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Title: Favourite CLASSIC art droid Round 2 - Ron Smith or Jesus Redondo
Post by: Colin YNWA on 14 January, 2021, 06:44:49 AM
Like King Cobra do ya... yeah, yeah... love the art huh... well that's just fine and dandy. Oh what's that you think Kitty Pryde Agent of SHIELD is like the best everrrrr huh. You think that's cool... fine, fine. I mean I hear ya BUT WE DON'T CARE - it's Tharg we're talking about here boy THARG anything else is going to get you into trouble man. BIG trouble. Now get back to Barney and vote before I take you issues of Star Trek and Bunty and stick them somewhere that will make your eyes water more than this decision...

Alas we have to pick our favourite and to do so just pop the name of the art droid you'd most like to go through to the Quarter Finals, but please add anything else you'd like to say as well.

Ron Smith - more info (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=droid&page=profiles&choice=RSMITH)

OR

Jesus Redondo - more info (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=droid&page=profiles&choice=JESUS)

This one will close and be counted on the morning of Sunday 17th January

What the hell is all this? Current state of play Find out more about the Art Droid Tourneys and Round 2 (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=47242.0)

Who made the 32 in both tourneys?

Entrants in the Current Art Droids Tourney  (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=47044.msg1042917#msg1042917)

Entrants in the Classic Art Droids Tourney (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=47044.msg1042893#msg1042893)

Rules for what they are worth (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=47242.msg1049293#msg1049293)

Anything else just ask and I'll make something up.
Title: Re: Favourite CLASSIC art droid Round 2 - Ron Smith or Jesus Redondo
Post by: broodblik on 14 January, 2021, 06:59:30 AM
Ron Smith
Title: Re: Favourite CLASSIC art droid Round 2 - Ron Smith or Jesus Redondo
Post by: ming on 14 January, 2021, 08:13:13 AM
A tricky one but on balance I'll have to go for the Ronster - just too much amazing art to ignore; UnAmerican Grafitti, the Hotdog Run and Shanty Town being some personal favourites - there are just so many great Dredd stories under his belt though.  Redondo did some incredible work for the Prog and his classic Time Twisters alone made this a very difficult choice....  Bah!
Title: Re: Favourite CLASSIC art droid Round 2 - Ron Smith or Jesus Redondo
Post by: Magnetica on 14 January, 2021, 08:31:08 AM
Ron Smith. And it's not even close. I always loved Ron's Dredd - it's one of the most iconic depictions of Dredd and especially the citizens of Mega City One.
Title: Re: Favourite CLASSIC art droid Round 2 - Ron Smith or Jesus Redondo
Post by: abelardsnazz on 14 January, 2021, 08:55:42 AM
Ron Smith.
Title: Re: Favourite CLASSIC art droid Round 2 - Ron Smith or Jesus Redondo
Post by: BPP on 14 January, 2021, 09:37:26 AM
Weird one this because I think I prefer redondo's linework and overall style but Ron wins for the sheer volume of iconic villains and citizens he conjured as well as his talent for splash page detail and world-building. The page-timer anecdote will always floor me because there's so much on each page.
Title: Re: Favourite CLASSIC art droid Round 2 - Ron Smith or Jesus Redondo
Post by: AlexF on 14 January, 2021, 09:45:06 AM
Could Ron Smith have drawn Wolfie Smith? Could he?

I'm voting Jesus Redondo, in large part for his incredible melting Amtrak.
Title: Re: Favourite CLASSIC art droid Round 2 - Ron Smith or Jesus Redondo
Post by: Tomwe on 14 January, 2021, 09:54:04 AM
Ron Smith
Title: Re: Favourite CLASSIC art droid Round 2 - Ron Smith or Jesus Redondo
Post by: rogue69 on 14 January, 2021, 10:00:35 AM
Ron Smith
Title: Re: Favourite CLASSIC art droid Round 2 - Ron Smith or Jesus Redondo
Post by: Colin YNWA on 14 January, 2021, 10:08:11 AM
Quote from: BPP on 14 January, 2021, 09:37:26 AM
The page-timer anecdote will always floor me because there's so much on each page.

This is one of the great 2000ad stories. Its incredible - that and he was so good he went straight to ink pretty much.
Title: Re: Favourite CLASSIC art droid Round 2 - Ron Smith or Jesus Redondo
Post by: broodblik on 14 January, 2021, 10:09:33 AM
Quote from: AlexF on 14 January, 2021, 09:45:06 AM
Could Ron Smith have drawn Wolfie Smith? Could he?

Talking about Wolfie Smith has this ever been collected ? This is one of those thrills which heard off but I haven't read it at all. I did not even know that Redondo was the art droid on it
Title: Re: Favourite CLASSIC art droid Round 2 - Ron Smith or Jesus Redondo
Post by: Colin YNWA on 14 January, 2021, 10:19:07 AM
Quote from: broodblik on 14 January, 2021, 10:09:33 AM
Quote from: AlexF on 14 January, 2021, 09:45:06 AM
Could Ron Smith have drawn Wolfie Smith? Could he?

Talking about Wolfie Smith has this ever been collected ? This is one of those thrills which heard off but I haven't read it at all. I did not even know that Redondo was the art droid on it

Barney has it not having been. Which is curious. I know its frowned upon but i quite like it and particularly the last story. I've never read the stuff from Tornado though. Redondo did the art for only that last one. Vanyo and Ian Gibson doing the others.

http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=thrill&page=profiles&Comic=2000AD&choice=WOLFIE (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=thrill&page=profiles&Comic=2000AD&choice=WOLFIE)
Title: Re: Favourite CLASSIC art droid Round 2 - Ron Smith or Jesus Redondo
Post by: The Mind of Wolfie Smith on 14 January, 2021, 10:58:33 AM
ron smith has been my favourite, most definitive dredd artists since my infant days (when, let's face it, only the pictures mattered).

but redondo is a crazed deity of ever emotional sequential art draughtsmanship. and he gets my vote.

colin, this is a cruel and addictive enterprise ...
Title: Re: Favourite CLASSIC art droid Round 2 - Ron Smith or Jesus Redondo
Post by: Link Prime on 14 January, 2021, 11:10:20 AM
Gotta be Ron Smith.
Title: Re: Favourite CLASSIC art droid Round 2 - Ron Smith or Jesus Redondo
Post by: Huey2 on 14 January, 2021, 11:31:29 AM
Ron Smith - a very underrated artist who never seems to get the credit he deserves for doing so much of the heavy lifting on Dredd during the first 10 years.
Post prog 500, the way he was shifted onto the poorer strips was a criminal waste of his talents.

His art on stories like Black Plague, Blood of Satanus and Graveyard Shift was phenomenal.
Smith was also one of the best artists at managing the shift from the 'straight' action to the 'comedic' elements of Dredd - sometimes within the same page.
And there also seemed to be nothing he couldn't draw. His work on the Daily Star Dredds was effortless in squeezing a story onto a single page.
Title: Re: Favourite CLASSIC art droid Round 2 - Ron Smith or Jesus Redondo
Post by: SmallBlueThing(Reborn) on 14 January, 2021, 11:39:52 AM
Ron Smith. Gawd bless 'im.

SBT
Title: Re: Favourite CLASSIC art droid Round 2 - Ron Smith or Jesus Redondo
Post by: paddykafka on 14 January, 2021, 12:35:37 PM
Another close one. Much and all as I loved Redondo's work - especially on Return to Armageddon - I'm gonna vote Ron Smith for his work on Dredd.
Title: Re: Favourite CLASSIC art droid Round 2 - Ron Smith or Jesus Redondo
Post by: Sean SD on 14 January, 2021, 12:48:54 PM
Ron Smith
Title: Re: Favourite CLASSIC art droid Round 2 - Ron Smith or Jesus Redondo
Post by: IndigoPrime on 14 January, 2021, 02:02:22 PM
Smith for his Dredd people (but not the buildings); sad that his final years with the Prog were saddled with such middling scripts. Redondo was frequently great, however, not least in the emotional impact of his work.
Title: Re: Favourite CLASSIC art droid Round 2 - Ron Smith or Jesus Redondo
Post by: Rogue Judge on 14 January, 2021, 03:13:08 PM
Ron Smith. His art dominates those early Case Files, and made the Daily Star strips consistently great.
Title: Re: Favourite CLASSIC art droid Round 2 - Ron Smith or Jesus Redondo
Post by: Funt Solo on 14 January, 2021, 03:23:46 PM
Jesus Redondo
Title: Re: Favourite CLASSIC art droid Round 2 - Ron Smith or Jesus Redondo
Post by: Andrew_J on 14 January, 2021, 03:30:57 PM
Ron Smith for defining so much of what I love about MC-1. Also the use of the legendary alarm clock.
Title: Re: Favourite CLASSIC art droid Round 2 - Ron Smith or Jesus Redondo
Post by: Bolt-01 on 14 January, 2021, 04:26:51 PM
It has to be Ron Smith.

Title: Re: Favourite CLASSIC art droid Round 2 - Ron Smith or Jesus Redondo
Post by: DrJomster on 14 January, 2021, 09:37:08 PM
Ron Smith's crazy world of Dredd was iconic. Ron for me!
Title: Re: Favourite CLASSIC art droid Round 2 - Ron Smith or Jesus Redondo
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 15 January, 2021, 06:27:11 PM
Ron Smith
Title: Re: Favourite CLASSIC art droid Round 2 - Ron Smith or Jesus Redondo
Post by: Colin YNWA on 16 January, 2021, 07:26:32 AM
This one seems to be going one way but there's quite rightly plenty of love for both. So if you fancy dropping a vote in to show your support for one or another please do so today and I'll count up in the morning.
Title: Re: Favourite CLASSIC art droid Round 2 - Ron Smith or Jesus Redondo
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 16 January, 2021, 06:15:02 PM
With no disrespect to the great Jesus Redondo, Ron Smith wins this for me without a doubt.  Nobody will ever draw a zitty, ugly Mega City 1 juvenile delinquent like he did.
Title: Re: Favourite CLASSIC art droid Round 2 - Ron Smith or Jesus Redondo
Post by: Colin YNWA on 17 January, 2021, 07:19:39 AM
VOTING CLOSED

Well the one thing I'll say is this is the vote I'm probably most glad didn't got to a tie as I personally don't think I'd be able to decide between these two favs of mine. As it is the final result was pretty clear and

Ron Smith

Is through to the Quarter Finals.
Title: Re: Favourite CLASSIC art droid Round 2 - Ron Smith or Jesus Redondo
Post by: broodblik on 17 January, 2021, 07:46:45 AM
Ron Smith is certainly one off the artist helping establish Dredd as a main stream character with his detailed lines:

(https://64.media.tumblr.com/412c3508fc60f99df3dc4130d476bb73/tumblr_opwrju2R2p1r7hjkqo1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Favourite CLASSIC art droid Round 2 - Ron Smith or Jesus Redondo
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 17 January, 2021, 10:58:06 AM
That's a lovely piece of work. Pure, distilled Dredd.