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Title: It's the World Cup: Sam Slade '82 v Big Dave '94
Post by: ZenArcade on 15 June, 2014, 12:33:52 AM
It's the Summer; we've got an even numbered year; the Olympics was 2 years ago.....yes, it's that quadrennial celebration of WAG's, dodgy decisions and of course football.
So who wins the battle of the World Cup storylines in 2000ad, is it Super Sam Slade or Manchesters finest: Big Dave???
Title: Re: It's the World Cup: Sam Slade '82 v Big Dave '94
Post by: Professor Bear on 15 June, 2014, 01:33:15 AM
I vote for Big Dave, as Robo Hunter didn't have racism and homophobia so it wasn't much like fotball at all.
Title: Re: It's the World Cup: Sam Slade '82 v Big Dave '94
Post by: Leigh S on 15 June, 2014, 09:47:54 AM
Quote from: Kennari Bjarndýr on 15 June, 2014, 01:33:15 AM
I vote for Big Dave, as Robo Hunter didn't have racism and homophobia so it wasn't much like fotball at all.

Well, you say that.....

But I'd still vote for Sam Slade, Brian.
Title: Re: It's the World Cup: Sam Slade '82 v Big Dave '94
Post by: Frank on 15 June, 2014, 10:29:30 AM

Both stories could have been improved by the addition of commentary by Phil Neville, grimly intoning doom, death and ultimate destruction, like The Voice Of The Mysterons (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=bV8YbLvGrb0#t=61).

Title: Re: It's the World Cup: Sam Slade '82 v Big Dave '94
Post by: Trout on 15 June, 2014, 03:57:03 PM
Quote from: Leigh S on 15 June, 2014, 09:47:54 AM
Quote from: Kennari Bjarndýr on 15 June, 2014, 01:33:15 AM
I vote for Big Dave, as Robo Hunter didn't have racism and homophobia so it wasn't much like fotball at all.

Well, you say that.....

But I'd still vote for Sam Slade, Brian.

I agree, Brian.

What do you think, Brian?
Title: Re: It's the World Cup: Sam Slade '82 v Big Dave '94
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 15 June, 2014, 06:05:33 PM
Well, there was that 'blakee pentax' bit...
I'm going to go with Dave, anyway, because Nelson Mandela doing voodoo is outrageously offensive but funny all the same (in my mind anyway).
Title: Re: It's the World Cup: Sam Slade '82 v Big Dave '94
Post by: Frank on 15 June, 2014, 09:17:03 PM

France-Honduras game: one Brian has just had to patiently explain to the other Brian that the goal line technology revealing the ball to have rebounded off the post (NO GOAL) and then gone in off a rebound from the goalie's heel (GOAL) does not constitute a flaw in the technology or a controversy. Five minutes later, Brian has just referred to the goal as a controversy.

Title: Re: It's the World Cup: Sam Slade '82 v Big Dave '94
Post by: Fungus on 15 June, 2014, 09:29:30 PM
Yeah, he's convinced an inquest still needed into this confounded technology. It's pretty embarrassing, all in.
Title: Re: It's the World Cup: Sam Slade '82 v Big Dave '94
Post by: ZenArcade on 15 June, 2014, 09:33:15 PM
Watching this really shows how the guys nailed this nincompoopery down in '82.
Title: Re: It's the World Cup: Sam Slade '82 v Big Dave '94
Post by: ZenArcade on 15 June, 2014, 10:38:37 PM
Brian Juninio; Brian shearer; Brian Lennon and Brian Lineker are lining up for tonights comment fest.
Title: Re: It's the World Cup: Sam Slade '82 v Big Dave '94
Post by: Recrewt on 16 June, 2014, 05:06:07 PM
Quote from: ISISauchie on 15 June, 2014, 09:17:03 PM

France-Honduras game: one Brian has just had to patiently explain to the other Brian that the goal line technology revealing the ball to have rebounded off the post (NO GOAL) and then gone in off a rebound from the goalie's heel (GOAL) does not constitute a flaw in the technology or a controversy. Five minutes later, Brian has just referred to the goal as a controversy.

Yeah, how annoying was that last night?  There was zero confusion or controversy and yet they kept referring to it as such for the rest of the game.   >:(

I think Big Dave would have liked that game as Honduras clearly decided at some point to stop trying to get the ball and just take out the man!
Title: Re: It's the World Cup: Sam Slade '82 v Big Dave '94
Post by: Frank on 16 June, 2014, 05:37:56 PM
Quote from: Recrewt on 16 June, 2014, 05:06:07 PM
I think Big Dave would have liked that game as Honduras clearly decided at some point to stop trying to get the ball and just take out the man!

I'm sure some of the Nazi eleven Dave played were the descendants of high ranking DAP officials who fled to Honduras to avoid appearing in the dock at Nuremberg. I'm with Jayzus on the hilarity of Nelson Mandela's practice of voodoo, although I'm sure I really shouldn't find it funny at all.

I heard some radio discussion of England-Italy while driving around for work today, and had to remind myself that they only lost 2-1 in the group stages to four times winners of the tournament. From the funereal and self lacerating tone of the discussion, you would have thought they'd been hammered 5-1 by San Marino. Particularly baffled by the inquest into Rooney's under performance and questions as to whether he should be dropped entirely, since he set up their only goal with one of the shots of the tournament so far.

Honestly, it makes me GLAD Scotland never qualify anymore, since we're spared this kind of national gnashing of teeth, wailing and breast beating in the media. GLAD, I say ...

Title: Re: It's the World Cup: Sam Slade '82 v Big Dave '94
Post by: Recrewt on 16 June, 2014, 05:45:55 PM
Yup, we also had to endure several days of being told how totally unsuitable/unplayable the pitch was for the first England game only to see on the big day that there was NOTHING wrong with it at all.  ::)
Title: Re: It's the World Cup: Sam Slade '82 v Big Dave '94
Post by: ZenArcade on 16 June, 2014, 05:52:13 PM
It is the endlessly recurring tragicomedy played out every 4 years. A barely veiled dislike of Johnny foreigner counterpointed by excoriating self recrimination when things go wrong. Oh well it could be worse, you should see some of the RTE commentry.
Title: Re: It's the World Cup: Sam Slade '82 v Big Dave '94
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 16 June, 2014, 07:27:05 PM
I've been reading 2000ad since 1980.

I remember the Sam Slade story, 32 years ago. I cannot recall the Big Dave story.

And that is why I think it's got to be Slade.

(Brian)

Title: Re: It's the World Cup: Sam Slade '82 v Big Dave '94
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 16 June, 2014, 07:27:29 PM
Also: I operated on my own brian!
Title: Re: It's the World Cup: Sam Slade '82 v Big Dave '94
Post by: Trout on 17 June, 2014, 02:09:40 AM
Quote from: The Enigmatic Dr X on 16 June, 2014, 07:27:29 PM
Also: I operated on my own brian!

Well said, Brian!
Title: Re: It's the World Cup: Sam Slade '82 v Big Dave '94
Post by: I, Cosh on 17 June, 2014, 11:20:43 AM
Quote from: The Enigmatic Dr X on 16 June, 2014, 07:27:05 PM
I remember the Sam Slade story, 32 years ago. I cannot recall the Big Dave story.
Snap. In general, I find Big Dave a lot funnier than Robo Hunter but I have no recollection of the story so it's got to be Football Crazy.

Of course, Billy the Fish is better than either:
"Great on the ball mathematics from the balding academic!"
"Yes Geoff, he even incorporated a formula to send the keeper the wrong way."
Title: Re: It's the World Cup: Sam Slade '82 v Big Dave '94
Post by: Frank on 17 June, 2014, 02:22:27 PM
Quote from: The Cosh on 17 June, 2014, 11:20:43 AM
In general, I find Big Dave a lot funnier than Robo Hunter but I have no recollection of the story

You don't remember the zombie corpse of Bobby Moore taking to the world cup stage with three lions (and a touch of brain matter) on his shirt once more?

Title: Re: It's the World Cup: Sam Slade '82 v Big Dave '94
Post by: ZenArcade on 19 June, 2014, 07:26:19 PM
Ok I'm Irish and a life-long fan of Uraguayan football, but hope England do well tonight. Z
Title: Re: It's the World Cup: Sam Slade '82 v Big Dave '94
Post by: Grant Goggans on 19 June, 2014, 09:34:54 PM
Help me, Hive Mind!

So Jürgen Klinsmann is coaching the American team.  I have a distant memory that I should know him from a reference in 2000 AD, but I can't remember it.  Does anybody recall one of the script droids making a cheeky reference to him that would not have made sense to somebody who doesn't follow your football much, or ever?
Title: Re: It's the World Cup: Sam Slade '82 v Big Dave '94
Post by: Frank on 19 June, 2014, 09:54:59 PM

Klinsmann enjoyed a reputation for diving (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB7Y33VteME) * during his time with Spurs (1994-1995 and 1997-1998), so I assume the reference would feature in a story from either of those periods, perhaps featuring a submarine or parachuting.


* pretending to have been tackled to the ground
Title: Re: It's the World Cup: Sam Slade '82 v Big Dave '94
Post by: Greg M. on 19 June, 2014, 09:57:44 PM
Could be totally wrong, but might it have been in Bix Barton? Klinsmann was, as Sauchie notes, known for diving excessively when tackled, and I have a suspicion Pete Milligan might have made reference to that.
Title: Re: It's the World Cup: Sam Slade '82 v Big Dave '94
Post by: ZenArcade on 19 June, 2014, 10:08:36 PM
Need to go over old progs, Greg could be right. Z bad luck England, that Suarez is something else. Total footballer.
Title: Re: It's the World Cup: Sam Slade '82 v Big Dave '94
Post by: Frank on 19 June, 2014, 10:14:51 PM
Quote from: Greg M. on 19 June, 2014, 09:57:44 PM
Could be totally wrong, but might it have been in Bix Barton? Klinsmann was, as Sauchie notes, known for diving excessively when tackled, and I have a suspicion Pete Milligan might have made reference to that

Now you say that, Greg, I know instinctively that you're right. Can't remember the specific line or context though.

Title: Re: It's the World Cup: Sam Slade '82 v Big Dave '94
Post by: Grant Goggans on 20 June, 2014, 12:37:33 AM
Thanks!  Knowing his dates with the Spurs meant that if it was Barton, it could only be "Nigel, the Napoleon of East Finchley," and there it is in part 4 in prog 915, when Bix fakes his death.
Title: Re: It's the World Cup: Sam Slade '82 v Big Dave '94
Post by: Frank on 20 June, 2014, 06:45:16 AM
Quote from: Grant Goggans on 20 June, 2014, 12:37:33 AM
Thanks!  Knowing his dates with the Spurs meant that if it was Barton, it could only be "Nigel, the Napoleon of East Finchley," and there it is in part 4 in prog 915, when Bix fakes his death

If only there were some way of joining our tails together, we could form a Rat King.

Title: Re: It's the World Cup: Sam Slade '82 v Big Dave '94
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 20 June, 2014, 07:48:07 AM
Quote from: Islamic State of Iraq and Sauchie on 20 June, 2014, 06:45:16 AM
Quote from: Grant Goggans on 20 June, 2014, 12:37:33 AM
Thanks!  Knowing his dates with the Spurs meant that if it was Barton, it could only be "Nigel, the Napoleon of East Finchley," and there it is in part 4 in prog 915, when Bix fakes his death

If only there were some way of joining our tails together, we could form a Rat King hivemind.

FTFY