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2000 AD => General => Topic started by: Colin YNWA on 07 May, 2021, 06:34:19 AM

Title: Lee Carter or Brian Bolland - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 5
Post by: Colin YNWA on 07 May, 2021, 06:34:19 AM
As if the news of the morning wasn't bad enough for Current Team the Classic Team is rolling out some very big guns these last couple of rounds - if there was to be a strong start for the Current Team it's hard to imagine it not being pulled back...

That said to my surprise Brian Bolland actually only got to Round 2 in the Classic Tourney swamped as he was by a tide of love for Massimo Belardinelli - it wasn't even that close. That feels a slight false view of this much loved droid.

Likewise Lee Carter got to the second round of the Current Tourney where he was swamped by a tide of love for Cliff Robinson. Can his crisp imaginative stylings surprise us against Bolland?

Time for you to decide your favourite as the droids square up to the tee...

Lee Carter - more info (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=droid&page=profiles&choice=leec)

Or

Brian Bolland - more info (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=droid&page=profiles&choice=BRIANB)

Remember for this tourney you have 5 votes to distribute as you please between these two artists, whole numbers only. So you can vote 5 - 0; 4 - 1; or 3 - 2; either way depending on how much more you like one artist's work over the other.

If you can't be doing with that just name your favourite - remember bold tags, or other ways of highlighting always appreciated - and I'll give them 3 votes and nowt to the other droid.

Three day votes, so this one ends ....

Remember we only consider work for Tharg in these Tourneys

What the heck is all this about - well we have a thread for that (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=47534.0)

How does this new voting work?  Look here (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=47534.msg1059536#msg1059536) and why again? (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=47534.msg1059557#msg1059557)

I don't understand how this works, what are the rules of the Ryder Cup - yep got ya covered there too (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=47534.msg1059595#msg1059595)

Anything else just ask and I'll make something up. Most importantly have fun!
Title: Re: Lee Carter or Brian Bolland - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 5
Post by: broodblik on 07 May, 2021, 07:31:18 AM
Carter 2 : Bolland 3
Title: Re: Lee Carter or Brian Bolland - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 5
Post by: Sean SD on 07 May, 2021, 07:56:42 AM
Bolland FC 4 - Carter Jets 1
Title: Re: Lee Carter or Brian Bolland - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 5
Post by: Magnetica on 07 May, 2021, 08:49:59 AM
Carter 0: 5 Bolland
Title: Re: Lee Carter or Brian Bolland - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 5
Post by: abelardsnazz on 07 May, 2021, 08:50:46 AM
Boland will always be held up as creating classic work for the Prog's early days. But Lee has created some incredible work for the modern era, love his work on Dead Eyes and Angelic.

If I could issue half points I would, but as it is it's Brian Bolland 3, Lee Carter 2.
Title: Re: Lee Carter or Brian Bolland - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 5
Post by: milstar on 07 May, 2021, 08:54:11 AM
Shamelessly -
Bolland 5,
Carter 0
Title: Re: Lee Carter or Brian Bolland - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 5
Post by: AlexF on 07 May, 2021, 08:55:48 AM
So here's the thing - one can't, CAN'T I say, deny the technical mastery and vivid imagination of B. Bolland. But you also can't underestimate how much I love it when an artist draws things that make my flesh crawl with creepiness and even disgust. And boy howdy, is L. Carter a MASTER of that art.
So yeah, Carter: 3, Bolland: 2.
Title: Re: Lee Carter or Brian Bolland - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 5
Post by: rogue69 on 07 May, 2021, 09:07:43 AM
Brian Bolland 4, Lee Carter 1
Title: Re: Lee Carter or Brian Bolland - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 5
Post by: SmallBlueThing(Reborn) on 07 May, 2021, 09:57:47 AM
Even as a small boy, Bolland was my least favourite of the 2000AD artists, so I have no hesitation in awarding this a 5-0 victory to Lee Carter.

SBT
Title: Re: Lee Carter or Brian Bolland - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 5
Post by: Tomwe on 07 May, 2021, 10:02:26 AM
I'm sorry Lee but it's Brian Bolland: 5
Title: Re: Lee Carter or Brian Bolland - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 5
Post by: Dog Deever on 07 May, 2021, 10:42:19 AM
Bolland City 5 Carter United 0
Title: Re: Lee Carter or Brian Bolland - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 5
Post by: DrJomster on 07 May, 2021, 10:52:57 AM
Hmm, tricky one. Bolland has no doubt delivered on iconic images, but Carter's really quite good in his own right. Rounding a bit, let's go:

Bolland 3 Carter 2
Title: Re: Lee Carter or Brian Bolland - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 5
Post by: I, Cosh on 07 May, 2021, 11:27:09 AM
Carter is an artist who has improved a lot over his time with Tharg and his Indigo Prime is a delight. Obviously I like to take every opportunity that presents itself to sneer about how Bolland's clean, realist style isn't for me. In the end, I can't deny it though:

Bolland 4 - 1 Carter
Title: Re: Lee Carter or Brian Bolland - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 5
Post by: BPP on 07 May, 2021, 11:51:22 AM
Funnily my complaint about both artists work is the same but 4-1 Bolland for those classic panels amd covers.
Title: Re: Lee Carter or Brian Bolland - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 5
Post by: BPP on 07 May, 2021, 11:53:24 AM
I'd just like to add - Colin, if you put Henry Flint against Carlos Ezquerra I will murder you.
Title: Re: Lee Carter or Brian Bolland - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 5
Post by: Rogue Judge on 07 May, 2021, 02:43:48 PM
Bolland 4; Carter 1
Title: Re: Lee Carter or Brian Bolland - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 5
Post by: Funt Solo on 07 May, 2021, 05:12:22 PM
Bolland, being an art god:

(https://i.redd.it/sj21nhgbxhs11.jpg)


Carter, also being very good indeed:

(https://i.imgur.com/T3jbC8O.png)


Bolland 4 :: 1 Carter

Sorry, Lee - I really enjoy your work, but being put up against Bolland. Man. Tough match. If this vote was a "what have you done for me lately?", I could easily switch the numbers around.
Title: Re: Lee Carter or Brian Bolland - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 5
Post by: Swerty on 07 May, 2021, 10:00:59 PM
No contest really Bolland is one of the greatest ever.4-1
Title: Re: Lee Carter or Brian Bolland - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 5
Post by: sintec on 08 May, 2021, 08:55:11 AM
Another tough draw. Bolland 4 - Carter 1
Title: Re: Lee Carter or Brian Bolland - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 5
Post by: paddykafka on 08 May, 2021, 03:20:42 PM
Lee Carter (1) Brian Bolland (4)
Title: Re: Lee Carter or Brian Bolland - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 5
Post by: Colin YNWA on 09 May, 2021, 07:22:53 AM
Quote from: BPP on 07 May, 2021, 11:53:24 AM
I'd just like to add - Colin, if you put Henry Flint against Carlos Ezquerra I will murder you.

Errr the draw is the draw...

Title: Re: Lee Carter or Brian Bolland - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 5
Post by: Colin YNWA on 09 May, 2021, 07:28:14 AM
Also last call here. Current Team need some points quickly, but you have to wonder if anyone going up against Brian Bolland was going to get them? Well you have today to decide.

For my vote I was surprised how close this one was. Brian Bolland was the man for me back in the day. His tight close style curiously tempered with utterly glorious imagination was the thing and oh those iconic images. As time has gone on however I've come to look for different things in my art and there is little doubt Lee Carter's work on Indigo Prime in particular has just been astonishing, absolutely astonishing.... but Brian Bolland... I'm not allowed ties so I'm going to let my natural biase towards Current creep in and go -

Lee Carter 3 : Brian Bolland 2
Title: Re: Lee Carter or Brian Bolland - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 5
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 09 May, 2021, 01:46:29 PM
Do you know what, I'm going to go the same.

Carter 3, Bolland 2.
Title: Re: Lee Carter or Brian Bolland - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 5
Post by: Colin YNWA on 10 May, 2021, 06:27:20 AM
VOTING CLOSED

So again the strangle hold Classic Team has on this competition tightens. They've used some big names to estabish it but the last two results have marked the sense of talent that has defined the Galaxy's Greatest. The Current Team has put forward artists that have been able to take votes but they will need to stop the flood soon to have any impact on this tournament.

Current Team 1 : Classic Team 4

Current Team 202 : Classic Team 313