas!!! I'm hoping its just a poorly advised teaser trailer.
Yeah, basically my reaction too - it's not jokes that I'd find too awful as a bit of filler in an episode, but if this is supposed to be the very funniest material they've got available... yikes. :-\ Hopefully it's just that the better gags are too long and complicated to fit into a teaser this short, or they didn't want to spoil the best bits of the episode - although that would be a first for a promotional trailer - but... this is not filling me with confidence, I have to say.
I remain optimistic (I rather liked 'Back to Earth') - I gather they are planning on releasing a snippet or something RD-related every Friday, so it's not like this is all we'll see prior to the show. It seems to me that the first part of the clip with Lister and Kryten was chosen as a sort of recap of the status quo of the programme for new viewers, rather than specifically for comedy impact. I don't think they'll blow their funniest gags on a trailer, and besides, the comedy in Red Dwarf tends to work very much within the context of the show rather than isolated in preview form.
Personally, I was most interested in Lister's father's day card - is it from his twins in the parallel universe? Or maybe from himself, since he is his own dad?
Definately staying optimistic -
I didn't know they were releasing stuff every friday either. When does the series actually air? as I thought it was more like late november when it would air on DAVE?
I was also a fan of BTE, but I am NOT a fan of forced laughs lol I'd rather have them go the way of BTE and have more effort put into aesthetics and cgi with a convoluted and intrigueing sci fi tale, rather than a few tacky sets, forced laughs off the back of unfunny jokes etc........trying to remain optimistic lol
Wow. I managed to forget about the trailer...
Yeah. Not all that funny but the sets looked great. And interesting to see Blue Midget again!
Sorry for double post - timed out.
Yeah, I think in context the jokes will be funnier. They basically had to cram stuff into a 49 second (or thereabouts) clip.
Quote from: judgeblake on 20 July, 2012, 08:53:49 PM
the cg bits look dodgy
Those are model ships. No doubt enhanced by CGI (Blue Midget's booster effect for example.)
That trailer has done what is meant to do - I want to see more!
Quote from: judgeblake on 21 July, 2012, 12:18:07 AM
When does the series actually air? as I thought it was more like late november when it would air on DAVE?
According to the Red Dwarf website:
QuoteThis week, efforts have been concentrated on finishing the extensive behind-the-scenes documentary and other special features for the hugely packed DVD and Blu-ray releases - currently scheduled to follow the broadcast of the series almost immediately and hit homes in November.
Exact broadcast dates for the episodes have yet to be confirmed, but things are still on course for an Autumn transmission.
So working from the above info, I make it late September / early October the series starts.
That little teaser really filled me with hope. The audience reaction sounded very positive, and the anti-Rimmer jokes are back! Good to see Chris Barrie has lost some weight for the role.
Yeah, I'm encouraged by the trailer. The jokes may seem "recycled" but that also means they're a bit of a reminder for folk that haven't seen it in years or an intro to folk that haven't at all. I laughed anyway. Not out loud, more of a happy chuckle :)
Trailer looked good, gave a nice idea of what to expect but didn't give away too much, which would spoil the jokes. After Prometheus I am now very wary of marketing 'experts'.
There's a review/screenshot breakdown (http://www.ganymede.tv/atspeed/2012/07/red-dwarf-x-trailer) on the Ganymede and Titan fansite which covers the shot. The guy doing it has seen some of the recordings too and gives a non-spoilerific context to it.
Quote from: Mardroid on 21 July, 2012, 03:12:49 PM
There's a review/screenshot breakdown (http://www.ganymede.tv/atspeed/2012/07/red-dwarf-x-trailer) on the Ganymede and Titan fansite which covers the shot. The guy doing it has seen some of the recordings too and gives a non-spoilerific context to it.
Well, there's encouraging:
QuoteI suppose I better try to articulate my thoughts on the trailer as a whole. I don't think, in all honestly, that it represents the series all that well. It seems very much geared towards showing the 'whacky space funtime' and so gives a bit of skewed view of what the series is like. If I was to see this as the first example of the new series, I'd be shitting my pants right now, convinced we're about to experience Series VIII all over again. That is categorically not the case (although, ironically, Series VIII has a much better trailer that actually conveyed a bit of drama).
Also agree with the comments made there about Danny John-Jules having nailed his performance, because I thought the Cat seemed pretty off in Back to Earth, but even from what little there is in the teaser he seems to be a whole lot better here.
Coming into the thread late.I'm not sure myself i loved the original series and skipped the most recent venture i guess only time will tell but i'd prefer to remain with happy memories..
Yeah, happy memories indeed! Mr Flibble, the evil sado-masochistic transvestite Rimmer, Krytens vacuum attachment etc etc etc. I'm in the mood for pizza, wine and a Red Dwarf marathon tonight!
Quote from: Daveycandlish on 21 July, 2012, 08:30:40 AM
That trailer has done what is meant to do - I want to see more!
very true :)
Quote from: Greg M. on 21 July, 2012, 09:11:55 AM
Quote from: judgeblake on 21 July, 2012, 12:18:07 AM
When does the series actually air? as I thought it was more like late november when it would air on DAVE?
According to the Red Dwarf website:
QuoteThis week, efforts have been concentrated on finishing the extensive behind-the-scenes documentary and other special features for the hugely packed DVD and Blu-ray releases - currently scheduled to follow the broadcast of the series almost immediately and hit homes in November.
Exact broadcast dates for the episodes have yet to be confirmed, but things are still on course for an Autumn transmission.
So working from the above info, I make it late September / early October the series starts.
very happy if that's right....earlier than I thought it would be (I was expecting late november to december).
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 21 July, 2012, 01:00:40 PM
That little teaser really filled me with hope. The audience reaction sounded very positive, and the anti-Rimmer jokes are back! Good to see Chris Barrie has lost some weight for the role.
yeah, even if you aren't encouraged by the laughs/gags as I am, it's still important to note the cast are still ruddy bloody brilliant.
Quote from: klute on 21 July, 2012, 04:57:28 PM
Coming into the thread late.I'm not sure myself i loved the original series and skipped the most recent venture i guess only time will tell but i'd prefer to remain with happy memories..
I personally think any Red dwarf is good Red Dwarf...in that way I also equate it with Vic and Bob lol.....but at the same time I am always sorely dissapointed when something I have loved such as Red Dwarf (or Vic and Bob lol) take big dips in quality, be-it in quality of gags, production etc....
so basically.....watch all series of red dwarf.....skip series VIII...watch Back to Earth (or 'series IX') as it's not full of laughs but its visually very impressive and the plot arc/lines are impressive and a return to form (even if they do travel to coronation street lol)...then onwards to series X lol
next time I get some bachelor time, I might just watch the lot again.
hey, does Holly or Holly appear in the new show? Or do they get someone new, like Catherine Tate (who would be quite a good Holly if she weren't too famous for the role) to do it?
There's been no mention of Holly and he/she hasn't appeared in any set pictures or the trailer material. I'm thinking 'no', although we might be surprised. I know it's highly unlikely Norman Lovett will be back, but I'd love to see Hattie Hayridge back in the role.
Quote from: judgefloyd on 22 July, 2012, 12:58:52 PMhey, does Holly or Holly appear in the new show? Or do they get someone new, like Catherine Tate (who would be quite a good Holly if she weren't too famous for the role) to do it?
According to the highly reliable authority of a random forum poster somewhere claiming the producer said so on Twitter, [spoiler]Holly's not in it[/spoiler].
Quote from: a chosen rider on 22 July, 2012, 04:43:14 PM
Quote from: judgefloyd on 22 July, 2012, 12:58:52 PMhey, does Holly or Holly appear in the new show? Or do they get someone new, like Catherine Tate (who would be quite a good Holly if she weren't too famous for the role) to do it?
According to the highly reliable authority of a random forum poster somewhere claiming the producer said so on Twitter, [spoiler]Holly's not in it[/spoiler].
[spoiler]A great shame in my opinion - I loved Hattie. I would have loved both Hollie's to appear in at least one episode to make way for a brand new Holly played by someone like Bill Bailey for instance. Maybe that's for another series? I do know Norman Lovett has burnt alot of bridges around the Red Dwarf crew.[/spoiler]
Personally, I'd still like to see Queeg (Charles Augins) back, even just for a one-off. That said, [spoiler]I can understand the absence of a Holly - once Kryten came in, the character was rendered superfluous. Still, if there was going to be one, Hattie would be the realistic choice and would definitely get my vote - when you see her interviewed, she's super-enthusiatic about the series, in rather sharp contrast to Norman Lovett.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Greg M. on 22 July, 2012, 08:33:31 PM
Personally, I'd still like to see Queeg (Charles Augins) back, even just for a one-off. That said, [spoiler]I can understand the absence of a Holly - once Kryten came in, the character was rendered superfluous. Still, if there was going to be one, Hattie would be the realistic choice and would definitely get my vote - when you see her interviewed, she's super-enthusiatic about the series, in rather sharp contrast to Norman Lovett.[/spoiler]
I would love to see Queeg!! with Charles Augins playing him again too! I agree with what you say regarded Kryten and Holly - but I would still love to see Holly even if it was only for a few lines of dialogue here and there.
Here's the main speculation thread on the main Red Dwarf forum speculating as to the air date for the new series.
http://www.reddwarf.co.uk/forum/messages.cfm?threadid=ADC412EC-1999-AFED-B47C31F0582A76AE (http://www.reddwarf.co.uk/forum/messages.cfm?threadid=ADC412EC-1999-AFED-B47C31F0582A76AE)
Quote from: judgeblake on 22 July, 2012, 08:39:27 PM
I would still love to see Holly even if it was only for a few lines of dialogue here and there.
In principle, I kinda agree, if only to have Hattie back... but then, 'chipping in for a few lines of dialogue' was pretty much Holly's role in Series VIII, and sadly, none of the lines Norman was given were actually any good. A shame, really - but ultimately, [spoiler]better no Holly than a token version that ends up devaluing the character.[/spoiler]
I thought Normans lines were excellent, right from the off! The very first episode, where he repeatedly says 'They're dead Dave. Everyone is dead. They are all dead Dave.' in his droll manner was hysterical!
QuoteLister: Where is everyone Hol?
Holly: They're dead Dave.
Lister: Who is?
Holly: Everybody Dave.
Lister: What Captain Holister?
Holly: Everybody's dead Dave.
Lister: What Todd Hunter?
Holly: Everybody's dead Dave.
Lister: What Selby?
Holly: They're all dead, everybody's dead Dave.
Lister: Peterson isn't, is he?
Holly: Everybody is dead Dave.
Lister: Not Chen?
Holly: Gorden Bennet, yes Chen, everybody, everybody's dead Dave.
Lister: Rimmer?
Holly: He's dead Dave, everybody's dead, everybody is dead Dave.
Lister: Wait, are you trying to tell me everybody's dead?
Holly: *slightly under breath* Shouldn't have let him out in the first place!
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 22 July, 2012, 09:59:05 PM
I thought Normans lines were excellent, right from the off!
Oh, in series 1 and 2, absolutely -"We are talking jape of the decade. We are talking April, May, June, July and August fool!" - which is what made his lacklustre material in series 8 so disappointing.
Yeah, I see your point.
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 22 July, 2012, 09:59:05 PM
I thought Normans lines were excellent, right from the off! The very first episode, where he repeatedly says 'They're dead Dave. Everyone is dead. They are all dead Dave.' in his droll manner was hysterical!
QuoteLister: Where is everyone Hol?
Holly: They're dead Dave.
Lister: Who is?
Holly: Everybody Dave.
Lister: What Captain Holister?
Holly: Everybody's dead Dave.
Lister: What Todd Hunter?
Holly: Everybody's dead Dave.
Lister: What Selby?
Holly: They're all dead, everybody's dead Dave.
Lister: Peterson isn't, is he?
Holly: Everybody is dead Dave.
Lister: Not Chen?
Holly: Gorden Bennet, yes Chen, everybody, everybody's dead Dave.
Lister: Rimmer?
Holly: He's dead Dave, everybody's dead, everybody is dead Dave.
Lister: Wait, are you trying to tell me everybody's dead?
Holly: *slightly under breath* Shouldn't have let him out in the first place!
I thought Norman's lines in series VIII were funny too. One of the only redeeming features of series VIII. But I do think that was a sort of last hurrah for Norman. Holly will always stand out as an extra character because A) he/she was the computer who you went through alot of the times to see what was wrong with the ship, or to access Holly's IQ and opinion and B) Holly chipping in, even if just a few times, with the odd funny line was always welcome.
But I think there is still room for Kryten and Holly. Of course Norman was really on form in the first series, and Hattie did a brilliant job before they phased Holly out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpIb296lh3M&feature=g-all-u (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpIb296lh3M&feature=g-all-u)
new Kryten 'teaser'.
I heard they were posting a new teaser trailer online every friday before the series airs...which was happy about, but then I thought ' a new trailer eachfriday - wouldnt that spoil the series when it does come on'.
But they have opted to put up teasers such as the one above....
tbh I would rather they just posted the odd minute long 'behind the scenes' clips rather than these teasers.
There are plenty more Fridays to go! I think it's best they piece things out like this as we don't want to see to much before the programme starts.
Apart from the 'sort of in character' part in this clip (which I like in itself) we get a great view of part of the new set in that video.
I must've missed the teaser released this last friday - anyone know what it was?
It was just a couple of set / costume photos.
http://uktv.co.uk/dave/blogpost/aid/653339 (http://uktv.co.uk/dave/blogpost/aid/653339)
New bunkroom. (http://gazpachosoup.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/reddwarfx_bunkroom.jpg)
Click the image for a larger version.
I quite like it.
Quote from: Mardroid on 11 August, 2012, 01:53:29 AM
New bunkroom. (http://gazpachosoup.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/reddwarfx_bunkroom.jpg)
Click the image for a larger version.
I quite like it.
very cool!
After all these years, they've finally got a couch, just like Rob & Doug were told sitcoms are supposed to have... ;)
Bump!
There's new stuff on Dave (http://uktv.co.uk/dave/homepage/sid/5002), especially this clip. (http://uktv.co.uk/dave/blogpost/aid/653457)
Very promising, I think.
yeah looks like the mixture as in the early shows - I'll watch out for it.
Hey all....been away from the forum (and blighty) for a couple of weeks - and come back to more Red Dwarf news - and I'm rewatching all the past RD series in order to quench my excitement at the prospect of a new series.
From what I've seen; the humour doesn't look like it will be quite be on par with RD at it's peak...but there will be decent gags, the show will be back to its 30 minute manic best, with audience, and great aesthetic and costume and set design.
Found this too;
[spoiler]
Revealed episode titles for series X =
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/a401453/red-dwarf-series-x-episode-titles-revealed-by-robert-llewellyn.html (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/a401453/red-dwarf-series-x-episode-titles-revealed-by-robert-llewellyn.html)
and another link;
http://llewblog.squarespace.com/red-dwarf/2012/8/22/red-dwarf-x-episode-titles.html (http://llewblog.squarespace.com/red-dwarf/2012/8/22/red-dwarf-x-episode-titles.html)
I have heard that there will prospectively be another series after this one with Naylor telling audiences he 'wants the studio audience back for the next series' - but with the last episode title mirroring series 1/I's 'the Beginning', surely this maybe a rounding off of the series as a whole?
I only hope that Naylor isn't going to try and kickstart Red Dwarf somehow and go back to a beginning type situation with a new cast!!!! (as he has threatened to do before!)
[/spoiler]
Quote from: judgeblake on 26 August, 2012, 08:48:16 PM
I have heard that there will prospectively be another series after this one with Naylor telling audiences he 'wants the studio audience back for the next series' - but with the last episode title mirroring series 1/I's 'the Beginning', surely this maybe a rounding off of the series as a whole?
From what I've read, we should take that with a pinch of salt. Mainly from Naylor's comment but Robert Llewellyn also posted a comment on twitter which could suggest this is the case. (Subject to interpretation.):
Quote"Robert Llewellyn (@bobbyllew)
I don't think you should read TOO much into the episode titles. #justsayin"
From people who were in the audience of the episodes, I've heard it's very much back to a series 3-5 feel, and 6 is up there with the original series in terms of humour. (That's not to say the others aren't funny too, I think they were just making a comparison. Bearing in mind most of the audience weren't there for all the episodes. Most of the feedback I've read from viewers of all episodes has been pretty positive.)
By the way, Doug Naylor has stated that episode 6 incorporates stuff from an earlier draft of the movie!
Source. (http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/5045568.article)
Quote from: Mardroid on 26 August, 2012, 11:44:38 PM
By the way, Doug Naylor has stated that episode 6 incorporates stuff from an earlier draft of the movie!
The movie script has been finished since like 2004, but poor Doug Naylor couldn't get the funding for love nor money, apparently the BFI turned him down because they said the movie would be "too commercial", well
duh...
If the new series does really well, both critically and commercially, I would hope it gives the 'Dwarf people added cache to maybe get the movie finally greenlit; with the advent of highly cost-effective production/post-production technology (as seen in
...Back To Earth), and a highly cost-effective filming location like Cape Town Studios in Jo'Berg, I think you could pull off both a fantastic and a commercially successful 3-D Red Dwarf movie for about £12m nowadays...
The BBC Red Dwarf series are being shown back to back in reverse order on Dave channel.
This is just going to get better and better...
New clip with a pretty good joke in it (and finally some lines for Rimmer):
http://uktv.co.uk/dave/blogpost/aid/653712 (http://uktv.co.uk/dave/blogpost/aid/653712)
Quote from: Adrian Bamforth on 09 September, 2012, 04:17:41 PM
The BBC Red Dwarf series are being shown back to back in reverse order on Dave channel.
This is just going to get better and better...
Can see poor old series seven getting a few less viewers than any of the other ones . . .
Quote from: strontium_dog_90 on 09 September, 2012, 06:54:48 PM
Can see poor old series seven getting a few less viewers than any of the other ones . . .
I have a real soft spot for Series VII, although I understand I'm in the minority there. I found VIII rather weak in places although I didn't dislike it. Interestingly, both had great viewing figures by the general public at the time, although I wonder how much that was due to the prospect of new Dwarf rather than quality.
Quote from: Mardroid on 10 September, 2012, 12:30:06 AM
Quote from: strontium_dog_90 on 09 September, 2012, 06:54:48 PM
Can see poor old series seven getting a few less viewers than any of the other ones . . .
I have a real soft spot for Series VII, although I understand I'm in the minority there. I found VIII rather weak in places although I didn't dislike it. Interestingly, both had great viewing figures by the general public at the time, although I wonder how much that was due to the prospect of new Dwarf rather than quality.
The inclusion of Kochanski was a big mistake IMO, although I accept they needed to do something about Chris Barries departure.
Looking forward to new series but what the hell's going on with Krytens face? He looks more like the the version from series 2! (don't know if it's been mentioned before, I haven't read the whole thread-sorry)
Cheers :)
Oh Kochanski is the source of much debate in my house. Red Dwarf is a favorite of me and the missus, but she hates Chloe Annet's Kochanski for some reason and will only consider Grogan to be the character, whereas I see Chloe Annet as the definitive Kochanski for the basic reason that I really quite fancy her.
Best reason.
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 14 September, 2012, 10:32:25 PM
Oh Kochanski is the source of much debate in my house. Red Dwarf is a favorite of me and the missus, but she hates Chloe Annet's Kochanski for some reason and will only consider Grogan to be the character, whereas I see Chloe Annet as the definitive Kochanski for the basic reason that I really quite fancy her.
I initially fell in lust with Chloe Annet before RD - there was some BBC time travel thingy that she was in and she won me over totally in that, so I was delighted when i heard she was taking the role. I think my affection for the later series is largely down to her to be honest, in all other respects they were pretty crap compared to the first four or five.
When is this on? Is it tomorrow?
EDIT: By which I mean, is it broadcast for the first time on Saturday 22nd September 2012?
4th October, 9pm.
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 14 September, 2012, 10:32:25 PM
Oh Kochanski is the source of much debate in my house. Red Dwarf is a favorite of me and the missus, but she hates Chloe Annet's Kochanski for some reason and will only consider Grogan to be the character, whereas I see Chloe Annet as the definitive Kochanski for the basic reason that I really quite fancy her.
I'm with your missus on that one. Still, your reasoning is sound as I definitely fancy Clare Grogan ;)
Must remember to set the box, off to the big smoke on the 4th.
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I initially fell in lust with Chloe Annet before RD - there was some BBC time travel thingy that she was in and she won me over totally in that, so I was delighted when i heard she was taking the role. I think my affection for the later series is largely down to her to be honest, in all other respects they were pretty crap compared to the first four or five.
The show was called The Crime Traveler and I hate myself for knowing that...
Series X is good fun, but does anyone else get sick of the laughter? I read that it is filmed in front of a live audience. If so, it must be a very fannish live audience. If the laughter is scripted, it must read like this:
Lister: I feel awful
[AUDIENCE LAUGHTER]
Rimmer: I don't feel very well either
[AUDIENCE LAUGHTER]
Cat enters the room and smiles a bit
[AUDIENCE LAUGHTER]
Cat: Hey guys, what's up
[AUDIENCE LAUGHTER]