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Title: "I'm a stickler"
Post by: Trout on 18 June, 2004, 07:18:12 PM
Thinking of Dredd's great lines, and the Pit, I've had this in mind the last day or two, and it's a bit of a Friday thread starter.

"My name is Dredd. I'm a stickler."

What are you a stickler for?

Personally, I don't let anyone even open any comic I've not yet read, as I like it "fresh."

I also like to keep my house tidy.

Professionally, there are lots of things that I tell off less senior people for, especially in their writing.

I hate the use of weak words, especially "recently," as it means absolutely bugger all and tells the reader nothing.

I also get the piss taken out of me in the office for objecting to someone being called "well-known" in the paper.
If he's well-known, why do you have to bother saying so? :-)

Anyway, pedants, anal retentives and uptight pains-in-the-neck - are you sticklers?

- Trout
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Post by: Slippery PD on 18 June, 2004, 07:22:44 PM
Oh god!  without becoming really dull, Im a stickler at work for PC and server security.  It really easy to do, but mos administrators are lazy and cant be bothered.  I have to fix it...  Aaarrrrrgggghhhh

Lazy typing in email.  Use punctuation, capitals, its not that difficult.  Its a little different on messgae boards and chat.  But I hate it in email....

Slips
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Post by: Banners on 18 June, 2004, 07:33:30 PM
Using an apostrophes in "it's".

M@
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Post by: Banners on 18 June, 2004, 07:34:25 PM
And unnecessary use of the letter "s" after 'apostrophe'.

;-)

M@
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Post by: Mr C on 18 June, 2004, 07:38:01 PM
People who waste time by going to file and then exit instead of hitting the X up top MUST be corrected at EVERY opportunity.

My little sister looking at my Prog of a Monday morning just as I'm making my breakfast ALSO must be reminded that a man's comic is sacred.
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Post by: Mr C on 18 June, 2004, 07:40:05 PM
Oh, and people who say Sconn instead of Scone must be corrected.

How do you pronounce Cone? Now stick an S on the front. See? S-cone. Not S-Conn
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Post by: James on 18 June, 2004, 07:41:08 PM
It's.

God I do that. And I hate it when innapropriate apostrophes are used.

Won't do it anymore though. Oh no.
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Post by: Trout on 18 June, 2004, 07:41:12 PM
Except when you're talking about the place Scone, which is a village near here.

It's pronounced "Scoon".

:-)

- Trout
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Post by: Slippery PD on 18 June, 2004, 07:46:29 PM
Ach no.  Thats the famous southern english vowel shift we northerners pronounce it Sconn, you call it scone...

Slips
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Post by: Conexus on 18 June, 2004, 07:48:19 PM
I'm a stickler for these things (') I saw a sign today saying "footballs coming home" All I wondered was just how may spheres used in the ever popular game were being brought back to their place of origin or where they live.  
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Post by: Pyroxian on 18 June, 2004, 08:11:14 PM
No, no, no - it's scone when it's on the plate, but after you've eaten it, it's sconn...

    Steve
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Post by: House of Usher on 18 June, 2004, 08:19:20 PM
I suppose I'm a stickler for correct grammar, spelling and pronunciation. But am I a stickler if I notice things but don't try to get them corrected? I noticed a sign in a local charity shop "no monie's are kept overnight in this shop".

One thing than annoys me is when newsreaders in particular use a noun in the singular followed by a verb in the plural, e.g. "the House (singular) of Lords (plural) are (incorrect) debating a contoversial bill..."

Another is where people think it's always "you and I" because it's posher than "you and me", even when it's wrong. They also seem to think that "you and me" is always wrong.

Examples: "Brian will come to school with you and me" (correct).
"Brian will come to school with you and I" (incorrect).
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Post by: Banners on 18 June, 2004, 08:21:54 PM
The incorrect use of "literally", especially on Radio FiveLive. Someone this morning was being described as out of breath, and they said they were "literally cut off at the knees"...!?!

M@
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Post by: House of Usher on 18 June, 2004, 08:22:52 PM
f*** !!! That should read 'punctuation'. Not bloody pronunciation. I don't give a toss how things are pronounced (although I may snigger at 'nucular' when George Bush says it).

Anyway, I'm not certain the scone controversy is just a north/south thing. In the south it rhymes with 'gone' if your posh, and 'bone' if you're not.
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Post by: JamieB on 18 June, 2004, 08:31:50 PM
Not a bad idea, in Heskey's case at least - shouldn't affect his on-pitch workrate much.

J-Bo-hanging's-too-good-for-the-England-team-1
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Post by: House of Usher on 18 June, 2004, 08:39:46 PM
Stickler thread derailed by football guff cross-posting invasion?
Title: Re: "I'm a stickler"
Post by: Wils on 18 June, 2004, 08:44:49 PM
I hate people who say 'Cliff Richards' and 'Trivial Pursuits'. They don't have esses on the end, you muppets.

I also hate the way "you're" is constantly written  as "your" by people on the web.


Like Logan's seven links in a badge chain; five vertical bars in the respirator is the correct amount for me.


Scone's pronounced 'skonn', by the way. It should only be pronounced 'skone' if you're pushing up the end of your nose with a finger (so you look like Frances de la Tour) and putting on a comedy toff voice.
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Post by: Conexus on 18 June, 2004, 08:50:26 PM
With pronunciation there are no rights and wrongs, anyone who thinks there are is either a snob (hating "Common" prononciation) or an anti-snob ( hating middle and or upper class prononciation)
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Post by: House of Usher on 18 June, 2004, 08:52:28 PM
"Would you like a sconn, Mr. Rigsby?"

"A skone? That's very kind of you, Mrs. Jones. I think perhaps John Majors might like one too."

(by all means reverse pronunciations of scone if you will, Wils.)
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Post by: Bico on 18 June, 2004, 08:52:58 PM
I get really pissed off with those pseudo-Irish pricks who infest London bars like a plague, because I used to be one.  They piss off from "the home country" and spend their time reinforcing the stereotype of Irishmen as bull-necked, pig ignorant, racist, alcoholic, folk singing wife beaters.  I tried this routine back in '98 when I worked as a brickie outside Tunbridge Wells, and the weekly routine consisted of work, pub, sleep, work, pub, sleep, work, pub, sleep, until the weekend, when it became pub, sleep, pub, sleep, work.  I finally called it a day after nine months of this, when everyone I knew became rabid golfers- for reasons that escape me to this day.
It's been said that you can only be Irish abroad, and that certainly seems to be true from my experiance, because if I'd come out with the kind of racist, homophobic shite here in Northern Murphyville that my mates came out with in London -loudly, frequently and publicly- I'd get dirty looks at best, and a beating at worst.

Ahem.

Okay, that's more of a hate than a stickler issue, but one thing that I'm a stickler for is LEARNING THE NOTES IF YOU PLAY BASS IN A BAND.  It's the easiest instrument in the world to play, yet there are people who get paid to stand in bars covering cock-rock songs by playing the third string all night.  There's no excuse for it.  It takes five minutes TOPS to learn a bass riff, after that, it's just a matter of getting the timing right.  For Christ's sake, 'Blitzkrieg Bop' has FOUR notes over TWO strings, and the bastards can't even play THAT.

Oh, and wankers who think things like indicators, speed limits and zebra crossings are optional, on account of them being the only people on the roads that "know how to drive right, hi."

Fuckwits.
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Post by: Wils on 18 June, 2004, 09:00:15 PM
It takes five minutes TOPS to learn a bass riff

It'd take a little longer than five minutes to learn the bass line for Dead Goon by Mr Bungle. It's a bastard. :)

Another favourite bass line of mine is The Lemon Song by Zeppelin.
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Post by: House of Usher on 18 June, 2004, 09:12:47 PM
My girlfriend's a stickler for only using filtered water. We haven't got round to replacing the lead water pipes in our house yet, so we filter all the water we drink or use for cooking.

But sometimes when I'm washing vegetables I can't be bothered, so I just run them under the tap, and then get told off.
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Post by: Bico on 18 June, 2004, 09:13:31 PM
If it takes you longer than five minutes to learn the bass riffs to cock-rock monstrosities like 'how you remind me'(spit!), then you're in trouble.

Personal favourite bass line ever is Moby Dick.  The 1970's in a nutshell, and you can get yourself a pint while your drummer inevitably embarrasses himself (and by extension, the band) when he tries to nail Bonham's solo.
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Post by: Mikey on 18 June, 2004, 09:21:55 PM
A clean and shiny bathroom.Oh,yes.

M
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Post by: Matt Timson on 18 June, 2004, 09:28:49 PM
'Skonn' and 'scone'.  God, this one has bloody annoyed me for years.  We always said 'scone' in our house and I never thought anything of it until my then g/f told me that it was the posh way of saying it.  "Scoooone", she would say in a pseudo snooty voice.  "SkHhonn", I would reply in the same pseudo snooty voice, proving that either way could be made to sound posh if you put your mind to it.

What really used to piss me off was that her mum really *was* the snootiest cow ever.  Needless to say, she said 'skonn' as well...

Now then, if a bloke with a thick Brummie accent says 'scown', is he posh?  Either way, it's right up there with bath, grass and glass as far as I'm concerned...

All that aside- Women in bars that ask for "two halves of lagers and limes".  NO!  It's two halves of lager and lime, you *stupid* COW!
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Post by: Slippery PD on 18 June, 2004, 09:56:24 PM
You mean your not a stickler for a troll free board then?  :)

Slips
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Post by: Generally Contrary on 18 June, 2004, 09:56:49 PM
Pronunciation?  Well, The North York Moors, are Moo-ers, not Mores.  And I am poo-er, not pore.
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Post by: Tweak72 on 18 June, 2004, 10:01:03 PM
people who bitch about correct puntuation and spelling lololol.
BUT SEROUSLY
people who say the letter "H" "ay-ch" as "huh-ay-ch"
you know who you are YOUR ON THE LIST! YOU HEAR ME??!! YOU. ON. THE. LIST!
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Post by: Wils on 18 June, 2004, 10:07:03 PM
We always said 'scone' in our house

I bet you say "onvellope" and call your parents "Mama" and "Papa" as well, don't you? ;)
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Post by: Pyroxian on 18 June, 2004, 10:35:42 PM
People who call lego 'legos'...

So, is it bastard or barstard?

    Steve
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Post by: Matt Timson on 18 June, 2004, 10:37:08 PM
Bah!  The trolls can do what they like so long as they don't follow *me* around from thread to thread, too afraid to declare their love for me and turning to impotent, outraged fury at every available opportunity instead...

;)

No Wils.  We use envelopes in this house.  Now go and see Mater and Pater about some skonns, you bastard...

;)
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Post by: House of Usher on 18 June, 2004, 10:38:46 PM
You spelled it right first time, Pyroxian.

But coming from the South East, I'd pronounce it "baahh - sterd".
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Post by: Conexus on 18 June, 2004, 10:39:26 PM
" "We always said 'scone' in our house"

I bet you say "onvellope" and call your parents "Mama" and "Papa" as well, don't you? ;)"

Pronounciation Facist!

p.s I pronounce H as hatech- you're a pronounciation fascist too mr.Tweak !
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Post by: Wils on 18 June, 2004, 10:40:58 PM
There are also some words that I'm *sure* have changed their pronunciation since I was a kid.

'Ness-Lay' was "Nessles' and 'noo-garr' was 'nugget'.

I'm sure there's more as well.
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Post by: Wils on 18 June, 2004, 10:43:25 PM
Pronounciation Facist!

Nope...DISCO HITLER!
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Post by: Wils on 18 June, 2004, 10:48:35 PM
Pronounciation Facist!

You've spelt both of these words wrong, by the way. ;)
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Post by: Matt Timson on 18 June, 2004, 10:50:20 PM
Tsss... Arthur was right- you *will* be trotting that picture out at the drop of a hat for the rest of your life...

As for Nestle being pronounced 'nessels' many moons ago- you are correct, Wilson.

For once.

:)
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Post by: Wils on 18 June, 2004, 10:54:10 PM
I'll never catch up with the number of times his Liberal Stalin pic has been posted, though.

You're one to talk, though. "Oh look! It's the gorilla in a fez...again." ;)
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Post by: Trout on 18 June, 2004, 11:06:16 PM
I love to spread dissent everywhere I go....

:-p

- Trout
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Post by: Matt Timson on 18 June, 2004, 11:36:42 PM
"Oh look! It's the gorilla in a fez...again."

What?  All of twice?  Pff- away with your crappy photoshopped pictures before I make some of my own...

;)
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Post by: Dudley on 19 June, 2004, 04:06:07 AM
I've just discovered my moment where I go from being slapdash and happy-go-lucky to total stickler.  Now that I cycle to work (and even for fun sometimes), I have found a burning hatred deep within me.

Is it for car drivers?  No, it's been 7 weeks and so far they've been uniformly polite.  Bus drivers?  Wierdly, and despite their frequent attempts to actually KILL me, I've grown to love them, the clumsy dangerous idiots.

No, it's for my fellow bike riders.  LOOK, IDIOTS, HERE'S SOME SIMPLE RULES FOR YOU...

1) When the light goes red it means STOP.  Not "overtake and kill a granny"

2) Overtaking on the left-hand side is really not bright.

3) Weaving among cars at speed doesn't make you look cool.  Although, there is the bonus that it may soon make you look dead.

4) See those lever things?  Those are your BRAKES.  Amazingly, they have a function.

5) Ringing your bell because someone's not going as fast as you want them to is RUDE and STUPID.

6) Yes, you too need to stop at zebra crossings.

7) No, your metal contraption going at 95 miles n hour does NOT belong on the pavement.

Car drivers of the world, who actually have to put up with these tits trying to get you to execute them...I salute you.
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Post by: Queen Firey-Bou on 19 June, 2004, 05:35:22 AM
cripes ! i'm a lot of sticklers ! despite my own apauling spelling, i get narked at to instead of too & of & off.

my house is a funking chaos zone full of hyenas & stink & mess, BUt, i hate crummy sticky surfaces. when visiting other peoples i compulsively have to wipe around their sinks etc when theyre not looking, ug ! gunk encrusted in the edges of surfaces? can't they see it ? luckily this compulsion makes me a good little worker...

sloppy edges in the garden... its all about crisp edges fools ! the lawn goes there, the flowers go there, the footpaths there... keep the edges crisp & all weedy unmowed chaos is forgiven....

kids being polite...i'll correct total strangers ! "ahem say please & don't be rude to your mother"

Dogs being obedient & calm...Its not funking difficult ! just ask them to sit & tickle their ears & they go instantly calm, stupid funking pet owners.

throws on sofas being neat... whats the point on sitting down on a scrunched up mess? if i wanted to see an ancient threadbare sofa from skip-ville would i put the funking throw on it ? put it neat for funks sake!

etec tec tec etc ad infinitum....

oo oo one thats rilly rilly annoying....people talking about personal experience saying "you" instead of "me" or "i", "Its like when you get abducted by aliens & your head falls off you feel somewhat scared" ... !! NO I funking don't YOU do not Me twat ! don't try & distance yourself from your funking emotions by pretending its someone elses experience. yeah you get really annoyed by that.

newsreaders & tele presenters that blaspheme pointlessly... er helloooo , you are actually insulting people? "gosh", "blimey"= universally non offensive, "oh God" offends people i know.

blahblahblah
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Post by: Floyd-the-k on 19 June, 2004, 05:48:19 AM
Mr C, by that logic, we should say through `thruff`. How do you pronounce Rough? Now take away the R and stick a th on the front. See Th-rough (thruff). There is no necessary connection between the way we pronounce cone and the way we pronounce scone.
  I think that`s down to usage - what you grew up using is right.

I`m a stickler for traffic rules. THis is a shame,as I live in a town where people see a red light as a warning to get a move on.
  I too am a stickler about misplaced apostrophes.

yours stroppily, wishing he had some sconns or scohns here now.
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Post by: Queen Firey-Bou on 19 June, 2004, 06:03:29 AM
mmmm 4 fruit or plain scons, ?1.20 , freshly delivered daily. or how about some pineapple fancies for ?1.40 ?

i like neatly opened envelopes ( not Aunvelopes ), gotta be opened with a nice sharp knife.

Nice Knives, gotta be sharp.

do you think we get more sticklerish as we get older?
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Post by: ESCUBRIA on 19 June, 2004, 06:25:07 AM
A clean tea mug free from the stains of tannin.
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Post by: Max Kon on 19 June, 2004, 06:58:04 AM
bou: they should say 'one' rather than 'you', 'me' or 'I'.
 eg. "Its like when one gets abducted by aliens & one's head falls off, one feels somewhat scared"
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Post by: Noisybast on 19 June, 2004, 03:15:52 PM
I'm a stickler for people not using tecnical jargon incorrectly. I hate it when people use terms they don't understand to describe an unrelated concept. I don't care whether you are a total beginner or Linus Torvalds. Similarly, I don't care how you express the details of the fault, as long as it's accurate.

Example:
Idiot: "I've just rebooted my computer, and now I can't connect to the internet."
Me: "Did you get any error messages before rebooting?"
Idiot: "No, I just put the 'system reboot' CD in..."
Me: < sigh... >

If you don't know what "Reboot" means, then just tell me what you actuially did. Don't use the first vaguely technical word or phrase that pops into your head. It doesn't make you sound like you know what you're talking about - quite the opposite.
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Post by: Noisybast on 19 June, 2004, 03:16:54 PM
As you can see, I'm not so much a stickler for the correct application of HTML tags...
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Post by: Floyd-the-k on 19 June, 2004, 04:34:15 PM
by the way, Dudley, bycycles do belong on the pavement. It just requires a bit of a culture shift, ie bike riders would have to get used to going much slower and being very careful and pedestrians would have to get used to not suddenly moving across the pavement and moving (or at least looking out) when they hear a bell.

yours from cyclist`s heaven
   
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Post by: Richmond Clements on 19 June, 2004, 04:48:38 PM
People folding down the corner of a book to mark where they've stopped reading, or worse, leaving the book open and face down.
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Post by: petemaskreplica on 20 June, 2004, 06:56:32 AM
Politicians who talk about "putting the 'Great' back into Great Britain". It's called Great Britain because it's the largest of the British Isles, it's nothing to do with this nation's standing in the world. Got that?
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Post by: Queen Firey-Bou on 20 June, 2004, 08:48:53 PM
there was an advert ways back that talked about something like...

"throughout the globe/earth"  eh ?!? so product A appeals to the denizens of the earths core as well then ?
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Post by: Conexus on 21 June, 2004, 01:32:28 AM
"Politicians who talk about "putting the 'Great' back into Great Britain". It's called Great Britain because it's the largest of the British Isles, it's nothing to do with this nation's standing in the world. Got that?"

Actualy they are even wronger than you think Great Britain is the name of the United Kingdom as it currently stands, And Ireland. Since Ireland (well most of it) is no longer part of the UK the term Great Britain no longer applies.  
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Post by: petemaskreplica on 21 June, 2004, 07:35:02 AM
ah, you're wrong there, Great Britain is the largest island of the British Isles, Ireland is the second biggest, the political union in which we live is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. "Great Britain" is purely a geographical term.

pedantmaskreplica ;)
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Post by: Conexus on 21 June, 2004, 04:30:29 PM
Searched on the net, the person that told me that is a liar, damn him!
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Post by: CraveNoir on 21 June, 2004, 04:51:40 PM
Putting my hand over my mouth when I cough or yawn in public.

Not turning my front wheels while waiting to make a right turn in case I get shunted in the back and straight into oncoming traffic.

I'm an apostrophe fascist probably because I've always known how to use them correctly unlike some other elements of punctuation and grammer. I'm more annoyed when people use of instead of have. Some people here do it. Stop fecking doing it!
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Post by: Dudley on 21 June, 2004, 05:00:09 PM
I'm a stickler for punctuation in proper latters, essays, business reports, etc.

But here I just take them as the equivalent of an accent.  Some people here have an almost hysterically RP "accent" for me because they write very well.  Others have the equivalent of broad Northumberland or deep Glasgow accents.  It's all just part of the great variety of life.
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Post by: Oddboy on 21 June, 2004, 06:41:10 PM
So Pete - does that mean that the Isle of Wight *isn't* in Great Britain, being a separate island?
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Post by: Bico on 22 June, 2004, 01:26:20 AM
one thing I absolutely won't have under any circumstances is the word 'craic' in print (ie-"a night's craic".  If I ever see that in any book or article, I stop reading and never go back.  There is no such word.  Anyone who tries to say different is a pretentious arsehole.
'Crack' a funny joke.
'Crack' a smile.
'Crack' the town wide open.
It's an Irish colloqualism, and as such, doesn't have any formal English language spelling, nor does it need one, so stop pretending it does.
When Scottish people say "a piece" in reference to a bit of bread, it isn't spelt "peec", is it?
Mind you, I might be making a tool of myself and it's actually from some latin word or other, but I'll go out on a limb with the whole pretentious arsehole angle, thanks, because, like I said, I really don't like to see it under any circumstance.
The word 'feck', I am indifferent to.
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Post by: Richmond Clements on 22 June, 2004, 01:30:20 AM
I agree with you totally on that one Boy.
I'm from 'The North' and use the word all the time, but when I see it written down...GGggrrrrrr.
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Post by: Queen Firey-Bou on 22 June, 2004, 03:50:09 AM
bugger, i was about to argue with you on that one, But i can't find it in any of my gaelic dictionaries, my juvey who speaks gaelic tells me its not gaelic but slang...
i'll probly see a native speaker tomorro & can ask them, i was convinced it was as gaelic as ceilidh.. which i hate spelled kayley, or other such shite. problem with natice gaelic speakers is mosta them can't write n spell it....
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Post by: Richmond Clements on 22 June, 2004, 04:09:19 AM
You know what really gets on my wick?

'Union Jack'.
It's not called the Union Jack, you ignorant twat! How can you claim to be patriotic and not know what your bloody flag is called!
It is a Union Flag and only called the 'Jack' when it is flown from a ship.
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Post by: Generally Contrary on 22 June, 2004, 05:13:27 AM
Oh, I don't know.  I think that it is perfectly possible to be ignorant and patriotic.  I'm not saying that it is a requirement, mind, but nor, even with that comment, do I make that statement merely in jest.  After all, substantial knowledge of a country's history or culture does not make one patriotic, simply well-read.  An ignorant person's patriotism may rest of poor-foundations, but if we imagine an altruist who founded their convictions on false information, we do not find ourselves denying that person the virtue of altruism.  

I would go as far to say that all patriotism rests on false foundations.
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Post by: Generally Contrary on 22 June, 2004, 05:15:33 AM
The misuse of literally.

From the England vs. Croatia build-up earlier today (not MoTD), 'If England play for the draw it will literally be suicide.'
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Post by: Milo on 22 June, 2004, 07:25:16 AM
= It's called Great Britain because it's the largest of the British Isles, it's nothing to do with this nation's standing in the world. Got that? =


Don't you think Britain is Great ?

That is the sentiment behind the politicians' statements.... and hardly a bad one to promote.

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Post by: Cthulouis on 22 June, 2004, 11:56:32 PM
as far as the scone scohne argument goes, you say Ktuhlu, i say Cthulhu, we both know its really pronounced as some sort of flem filled cough unpronounceable by human tounge
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Post by: Thread Zero on 23 June, 2004, 01:16:10 AM
I keep thinking this is the Striker thread...
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Post by: Conexus on 23 June, 2004, 01:45:00 AM
"'Union Jack'.
It's not called the Union Jack, you ignorant twat! "

I know it's supposed to be called the Union Flag, not the Union Jack,(since I was in cubs) but I always call it the Union Jack out of habit, and also so I don't sound like a pretentious git

(This is no offence to rac,I'm sure it's easier to talk about such things on your side of the British isles with out everyone going "Wot you talkin' bout, it's the union jack stoopid, every body know ficko!"- I actualy haven't partaken in such a conversion, but i'm sure this, or similar would be the basic result)

p.s don't you think it's time they added Wales' flag and removed the old Irish one from the union one ?      
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Post by: JimBob on 24 June, 2004, 01:19:43 AM
 re union flag: no because a dragon would look a bit strange, stick a great big red hand in the middle instead, it'ld then look like something out of 80s Science fiction and therefore would rock.
 And I'm a stickler for writing proper words on text messages. Not sure why though.
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Post by: Generally Contrary on 24 June, 2004, 03:00:05 AM
So, when the zombified Hugie Green and Norris McWhirter seize power, they will redesign the flag with a big red hand in the centre, like something out of 80's visions of the fascist future.  Of course, being zombies, their ideas are a little dated.  I'm liking this plan more every day.
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Post by: Queen Firey-Bou on 24 June, 2004, 04:17:21 AM
okay thats cool, red hand in the middle, make the back round black...and swop the cross for the skull n crossbones? yeah i'll join the union.

can i wear a big fashist hat?
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Post by: Richmond Clements on 25 June, 2004, 02:45:18 AM
There must be room on that flag for an eagle or burning torch.

Run that up a pole and I'd salute.
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Post by: madgirl on 25 June, 2004, 04:35:37 AM
For those that are sticklers for apostophes etc. read the book Eats, shoots and leaves. It's brilliant, highly reccomended. In fact even if you're not a stickler it a good read.
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Post by: gavzilla on 25 June, 2004, 03:32:40 PM
The rules of the recycle bin dictate that I must use at least a few of these moans weekly...

'No that plastic's not recyclable'

'That bottle/can/tin wasn't washed'

'Remember to take the tops off the bottles before they go in'

'No - not window envelopes. The window isn't paper'

'You've put cellophane in again - it's not recycled'
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Post by: Queen Firey-Bou on 26 June, 2004, 06:40:45 PM
blimey at least youve got a recycling place of sorts. I'm a stickler for recycling at home since the cooncil do funk all about it here, but there is only so many jam jars n cardboard boxes & funking plastic pots that can fit in my funking cuboards...

packaging ? ooo it makes me angry.
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Post by: UZI 4U on 26 June, 2004, 07:24:26 PM
Round here the council have provided a blue bin to each household for cardboard and paper. You'd be amazed how many people you see conscientiously putting bin bags full of newspaper,etc in them. Makes you want to shout "But the bag's plastic- you tit!!"
Jim.
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Post by: Dudley on 26 June, 2004, 07:27:51 PM
Round here, the accompanying leaflet with our recycling bin instructs us to use plastic bags to separate out the different parts (cardboard, paper, glass, tins).

I'm a stickler for reading instructions, me.
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Post by: UZI 4U on 26 June, 2004, 07:37:45 PM
Yeah, my mate lives in Surrey and they've got that system, makes you wonder how they sort it all out again though. Wish we had that set-up as our rubbish bin is always chokka with cans and plastic bottles. In fact I have become a stickler for removing bottle tops just so they crush down better when I'm jumping up and down on the bin!
Jim.
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Post by: Patrick on 26 June, 2004, 10:12:20 PM
My work involves lots of individual cardboard files with sheaves of paper stuck in them, held together by a treasury tag in the corner. People punching the hole so far down the page that it sticks out the top, or so far in from the side it gets all scrunched up when you close the file, or just throwing everything in so messily that when they put it back in the cabinet you can't see the file number for pages sticking out... that gets my goat. And as anyone who's visited mt house will testify, I'm about as far from tidiness-obsessive as it's possible to be, so I don't know what's going on there.

And people who don't bother reading to the end of the word. Maybe the file relates to somebody called "Christina" something, and whoever put it on the computer wrote it as "Christine" so it doesn't show up when you search for it. Grr.

People who keep making the same elementary mistake over and over again. I'm sure that Will Cooling on 411mania is  lovely bloke, and many of his opinions are spot on, but he keeps calling the current Chopper artist Patrick "Goodard" and that really winds me up.

And finally, people on the web who write "the" as "teh". Once in a while is fair enough, we can all mistype, but there seem to be people who never spell it any other way, and you start to think MAYBE THAT'S HOW THEY THINK YOU SPELL IT...

Patrick
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Post by: Queen Firey-Bou on 27 June, 2004, 03:57:28 AM
patrick, the teh really annoys me too, cos ever since i got this new laptop it seems to be the only way i can write it..except now of course because i am trying to do it it just wont. Nothing is more bloody annoying than having to shift the curser up the bloody post 17 times for every single teh.. so i'm tending to not bother.

my excuse to day for particular bad spellin is that i have agonisingly....well okay not agonising my rather very painful hacks/splits on two of my main typing fingers, which is hampering my keyboard/till dexterity somewhat.

i also can't be arsed with the shift key, hence i, me, my . pedants bugger off i'm just chatting , its colloquial, get over it.
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Post by: Bico on 27 June, 2004, 04:32:03 AM
'Yeah, my mate lives in Surrey and they've got that system, makes you wonder how they sort it all out again though.'

I'll go out on a limb and say that the lads in Surrey sort the recycling waste in the same way that the council do around these parts (Northern Ireland) - they collect the seperate bins of recycleable waste, then throw it in the same landfill that they throw the regular waste.
I'm not sure why this is, but it makes me wonder why I bother seperating the stuff in the first place. :/
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Post by: Richmond Clements on 27 June, 2004, 04:54:26 PM
Boy, if you're council is doing that, then you should report them.
I work for my council, and can tell you that we don't do that, though we don't sort it either.
Tony and the lads have passed a load of laws that are very soon going to make it illegal to dump any paper or plastic or glass in landfill sites, which is the real reason that your council if panicking towards recyclying.

But like all government ideas, it's been handled in a shoddy way. Like the law passed a couple of years ago making it illegal to dump an old fridge. Great idea in itself, but they never made any provison as to what we should do with the old ones, so you've got mountains of old fridges laying about while we wait for the government to tell us how to dispose of them.

Where abouts are you anyway boy?
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Post by: Bico on 27 June, 2004, 05:44:33 PM
My mate's dad works for the council (so if it's slanderous, I had it on good authority at the time), and he said that the landfill option they excercised was a temporary measure until people got used to using the blue bins and until the council figured out a long-term solution as to what to actually do with the recycleable stuff.  It DID seem that the whole blue bin thing happened overnight, so they might have figured out what to do with it since (he mentioned it about six months ago), but I've never really taken much interest. (Don't get me wrong, though, I DO sort out my own rubbish.  Apart from anything else, it's handy having an extra bin about)  
Our local dumping site (cookstown) has a nice big stack of used fridges, too.
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Post by: Richmond Clements on 27 June, 2004, 06:47:19 PM
We where down in Cookstown last Tuesday, checking out your council's facilities etc.
Have you only got the blue bin then?
Because, very soon, you'll probably be getting a brown one too, for recycling stuff than can be composted, grass, food etc. I wouldn't fancy being on that lorry in the summer.
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Post by: Noah Angel on 27 June, 2004, 10:21:55 PM
"they will redesign the flag with a big red hand in the centre, like something out of 80's visions of the fascist future."

I've always been rather keen on this one... ;)