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Title: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: Colin YNWA on 02 July, 2020, 04:55:31 PM
Just as they did with Star Wars comics Marvel have now got the rights for comics relating to the Aliens and Predator franchises. I guess this means a couple of things:


Wonder what happens with Dredd vs Alien and Dredd vs. Predator etc etc.

https://bleedingcool.com/comics/marvel-comics-grabs-alien-and-predator-licenses-from-dark-horse/ (https://bleedingcool.com/comics/marvel-comics-grabs-alien-and-predator-licenses-from-dark-horse/)
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: sheridan on 02 July, 2020, 05:00:11 PM
We've never had a Marvel 2000AD production before - maybe that will change in the future...
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: sheridan on 02 July, 2020, 05:02:45 PM
*ha*

I got wondering what crossovers Batman had had with Marvel characters (inspired by the Batman vs Aliens/Predator/Dredd stories in the past) and look what image this article used at the top (https://ifanboy.com/articles/dc-histories-batman-intercompany-crossovers/).
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: broodblik on 02 July, 2020, 05:14:57 PM
So now Aliens/Predator will become part of the Marvel-verse. How boring
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: Michael Knight on 02 July, 2020, 05:22:17 PM
Wow! What happened? Did they simply outbid Dark Horse over rights renewal?
Does this mean that all former AVP stories are now considered non canon like former Dark Horse Star Wars stories?
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: Colin YNWA on 02 July, 2020, 05:23:40 PM
Quote from: Michael Knight on 02 July, 2020, 05:22:17 PM
Wow! What happened? Did they simply outbid Dark Horse over rights renewal?
Does this mean that all former AVP stories are now considered non canon like former Dark Horse Star Wars stories?

Apparently Disney now own Fox, who own Alien  and Predator - that's what I got from the article anyway. So really they've just been waiting for Dark Horse current deal to lapse I guess.
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: Michael Knight on 02 July, 2020, 05:45:31 PM
ah right I didn't know that pal. That probably explains it.
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: karlos on 02 July, 2020, 05:58:03 PM
Just read about this over at CBR, where there's some lovely David Finch promo art:

https://www.cbr.com/marvel-comics-alien-predator-avengers-david-finch-teasers

The various DC crossovers throughout the years were mostly good fun, so here's hoping the inevitable Avengers Vs Alien Vs Predator is on that level.

A little bit of me is sad that Dark Horse have lost the licence, though: they mostly did the franchises right, especially the early minis, which really helped to put DH and, by extension, indie comics, on the map for a lot of people back in the late 80s.

Fond memories of Aliens #1 and Predator #1 coming out.

Sigh. I'm old.
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: SmallBlueThing(Reborn) on 02 July, 2020, 06:25:59 PM
I just feel sorry for Dark Horse: Star Wars, Conan, Aliens, Predator... what next?

Still, at least I suppose this now GUARANTEES a Conan/ Predator face-off- which Dark Horse oddly never did but which Marvel surely wont be able to resist?

SBT
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: Tjm86 on 02 July, 2020, 06:49:34 PM
Quote from: sheridan on 02 July, 2020, 05:00:11 PM
We've never had a Marvel 2000AD production before - maybe that will change in the future...

Judge Dredd vs Punisher?

Ulysses Sweet vs Deadpool?

Lobster Random vs Wolverine?

Robo-Hunter vs Iron Man?
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: SmallBlueThing(Reborn) on 02 July, 2020, 06:59:45 PM
Immortal Hulk vs Zombo?

Spidey in Mega City One?

Sinister Dexter take the hit on Howard The Duck?

SBT
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: broodblik on 02 July, 2020, 07:05:16 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing(Reborn) on 02 July, 2020, 06:59:45 PM
Immortal Hulk vs Zombo?

That I can see will work
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 02 July, 2020, 07:23:57 PM
If, as seems to be the case, Disney are trying to mop up all the existing Fox licenses and get them under the Marvel banner, that would seem to bode ill for BOOM's Buffy and Firefly books. I'll confess to not having read the Buffy stuff, but it's consistently well-reviewed, and the Firefly ongoing is excellent.
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: Professor Bear on 02 July, 2020, 08:03:17 PM
It's a good thing that DH still make Hellboy comics, otherwise they'd be in real trouble right now.
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: IndigoPrime on 02 July, 2020, 09:15:21 PM
Losing Usagi Yojimbo was quite a surprise. (I'm also unconvinced IDW is the right home for that property, but there you go.)
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: Anthony Garnon on 03 July, 2020, 08:45:34 AM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing(Reborn) on 02 July, 2020, 06:25:59 PM
I just feel sorry for Dark Horse: Star Wars, Conan, Aliens, Predator... what next?

Still, at least I suppose this now GUARANTEES a Conan/ Predator face-off- which Dark Horse oddly never did but which Marvel surely wont be able to resist?

SBT

They lost Buffy and Angel too to Disney/Boom!

The current Scott Allie attention isn't going to help Hellboy/BPRD either.
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: Smith on 03 July, 2020, 11:19:42 AM
If I was a betting man,I would say Predator vs Wolverine is happening. Or whoever is on every cover these days.
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: Colin YNWA on 03 July, 2020, 12:38:55 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 02 July, 2020, 09:15:21 PM
Losing Usagi Yojimbo was quite a surprise. (I'm also unconvinced IDW is the right home for that property, but there you go.)

To be fair IDW have done wonders for some stuff they have brought in... well I'm talking about Corto Maltese aren't I really!
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: IndigoPrime on 03 July, 2020, 01:40:12 PM
I find IDW variable. They made a horrible mess of classic-era Transformers, spending the least amount possible on some abhorrent remastering, and making baffling design decisions on the UK material (that ended up getting canned anyway). The one thing they do very well at least is collected volumes. The question with Usagi Yojimbo is what—if anything—they will do in the HC world. My hope would be volumes that would sit nicely alongside the Dark Horse special editions. But they may end up going their own way. (Also: Usagi in colour doesn't entirely sit right with me. I get that it's a new era and all, but I loved Sakai's B+W work.)
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: von Boom on 03 July, 2020, 03:49:08 PM
Pretty soon all comics will be Taco Bell.  ::)
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: Colin YNWA on 03 July, 2020, 05:01:51 PM
Quote from: von Boom on 03 July, 2020, 03:49:08 PM
Pretty soon all comics will be Taco Bell.  ::)

Not pretty soon all comics will be Wolverine vs Taco Bell.
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: karlos on 06 July, 2020, 08:16:25 PM
A cursory glance on eBay shows that people are suddenly paying silly money for some of the early DH Aliens/Predator/Terminator minis.

No idea why the prices have shot up like they have - surely not connected to the recent news?
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: Colin YNWA on 06 July, 2020, 08:25:07 PM
Quote from: karlos on 06 July, 2020, 08:16:25 PM
A cursory glance on eBay shows that people are suddenly paying silly money for some of the early DH Aliens/Predator/Terminator minis.

No idea why the prices have shot up like they have - surely not connected to the recent news?

Never under estimate the strangeness of the speculator market!
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: karlos on 06 July, 2020, 08:32:45 PM
Wise words, Colin!
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: karlos on 21 August, 2020, 09:25:01 AM
https://www.cbr.com/marvel-dark-horse-aliens-omnibus-vol-1-april-2021/
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: The Adventurer on 21 August, 2020, 03:40:36 PM
Guess I should prioritize getting PREDATOR VS JUDGE DREDD VS ALIENS collection before someone realizes 2000 AD is still selling it.
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: Tomwe on 21 August, 2020, 03:55:30 PM
I just listed the four Alien Predator HC books put out by Hachette on eBay (https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/te08/m.html?item=114358415695&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562) if anyone is interested. 99p starts.
(mods feel free to delete if this kind of self promotion isn't allowed)
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: sheridan on 21 August, 2020, 04:42:03 PM
Quote from: Tomwe on 21 August, 2020, 03:55:30 PM
I just listed the four Alien Predator HC books put out by Hachette on eBay (https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/te08/m.html?item=114358415695&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562) if anyone is interested. 99p starts.
(mods feel free to delete if this kind of self promotion isn't allowed)

I don't know what the mods think of links like this on this thread, but there's certainly a buying and selling section on the forum that you can also post it to.
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: Proudhuff on 22 August, 2020, 02:32:40 PM
(https://mlpnk72yciwc.i.optimole.com/cqhiHLc.WqA8~2eefa/w:588/h:896/q:75/https://bleedingcool.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Predator-1.jpg)

That could be a good story....
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: karlos on 07 November, 2020, 07:52:51 PM
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2020/11/06/marvel-predator-omnibus-1-coming-in-august-of-2021/

Predator the Original Years omnibus vol 1  - just announced.
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: karlos on 08 December, 2020, 02:22:49 PM
https://www.cbr.com/marvel-comics-alien-series-early-2021/

And so it begins.

Larocca on art - gotta be worth a look.
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: Colin YNWA on 08 December, 2020, 02:53:30 PM
Funnily enough I'm going to be reading a load of the Dark Horse stuff I got on sale digitall, later on this month. I'm really looking forward to seeing what that's like. As I recall the early stuff was a bit hit and miss and I have cherry picked what I bought based on creators involved.

So it will be interesting to see how I think the Aliens world works in comics and that may well determine whether I decide to give this a go as I'm not really familar with either creators work.
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: karlos on 08 December, 2020, 07:25:51 PM
Cherry picking is most certainly the way to go, Colin - Dark Horse put out a lot of Aliens comics.

Personally,  I always loved the first two runs and the first AvP mini, but there's plenty more out there that is well worth a read.
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: Colin YNWA on 08 December, 2020, 08:15:41 PM
Any recommendations? I've picked up

First four (I think it is) stories - up to Female War (which used to be called Earth War?)
Stuff by Wagner, Milligan, Gibbons and Mignola, Edginton, something call Apocolayse (not sure why I went for that one specifically?) - Mark Schulz probably, Stronghold - again not sure why exactly. Some stuff with Kelley Jones art (which I think I might of had back in the day), Some Dabnett stuff with art by Moritat (very much looking forward to that).

Finally I have the Brian Wood stuff but I'm not reading that this time out - that's somewhere down the line.

Anything to be recommended apart from that?
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: karlos on 09 December, 2020, 12:30:55 PM
Your list looks spot on to me  Colin!

The only additions off the top of my head would be the Colonial Marines 12 parter, even though it's a bit wobbly in parts, and the 2 Mondo stories, which are just daft fun.
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: repoman on 09 December, 2020, 01:45:34 PM
There was an interesting compilation of Aliens stories that had a weird one in there where Ripley goes back to Earth and it turns out the space jockey pilot people are trying to terraform it.

I was a big fan of the Dark Horse stuff but after a while it got very samey.  Mad professor/general/whatever thinks he can use the aliens for science/war/whatever.  Anything that shined new light on how the aliens behave was interesting though.

Newt's Tale was a fantastic retelling of Aliens from her perspective.
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: karlos on 09 December, 2020, 07:12:03 PM
I never read Newt's Tale as I was super pissed off with Alien 3!

That's true about the whole "mad doctor/scientist/whatever wanting to control aliens" thing  - used a lot during the DH run - [spoiler]even as early as book 2[/spoiler].

As for Predator  - I re-read the first mini DH did and it's still very solid stuff...and wow, Predator 2 REALLY did rip it off!
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: Colin YNWA on 13 December, 2020, 05:29:54 PM
I've just picked up some extras in a new Dark Horse Aliens sale - Got the Colonial Marines series you mentioned for 79p! Was listed as a single issue in error. Sam Keith book I must have missed first time and a Gabriel Hardmann book. Alien Predator Omnibus 1 (for first series I remember liking) A couple of screenplay books (Dan O'Bannon original and Aliens 3 William Gibson).

Whole lot for £25 - so happy with that.
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: Colin YNWA on 26 December, 2020, 02:18:50 PM
Started reading these and to be honest I didn't enjoy the first trilogy as much as I remember (so that's Outbreak, Nightmare Asylum and Female War) and had to slog my way through them.

Apocoloypse by Mark Schultz was okay and looked great. Frenzy by our own John W was pretty good, though would really of benefited from a better artist.

So far this has all made for some choppy reading. Still some big name creators to come so remain optimistic...
Title: Re: Marvel obtain rights to Aliens and Predator comics off Dark Horse
Post by: karlos on 26 December, 2020, 03:43:23 PM
Exactly, Colin - like the Predator and (to a lesser extent, Terminator) stories - there were so many of them the quality really does vary wildly.