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Title: FINAL!!! Favourite CURRENT art droid D’Israeli or Colin MacNeil
Post by: Colin YNWA on 10 February, 2021, 06:27:55 AM
Well what titanic struggles we've seen to witness these two make the final. D'Israeli pulled off the shock of not only this, but any other tourney I've run by getting more votes than Henry Flint. Along the way he also polled over John Higgins, Mark Harrison (who almost got the art Droid of 2020 poll!) and Simon Fraser. It's been no easier for Colin MacNeil who has been given favourite ahead of Neil Googe, Brendan McCarthy, Cliff Robinson and Simon Davis.

Wow is that testament to the talent we have working for Tharg at the moment!

For the title FAVOURITE CURRENT ART DROID just pop the name of the art droid you'd most like to grab bronze. It really helps if you use BOLD tags or otherwise make your vote clear.

D'Israeli - more info (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=droid&page=profiles&choice=disraeli)

OR

Colin MacNeil - more info (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=droid&page=profiles&choice=colinm)

I'll close and count on the morning of Saturday 19th February

What the hell is all this? Find out more about the Art Droid Tourneys and Quarter Finals[/s] semi finals (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=47294.0) - I've not updated this - cos we know what we're doing right. There's a  tiny bit more about the Semi's here (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=47318.0) but it's mainly just a post about what's coming after...

Who made the 32 in both tourneys?

Entrants in the Current Art Droids Tourney  (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=47044.msg1042917#msg1042917)

Entrants in the Classic Art Droids Tourney (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=47044.msg1042893#msg1042893)

Rules for what they are worth (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=47294.msg1050982#msg1050982) again not updated as we're getting good at this now aren't we.

Anything else just ask and I'll make something up.
Title: Re: FINAL!!! Favourite CURRENT art droid D’Israeli or Colin MacNeil
Post by: Sean SD on 10 February, 2021, 06:45:06 AM
Colin MacNeil
Title: Re: FINAL!!! Favourite CURRENT art droid D’Israeli or Colin MacNeil
Post by: Trooper McFad on 10 February, 2021, 06:57:11 AM
MacNeil for me
Title: Re: FINAL!!! Favourite CURRENT art droid D’Israeli or Colin MacNeil
Post by: broodblik on 10 February, 2021, 07:54:09 AM
This is an interesting one we are looking at two artist which over the years has used different styles to express themselves.

Title: Re: FINAL!!! Favourite CURRENT art droid D’Israeli or Colin MacNeil
Post by: broodblik on 10 February, 2021, 07:55:46 AM
Colin MacNeil:

(https://cafans.b-cdn.net/images/Category_85288/subcat_126491/Qe38Y9Ge_2102151043361.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJQ2AWlW4AEjm2S.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CO7_L-NWIAAR20A?format=jpg&name=large)

(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/de/d3/08/ded308984958221e5852996ffb119774.jpg)
Title: Re: FINAL!!! Favourite CURRENT art droid D’Israeli or Colin MacNeil
Post by: broodblik on 10 February, 2021, 07:57:29 AM
D'Israeli :

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3v-cyhgLce4/UbB2RCatABI/AAAAAAAACbk/yFuCqoZy6o0/s1600/Stickleback-NotB-Cover-3-Approval-Black.jpg)

(https://cafans.b-cdn.net/images/Category_48189/subcat_138975/Prog1713_1a.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6mUqbSW0AACLSx?format=jpg&name=medium)

(https://mlpnk72yciwc.i.optimole.com/cqhiHLc.WqA8~2eefa/w:600/h:783/q:75/https://bleedingcool.com/wp-content/uploads//2011/08/Lowlife-TD-02_02-Approval.jpg)
(https://mlpnk72yciwc.i.optimole.com/cqhiHLc.WqA8~2eefa/w:600/h:783/q:75/https://bleedingcool.com/wp-content/uploads//2011/08/Lowlife-TD-02_01-Approval.jpg)
Title: Re: FINAL!!! Favourite CURRENT art droid D’Israeli or Colin MacNeil
Post by: Tomwe on 10 February, 2021, 07:59:12 AM
Thrill receptors to max! These two Droids are surely the best Tharg has in his ranks. My love of cartooning is fulfilled when reading the work of Mr Brooker but I am giddy when greeted by the sharp blacks of Colin's pages upon opening a prog so there's my vote. We are blessed that all these talents continue to draw for our favourite weekly distraction.
Thanks again for running theses Tourneys, Colin!
Title: Re: FINAL!!! Favourite CURRENT art droid D’Israeli or Colin MacNeil
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 10 February, 2021, 08:15:41 AM
D'Israeli is something very special; one of the best and most original droids we have. 

But man... Supersurf 10.  Johnny Alpha's death.  Freaking AmericaColin McNeil is one of the most important figures in prog history, and gets my vote here.





Title: Re: FINAL!!! Favourite CURRENT art droid D’Israeli or Colin MacNeil
Post by: SmallBlueThing(Reborn) on 10 February, 2021, 08:33:16 AM
Yeah, Colin for me. For Insurrection largely, the art of which knocked me for six on my recent reread.

But for everything else as well. Including (though not relevant here) his Conan and Solomon Kane two parter in the last days of Savage Sword.

SBT
Title: Re: FINAL!!! Favourite CURRENT art droid D’Israeli or Colin MacNeil
Post by: Magnetica on 10 February, 2021, 08:39:51 AM
Mechanismo, America, Tour of Duty, Insurrection, countless modern Dredds.

It's Colin MacNeil by a country mile.
Title: Re: FINAL!!! Favourite CURRENT art droid D’Israeli or Colin MacNeil
Post by: rogue69 on 10 February, 2021, 08:48:29 AM
D'Israeli
Title: Re: FINAL!!! Favourite CURRENT art droid D’Israeli or Colin MacNeil
Post by: abelardsnazz on 10 February, 2021, 09:00:09 AM
Both magnificent artists with a huge body of work - but who to choose? Um, um...Colin MacNeil.
Title: Re: FINAL!!! Favourite CURRENT art droid D’Israeli or Colin MacNeil
Post by: Barrington Boots on 10 February, 2021, 09:05:28 AM
Two superb artists, but got to be Colin MacNeil for me
Title: Re: FINAL!!! Favourite CURRENT art droid D’Israeli or Colin MacNeil
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 10 February, 2021, 09:21:20 AM
Colin MacNeil
Title: Re: FINAL!!! Favourite CURRENT art droid D’Israeli or Colin MacNeil
Post by: AlexF on 10 February, 2021, 09:32:18 AM
Like, no doubt McNeil has produced more stunning pages of art in his time, but that D'Israeli, man, he really brings it with the inventiveness and the 'how does he cram all that detail in' factor. McNeil has more on terms of sheer numbers (370+ episodes vs 270+), but I think D'Is has that bit more extreme variety of style. Close, though!

For me it's McNeil on America, Chopper and Insurrection - with a long service award thrown in for many an excellent Dredd story, if none quite as good as those other three efforts...

versus D'Israeli on Leviathan, Low Life, XTNCT, Helium, Scarlet Traces and Stickleback - with fond memories thrown in for his rather good Future Shocks under the name Molly Eyre.

Ah, so much for the statistical approach. Just typing out 'America, Chopper and Insurrection' has made my emotional control cortex activate strongly in favour of Colin McNeil. Surprising myself, there, I definitely hit 'reply' intending to cast my vote the other way.
Title: Re: FINAL!!! Favourite CURRENT art droid D’Israeli or Colin MacNeil
Post by: Lorenzo on 10 February, 2021, 09:58:41 AM
Absolutely love D'Israeli's work. Particularly his style change between Stickleback and Scarlet Traces. Low Life is one of my all time favourites... but, I'm gonna vote for

Colin MacNeil

for his incredible body of artwork in Insurrection, Warhammer, Chopper, America, Strange & Darke and those death scenes in Strontium Dog and Mechanismo.
Title: Re: FINAL!!! Favourite CURRENT art droid D’Israeli or Colin MacNeil
Post by: The Mind of Wolfie Smith on 10 February, 2021, 10:01:44 AM
d'israeli
Title: Re: FINAL!!! Favourite CURRENT art droid D’Israeli or Colin MacNeil
Post by: BPP on 10 February, 2021, 10:50:58 AM
Look, it's STILL Henry Flint but as you've all had a bad day (or something) then it goes to his victor, D'israeli

(https://futureshockd.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/low-life-art-disraeli-copyright-rebellion1.jpeg)
Title: Re: FINAL!!! Favourite CURRENT art droid D’Israeli or Colin MacNeil
Post by: IndigoPrime on 10 February, 2021, 10:57:48 AM
Easy choice for me: D'Israeli, with his exciting experimentation, visually striking styles, surprising emotional clout, and intriguing textures and colouring. But I suspect MacNeil will win the popular vote.
Title: Re: FINAL!!! Favourite CURRENT art droid D’Israeli or Colin MacNeil
Post by: Bolt-01 on 10 February, 2021, 10:59:40 AM
Ah man.
(http://www.futurequake.co.uk/imagebucket/CoverWebbies/CoverDB32Web.jpg)

vs

(http://www.futurequake.co.uk/imagebucket/CoverWebbies/Cover-DB36-Web-L.jpg)

I don't know that I can do this one. I adore both of these men so much.
Title: Re: FINAL!!! Favourite CURRENT art droid D’Israeli or Colin MacNeil
Post by: broodblik on 10 February, 2021, 11:14:24 AM
That Dogbreath cover convince me so yes I am going for Colin MacNeil
Title: Re: FINAL!!! Favourite CURRENT art droid D’Israeli or Colin MacNeil
Post by: Magnetica on 10 February, 2021, 11:25:09 AM
Quote from: BPP on 10 February, 2021, 10:50:58 AM
Look, it's STILL Henry Flint....

Yes it's definitely Flint, as it is Bolland in the classic vote. But as neither seem to be on the ballot paper, you can only vote for who is 😉.
Title: Re: FINAL!!! Favourite CURRENT art droid D’Israeli or Colin MacNeil
Post by: Timothy on 10 February, 2021, 11:25:32 AM
I am genuinely torn, but today it's a vote for D'Israeli.
Title: Re: FINAL!!! Favourite CURRENT art droid D’Israeli or Colin MacNeil
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 10 February, 2021, 02:39:41 PM
D'Israeli for me!
Title: Re: FINAL!!! Favourite CURRENT art droid D’Israeli or Colin MacNeil
Post by: Rogue Judge on 10 February, 2021, 03:24:00 PM
Colin MacNeil by a country mile for me. Others have already provided some great reasons - America, Dredd (any Dredd), Death of Alpha, and Insurrection (especially book 1!).

I'm always looking forward to the next Wagner/MacNeil Dredd story.

And this is shocking good Bolt!
Quote from: Bolt-01 on 10 February, 2021, 10:59:40 AM
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Title: Re: FINAL!!! Favourite CURRENT art droid D’Israeli or Colin MacNeil
Post by: milstar on 11 February, 2021, 12:13:03 AM
This is easy. MacNeil all the way. When I saw his art in America, I couldn't believe it's possible that some can draw like that.
Title: Re: FINAL!!! Favourite CURRENT art droid D’Israeli or Colin MacNeil
Post by: Funt Solo on 11 February, 2021, 03:00:35 PM
C.M.
Title: Re: FINAL!!! Favourite CURRENT art droid D’Israeli or Colin MacNeil
Post by: Link Prime on 11 February, 2021, 04:00:47 PM
Colin MacNeil all the sneckin way.
Title: Re: FINAL!!! Favourite CURRENT art droid D’Israeli or Colin MacNeil
Post by: ming on 11 February, 2021, 07:12:27 PM
D'Israeli
Title: Re: FINAL!!! Favourite CURRENT art droid D’Israeli or Colin MacNeil
Post by: sixmo on 12 February, 2021, 01:24:26 AM
It's very easy to be enthusiastic about both these artists work. I'm always startled by the amount of detail in D'Israeli's backgrounds. I'm also always surprised how gruesome his imagery can get when the bullets start flying. Colin MacNeil's work on Dredd is definitive. When he rolls in, it is not for filler. If I could choose only one of these artists to appear in next week's prog, I think I would have to slightly veer towards MacNeil. I'm picking Colin MacNeil in this contest.
Title: Re: FINAL!!! Favourite CURRENT art droid D’Israeli or Colin MacNeil
Post by: Dandontdare on 12 February, 2021, 01:42:33 AM
Colin MacNeil most definitely
Title: Re: FINAL!!! Favourite CURRENT art droid D’Israeli or Colin MacNeil
Post by: Colin YNWA on 12 February, 2021, 06:49:38 AM
Almost done folks - but you have today - last day of the tourney - to vote on this one and I'll count up in the morning. Wow hard to believe this will all be over... well almost...
Title: Re: FINAL!!! Favourite CURRENT art droid D’Israeli or Colin MacNeil
Post by: Bolt-01 on 12 February, 2021, 09:12:15 AM
Oh sneck, as if today wasn't bad enough I have to make 'this' decision?

Normally when faced with things like this I firmly believe that you know what the answer is almost instantly, and no matter how long you spend prevaricating you know where you will eventually get to (see also which of my offspring I would eat first) but this time I didn't get that little voice whisper a name to me.

D'Israeli.

Damn you for making me do this.
Title: Re: FINAL!!! Favourite CURRENT art droid D’Israeli or Colin MacNeil
Post by: I, Cosh on 12 February, 2021, 03:40:44 PM
I had planned to try and write some longer posts for these last couple of rounds but ran out of steam. Sorry about that.

Anyway, this final belongs to the restless, refined, refulgent, relentlessly reinventive Renaissance robot that is... D'Israeli.
Title: Re: FINAL!!! Favourite CURRENT art droid D’Israeli or Colin MacNeil
Post by: Colin YNWA on 13 February, 2021, 07:21:19 AM
VOTING CLOSED

BANG - SHOWER OF MORE TINSEL - ANOTHER GIANT TROPHY - CROWD GOES WILD AGAIN


Well here we have a giant killer in a vote against the artist who was for me at least is the other favourite in this tournement and here there was no surprise as

COLIN MacNEIL

Is our favourite current artist and I have to say its no great surprise.

What does surprise me is quite how much Colin MacNeil has flexed and changed his style so much over the years. From the early learning we saw on the page. To the mastery of clean, bloody, painted colour work that culminated in one of the - if not the - greatest Dredd story ever in 'America'. But he moved on to developed to a tighter more 'traditional' pen and link line style. Then painterly greytones in Insurrection and lately to a much more high contrast, bold line style - that I personally feel is the absolute hieght of his work. He defines getting better and better.

Each of these styles though - and I'm sure I've missed some - has been so comfortable on the eye, while displaying incredible action and violence and curiously the all remain so very Colin MacNeil, each has been so different and each is so recognisable as him and I've never understood how he does that. Its an incredible talent used so well and kept so fresh.

We are very lucky to still have him in our pages and long may that continue. Thank you Colin.

We mustn't forget Matt Brooker - D'Israeli though. He pulled in many a vote here and has had an astonishing run. The wonder of his work is its so individual, so distinct and idiosyncratic and yet here so uniformly loved. Some more conservative groups on social media seem to react against that individualism - here its so great to see that stunning, creative, imaginative style embraced so totally. Is there any thing the mighty Matt Brooker can't draw and draw with a stunning energy? And judging by what he's done the answer is no!

And there we have to utterly wonderful and deserving finalists and we're don... what... would would win between the Classic and the Current... well that's an interesting question, shall we dip our toes in there...
Title: Re: FINAL!!! Favourite CURRENT art droid D’Israeli or Colin MacNeil
Post by: BPP on 13 February, 2021, 09:32:58 PM
But really, it was Henry Flint.


(Colin is great obvs, and an absolute gent at conventions).
Title: Re: FINAL!!! Favourite CURRENT art droid D’Israeli or Colin MacNeil
Post by: Rogue Judge on 13 February, 2021, 09:39:41 PM
Pleased Colin MacNeil took it, well deserved! I agree that his current work in the Prog has been some of his very best.

I'm glad I didn't have to vote between MacNeil and Flint...definitely the top two!