Title: Thread moderating
Post by: Dudley on 13 January, 2004, 04:55:56 PM
Post by: Dudley on 13 January, 2004, 04:55:56 PM
This comes from a discussion on the "Few happy few" thread, where it was mentioned that there are too many off-topic posts.
I think tha problem is that on the threads where people are talking about "serious" 2KAD or general comics issues, there is a tendency for others to add in silly comments that steer the thread off-course too quickly. (Guilty as charged, yer honour).
How about adding an option for some people to start "moderated" threads, whereby the original poster can vet others' posts before they appear on the board. (Those with a profile? People who've put up more than x number of posts? Those who've been here a year or more?)
This wouldn't be a wholescale moderated board, which is the kiss of death. People without the "power" to put up a moderated post would still be able to put up a thread. It wouldn't kill the number of offtopic threads, but if you don't want to read them they're clearly defined. What it should do is raise the level of serious comics-related discussion way above "IT SUCKS!/IT ROCKS!".
What do people think? Is this even possible?
...Dudley
I think tha problem is that on the threads where people are talking about "serious" 2KAD or general comics issues, there is a tendency for others to add in silly comments that steer the thread off-course too quickly. (Guilty as charged, yer honour).
How about adding an option for some people to start "moderated" threads, whereby the original poster can vet others' posts before they appear on the board. (Those with a profile? People who've put up more than x number of posts? Those who've been here a year or more?)
This wouldn't be a wholescale moderated board, which is the kiss of death. People without the "power" to put up a moderated post would still be able to put up a thread. It wouldn't kill the number of offtopic threads, but if you don't want to read them they're clearly defined. What it should do is raise the level of serious comics-related discussion way above "IT SUCKS!/IT ROCKS!".
What do people think? Is this even possible?
...Dudley
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Matt Timson on 13 January, 2004, 04:59:34 PM
Post by: Matt Timson on 13 January, 2004, 04:59:34 PM
Why don't we just get the Thought Police in instead?
Go and stand in the corner, Dudley. Don't forget your special hat...
Go and stand in the corner, Dudley. Don't forget your special hat...
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Oddboy on 13 January, 2004, 05:02:01 PM
Post by: Oddboy on 13 January, 2004, 05:02:01 PM
Not convinced it would be a good idea (and it would probably involve lots of re-coding)
Might be better if the the thread starter posts a message to the thread in question saying "GET BACK ON TOPIC, YOU FUNT-WIPES!"
Might be better if the the thread starter posts a message to the thread in question saying "GET BACK ON TOPIC, YOU FUNT-WIPES!"
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Matt Timson on 13 January, 2004, 05:02:05 PM
Post by: Matt Timson on 13 January, 2004, 05:02:05 PM
;)
There. Now you can't even take offence! You idiot.
:)
:)
There. Now you can't even take offence! You idiot.
:)
:)
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Dudley on 13 January, 2004, 05:03:42 PM
Post by: Dudley on 13 January, 2004, 05:03:42 PM
But, but, but...that's the beauty of the idea. No central moderator getting power-happy or trying to steer the board in one direction. No limit to the number of threads. No limits to the topics that appear on the board.
Just something that eases the pain of the "serious" people who start decent interesting threads only to see them hijacked by completely irrelevant topics.
Giving people some power to keep the crap off threads that they have started and the results of which they find genuinely interesting - surely that's a good thing?
...Dudley
Just something that eases the pain of the "serious" people who start decent interesting threads only to see them hijacked by completely irrelevant topics.
Giving people some power to keep the crap off threads that they have started and the results of which they find genuinely interesting - surely that's a good thing?
...Dudley
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Mr C on 13 January, 2004, 05:03:46 PM
Post by: Mr C on 13 January, 2004, 05:03:46 PM
What do I think?
It SUCKS!
But seriously, I don't like the idea of moderating threads, sounds too much like censorship to me. Part of the charm of this board is the fact that threads can wander back and forth so much.
And remeber, when you put up a new thread, you could always designate it a "off-topic".
If you really want a serious debate over the quality of a strip or the future of 2000AD, etc, then just put up a thread about it.
It SUCKS!
But seriously, I don't like the idea of moderating threads, sounds too much like censorship to me. Part of the charm of this board is the fact that threads can wander back and forth so much.
And remeber, when you put up a new thread, you could always designate it a "off-topic".
If you really want a serious debate over the quality of a strip or the future of 2000AD, etc, then just put up a thread about it.
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Art on 13 January, 2004, 05:08:17 PM
Post by: Art on 13 January, 2004, 05:08:17 PM
Under Liberal Stalinism an easy and efficient system would be set up by which each post would be cleared with the Posting Comisariat, Posting Papers issued and stamped and then it would be retyped for posting by idealogically correct Posting Officials. It will be very quick and simple and should take no longer than a few days.
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Slippery PD on 13 January, 2004, 05:09:29 PM
Post by: Slippery PD on 13 January, 2004, 05:09:29 PM
As I made the point about off topics, perhaps I should elucidate (sp).
Maybe and as we are getting a change in this area anyway, we could have two message boards. One for general and comic related stuff, one for off-topic. Of course Im not for a rigid set of rules here, but it may be better to have the more obviuosly off topic stuff (eg Im a pikey and scotland are really crap at football) on another page of the board and this may assist on it being more user freindly.....
Ive seen it work on other boards, but Im not sure if it will work here.
Yer "its only a suggestion" Slips
Maybe and as we are getting a change in this area anyway, we could have two message boards. One for general and comic related stuff, one for off-topic. Of course Im not for a rigid set of rules here, but it may be better to have the more obviuosly off topic stuff (eg Im a pikey and scotland are really crap at football) on another page of the board and this may assist on it being more user freindly.....
Ive seen it work on other boards, but Im not sure if it will work here.
Yer "its only a suggestion" Slips
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Dudley on 13 January, 2004, 05:15:27 PM
Post by: Dudley on 13 January, 2004, 05:15:27 PM
Liberal Stalinism would be avoided by allowing many many people the chance to put up a moderated thread. Everyone's Stalin = no-one's Stalin.
...Dudley
...Dudley
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Matt Timson on 13 January, 2004, 05:16:48 PM
Post by: Matt Timson on 13 January, 2004, 05:16:48 PM
You can't stand in the way of evolution. If a "John Wagner is ace" thread mutates into a "why I think jelly is vile" thread- then so be it.
It'll eventually mutate into something else after that anyway- which is what makes the place interesting. This thread is a good example of a stupid idea evolving into an interesting topic of conversation- but for all the wrong reasons (as far as the originator of the thread is ((probably)) concerned).
Now then, Dud- you do know I'm only teasing you- right?
Is that hat on straight? We want to see the big 'D'.
It'll eventually mutate into something else after that anyway- which is what makes the place interesting. This thread is a good example of a stupid idea evolving into an interesting topic of conversation- but for all the wrong reasons (as far as the originator of the thread is ((probably)) concerned).
Now then, Dud- you do know I'm only teasing you- right?
Is that hat on straight? We want to see the big 'D'.
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Wils on 13 January, 2004, 05:26:05 PM
Post by: Wils on 13 January, 2004, 05:26:05 PM
Also, the moderating *could* be abused, as in;
"That bastard [insert boarder's name here], who I hate/killed my puppy/slept with my wife/made me cry and wet my pants, has posted on *my* thread. I'm not having *that*." (Deletes post)
"That bastard [insert boarder's name here], who I hate/killed my puppy/slept with my wife/made me cry and wet my pants, has posted on *my* thread. I'm not having *that*." (Deletes post)
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Dudley on 13 January, 2004, 05:28:19 PM
Post by: Dudley on 13 January, 2004, 05:28:19 PM
JEB - guess who the other guy is, eh?
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Matt Timson on 13 January, 2004, 05:39:47 PM
Post by: Matt Timson on 13 January, 2004, 05:39:47 PM
I dunno- it can't be me because I'm much better looking and have more hair. You definately look like you need a shave though...
Seriously- I like this place because we do all take the piss out of each other. It took me ages to make that monkey ripping off heads pic- but it was worth it to me because I like the guys I was taking the piss out of*.
With the exception of Mongo and Chuckles- I don't waste my time making fun of people I don't like- I just ignore them.
Anyway- censorship bad- chaos good!
Matt
*except for Wils- he smells of wee wee...
Seriously- I like this place because we do all take the piss out of each other. It took me ages to make that monkey ripping off heads pic- but it was worth it to me because I like the guys I was taking the piss out of*.
With the exception of Mongo and Chuckles- I don't waste my time making fun of people I don't like- I just ignore them.
Anyway- censorship bad- chaos good!
Matt
*except for Wils- he smells of wee wee...
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Bony Fella on 13 January, 2004, 05:40:58 PM
Post by: Bony Fella on 13 January, 2004, 05:40:58 PM
I have to say, that does sound like a pretty awful idea! Just because someone isn't being totally serious in a serious discussion, their opinions aren't posted? Can't be right. The point IS we all like being a wee bit odd and silly, but when it really matters we go all anoracky. It seems fine as it is to me...
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Tanky on 13 January, 2004, 05:52:17 PM
Post by: Tanky on 13 January, 2004, 05:52:17 PM
Censorship sucks. Start moderating and this irregular is off. IMHO the off-topic threads are salt of the board. Fair enough, the site is dedicated to tooth, and if i hadn't been a reader for 10 years or so, i wouldn't have bothered looking it up at all. But i personally find that a lot of the comic based threads are a little too in depth for me, sometimes intimidating (I did'nt wanna post on all that Siku's Dredd business for fear of being ostracised for example) and at times go right over my swede altogether.
I don't think i'm the only poster who (unintentionally) sticks mostly to off-topic and generally comedy threads. It's these, i think, that give us all the best insight into the kind of quality people we have here.
This idea can only go horribly, horribly wrong.
Yours, representing all those comics fans who would rather see a monkey in a hat than discuss those little credit boxes (for example) xTGx
I don't think i'm the only poster who (unintentionally) sticks mostly to off-topic and generally comedy threads. It's these, i think, that give us all the best insight into the kind of quality people we have here.
This idea can only go horribly, horribly wrong.
Yours, representing all those comics fans who would rather see a monkey in a hat than discuss those little credit boxes (for example) xTGx
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Dudley on 13 January, 2004, 05:58:12 PM
Post by: Dudley on 13 January, 2004, 05:58:12 PM
(Losing temper and shouting petulantly in the full knowledge that this argument is all but lost)
But it wouldn't be ALL threads!
No danger of losing a single comedy thread!
No stopping anybody from posting their own threads!
No censorship!
No stopping anyone from posting on any one thread...UNLESS the person who started the thread had decided to make it a moderated thread. Just the equivalent of giving some people the right to keep their individual thread "spam-free"!
(trails, panting, into silence)
But it wouldn't be ALL threads!
No danger of losing a single comedy thread!
No stopping anybody from posting their own threads!
No censorship!
No stopping anyone from posting on any one thread...UNLESS the person who started the thread had decided to make it a moderated thread. Just the equivalent of giving some people the right to keep their individual thread "spam-free"!
(trails, panting, into silence)
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Krustabi on 13 January, 2004, 05:58:13 PM
Post by: Krustabi on 13 January, 2004, 05:58:13 PM
Send electric shocks to those who deviate through their mouse.
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Wils on 13 January, 2004, 05:58:55 PM
Post by: Wils on 13 January, 2004, 05:58:55 PM
except for Wils- he smells of wee wee...
But, as said in a previous thread, it's not *my* wee. At least I've got a *normal* fetish, and not one involving extremely tall reporters and naked, fez-wearing gorillas. :p
I like the way that threads go off on tangents, just like conversations in the real world. It reinforces the fact that we *aren't* your stereotypical comic fans. The last thing we want is the board to end up like one of the scarily anally retentive Marvel or DC boards where anything veering away from on topic is deemed a no-no. That route only leads to the realm of sad knackerdom.
But, as said in a previous thread, it's not *my* wee. At least I've got a *normal* fetish, and not one involving extremely tall reporters and naked, fez-wearing gorillas. :p
I like the way that threads go off on tangents, just like conversations in the real world. It reinforces the fact that we *aren't* your stereotypical comic fans. The last thing we want is the board to end up like one of the scarily anally retentive Marvel or DC boards where anything veering away from on topic is deemed a no-no. That route only leads to the realm of sad knackerdom.
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Tanky on 13 January, 2004, 06:02:59 PM
Post by: Tanky on 13 January, 2004, 06:02:59 PM
Cool. Who wants to talk about something else?!
(JOKE!)
(JOKE!)
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Krustabi on 13 January, 2004, 06:03:09 PM
Post by: Krustabi on 13 January, 2004, 06:03:09 PM
Sorry, on my last thread, I forgot to end it with "..."
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Matt Timson on 13 January, 2004, 06:06:39 PM
Post by: Matt Timson on 13 January, 2004, 06:06:39 PM
"I did'nt wanna post on all that Siku's Dredd business for fear of being ostracised for example"
Wouldn't happen here- unless you called somebody a c*nt for not agreeing with your point of view!
Wouldn't happen here- unless you called somebody a c*nt for not agreeing with your point of view!
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: petemaskreplica on 13 January, 2004, 06:16:07 PM
Post by: petemaskreplica on 13 January, 2004, 06:16:07 PM
" I like the guys I was taking the piss out of"
Timson in "I like Molcher" shock confession!
Timson in "I like Molcher" shock confession!
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Matt Timson on 13 January, 2004, 06:17:38 PM
Post by: Matt Timson on 13 January, 2004, 06:17:38 PM
What? you didn't think all that animosity was real, did you?!?
;)
;)
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: petemaskreplica on 13 January, 2004, 06:19:12 PM
Post by: petemaskreplica on 13 January, 2004, 06:19:12 PM
I just never thought I'd see the day when you admitted it ;)
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Trout on 13 January, 2004, 06:21:22 PM
Post by: Trout on 13 January, 2004, 06:21:22 PM
I've taken a distinct liking to licorice allsorts lately.
While the Bassett's brand will always be the best, I've started researching the best generic supermarket allsort rip-off products.
So far I've established the Tesco brand are poor, but the Co-op type are surprisingly good.
Do boarders have any information I can add to my survey?
- Trout
While the Bassett's brand will always be the best, I've started researching the best generic supermarket allsort rip-off products.
So far I've established the Tesco brand are poor, but the Co-op type are surprisingly good.
Do boarders have any information I can add to my survey?
- Trout
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Krustabi on 13 January, 2004, 06:26:22 PM
Post by: Krustabi on 13 January, 2004, 06:26:22 PM
The problem with licorice allsorts is you have to find an agreeable licorice/other stuff ratio. Whatever you do, DON'T eat ANY salty licorice from Ikea....
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Trout on 13 January, 2004, 06:41:20 PM
Post by: Trout on 13 January, 2004, 06:41:20 PM
Yes, Krusty. Spot on.
The licorice-other stuff ratio is crucial.
I'm usually left with a small bagful of the licorice-only ones.
Annoyingly, there were quite a lot of these in the otherwise-excellent Co-op bag.
- Trout
The licorice-other stuff ratio is crucial.
I'm usually left with a small bagful of the licorice-only ones.
Annoyingly, there were quite a lot of these in the otherwise-excellent Co-op bag.
- Trout
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Krustabi on 13 January, 2004, 06:51:23 PM
Post by: Krustabi on 13 January, 2004, 06:51:23 PM
I have a staff discount at Co-op. Do you want me to mail you some licorice?
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Dudley on 13 January, 2004, 06:52:43 PM
Post by: Dudley on 13 January, 2004, 06:52:43 PM
OK, let's try this...
GET BACK ON TOPIC, YOU FUNT-WIPES!
GET BACK ON TOPIC, YOU FUNT-WIPES!
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Trout on 13 January, 2004, 06:52:51 PM
Post by: Trout on 13 January, 2004, 06:52:51 PM
Ha, ha, ha!
Many thanks, sir, but I've thoroughly investigated Co-op allsorts and am now moving on to other producers.
But, a kind offer.
- Trouty Bassett
Many thanks, sir, but I've thoroughly investigated Co-op allsorts and am now moving on to other producers.
But, a kind offer.
- Trouty Bassett
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Krustabi on 13 January, 2004, 07:02:11 PM
Post by: Krustabi on 13 January, 2004, 07:02:11 PM
Didley, you clearly have no idea how important licorice is. You probably like honeycomb or something...
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Dudley on 13 January, 2004, 07:05:23 PM
Post by: Dudley on 13 January, 2004, 07:05:23 PM
See? Doesn't work.
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Krustabi on 13 January, 2004, 07:07:00 PM
Post by: Krustabi on 13 January, 2004, 07:07:00 PM
NO!!!!!!!IT DOESN'T!!!!!!!!!!!
MWA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!!!!!!!!!!
MWA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Proudhuff on 13 January, 2004, 07:25:23 PM
Post by: Proudhuff on 13 January, 2004, 07:25:23 PM
Do you really just get one jelly Bertie Bassett in each pack? I once got two, whilst my eldest Juve claimed to have found four in one pack but I think his Granda could have helped out by devilish slight of hand? maybe time for a bit research...
Coconut doug.
Coconut doug.
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Trout on 13 January, 2004, 07:28:07 PM
Post by: Trout on 13 January, 2004, 07:28:07 PM
Next week: Generic jelly babies.
The fish chuckles at Dudley's naive foolishness
- Trout
The fish chuckles at Dudley's naive foolishness
- Trout
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Mr C on 13 January, 2004, 07:43:42 PM
Post by: Mr C on 13 January, 2004, 07:43:42 PM
I never used to like licorice, but now I do. It's like baked beans: Hated them when small love them when big (possibly cause of bigness).
I love fizzy cola bottles though, they are really sour and make my face scrunch up all tight when I stuff my face with them. Yum!
I love fizzy cola bottles though, they are really sour and make my face scrunch up all tight when I stuff my face with them. Yum!
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Trout on 13 January, 2004, 08:37:50 PM
Post by: Trout on 13 January, 2004, 08:37:50 PM
Yum.
There's a tiny sweetshop near where I work and I'm regularly in there buying things I thought you couldn't get any more.
I especially like the aniseed balls, and the incredibly rich chocolates.
Sadly, however, if you ask for a quarter-pound, you get 100 grammes.
Back off, Brussels!
- Trout
There's a tiny sweetshop near where I work and I'm regularly in there buying things I thought you couldn't get any more.
I especially like the aniseed balls, and the incredibly rich chocolates.
Sadly, however, if you ask for a quarter-pound, you get 100 grammes.
Back off, Brussels!
- Trout
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Oddboy on 13 January, 2004, 08:58:12 PM
Post by: Oddboy on 13 January, 2004, 08:58:12 PM
Kate took me to Selfridges sweets counter yesterday. Not to buy anything - just to look.
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Art on 13 January, 2004, 09:15:50 PM
Post by: Art on 13 January, 2004, 09:15:50 PM
Also the Euro-hordes would have us make chocolate out of disgusting filth like cocoa and milk -- the swines!
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Trout on 13 January, 2004, 09:21:51 PM
Post by: Trout on 13 January, 2004, 09:21:51 PM
This is great.
We've gone off-topic yet again. Twice.
Any more Euro-rants?
- Trout
We've gone off-topic yet again. Twice.
Any more Euro-rants?
- Trout
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: El Spurioso on 13 January, 2004, 09:23:42 PM
Post by: El Spurioso on 13 January, 2004, 09:23:42 PM
Where can the idle seeker find the monkey ripping off heads?
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Trout on 13 January, 2004, 09:25:09 PM
Post by: Trout on 13 January, 2004, 09:25:09 PM
Si, typing random words doesn't count.
- Trout
- Trout
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Generally Contrary on 13 January, 2004, 09:31:12 PM
Post by: Generally Contrary on 13 January, 2004, 09:31:12 PM
Do you know that they want to stop us calling our flavoured non-dairy fat 'Ice Cream'. They say, in a silly Clouseau accent, that is should be made with, and I quote, 'meelk'.
Not the stuff that clogs up the filter in the Walls saugage factory.
Not the stuff that clogs up the filter in the Walls saugage factory.
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Wils on 13 January, 2004, 09:34:42 PM
Post by: Wils on 13 January, 2004, 09:34:42 PM
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Trout on 13 January, 2004, 09:35:20 PM
Post by: Trout on 13 January, 2004, 09:35:20 PM
I liked the tabloid outrage at the plans to ban straight bananas.
I also strangely admired the bloody-minded metric martyrs, who went to court rather than write two types of weight on their fruit stall signs.
Britain needs more mentalists like that!
- Trout
I also strangely admired the bloody-minded metric martyrs, who went to court rather than write two types of weight on their fruit stall signs.
Britain needs more mentalists like that!
- Trout
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Proudhuff on 13 January, 2004, 09:53:04 PM
Post by: Proudhuff on 13 January, 2004, 09:53:04 PM
Hands off oor sour plooms you plucky little eurorats!!
LSD for all! 144 pennies still make a pound in my book.
(hence my financial ruin)
Pourhoose Huff
LSD for all! 144 pennies still make a pound in my book.
(hence my financial ruin)
Pourhoose Huff
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: test 4 echo on 13 January, 2004, 10:30:40 PM
Post by: test 4 echo on 13 January, 2004, 10:30:40 PM
"metric martyrs" ?
if god wanted us to go metric, why were there 12 disciples?
if god wanted us to go metric, why were there 12 disciples?
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Dudley on 13 January, 2004, 10:36:07 PM
Post by: Dudley on 13 January, 2004, 10:36:07 PM
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: thrillpowerseeker on 13 January, 2004, 10:42:12 PM
Post by: thrillpowerseeker on 13 January, 2004, 10:42:12 PM
Yes no wonder..it was 240 pennies in a pound..
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: esoteric ed on 13 January, 2004, 11:19:39 PM
Post by: esoteric ed on 13 January, 2004, 11:19:39 PM
Moderating is a bit of a sore point for me right now, I resigned as a moderator of 2 years at the weekend and the forum I was on has been shut down after around 7 years, sadly spoilt by losers!
I was a fair Moderator and we had several different boards, but we had people using them to promote Animal rights, and people posting corpses and starting personal attacks etc and it became a farce.
I think you've got it rather good here, it's full of high spirit here, but I've never seen anyone cross the line... or don't I read carefully enough? ;-)
Ed
I was a fair Moderator and we had several different boards, but we had people using them to promote Animal rights, and people posting corpses and starting personal attacks etc and it became a farce.
I think you've got it rather good here, it's full of high spirit here, but I've never seen anyone cross the line... or don't I read carefully enough? ;-)
Ed
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Trout on 13 January, 2004, 11:27:48 PM
Post by: Trout on 13 January, 2004, 11:27:48 PM
Gagh! Dragged... back... to... topic...
Nnnnnnnn.
Okay, AFAIK, we've only had one person banned: the much-discussed but never-mentioned one.
It strikes me that Dudley's is a good idea, but a great deal of work.
I don't think it's necessary, as we don't have a major problem.
I reject utterly every accusation that this board is a clique.
Anyone is free to join at any time. No-one is rejected.
There are some in-jokes, but a bit of reading or a short explanation - which anyone is willing to provide, with a handy link for reference - clues a newbie in on any joke.
Newbies, say hello and we'll welcome you. We have have an official welcomer.
I'm not prepared to be required to check in on the board at fixed or regular intervals to moderate anything.
I dip into the board - and post a lot, admittedly - when I can, but I don't want to be an official here, and I suspect most others don't either.
I enjoy the positive, silly atmosphere on the board.
All you need to do is observe basic rules of courtesy, as in any conversation, and you will fit in fine.
Can we talk about sweets again, now?
- Trout
Nnnnnnnn.
Okay, AFAIK, we've only had one person banned: the much-discussed but never-mentioned one.
It strikes me that Dudley's is a good idea, but a great deal of work.
I don't think it's necessary, as we don't have a major problem.
I reject utterly every accusation that this board is a clique.
Anyone is free to join at any time. No-one is rejected.
There are some in-jokes, but a bit of reading or a short explanation - which anyone is willing to provide, with a handy link for reference - clues a newbie in on any joke.
Newbies, say hello and we'll welcome you. We have have an official welcomer.
I'm not prepared to be required to check in on the board at fixed or regular intervals to moderate anything.
I dip into the board - and post a lot, admittedly - when I can, but I don't want to be an official here, and I suspect most others don't either.
I enjoy the positive, silly atmosphere on the board.
All you need to do is observe basic rules of courtesy, as in any conversation, and you will fit in fine.
Can we talk about sweets again, now?
- Trout
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: thrillpowerseeker on 13 January, 2004, 11:45:05 PM
Post by: thrillpowerseeker on 13 January, 2004, 11:45:05 PM
Thread moderating?..That idea is so infested with thrill suckers as to be beyond belief
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Queen Firey-Bou on 14 January, 2004, 12:30:58 AM
Post by: Queen Firey-Bou on 14 January, 2004, 12:30:58 AM
why dudley ! thats a fantastic idea for a clique ridden hierachical arch-dull fashist board, i love it !
the blue & pink ones with the wee bobbles on are the best evah !
the blue & pink ones with the wee bobbles on are the best evah !
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Floyd-the-k on 14 January, 2004, 03:29:48 AM
Post by: Floyd-the-k on 14 January, 2004, 03:29:48 AM
if possible it wouldn`t be a bad idea. The thread would appear with the comment (moderated thread) so posters would know that their posts could be removed by the thread starter.
One consequence you would have to reckon with would be a proliferation of extra threads containing the silly comments removed from the moderated threads. There would be a lot of extra threads with titles like "Dudly has removed my comment but this must be heard!". So the net amount of silliness might be displaced rather than reduced.
I really must go and make tests for students.
Jelly is vile
Floyd
One consequence you would have to reckon with would be a proliferation of extra threads containing the silly comments removed from the moderated threads. There would be a lot of extra threads with titles like "Dudly has removed my comment but this must be heard!". So the net amount of silliness might be displaced rather than reduced.
I really must go and make tests for students.
Jelly is vile
Floyd
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Quirkafleeg on 14 January, 2004, 05:47:32 AM
Post by: Quirkafleeg on 14 January, 2004, 05:47:32 AM
"people posting corpses"
Did they send them COD?
Did they send them COD?
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: stront692 on 14 January, 2004, 06:13:20 AM
Post by: stront692 on 14 January, 2004, 06:13:20 AM
i have only just recently discovered that u can post different topics and reply to individual posts (although it takes ages for the screen to pop up so still dont do it)
maybe people just dont know???
the instructions arent clear (it took me ages to notice the dont forget to select which message u are replying too)
how about numbering the posts and then u could simply state which number u are replying to
maybe people just dont know???
the instructions arent clear (it took me ages to notice the dont forget to select which message u are replying too)
how about numbering the posts and then u could simply state which number u are replying to
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: longmanshort on 14 January, 2004, 06:59:29 AM
Post by: longmanshort on 14 January, 2004, 06:59:29 AM
What? you didn't think all that animosity was real, did you?!?
longmanshort hurridly tries to cancel that contract killer ...
longmanshort hurridly tries to cancel that contract killer ...
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: esoteric ed on 14 January, 2004, 08:10:33 AM
Post by: esoteric ed on 14 January, 2004, 08:10:33 AM
"people posting corpses" :-p
(my fault for typing too fast, a s u s u a l)
they were often via Rotten.com :-0
Ed
(my fault for typing too fast, a s u s u a l)
they were often via Rotten.com :-0
Ed
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Steamboy on 14 January, 2004, 01:41:21 PM
Post by: Steamboy on 14 January, 2004, 01:41:21 PM
I've noticed I have the touch of death for threads, expect to see this one drop very rapidly now I've posted on it. I'm very new to all this board malarky and am not sure if I've offended anybody, if I have I'm sorry, dont agree with thread moderating, am I the only person in the world who doesn't like licorice?
Cu Krestel touch of death
Cu Krestel touch of death
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: stront692 on 14 January, 2004, 02:00:19 PM
Post by: stront692 on 14 January, 2004, 02:00:19 PM
i dont like liquorice either (except the red stuff, and on those odd occasions when u can find it yellow and green)
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Trout on 14 January, 2004, 03:15:07 PM
Post by: Trout on 14 January, 2004, 03:15:07 PM
Fools!
Licorice is confectionery nirvana!
Some conclusions can vary according to opinions, but this one in inescapable.
I don't know why I associate with such a bunch of idiots.
- Trout
Licorice is confectionery nirvana!
Some conclusions can vary according to opinions, but this one in inescapable.
I don't know why I associate with such a bunch of idiots.
- Trout
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Dudley on 14 January, 2004, 03:17:37 PM
Post by: Dudley on 14 January, 2004, 03:17:37 PM
Nor do we, Trouty, nor do we...
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Matt Timson on 14 January, 2004, 04:39:31 PM
Post by: Matt Timson on 14 January, 2004, 04:39:31 PM
I can't even *begin* to tell you how much I hate licorice. I'm not even entirely sure that's how you spell it.
Foul, *FOUL* stuff...
Foul, *FOUL* stuff...
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Mikey on 14 January, 2004, 04:53:32 PM
Post by: Mikey on 14 January, 2004, 04:53:32 PM
You know what I hate?When you get midget gems and the black ones aren't tasty and delish blackcurranty flavour,but damn liquorice!
Eyebrows has it right-*foul* stuff.Only eldsters like it because sugar wasn't invented when they were wee
H
Eyebrows has it right-*foul* stuff.Only eldsters like it because sugar wasn't invented when they were wee
H
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Matt Timson on 14 January, 2004, 05:10:34 PM
Post by: Matt Timson on 14 January, 2004, 05:10:34 PM
I know of and feel your pain. I never eat the black ones now- just in case.
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Trout on 14 January, 2004, 05:15:29 PM
Post by: Trout on 14 January, 2004, 05:15:29 PM
Argh!
Begone, ye foul licorice-hating spawn of the devil himself!
This is good fun. On-topic? Bollocks.
- Trout
Begone, ye foul licorice-hating spawn of the devil himself!
This is good fun. On-topic? Bollocks.
- Trout
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Oddboy on 14 January, 2004, 05:17:53 PM
Post by: Oddboy on 14 January, 2004, 05:17:53 PM
You are a right-royal fool O Fishy One if you believe licorice to be a nice & tasty munchable.
They are as *evil* as you yourself.
They are as *evil* as you yourself.
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Slippery PD on 14 January, 2004, 05:20:09 PM
Post by: Slippery PD on 14 January, 2004, 05:20:09 PM
Black midget gems, Licorice, nuts covered in chocolate, raisins or sultanas covered in chocolate these are a few of my sweet hates......
Yer Off topic Slips
Yer Off topic Slips
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Trout on 14 January, 2004, 05:26:19 PM
Post by: Trout on 14 January, 2004, 05:26:19 PM
Chocolate nuts and raisins are also delicious.
I have decreed it.
- Trout
I have decreed it.
- Trout
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Krustabi on 14 January, 2004, 05:27:20 PM
Post by: Krustabi on 14 January, 2004, 05:27:20 PM
Licorice FUCKING ROCKS, but only if it is used in conjunction with other sugary stuff. On it's own it's either too bland or too bitter.
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Dudley on 14 January, 2004, 05:35:43 PM
Post by: Dudley on 14 January, 2004, 05:35:43 PM
Banana chips covered in hard yoghurt? Why?
...Dudley
(abandoning all hope of on-topicality)
...Dudley
(abandoning all hope of on-topicality)
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Krustabi on 14 January, 2004, 05:42:05 PM
Post by: Krustabi on 14 January, 2004, 05:42:05 PM
Does anyone know of any cheapo Chocolate Orange clones? Chocolate Orange is infinitely great, but costs far, far too much.
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Matt Timson on 14 January, 2004, 05:49:10 PM
Post by: Matt Timson on 14 January, 2004, 05:49:10 PM
I must grudgingly concede(SP?) that chocolate covered nuts and raisins are indeed delicious...
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Slippery PD on 14 January, 2004, 05:51:57 PM
Post by: Slippery PD on 14 January, 2004, 05:51:57 PM
Yes Asdas own brand is actually better then Terry's, much better.
Yer Slips
Yer Slips
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Krustabi on 14 January, 2004, 05:54:36 PM
Post by: Krustabi on 14 January, 2004, 05:54:36 PM
Asda eh....
Chink chink!
Chink chink!
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Mr C on 14 January, 2004, 05:57:44 PM
Post by: Mr C on 14 January, 2004, 05:57:44 PM
Dudley! Krusty means Chink! Chink! as in the ASDA averts where ugly people pat their fat arses, NOT in any offensive, racist context!!
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Matt Timson on 14 January, 2004, 06:04:37 PM
Post by: Matt Timson on 14 January, 2004, 06:04:37 PM
Are you actually going to let him get away with that, Dud?!?
;)
;)
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Art on 14 January, 2004, 06:06:39 PM
Post by: Art on 14 January, 2004, 06:06:39 PM
"Black midget gems"?!?!?!?!
Burn him!
Burn him!
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Dudley on 14 January, 2004, 06:16:49 PM
Post by: Dudley on 14 January, 2004, 06:16:49 PM
How can I fight the big green clown? My powers are useless...
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Krustabi on 14 January, 2004, 06:22:36 PM
Post by: Krustabi on 14 January, 2004, 06:22:36 PM
All that stand in my way will burn. Trout's next.
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Trout on 14 January, 2004, 07:16:00 PM
Post by: Trout on 14 January, 2004, 07:16:00 PM
Don't take me on, Krust-covered teen.
The last person who tried was Bou, and she's been left a frail, shattered wreck.
Who smells a bit iffy.
How did we get off-topic again?
We were talking about sweets.
- Trout
The last person who tried was Bou, and she's been left a frail, shattered wreck.
Who smells a bit iffy.
How did we get off-topic again?
We were talking about sweets.
- Trout
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Oddboy on 14 January, 2004, 07:44:04 PM
Post by: Oddboy on 14 January, 2004, 07:44:04 PM
I'm not so fond of sweets really.
Now bisuits - they're great.
Had some Hobnobs last night.
Now bisuits - they're great.
Had some Hobnobs last night.
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Proudhuff on 14 January, 2004, 08:31:51 PM
Post by: Proudhuff on 14 January, 2004, 08:31:51 PM
Back on topic here the picture of moderating...
Jock joke!
Jock joke!
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Trout on 14 January, 2004, 09:28:05 PM
Post by: Trout on 14 January, 2004, 09:28:05 PM
Oh dear.
Trust me, non-Scots. You don't want that one translated.
- Trout
Trust me, non-Scots. You don't want that one translated.
- Trout
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Queen Firey-Bou on 15 January, 2004, 01:13:15 AM
Post by: Queen Firey-Bou on 15 January, 2004, 01:13:15 AM
krusti .... tut next time clarity yourself man, like " do do do do dooo chink chink "
Trout? The iffy smell comes from that part time work down at the fish farm, 'harvesting' fish.*
* thats a wee white lie, but i do work next to one.
Trout? The iffy smell comes from that part time work down at the fish farm, 'harvesting' fish.*
* thats a wee white lie, but i do work next to one.
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Tanky on 15 January, 2004, 01:31:17 AM
Post by: Tanky on 15 January, 2004, 01:31:17 AM
jus popped back to say......
JELLY BELLY JELLY BEANS KICK ASS!
and likrish allsorts don't on account of those bobbly blue things.
ta ra then
JELLY BELLY JELLY BEANS KICK ASS!
and likrish allsorts don't on account of those bobbly blue things.
ta ra then
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Queen Firey-Bou on 15 January, 2004, 02:18:53 AM
Post by: Queen Firey-Bou on 15 January, 2004, 02:18:53 AM
yay girl ! i'll eat the bobbly blue bits for ye then... what a team !
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Proudhuff on 16 January, 2004, 06:55:02 PM
Post by: Proudhuff on 16 January, 2004, 06:55:02 PM
>>i'll eat the bobbly blue bits for ye!
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Krustabi on 16 January, 2004, 07:01:24 PM
Post by: Krustabi on 16 January, 2004, 07:01:24 PM
The most disappointing biscuit experience I ever had were the Co-op's Fudge Brownie's. So very, very disappointing...
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Art on 16 January, 2004, 07:13:24 PM
Post by: Art on 16 January, 2004, 07:13:24 PM
In the States, huge jars of Jelly Belly jelly beans are so cheap as to be practically free. Unfortunately it means that I gorged myself on the things and now can?t satnd the sight of them.
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Dudley on 02 February, 2004, 09:42:02 PM
Post by: Dudley on 02 February, 2004, 09:42:02 PM
Doesn't seem like such a bad idea now, does it?
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Mr D on 02 February, 2004, 09:46:00 PM
Post by: Mr D on 02 February, 2004, 09:46:00 PM
I must admit that several recent threads have made me go 'SHHHHH' over and over...
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: paulvonscott on 02 February, 2004, 10:00:22 PM
Post by: paulvonscott on 02 February, 2004, 10:00:22 PM
I think where thread moderating would be useful is debates. We all enjoy them in theory, but they often turn bad.
The problem with the Strontium Dog thread is that from the start it was a statement, followed by an open letter which meant that debate was random and chaotic and had no focus or point. I literally couldn't see through the mass of contradictary posts and it seemed for the most part silly gibberish. A few people nailed down exactly what they were saying but even they were hampered by the amorphous rambling debate.
The Sinister Dexter one, could have been much better if the debate had actually centred around the question posted and not some various vague unconnected opinions. Nobody has actually answered the question posted.
A moderator would be extremely useful for debate style threads, where discussions could be kept on topic, relevant, accurate, impersonal. For instance there were probably enough questions in the SD one raised for ten seperate debates.
Where I don't think we need a moderator for is behaviour. This message board is generally better behaved than most. When things become extreme, like ***** the administrator dishes out suitable punishment. It's only ever come to that once.
The problem with the Strontium Dog thread is that from the start it was a statement, followed by an open letter which meant that debate was random and chaotic and had no focus or point. I literally couldn't see through the mass of contradictary posts and it seemed for the most part silly gibberish. A few people nailed down exactly what they were saying but even they were hampered by the amorphous rambling debate.
The Sinister Dexter one, could have been much better if the debate had actually centred around the question posted and not some various vague unconnected opinions. Nobody has actually answered the question posted.
A moderator would be extremely useful for debate style threads, where discussions could be kept on topic, relevant, accurate, impersonal. For instance there were probably enough questions in the SD one raised for ten seperate debates.
Where I don't think we need a moderator for is behaviour. This message board is generally better behaved than most. When things become extreme, like ***** the administrator dishes out suitable punishment. It's only ever come to that once.
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Dudley on 02 February, 2004, 10:04:40 PM
Post by: Dudley on 02 February, 2004, 10:04:40 PM
But the whole point in this idea is not to have a single moderator - so in this case rc would have been the moderator of his own thread and kept it on-topic himself.
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Matt Timson on 02 February, 2004, 11:02:18 PM
Post by: Matt Timson on 02 February, 2004, 11:02:18 PM
Sorry Dud- but I think RC's own posting style is an excellent example of why he'd make a piss poor moderator of his own thread.
Eventually, he'd lose out. I can't see very many people bothering to debate on any thread that he'd started. Not if they knew that he had the power of veto over what was being said and could pull their posts at any time.
Be told, Dud! It won't work!
Eventually, he'd lose out. I can't see very many people bothering to debate on any thread that he'd started. Not if they knew that he had the power of veto over what was being said and could pull their posts at any time.
Be told, Dud! It won't work!
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: rc on 02 February, 2004, 11:44:36 PM
Post by: rc on 02 February, 2004, 11:44:36 PM
See that would be the difference, now wouldn't it?
You wouldn't catch me censoring or picking and choosing posts on my own thread - what on earth would be the point of that?
More accusations! I don't know... :)
There seems a lot of paranoia going about and some fragile egos not liking my posts, but I really do not see the problem - if you cannot respond to a valid point [i.e. "hey, this is good!" or "hey, this is worrying!"] without feeling personally insulted when your viewpoint is challenged or mine is championed then mabye you should not be posting at all.
As for threads going off on tangents, I think I've said this elsewhere but is it not human nature to open new doors of discussion once a subject gets going and strong viewpoints emerge and ignite opposing opinions?
You wouldn't catch me censoring or picking and choosing posts on my own thread - what on earth would be the point of that?
More accusations! I don't know... :)
There seems a lot of paranoia going about and some fragile egos not liking my posts, but I really do not see the problem - if you cannot respond to a valid point [i.e. "hey, this is good!" or "hey, this is worrying!"] without feeling personally insulted when your viewpoint is challenged or mine is championed then mabye you should not be posting at all.
As for threads going off on tangents, I think I've said this elsewhere but is it not human nature to open new doors of discussion once a subject gets going and strong viewpoints emerge and ignite opposing opinions?
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Proudhuff on 03 February, 2004, 12:23:02 AM
Post by: Proudhuff on 03 February, 2004, 12:23:02 AM
NAIL SOME SENSE INTO EM!!!
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: Oddboy on 03 February, 2004, 03:18:48 PM
Post by: Oddboy on 03 February, 2004, 03:18:48 PM
rc does have a rather inflamatory style to his posts, but I really don't think it's to be spiteful, more to stir up a discussion about 2000AD (which is what we're all here for) I agree with some things rc says, and don't with others - same as I do with pretty much everyone.
The two main discussion threads about SD & SD (sheesh 2000AD get some new initials!) have been quite mired with personal attacks as well as miandering & unclear points, but there has also been some good discussion on them.
I think any moderation of the board should be done officially by Wake or other Rebellion staff.
However, I think that is something that will rarely be needed.
(On the off-chance that there is the poverbial sheep-in-wolf's-clothing sneaking back on the board; well that's fine as long as he can keep up the pretence & not give himself away - which, as he's pretty much proved he can't, isn't likely to happen.)
The two main discussion threads about SD & SD (sheesh 2000AD get some new initials!) have been quite mired with personal attacks as well as miandering & unclear points, but there has also been some good discussion on them.
I think any moderation of the board should be done officially by Wake or other Rebellion staff.
However, I think that is something that will rarely be needed.
(On the off-chance that there is the poverbial sheep-in-wolf's-clothing sneaking back on the board; well that's fine as long as he can keep up the pretence & not give himself away - which, as he's pretty much proved he can't, isn't likely to happen.)
Title: Re: Thread moderating
Post by: rc on 04 February, 2004, 12:02:45 AM
Post by: rc on 04 February, 2004, 12:02:45 AM
Thanks, Oddboy.
Troll-ism obviously is running deep in here, but I'm not guilty.
It is rather difficult to remember exactly where I am on some of these threads when also dealing with flak, but I do try to stay on the subject.
Cheers,
Scoj-- er! I mean rc
Troll-ism obviously is running deep in here, but I'm not guilty.
It is rather difficult to remember exactly where I am on some of these threads when also dealing with flak, but I do try to stay on the subject.
Cheers,
Scoj-- er! I mean rc