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Title: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: antodonnell on 13 August, 2012, 08:40:50 PM
Hi all,

I was wondering if there are others out there planning to take a shot at this ?

http://thoughtbubblefestival.com/events/2000ad-portfolio-competition/ (http://thoughtbubblefestival.com/events/2000ad-portfolio-competition/)
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: Jon on 13 August, 2012, 09:28:07 PM
Yeah, I was hoping to... if time allows....
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: antodonnell on 13 August, 2012, 10:00:37 PM
Hi Jon,

Saw your recent work you defo should :) I'm also tempted but I'm gauging my time now. I owe it to my younger self to give it a shot. I thought this board would be heaving with entries in progress.
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: Jon on 13 August, 2012, 10:15:09 PM
Heh, it probably is. Maybe it's not the canny thing to mention it? ;)

I know what you mean, though. I really need to tick "get published in the comic that's partly but significantly responsible for how things turned out for me" off the to-do list.

I like your stuff a lot, I hope you can find the time.

I missed out on it last year because I found out about it too late. Know about it well in advance this year, but I'm unlikely to be able to make a start until October. Still, after a few small press offerings and some forum competitions, four pages isn't quite the daunting task it once was... I hope...

All the best, anyway. No doubt see you in Leeds. :)
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: antodonnell on 13 August, 2012, 10:39:35 PM
LOL 

QuoteI really need to tick "get published in the comic that's partly but significantly responsible for how things turned out for me" off the to-do list.

Same boat for me really. I wanted to do comics, studied classical animation, got in game development ....

I kinda got side tracked. I only saw this years announcement thanks to twitter.

Hopefully see you there then :)
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: Danbell on 13 August, 2012, 11:10:08 PM
I'm going to give it a go. It's a good choice of script as in that it's quite challenging. Most of the action happens in one room (which has to be consistent) and there's a lot design involved. Also, a lot of talking (lizard men) heads to keep interesting.

Good luck with it!

Dan
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: antodonnell on 13 August, 2012, 11:22:06 PM
Hi Dan,

All valid points and my first thoughts too. Nothing like a challenge to sharpen up the skills :P I'll post work up once I'm happy to show it.
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: MenschMaschine on 19 August, 2012, 12:14:07 PM
Hi,everyone...I'll be taking part of it,working on this script right now and it's got lots of fun stuff to draw. Great oportunity to get in the prog(for the luckiest bastard of all) but also great oportunity of learning once we'll be queuing with a bunch of blokes and gals with different approache on the same stuff,that's really cool.
Good luck folks!!
http://brunostahl.deviantart.com/ (http://brunostahl.deviantart.com/)
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 19 August, 2012, 02:53:26 PM
Good luck Bruno, you kick serious arse!
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: MenschMaschine on 22 August, 2012, 06:52:25 PM
Quote from: CrazyFoxMachine on 19 August, 2012, 02:53:26 PM
Good luck Bruno, you kick serious arse!
Thanks Owen....I'm not sure if I'm mastering the art of ass kicking,I'm able to slap a few butts though.
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: Bolt-01 on 22 August, 2012, 07:11:11 PM
I'm really hoping to see a few of these entries. Bruno would be a good match for this, too.
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: MenschMaschine on 27 August, 2012, 09:47:00 PM
Quote from: Bolt-01 on 22 August, 2012, 07:11:11 PM
I'm really hoping to see a few of these entries. Bruno would be a good match for this, too.
So here it comes, Bolt...I could find  only a single scene from the original  though. I have no idea how it looks like...perhaps better this way...


http://www.brunostahl.deviantart.com/ (http://www.brunostahl.deviantart.com/)
http://stahlmench.tumblr.com/ (http://stahlmench.tumblr.com/)
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 27 August, 2012, 10:31:55 PM
YES. BRUNO STAHL FOR KING OF THE UNIVERSE.
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: MenschMaschine on 28 August, 2012, 02:10:07 PM
Cheers,Crazyfox,but leave this king thang for the Camerons and Liefelds,I always dreamed of be an art droid...or a replicant,whatever comes first. :)
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: Jon on 28 August, 2012, 04:58:05 PM
Aw, man, I really have to get started on this....

Nice work!
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: Darren Stephens on 28 August, 2012, 05:19:00 PM
Wow, I've skimmed this thread a few times and missed that picture post from Bruno. Looks bloody great, that. Wish I could see it clearer,though....hint, hint. :P
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: antodonnell on 28 August, 2012, 08:33:13 PM
Solid work Bruno, the story was in prog 1711. I had 2 shots similar on page one. Will consider revising these.
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: MenschMaschine on 29 August, 2012, 05:55:07 PM
Quote from: Jon on 28 August, 2012, 04:58:05 PM
Aw, man, I really have to get started on this....
Now!!!
Quote from: Darren Stephens on 28 August, 2012, 05:19:00 PM
Wow, I've skimmed this thread a few times and missed that picture post from Bruno. Looks bloody great, that. Wish I could see it clearer,though....hint, hint. :P
Thanks mate,I've tried to upload a bigger size but I couldn't,I'm like "a chimp riding on a rocket" when is about computers.
Quote from: antodonnell on 28 August, 2012, 08:33:13 PM
Solid work Bruno, the story was in prog 1711. I had 2 shots similar on page one. Will consider revising these.
Cheers,I guess I won't search out for it,probably Tharg wants to see a different approach on the script so better not to know how Carpenter dealt with it.
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: antodonnell on 29 August, 2012, 10:21:59 PM
QuoteCheers,I guess I won't search out for it,probably Tharg wants to see a different approach on the script so better not to know how Carpenter dealt with it.


In the end some panels of the script are so specific it's hard not to be totally different. My thinking at the moment is what's best for the story. If it happens to be similar then that's fine. It won't be a case of "copying" as I'm thinking through it all and have a different design sensability to Carpenter so it'll be fine.

It's the usual story of getting 100 artists to draw 100 horse. You get 100 different horses but they're all horses :)
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: RossBam on 06 November, 2012, 05:46:02 PM
I shall also have a go at this one - it's just too awesome a prize not to.

I don't want to give too much away of course but here's a couple of my fave panels from page 3:
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: Jon on 06 November, 2012, 05:57:33 PM
Heh, had forgotten about this thread. Getting close now, I guess.

There's a good chance I won't make it cos my game's Alpha-ing on the same weekend, but here's a page anyway...

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25024/TB_Page_02_WIP_4.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 06 November, 2012, 07:39:21 PM
You are John Higgins love-child and I claim my £5.
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 06 November, 2012, 07:41:27 PM
Quote from: The Enigmatic Dr X on 06 November, 2012, 07:39:21 PM
You are John Higgins love-child and I claim my £5.

Indeed. There's a healthy dollop of Dermot Power in that arm in the final panel, too, if'n yer askin' me...

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: TordelBack on 06 November, 2012, 08:18:44 PM
The colour lighting work in that is breathtakingly good, Jon - gives a great sense of depth, just like in those early Higgins colour stories.  Looking around for a clapping smiley... 
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: JTurner on 06 November, 2012, 08:20:31 PM
Seeing that made me glad that I didn't waste my time entering! Do think that looks a wee bit too much like a judge's arm, though. Odd how such a small detail can jar. Really like the flashback effect.
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: Jon on 06 November, 2012, 10:00:12 PM
Quote from: The Enigmatic Dr X on 06 November, 2012, 07:39:21 PM
You are John Higgins love-child and I claim my £5.

Uh, yeah. The colour, you mean? It's more to do with my inability to use Adobe colour profiles properly. Or....yeah, that's what I meant to do!

Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 06 November, 2012, 07:41:27 PM
Quote from: The Enigmatic Dr X on 06 November, 2012, 07:39:21 PM
You are John Higgins love-child and I claim my £5.

Indeed. There's a healthy dollop of Dermot Power in that arm in the final panel, too, if'n yer askin' me...

Cheers

Jim

So, the love child of John Higgins and Dermot Power. I'd heard the rumours, of course...

All similarities are unintentional, but years of assimilation and influence have to go somewhere. My trajectory as an 'artist' can be traced more or less directly from Star Wars, 2000 AD and that booklet that came with Jeff Wayne's War of the Worlds.

Quote from: TordelBack on 06 November, 2012, 08:18:44 PM
The colour lighting work in that is breathtakingly good, Jon - gives a great sense of depth, just like in those early Higgins colour stories.  Looking around for a clapping smiley... 

Thank you very much indeed TordelBack. You are definitely on my Xmas list.*

Quote from: JTurner on 06 November, 2012, 08:20:31 PM
Seeing that made me glad that I didn't waste my time entering! Do think that looks a wee bit too much like a judge's arm, though. Odd how such a small detail can jar. Really like the flashback effect.

Pfh! I don't think it would be a waste of time. For example, I get to claim the tax back on the whole trip to Leeds, should I make it.

I know what you mean about the arm, now that you single it out. If only that were the worst - or only - mistake...


*But it's just a list, really.

Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: CLOUDMAN on 07 November, 2012, 11:37:42 PM
Lovely stuff Jon, the colours are fantastic and that break-in scene is *ahem* smashing! Great sense of action and a lovely mood set, good luck to ya!

I only started thinking about having a crack at this myself a few days ago, not sure if I could realistically put out four pages between now and next Friday though. Might put my head down on the weekend and give it a shot...
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: Spikes on 08 November, 2012, 12:42:12 AM
Aye, lovely stuff indeed Jon.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: Jon on 08 November, 2012, 11:51:37 AM
Quote from: Judge Jack on 08 November, 2012, 12:42:12 AM
Aye, lovely stuff indeed Jon.  :thumbsup:

Quote from: CLOUDMAN on 07 November, 2012, 11:37:42 PM
Lovely stuff Jon, the colours are fantastic and that break-in scene is *ahem* smashing! Great sense of action and a lovely mood set, good luck to ya!

Thank you both. The encouragement I've had on this has been amazing, both here and over on my FB page.

Quote
I only started thinking about having a crack at this myself a few days ago, not sure if I could realistically put out four pages between now and next Friday though. Might put my head down on the weekend and give it a shot...

Wow! I thought I could knock stuff out quickly, but if you manage to pull off such a Dillon-esque feat I'd dearly love to see it. Amazing!

Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: Cpt Rhodes on 08 November, 2012, 12:49:55 PM
Looking very good. Good luck for the event.
I know I would baulk at doing a stand up presentation (if that is the way it's done) Couple of stiff drinks might get me through.
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: JTurner on 08 November, 2012, 02:31:04 PM
Jon - In the first flashback frame, did you create the buildings by scanning a scalpel blade and handle and putting on an overlay?

Fantastic effect if you did - I now know how to create an instant cityscape!
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: Jon on 08 November, 2012, 02:42:28 PM
Quote from: Alex on 08 November, 2012, 12:49:55 PM
Looking very good. Good luck for the event.
I know I would baulk at doing a stand up presentation (if that is the way it's done) Couple of stiff drinks might get me through.

Gah, is it? Hope not.

I've done some speaking/ presentations in universities and similar, so I suppose it's not the end of the world if that's the case. I once presented to a story-boarding course before realising halfway through that Dave McKean was sat at the rear of the room. Just about got away with it.

Anyway, it's all a bit of fun, innit? Fulfilling a childhood ambition and all that.

Quote from: JTurner on 08 November, 2012, 02:31:04 PM
Jon - In the first flashback frame, did you create the buildings by scanning a scalpel blade and handle and putting on an overlay?

Fantastic effect if you did - I now know how to create an instant cityscape!

:)

Ha!

No.

I wish I planned anything that well. I had this idea that I was going to do everything in a very heavy black ink style with colour washes. Was gonna work it all out beforehand. Then I got sidetracked looking at some concept art, and this just kind of came out.

The city is the result of the way I seem to end up doing everything, sadly; scribbling wildly and then trying desperately to pull back form. The "decision" to work that way was largely because it's scalable. Mre time = a more polished image, but at least you have something to start with.

My terrible working process can be seen here; https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.168391459916627.45182.105679529521154&type=3
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: CLOUDMAN on 09 November, 2012, 11:52:29 PM
Quote from: Jon on 08 November, 2012, 11:51:37 AM
Thank you both. The encouragement I've had on this has been amazing, both here and over on my FB page.

No problem! Dig your process on the FB page too!

QuoteWow! I thought I could knock stuff out quickly, but if you manage to pull off such a Dillon-esque feat I'd dearly love to see it. Amazing!

Yeah I'd surprise myself to be honest. But I won't be doing a fully-painted style like you, and I've been (sneakily) roughing thumbs and ideas out during work the last week so who knows...

(http://i.imgur.com/CvBvu.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: antodonnell on 10 November, 2012, 12:29:36 AM
Sweet, good to see some of the entries for this. Solid job with the colours Jon, can't wait to see more.

My entry got paused at the refined thumbs stage which kills me but overtime at work and a due Masters Degree module come first I guess :(

I hope thoughtbubble and 2000ad do the same next year also so I can have a shot.
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: MenschMaschine on 10 November, 2012, 03:07:34 PM
Quote from: RossBam on 06 November, 2012, 05:46:02 PM
It's the usual story of getting 100 artists to draw 100 horse. You get 100 different horses but they're all horses :)

Well true,would be great so see more of these "horses" after the Con.
Great colour schemes on that page Jon. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: MenschMaschine on 12 November, 2012, 01:11:20 PM
A last glimpse before Leeds.See ya there folks.
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: Jon on 20 November, 2012, 11:27:49 AM
Bruno, it was good to meet you briefly at the end there!

In the post-adrenal come down of the the portfolio comp I thought I'd put my pages up for posterity. As we only got to see the one page of each strip on the screen in the actual review, I thought it might be nice for everyone (on here at least) to reveal their hand now - if only to make sense of what the panel were saying in some cases.

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25024/TB_Page_01.jpg)

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25024/TB_Page_02.jpg)

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25024/TB_Page_03.jpg)

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25024/TB_Page_04.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: Batdan4ever on 21 November, 2012, 08:41:59 AM
Wow, everyone has submitted some amazing work for this, well done everyone!

I didnt get to go on the Sunday so don't know who won, does anyone know where we can see the winning entry?

Saturday was great. It was really interesting seeing how everyone had tackled the script and given their own spin on it. Peter Doherty was really generous with his time and spoke to a bunch of us for a while, giving us tips which was brilliant. Matt gave me some really constructive advice which was much appreciated.

I wasn't totally happy with my submission but I did learn a lot by doing it so it was a really positive experience, I hope they do a comp next year.

Anyway, here's the first page of my entry. I hope everyone else posts their stuff too, I saw some amazing work at TB!
Cheers
Dan

(http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n579/batdanuk/Comic%20Art/SELFINFLICTEDPAGE1web.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: Jon on 21 November, 2012, 10:21:17 AM
Quote from: Batdan4ever on 21 November, 2012, 08:41:59 AM

I didnt get to go on the Sunday so don't know who won, does anyone know where we can see the winning entry?

I don't know if his entry is up anywhere, but this chap won; http://whmorris.blogspot.co.uk/

Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: Batdan4ever on 21 November, 2012, 12:01:43 PM
ah, thanks Jon! I hope we get to see his pages, he's got a lovely style. Well done to Will!

Did you get through as a finalist Jon? I hope so, those pages are bloody fantastic!
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: Jon on 21 November, 2012, 12:07:01 PM
Thank you.

Yeah, I did. I think it was always very much a two-horse race though. :)
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: antodonnell on 21 November, 2012, 07:23:27 PM
Nice work all, I was unaware of Wills work. Really interesting still I like it a lot.

Thanks for posting the pages Jon, the work reminds me a lot of 90's 2000AD. That's a good thing :)
The main thing that I noticed was the slightly stiff gestures, if these were improved and the drawings had more dynamism and "life" it would be great.

I better start doodling for next year.
Title: Re: 2000ad portfolio comp - thoughtbubble
Post by: Jon on 21 November, 2012, 09:51:41 PM
Quote from: antodonnell on 21 November, 2012, 07:23:27 PM
The main thing that I noticed was the slightly stiff gestures,


Yeah, absolutely! Too eager to get going, not enough thought and planning. Poor panels and compositions too, and a lack of POV variety.

Luckily I'm a firm believer in learning the hard way.

Thanks for the feedback, appreciate it a lot.