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Title: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Goaty on 25 November, 2015, 06:05:16 AM
Trailer's here!

That ending...

https://www.youtube.com/embed/uVdV-lxRPFo (https://www.youtube.com/embed/uVdV-lxRPFo)
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 25 November, 2015, 06:28:12 AM
Looks terrible and I loved how Cap and Bucky both stood in front of Tony during the fight at the end, rather than opposite each other, so he couldn't take them both on. Dire!
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Goaty on 25 November, 2015, 08:33:57 AM
(http://cdn2-www.comingsoon.net/assets/uploads/gallery/captain-america-3-1413251820/civilwarsmall.jpg)

(http://cdn1-www.comingsoon.net/assets/uploads/gallery/captain-america-3-1413251820/civilwar2.jpg)

(http://cdn1-www.comingsoon.net/assets/uploads/gallery/captain-america-3-1413251820/civilwar3.jpg)
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 25 November, 2015, 09:53:34 AM
I hope Bucky isn't going to be the sole trigger for this, because that feels a bit naff.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 25 November, 2015, 10:31:53 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 25 November, 2015, 06:28:12 AM
Looks terrible and I loved how Cap and Bucky both stood in front of Tony during the fight at the end, rather than opposite each other, so he couldn't take them both on. Dire!

I wouldn't let a little thing like people not using correct tactics they're trained in ruin your enjoyment of the movie about flying super strong people.

In stressful situations people do all sorts of daft stuff. Even trained soldiers.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 25 November, 2015, 10:56:48 AM
The super hero misunderstanding moment -it's finally here! Looks impressive but  I can't quite believe  Captain America would really go rogue just for a friend. I feel that's more Tony Stark, Black widow or Dr Banner territory who are much more unhappy towards authority than Captain America. Also, Bucky? Isn't that a Dog's name like Rover? I assume it's the evil of the greater good impinging on the 'rights of the individual' storyline which particularly applies to superheroes who as we all know are a downtrodden minority in the good ol' US of A.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: The Adventurer on 25 November, 2015, 04:28:45 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 25 November, 2015, 09:53:34 AM
I hope Bucky isn't going to be the sole trigger for this, because that feels a bit naff.

Not nearly as naff as the New Warriors blowing up a school.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: auxlen on 25 November, 2015, 04:36:11 PM
Looking forward to this. Not sure how they can do it in one film...as I'm familiar with the comic event. as a kid I took captain america too literally and these films have done the character great credit...i think Age of ultron was a setup for this to show Iron man as a bit of a tool (maybe?). As an aside not i cannot recommend enough h

http://www.graphicaudiointernational.net/marvel-civil-war.html
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 November, 2015, 06:24:05 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 25 November, 2015, 09:53:34 AM
I hope Bucky isn't going to be the sole trigger for this, because that feels a bit naff.

Synopsis.

Marvel's Captain America: Civil War finds Steve Rogers leading the newly formed team of Avengers in their continued efforts to safeguard humanity. But after another incident involving the Avengers results in collateral damage, political pressure mounts to install a system of accountability, headed by a governing body to oversee and direct the team. The new status quo fractures the Avengers, resulting in two camps—one led by Steve Rogers and his desire for the Avengers to remain free to defend humanity without government interference, and the other following Tony Stark's surprising decision to support government oversight and accountability. Get ready to pick a side and join the nonstop action playing out on two fronts when Marvel's Captain America: Civil War opens in U.S. theaters on May.

Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 25 November, 2015, 07:14:56 PM
What this film needs other than a cameo of myself is the sudden appearance of a authoritarian futuristic lawman to show them the fate of all heroes.

Quite liked it, Panther pussycat looked quite good the few seconds we saw him. Bucky/ Cap ok, Stark votes Nixon and wants greater freedom for mega -corps. Who can argue with that, mister terrorist commie? :-X

Might be interesting if they play up the dangers to democracy of the corp/gov angle as represented by Iron Man.

Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 25 November, 2015, 07:32:37 PM
Decidedly nonplussed by this.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: The Adventurer on 25 November, 2015, 07:33:49 PM
Quoteut after another incident involving the Avengers results in collateral damage

Hmmm... I thought the new Avengers line-up at the end of Age of Ultron was looking rather 'B-Team'.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: radiator on 25 November, 2015, 08:11:26 PM
It's not really doing anything for me and just seems to back up certain prejudices I have against superhero media (ie that a lot of superhero 'stories' are really just contrived excuses for them to have extended fights with each other).

I also didn't really see what all the fuss was about with Winter Soldier. It had some enjoyable sequences but taken as a whole I thought was decidedly muddled.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Jimmy Baker's Assistant on 25 November, 2015, 08:41:47 PM
Quote from: radiator on 25 November, 2015, 08:11:26 PM
It's not really doing anything for me and just seems to back up certain prejudices I have against superhero media (ie that a lot of superhero 'stories' are really just contrived excuses for them to have extended fights with each other).

To be fair, you're not the only person who thinks that, but luckily the new Batman Loves Superman movie will disprove this idea once and for all.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: The Adventurer on 25 November, 2015, 09:04:49 PM
Quote from: radiator on 25 November, 2015, 08:11:26 PM
It's not really doing anything for me and just seems to back up certain prejudices I have against superhero media (ie that a lot of superhero 'stories' are really just contrived excuses for them to have extended fights with each other).

Yes, super-hero stories are power fantasy action stories, with their roots in 30s pulp serials. This isn't really a revelation.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 25 November, 2015, 09:08:18 PM
Nothing wrong with a bit of fisty cuffs. Problems arise when stories become contrived by trying to hard to cover these roots.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 14 December, 2015, 08:03:11 PM
International trailer #1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0uFMnfO3i4)
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Goaty on 14 December, 2015, 08:25:07 PM
Looks good, still better than Batman V Superman messy
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Goaty on 19 December, 2015, 06:33:56 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/hZOLRhN.png)
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: auxlen on 19 December, 2015, 06:38:52 PM
I'm not sure how they can get it all into one film.

I loved the audio adaptation: http://www.graphicaudiointernational.net/marvel-civil-war.html
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: TordelBack on 19 December, 2015, 07:04:23 PM
Rhodes is now "War Hammer"?  Do I hear the sound of a thousand hungry lawyers sharpening their pencils...?
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Professor Bear on 19 December, 2015, 09:39:58 PM
"You snooze, you lose" seems to be a sound copyright squatting argument in the US - note Billy Batson's alter-ego is called Shazam now.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Goaty on 08 February, 2016, 08:50:48 AM
yeah! Looks great!

Superbowl trailer;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L7iH3foZU0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L7iH3foZU0)
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Goaty on 10 March, 2016, 05:07:19 PM
New TRAILER!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2P4DkHxXNQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2P4DkHxXNQ)
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: DaveGYNWA on 10 March, 2016, 06:23:32 PM
Haha - fuck yeah!!
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: radiator on 10 March, 2016, 06:41:12 PM
I can't quite put my finger on it, but something looks a little off about [spoiler]Spidey[/spoiler] there - maybe the colours?

Getting flashbacks to: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-VpXCvxVmS20/VP8XSE1KXqI/AAAAAAAAE38/ctf5cMZM8nc/s1600/High%2BNoon%2BSpidey.jpeg

I'm sure it'll look great in the finished film though.

Also, I would put down money that [spoiler]Rhodey[/spoiler] is not going to die - and all these trailer bits are making it look like that are misdirection, and that someone else will die instead, similar to what they did with Hawkeye and Quicksilver in AoU. My money's on [spoiler]Scott Lang/Ant-Man[/spoiler]* and/or [spoiler]Bucky (who will die in a noble sacrifice taking down the real villain of the movie)[/spoiler], maybe even [spoiler]Cap himself (and Falcon/Anthony Mackie will take the mantle)[/spoiler].

*[spoiler]I have a hunch that the announcement of the Ant-Man sequel is either a fakeout, and it will never materialise, or that it will be made, but will actually be a prequel set in the 60s and feature Hank and Janet(?) Pym.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Goaty on 10 March, 2016, 06:53:39 PM
Ant-Man on freakin' Hawkeye's arrow!
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Link Prime on 10 March, 2016, 08:07:09 PM
Couldn't help grinning at that final reveal.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 10 March, 2016, 08:10:43 PM
(https://41.media.tumblr.com/e41847a499051206d75c009e98c2767d/tumblr_o3u6kdZ9Ay1rnbxwxo1_540.jpg)

Looks like Moebius spidey :D
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 March, 2016, 08:51:41 PM
Quote from: radiator on 10 March, 2016, 06:41:12 PM
*[spoiler]I have a hunch that the announcement of the Ant-Man sequel is either a fakeout, and it will never materialise, or that it will be made, but will actually be a prequel set in the 60s and feature Hank and Janet(?) Pym.[/spoiler]


That's crazy talk. They're more likely to kill-of someone who's all ready had a good spin and far more time investment. Ant-Man has too much financial success and off-beat possibility to be snuffed so soon.

Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Colin YNWA on 10 March, 2016, 09:08:50 PM
Quote from: radiator on 10 March, 2016, 06:41:12 PM
I can't quite put my finger on it, but something looks a little off about [spoiler]Spidey[/spoiler] there - maybe the colours?

Yep completely agree with that. Looks very wonky somehow. I do think it might be the colours, little to vivid?
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 March, 2016, 09:13:41 PM
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 10 March, 2016, 09:08:50 PM
Quote from: radiator on 10 March, 2016, 06:41:12 PM
I can't quite put my finger on it, but something looks a little off about [spoiler]Spidey[/spoiler] there - maybe the colours?

Yep completely agree with that. Looks very wonky somehow. I do think it might be the colours, little to vivid?

The low-res youtube video is mushing up the detail of the suit and flattening the colour but the suit and colours look fine in hi-res. It's the best lookin' Spidey suit in tems of its simplicity. The webbing sits perfectly compared to all previous versions and is the most comic looking.



(http://s3.birthmoviesdeath.com/articles/spideyhiresfull.jpg)
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Goaty on 10 March, 2016, 09:30:50 PM
damn! Thanks Joe for HQ image, I agree that looks best Spidey suit. Would love to know how they explains to do that eyes (that the best of all Spidey suits!)
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: I, Cosh on 11 March, 2016, 01:07:51 AM
Is there a shitter top flight superhero than Spider-Man?

NB I can't fucking believe iPad autocorrect just added that pointless hyphen.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: M.I.K. on 11 March, 2016, 01:58:13 AM
The pointless hyphen is part of his name. It's on all the comics and everything.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: JamesC on 11 March, 2016, 06:37:12 AM
Shitter in what way? Spidey's a great character IMHO.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 11 March, 2016, 07:01:03 AM
Quote from: The Cosh on 11 March, 2016, 01:07:51 AM
Is there a shitter top flight superhero than Spider-Man?

NB I can't fucking believe iPad autocorrect just added that pointless hyphen.
Would you like some vinegar with that salt?
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: I, Cosh on 11 March, 2016, 08:20:53 AM
Quote from: JamesC on 11 March, 2016, 06:37:12 AM
Shitter in what way? Spidey's a great character IMHO.
Whining little gimp who still lives with his mum. Not very super.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Satanist on 11 March, 2016, 08:32:02 AM
Spidey is a character the young reader can relate to, a teenage emo who shoots his muck at every chance he gets.

Batman on the other hand really should have a word with himself. You're a grown man FFS!
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: I, Cosh on 11 March, 2016, 08:32:15 AM
Quote from: M.I.K. on 11 March, 2016, 01:58:13 AM
The pointless hyphen is part of his name. It's on all the comics and everything.
Just seems like a waste of time. Or a ridiculous Williamsburg hipster affectation that's only there so he can make a big show of getting annoyed at the poor lady who sews it onto his suit wrong. I mean, Bat-Man and Wonderwo-Man manage perfectly well without.

Oh. I've just realised that X-Man has one. Maybe it's just an odd East Coast thing. Method-Man.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: I, Cosh on 11 March, 2016, 08:55:00 AM
Quote from: Satanist on 11 March, 2016, 08:32:02 AM
Spidey is a character the young reader can relate to, a teenage emo who shoots his muck at every chance he gets.
:smiley: Maybe that's the problem. I'm perfectly capable of relating to myself and my insecurities on my own. I'd rather read about somebody interesting.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: TordelBack on 11 March, 2016, 09:34:14 AM
That trailer was snoozeworthy until Spidey showed up, which was very 'yay!'. And I'm a fan of the Cap and Avengers movies. It looks as dull as Civil War was in the comics.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Proudhuff on 11 March, 2016, 10:02:39 AM
tough crowd!
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Goaty on 11 March, 2016, 10:12:25 AM
I did this image last night :D

(http://i.imgur.com/5E1VPhm.jpg)
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: TordelBack on 11 March, 2016, 11:00:31 AM
Quote from: Proudhuff on 11 March, 2016, 10:02:39 AM
tough crowd!

Ach, it all looks very angsty and serious, which isn't my thing with superheroes (I gravitate towards the GotG and Ant-Man end of the spectrum). Until Spidey showed up and then it looked like fun.

Also, I like movie-Tony and movie-Steve, and don't much enjoy seeing them at quite such odds, especially as Tony has spent 5 movies working through his 'does not play well with others' issues.  It is however a marvel (ahem) that we live in age where such a movie can even be attempted, never mind be wildly anticipated and almost certainly well-made.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Professor Bear on 11 March, 2016, 12:01:51 PM
To be fair, we also shat all over that other film about a patriotic blue superhero fighting a billionaire in a robot suit.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: I, Cosh on 11 March, 2016, 12:30:40 PM
I decided to watch the trailer before making any more half-baked assertions. Looks generically watchable and it's good to see Spiderman continuing the noble 21st Century tradition of really silly voices in superhero films.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 11 March, 2016, 12:47:56 PM
Have they changed Captain America's suit again?  It looked almost black.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: JamesC on 11 March, 2016, 12:54:49 PM
I can almost guarantee that I'll go to see this film at the cinema and I'll enjoy it.
It's just a question of how much.

And I think Spidey looks great.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: TordelBack on 11 March, 2016, 01:00:12 PM
Quote from: JamesC on 11 March, 2016, 12:54:49 PM
I can almost guarantee that I'll go to see this film at the cinema and I'll enjoy it.
It's just a question of how much.

Well put!
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Goaty on 11 March, 2016, 01:17:43 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/I62P1b7.jpg)
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 11 March, 2016, 01:19:23 PM
Quote from: Ollamh Iompróidh on 11 March, 2016, 12:01:51 PM
To be fair, we also shat all over that other film about a patriotic blue superhero fighting a billionaire in a robot suit.

I am not feeling well, I have a cold, I slept for about two hours, and I have a pounding headache.

Excuses placed: what film are you talking about? I know I'll kick myself when you tell me
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Goaty on 11 March, 2016, 01:20:36 PM
Quote from: The Enigmatic Dr X on 11 March, 2016, 01:19:23 PM
I know I'll kick myself when you tell me

A little DC film...
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 11 March, 2016, 01:32:38 PM
Quote from: The Cosh on 11 March, 2016, 12:30:40 PM
I decided to watch the trailer before making any more half-baked assertions. Looks generically watchable and it's good to see Spiderman continuing the noble 21st Century tradition of really silly voices in superhero films.
He sounds like a 16 year old. As he should do.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Grugz on 12 March, 2016, 02:53:31 PM
Quote from: The Cosh on 11 March, 2016, 08:20:53 AM
Quote from: JamesC on 11 March, 2016, 06:37:12 AM
Shitter in what way? Spidey's a great character IMHO.
Whining little gimp who still lives with his aunt. Not very super.

fixed that for you grumpy! ;)
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Professor Bear on 12 March, 2016, 04:17:26 PM
Spidey being so flawed is what makes him interesting.  Few superheroes are selfish, bullying social climbers, but this is the heart of Spidey's character to the point that everything he does is motivated by trying not to be the guy who looks the other way and only thinks of himself because that's when Uncle Bens start getting knocked off.  It's touched upon less in modern times because the Overton Window has made such things unfashionable to speak about, but Spidey's stories for decades also revolved around his poverty, so there was an element of commentary on America's underclass, too.

Having said all that, I doubt very much if there will be anything made of the contrast between shit-poor Spider-Kid and the middle-aged superhero billionaires of the MCU.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Goaty on 12 March, 2016, 07:41:08 PM
Ha Captain America Winter Soldier just on Netflix now :)
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Leigh S on 12 March, 2016, 11:43:15 PM
I love the 60s Spidey comics - probably the only Super Hero stuff I have enjoyed - precisely because his super heroics are inextricaably linked with his teenage problems - indeed, cut out the super villains and I'd still fiind the stories enjoyable just for the character stuff.  Parkers dilemmas add so much, as he tries to juggle his responsibilities to his family with school, growing up, social alienation and misunderstandings with this extra burden.  They are beautiful comics.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Goaty on 13 April, 2016, 08:06:18 PM
Wooh!  :o

Empire just rated it 5 stars! Their quote; "Captain America: Civil War is the best Marvel Studios movie yet. There, we said it."
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 13 April, 2016, 08:13:56 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 13 April, 2016, 08:06:18 PM
Empire just rated it 5 stars! Their quote; "Captain America: Civil War is the best Marvel Studios movie yet. There, we said it."

To be fair, Empire have been whoring out their five star ratings for so long, I don't even read their reviews any more.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 13 April, 2016, 08:20:47 PM
"Captain America: Civil War is the best Marvel Studios movie yet. There, we said it."

But we reserve the right to dramatically update this ratings for the shiny disc release, if it turns out we got a bit over-excited and fucked this one up. There, we, er, didn't say it.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: I, Cosh on 13 April, 2016, 10:41:27 PM
Different reviewers working for the same publication can have dramatically different opinions about the same thing. Especially if public opinion dictates.

No intention of watching this as I've not seen any of the other Captain America films and it just seems to be there to set up a sequel!
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Radbacker on 30 April, 2016, 11:23:58 AM
just back from this, near full cinema and seemed to enjoy it quite a bit more than the other Vs movie so far this year.  But they really should've called this Avengers 3 or something as its definitely a team movie.
I enjoyed it quite a bit but cant help feeling something is just a tad off about it, don't know what but just didn't quite enjoy it overall as much as I enjoyed individual bits if that makes sense.  I like the change from hero's having to register to hero's being under control of the UN as the conflict point works much better in the Marvel Movie universe than the original concept would have.
Antman was great again and the not so well kept secret involving him was great fun [spoiler]though I don't understand physics why are Giant people always so slow moving surely when giant you'd move quicker because of your extra size, limb length, strength etc???[/spoiler].  Spidey was great but really seemed  jammed into the movie, his inclusion was all like [spoiler]Ironman - mmm I know a guy in queens who can help off he goes visits him and his Aunt and now Spidey is a full fledged New Avenger[/spoiler] not very organic but the kid who plays him is great it's good to have an actual teen Parker and Spidey and the motor mouth is 100% intact and not as snarky or nasty Garfields Spidey.  Other newbie Blackpanther has a pretty spectacular looking suit and enough to do to give you an idea what he's about, nice fighting style too. Thumbs up for Vision in a cardigan, it was great. 
Crossbones was a nice continuation of the last movie and suitably beefed up challenge for the Cap at the start.  The actual big bad guy in this one is great, very different to anything Marvel have offered up so far [spoiler]no taking over the world or killing everyone for this guy he has other idea's and by the endng seems he succeeded a bit too[/spoiler] and like Antman the end didn't resort to the whole big object in the sky thing Marvel like to do, in fact it was a rather low key affair but still just as thrilling as any end of the world scenario thrown up in countless other Super Hero movies.
Sure there's lots more I've missed it's quite a dense movie lots of characters and story happening.  You'll notice I didn't mention Captain America much in this well it's because it's not just his movie though he is great in it, Stark is great too and it's actually a bit sad to see it all descend into fisticuffs by the end between them as for who's right and who you need to go for [spoiler]I think they're actually both being dicks about it all but like the comic you gotta side with Cap he's right[/spoiler]  .
I liked it a lot but not quite Marvels greatest for me 4 out of 5 :) (I'd go GOTG and ANTman as Marvels two 5 out of 5 movies for me).

CU Radbacker
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Mardroid on 01 May, 2016, 12:53:54 AM
Apologies for posting this in two threads, but I forgot about this thread when I posted in the Last Movie Watched thread.

Very good.

[spoiler]I don't think Aunt May is supposed to look like that, but it was amusing that they made gag out of that.

I liked the twist at the end concerning the showdown with the big bad.

I think it would be more likely that the comic version of Spider-Man would be on Captain America's side, but considering the age of his version, the way Stark recruited him and that exchange between him and Cap, his choice is believable in this case. Ironically this version of Spider-man seems closest to the comics version in some ways. Particularly his chatty nature during combat, which is made a joke of.[/spoiler]

All characters had there bit in the limelight, even those with rather small roles [spoiler]like Pym, ha ha[/spoiler], which made this feel  closer to an Avengers Film rather than a Captain America movie in some ways... yet it does fit.

By the way, I find it interesting that both Superhero films I recently watched are concerned with the [spoiler]collateral damage caused by superbeing conflicts.[/spoiler] I think this one does it better, much as I like Batman Vs Superman.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: matty_ae on 02 May, 2016, 08:20:58 AM
AIRPORT
AIRPORT
AIRPORT

That Airport scene was a riot, the only thing that could have made it funnier would be cutting it into AIRPLANE with Leslie Neilsen trying to land a plane.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 04 May, 2016, 08:42:26 AM
Watched it on Monday in a packed cinema.
I really enjoyed it with the small exception that it went on far too long.
Spidey is well portrayed and the kinda put to one side.
I put it in the top 3 Marvel movies so far.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Buttonman on 04 May, 2016, 04:51:27 PM
Yeah, pretty good - 7/10 territory for me.

The usual array of chases and clang and bash fights but good fun.

Getting a bit top heavy with characters with more being less in my view. Ant and Spider men were comic relief more than being integral to the plot but the airport fight was the highlight mainly due to them.

I wasn't convinced by the schism between Cap and Tony and it did seem that more chat less bash could have resolved the whole problem.

I hope all the Winter Soldier stuff is over as I am starting to find it all a bit tiresome and Bucky is a dull character.

The infinity war should be more epic in scale but I hope that doesn't mean they shoehorn in even more characters - FF anyone?

Overall too long and thin on plot but well made and an enjoyable distraction.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: von Boom on 08 May, 2016, 11:26:48 AM
A very good film, but what made it for me was the inclusion of Spider-Man (my favourite Marvel character). They portrayed Spidey the way I remember him best and it has made me very excited to see his film next year.

I'll agree with what has been said already about this being an Avengers film and wot.

Daniel Brühl was brilliant!
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: radiator on 08 May, 2016, 10:20:15 PM
Well, I really enjoyed that.

I would say that it was bloated, had too many characters and the story was silly, wildly overcomplicated and relied far too much on one ridiculous string of coincidences after another.... but it's a Marvel/Avengers movie, so that all goes without saying. What's important is that I'm willing to overlook these issues because of just how damn fun the whole thing is.

I'd agree with Radbacker that overall it somehow ultimately feels slightly less than the sum of its parts, but some of those individual parts are just fantastic. Every action scene is amazing, and the airport scene is genuinely jawdropping in its scope and execution. I may go and see the movie a second time purely to see that scene again.

The new Spider-man is great - the way he moves, the costume, the casting... Nailed it. Normally I cringe when, in previous movies, Spider-man fans bemoan that he doesn't talk enough or make enough wisecracks because I can't imagine it not being cheesy and annoying.... but if it's done this well I fully get what they mean. Can't wait for the new solo outing (and I say that as someone who has had zero interest in seeing any of the Spidey-films since the third Raimi one).

Black Panther - in all honesty - much like Spiderman felt a little shoe-horned in, but was likewise amazing in execution. Great actor, great suit - the works.


But it's Ant-Man who unexpectedly steals the show. For all that people mock the character for being a third-stringer with a goofy name (or at least they did in the run up to his film coming out), his power set just lends itself to some truly incredible and inventive visuals, and it's all done with such a sense of wonder and fun. There's just really nothing else quite like it in any other movie I can think of, and Rudd just exudes dopey charm even when not in the suit. He's a real asset to the MCU, and I can't wait to see what they do with him next.

This is the Avengers sequel we should have had instead of the (imo) lacklustre Age of Ultron, and its fair to say that its reinvigorated my flagging enthusiasm for the Marvel movies as a whole. I'm aware its a long film, but didn't feel like it for me - would have happily watched more of it.

Loved [spoiler]Jim Rash/Dean Pelton[/spoiler]'s cameo [spoiler]Was wondering which Community alum the Russos would sneak in this time![/spoiler]

4/5.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 09 May, 2016, 07:45:44 PM
I enjoyed that especially, along with everyone else, the airport set to.

The tone was just right for a comic book superhero movie; fun being the main order of the day and managed to drop it a notch into more serious territory for the finale.

Only gripe is that I wanted another Captain America movie but this was Cap 2.4, Avengers 2.4 and Iron Man 3.2.

But I can live with that.

And that has to be one of the most ridiculously charismatic,  handsome and gorgeous casts even by Hollywood standards.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 09 May, 2016, 08:14:15 PM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 09 May, 2016, 07:45:44 PM
And that has to be one of the most ridiculously charismatic,  handsome and gorgeous casts even by Hollywood standards.

I recently read someone comment (can't now remember where!) that Chris Evans' Cap is easily the most believably, likably noble hero since Reeves' Superman, and I'm inclined to agree.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Buttonman on 09 May, 2016, 08:41:36 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 09 May, 2016, 08:14:15 PM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 09 May, 2016, 07:45:44 PM
And that has to be one of the most ridiculously charismatic,  handsome and gorgeous casts even by Hollywood standards.

I recently read someone comment (can't now remember where!) that Chris Evans' Cap is easily the most believably, likably noble hero since Reeves' Superman, and I'm inclined to agree.

Cheers

Jim

Foolish Jim forgot Michael Crawford's Condorman!
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 09 May, 2016, 09:11:24 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 09 May, 2016, 08:14:15 PMI recently read someone comment (can't now remember where!) that Chris Evans' Cap is easily the most believably, likably noble hero since Reeves' Superman, and I'm inclined to agree.
I wish we'd got more in the past. I loved the pulpy nature of the first film. Mind you, it was a massive jolt to read the Cap books in the Marvel partwork. They were all eye-poppingly awful. Odd to massively prefer the movie version of a comic...
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 09 May, 2016, 10:17:02 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 09 May, 2016, 08:14:15 PM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 09 May, 2016, 07:45:44 PM
And that has to be one of the most ridiculously charismatic,  handsome and gorgeous casts even by Hollywood standards.

I recently read someone comment (can't now remember where!) that Chris Evans' Cap is easily the most believably, likably noble hero since Reeves' Superman, and I'm inclined to agree.

Cheers

Jim

The only one I can think of that comes close is Elastigirl from The Incredibles.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: radiator on 09 May, 2016, 10:46:30 PM
Yeah. DC really need to poach the casting director that Marvel is using if they hope to stand a chance.

DC seem to be relying on bigger established names (I still think Jared Leto could be a total misfire as the Joker) or slightly bland unknowns like Henry Cavill - Marvel seem to have an uncanny knack for picking just the right actors (and directors for that matter) at just the right stages in their career.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Dandontdare on 10 May, 2016, 08:22:00 AM
I totally agree about marvel's excellent casting choices - Evans has made that role his own, Robert Downey is also an absolutely perfect Tony Stark (charismatic but a bit of a prick), and the new Spider-man is spot on too.

I thought it interesting that so many of the main players were [spoiler]avenging dead families - first Black Panther, then we find out the main villain was too, and finally Iron Man - only Cap had truly altruistic motives beyond personal revenge[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 10 May, 2016, 08:25:52 AM
I'm sorry, but as much as I agree with all this talk, the best cast choice Marvel have done thus far is David Tennant as Killgrave. Bloody fantastic.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Dandontdare on 10 May, 2016, 08:37:20 AM
closely followed by D'Onofrio's Kingpin, the best depiction of that character so far.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: JamesC on 11 May, 2016, 01:13:06 PM
Went to see Civil War last night and absolutely loved it - easily up there with the very best of Marvel's output.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Michael Knight on 13 May, 2016, 01:52:08 PM
Totally agree with you JamesC! Have loved all 3 Captain america solo movies so far! Is it me or have they actually got better as they have gone along?
Have to admit I've still got soft spot for the 1990 Captain America movie. Cheesy to be sure but fun nonetheless. As for the 1970s Captain America movies I actually couldnt believe how bad they were. Made the much maligned 1990 film look like a masterpiece by comparison.  :lol:
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Dudley on 18 May, 2016, 07:19:18 AM
Quote from: radiator on 08 May, 2016, 10:20:15 PM

Loved [spoiler]Jim Rash/Dean Pelton[/spoiler]'s cameo [spoiler]Was wondering which Community alum the Russos would sneak in this time![/spoiler]

4/5.

I just love that he got promoted from [spoiler]Greendale[/spoiler] all the way up to the Ivy League, without changing his character one bit.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 18 May, 2016, 02:43:04 PM
Saw this last week. Enjoyed it immensely - although I think it was a shade too long.

I'd love to see Evans playing the Human Torch and Captain America in the same film. Some humour could be milked out of Johnny Storm forever being mistaken for Cap - but never the other way around.
Title: Re: Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Post by: Goaty on 31 August, 2016, 04:59:14 PM
Finally saw it on iTunes, how awesome was it! Loved it!