I've always been a fan of the Turtles, so was kind of looking forward to this, despite Bays involvement. Must admit, though, this poster has taken away some of that hope. Anyone else looking forward to this / Think it's going to suck? Personally, I'm still looking forward to it, though more out of curiosity now. :D
(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j312/dikiminster/turtles_zps5ab1e9e1.png)
Another image, which looks like an action figure to me...
(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j312/dikiminster/turdles1_zps58409b33.jpg) :
I like the the poster. It does eem cool, even though it will never be as good as the original.
I couldn't give less of a fuck about this film. Michael Bay has already bored me to death with one terrible rehashing of a childhood franchise and I frankly can't be bothered to even bait him into this one. Also, who's stupid idea was it to cast 'actress' Megan Fox as April?
Yeh, Fox is a mistake, I feel. I wasn't ever into Transformers as a kid, so I don't really hate the movies as much as some, heh. This movie has more baggage for me, seeing as I've been a TMNT fan since the original black and white comics. I guess I'm just a little over optimistic, but time will tell. ;)
This is what the poster instantly reminded me of:
(http://www.scifinow.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/ghoulies.jpg)
One thing they can never get right is the bandanas. They don't actually look anything like a piece of material wrapped around the face but like some kind of moulded rubber thing.
It reminds me of the scene in The Simpsons where the marketing woman encourages the artist to needlessly over-design Poochie.
"Can we rastafy him up by, say, 10 percent?"
It just looks more dated and 90's than the actual 90's film.
Crap
Tough room! While I agree with JamesC about the bandanas, which look like something Enid from Ghostworld might wear for attention, I think the poster itself looks quite fun. The character design does move ever further from what I felt was an essential part of the original comics, which is that the turtles were visually indistinguishable from each other, apart from their weapons.
Megan Fox though? Seriously?
Well I think they look great. The bells and whistles have obviously been added to help distinguish each turtle visually which makes perfect sense to me from a character design point of view, especially in a live-action film.
If anyone tries to claim the 90s Jim Henson rubber suits somehow look better, I'd suggest they go back and watch the film, because while they have a certain amount of charm, they look incredibly ropey these days, especially the facial animation, and also have the drawback of being prosthetic suits, so that each turtle looks about seven feet tall standing next to the actors.
It always me laugh when people get so bent out of shape about Transformers and the like, as if the original cartoon was a literary work rather than a cynical toy advert. And while the Turtles have a bit more credibility thanks to their indie comic roots, as a concept it's deliberately goofy - a Frank Miller parody no less, and hardly sacrosanct. I'd venture to say that the majority of interpretations of it are shite. I remember when the script leaked and it was revealed that in this version the turtles were aliens and all the fanboys lost their shit. What, because that's somehow less silly than them being ordinary turtles mutated by nuclear waste? If you ask me it makes sense to streamline their origin story and make it less contrived.
As for the film, it'll probably be a bit poo, but Bay's not actually directing is he? Just producing iirc.
Quote from: TordelBack on 01 February, 2014, 10:58:25 AM
Tough room!
Haha, yeh! I guess that explains the absence of an existing thread for the movie. :lol: I do agree, though, it does look dated. Reminds me, not of the ghoulies, but of that terrible TV show about the family of dinosaurs....I forget what it was called, but it was probably just called dinosaurs knowing my luck.
Dinosaurs? Yeah, it was called Dinosaurs. :lol:
And yes, it was shite.
Michelangelo looks more feminine and less like a party dude than I would have expected.
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 01 February, 2014, 11:47:32 AM
Dinosaurs? Yeah, it was called Dinosaurs. :lol:
And yes, it was shite.
That it was, Sir, that it was. :D
Quote from: radiator on 01 February, 2014, 11:25:03 AMI remember when the script leaked and it was revealed that in this version the turtles were aliens and all the fanboys lost their shit.
What, because that's somehow less silly than them being ordinary turtles mutated by nuclear waste? If you ask me it makes sense to streamline their origin story and make it less contrived.
Their case not helped by the fact the 'Retromutagen Ooze' was
alien in origin anyway.
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 01 February, 2014, 08:44:37 AM
Also, who's stupid idea was it to cast 'actress' Megan Fox as April?
Megan Fox is perfectly fine as April.
The film seemingly has other problems, but imo Megan Fox is not one of them. Please feel free to convince me why her casting is so awful, though.
She's a shite actress, if you can accomodate enough leverage to even call her one.
I approve of the Turtles looking slightly different so you know who is who. Films aren't captioned to tell you. Though I would prefer the all blue bandanas just once.
I haven't read anything about the film other than on here.
My Granddaughter is a fan of the rebooted cartoon so I think she will love this.
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 01 February, 2014, 02:29:50 PM
She's a shite actress, if you can accomodate enough leverage to even call her one.
Yes, because the character of April O'Neil needs an Oscar-worthy actress. ::)
Quote from: Bat King on 01 February, 2014, 02:35:22 PM
Though I would prefer the all blue bandanas just once.
Ugh, I hate to be this way...but on a forum where arguing about chain links is commonplace, I guess this isn't so bad: the bandanas were all originally red.
Good actress > Bad actress. Every time, irregardless of the role.
Right, but you've given no real reason for your overdramatic response to Megan Fox being in the film. Is Megan Fox going to make or break this film for you? Is it really something to be bothered over?
I'm about (as many fellow boarders can attest) as big a TMNT fan as you're likely to come across. There's much more to be "concerned" about in regards to this film. The latest developments, including Megan Fox, have actually been a relief considering the early leaked drafts and rumors of the Turtles origin story being way out of whack, to the original Skeksis-looking designs of the Turtles.
So, yeah, Megan Fox, not too worried about her. No Oroku Saki, that deserves fans' ire.
Name me a single film where she's in anyway provided a decent performance. Frankly, and I don't say this often, I could act better than she could.
Well there was picture of new Shredder, being played by William Fichtner online few days ago...
(http://i.imgur.com/Yy3wNuZ.jpg?1)
April is an intelligent woman, Megan Fox could pull off intelligent as much as Liv Tyler could pull off being a believable scientist.
Unless she's ditsy dumb eye candy "something for the dads" (as Dara obrien would say) in this movie then she'll fit right in.
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 01 February, 2014, 06:36:19 PM
Name me a single film where she's in anyway provided a decent performance. Frankly, and I don't say this often, I could act better than she could.
Jennifer's Body.
I really liked that film. Not that I'm saying it was particularly intelligent or that it stretched Megan's acting talents but she certainly did the job in what was an entertaining flick.
Horses for courses I guess. I thought it was pure shite. :lol:
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 01 February, 2014, 06:55:52 PM
Horses for courses I guess. I thought it was pure shite. :lol:
Ridiculous. You ask for an example of her in a quality role, an example is given (I was also going to mention Jennifer's Body, thanks JamesC), and you immediately dismiss the example as "shite". End of discussion, apparently. I guess you aren't being overdramatic; you are genuinely outraged that Megan Fox is in a movie.
Sheesh.
Nah, im not outraged, indeed I'm passively interested in this film to be frank, and it's all subjective at the end of the day. Even if we where to say that Jennifer's Body was the pinnacle of Fox's acting talent, we wouldn't be looking at a very high caliber though would we. And I really don't see why you think I'm making a big deal out of this, I was simply surprised anyone thought she would be a good fit for April, who is for all intense and purposes quite a liberated character with actual personality traits (by Ninja Turtle standards anyway), rather than a cut and pasted archetype that Fox seem's only to be able to play. Can't help but feel your being a little hyperbolic here. :P
The interesting thing is that Kevin Eastman himself was very happy about Megan Fox being cast as April...
Like I said, her being cast as April is by far the least of my concerns as a fan.
Note to Goaty: Shredder is indeed in the film, but the traditional Oroku Saki character is not.
Im not a massive TMNT fan (fell into the Transformers crowd myself) but even I respect what the initial creations stood for, and as much as I think the origin story choices are to far removed from the original take, the casting choice for me was the final (and largest) nail in the coffin. As far as I'm concerned, now it's just a matter of how much it will suck.
QuoteCan't help but feel your being a little hyperbolic here.
Says the man who dismissed Jonathan Ross as a 'cunt'.
Did I not apologise for that or must I do that again? ::)
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 01 February, 2014, 07:48:29 PM
Did I not apologise for that or must I do that again? ::)
I'm pointing out the irony/hypocrisy of you accusing someone else of hyperbole.
I said something stupid at a moment of high emotion which I latter apologised for. Why open healed wounds?
Did you actually READ my last post?
What do you think I was replying to? Im not in the habit of double posting unless necessary. I said something stupid some time ago. I apologised. I thought as a mod you would have had more sense than to drag dead bodies out of the lake when they are best left undisturbed.
*sigh* Never mind... continue...
::)
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 01 February, 2014, 07:36:56 PM
I respect what the initial creations stood for, and as much as I think the origin story choices are to far removed from the original take, the casting choice for me was the final (and largest) nail in the coffin.
As I said, when Megan Fox was cast as April, Kevin Eastman - the (co)creator of TMNT - took to facebook and said how pleased he was that she's playing the part. So if the guy who created the Turtles is willing to give Megan Fox a shot, why would you - or anyone - decided she's the "final nail in the coffin"?
Thats his two pence, sure I respect that, I disagree though. From what I can tell she has the acting potential of a spoon. :lol:
Michael Bay is perfectly capable of making shite movies without the help of Ms Fox. She's been in two of his previous movies and she was hardly the worst thing about them. I reckon Shite Lebeef would have been cast as Casey Jones, had it not been for the mean old internet bullying him into retirement.
Exactly - this is a Micheal Bay film; it'll be a minor miracle if Megan Fox is the worst thing about it.
Bay isn't directing this, though.
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 01 February, 2014, 09:54:40 PM
Exactly - this is a Micheal Bay film; it'll be a minor miracle if Megan Fox is the worst thing about it.
Having seen the catastrophe in heels that replaced her in
Transformers 3, I can only agree.
Months ago, when the news first broke, there was a huge backlash against her being cast as April on various Turtles forums and sites - so much so that, as I said, Eastman posted on facebook in support of her. And you know, when you see her wearing the yellow jumpsuit (in the pics that leaked way back), she looks great, she works.
As for Megan Fox's acting skills - April is not a deep, complex character by any means. There is only a single comics story arc - in the second Mirage TMNT volume - in which April's character is really developed; otherwise she's a Scooby-Doo character at best, a damsel-in-distress at worst, and really not much featured at all. It's the later movies and cartoons that really made April into the "central supporting character" she is now (but she remained the same Scooby-Doo character from the comics).
Really, Megan will be just fine in this as April. I can't understand someone actually believing Megan Fox as April is worse than the TMNT as aliens...ffs.
As much as I think that Megan Fox's casting as April O'Neil is perfectly satisfactory I totally respect Hawkmonger's right to dislike the actress and to think she's shite and to have a personal opinion that he won't enjoy the film because of this.
Try to dissuade him from this opinion by all means, but there's no need to open old wounds or attack him.
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Quote from: Bat King on 01 February, 2014, 02:35:22 PM
Though I would prefer the all blue bandanas just once.
Ugh, I hate to be this way...but on a forum where arguing about chain links is commonplace, I guess this isn't so bad: the bandanas were all originally red.
Oh my... see, that is how often we see the original colours...
And no, it was a valid correction.
Here's some of the action figures, apparently. These actually look pretty good to me!
(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j312/dikiminster/_20140202_090310_zps20897a9e.jpg)
Not standard ninja-wear.
So that poster is actually a toy convention poster...
I'm not so sure about the new Turtle designs - the noses bother me. Raph is a little too muscular. These designs remind me a bit of the awful Jim Lee Image Turtles, and worse, the live action Next Mutation Turtles...
The old-school movies did it right, as far as bringing the TMNT to a live action film, IMO.
To me they look over designed - much like the Transformers were in their live action films.
Quote from: JamesC on 02 February, 2014, 08:07:50 PM
To me they look over designed - much like the Transformers were in their live action films.
I was about to say that - !
Like the dwarves in the Hobbit (although I suppose there's better reason there) - they are obviously trying to make each turtle look completely distinct. I see stuff like that though and it just makes me think of an overworked art department desperately turning in redesign after redesign rather than being convinced by the character.
If only the writers on blockbusters worked as hard as the design folk....!
Why do they bother with masks ;)
They look like they've covered themselves with glue and run through TK Maxx, blindfolded.
I thought the main defining characteristic of a ninja was that they hide in the shadows and are rarely seen. Good luck doing that when you're dressed as a multi-coloured tramp.
Quote from: Spaceghost on 03 February, 2014, 09:30:39 AM
They look like they've covered themselves with glue and run through TK Maxx, blindfolded.
Best comment ever :lol:
More worryingly is Mikey appears to have a low cut plastron (I had to look that up). Did he mutilate himself.
He also has some kind of hoodie or sweatshirt tied around his waist. I would imagine either is quite a difficult garment to wear when you've got a bloody great shell on your back.
In this modern day (which I'm sure the film will be set), wouldn't they just get shot by all the baddies in the US, especially with the amount of guns on the streets. Turtle soup anyone ;)
(http://i.imgur.com/2axQ87Q.jpg?1)
For me, this has the same feeling of 'overcooked' about the character designs as Bay's Transformers movies have. Too much going on, design wise.
First trailer.
Mmmm looks poor... very transformers CGI?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCjsWpM9zFU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCjsWpM9zFU)
Looks like shite warmed up.
I was impressed by the little set models and the poster kinda sealed it for me as far as the designs are concerned. Though I'm not a fan of certain elements like Don's glasses or Raphael being The Incredible Hulk. I'm just glad those horrible toys weren't leaked first.
Shredder looks like...Shredder. I love the casting too. Which is more than I can say for Megan Fox, so I agree with Hawkmonger on that point. Whatever though.
The trailer's pretty short on detail but I suspect the end product could range anywhere between the polished-but-not-particularly-exciting Amazing Spider-Man and the extremely-offensive-yet-action-packed Bayformer sequels. Somewhere in the middle would be ideal, I think.
And I love the Raphael fastball!
Honest I do really think that Turtles looks shite. But someone did try out why the classic is better.
"Ninja Turtles" New Design vs. Classic Redesign
(http://i.imgur.com/qwWRxGI.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Go3d1oa.jpg)