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Title: Anyone else bought the Nikolai Dante GN - The Romanov Dynasty
Post by: WoD on 06 December, 2004, 06:04:47 PM
I just got it through the post (very quick delivery from the online shop) and I'm dissapointed with the quality of the reprint.  The whole thing looks blurred in places and is not as fine as when it was first published in the comic.

I wondered if anyone else had it and what you thought.  Is it just my copy that's crap or is it all of them.  Also has anyone bought one of the other GNs and if so, what's the quality like on these?
Title: Re: Anyone else bought the Nikolai...
Post by: Mr D on 06 December, 2004, 06:20:02 PM
I've got the Batman/Dredd one and it's lovely and crisp and clear...
Title: Re: Anyone else bought the Nikolai...
Post by: The Monarch on 06 December, 2004, 06:20:56 PM
Bats/dredd is nice but wod is right about dante it is a bit blurred in places
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Post by: Mr D on 06 December, 2004, 06:25:19 PM
Hm... I might not get it then. I'll wait and see.
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Post by: Oddboy on 06 December, 2004, 06:27:27 PM
I got it from the Future Shop too - I've not read it yet, I've only flipped through it but it looked okay.
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Post by: DavidXBrunt on 06 December, 2004, 06:34:59 PM
Same thing as Odders, bought it, flicked through, looks okay. Might not stand up to closer inspection but it looks okay to me.
Title: Re: Anyone else bought the Nikolai...
Post by: WoD on 06 December, 2004, 06:39:26 PM
mine jumped out so I wondered if it was part of a rogue batch...

I'LL HAVE A (oops) look in my local book store to see if they have one for comparison.
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Post by: The Amstor Computer on 06 December, 2004, 07:32:00 PM
I've got all of the trades so far, so here's a rough idea of print quality:

Batman/Dredd Files - very good.

Sin/Dex Vol 1 - good. Some iffy reprints of some iffy painted art, but it's generally solid.

Red Razors - very good.

Swimming in Blood - major printing issues with the first tale, but the rest of the book is good.

Judgement Day - very good.

Nikolai Dante - iffy in places, but generally quite good.

Some of the issues seem to be down to the source material - stories from a certain period come off very badly, I suspect because some of them had to be scanned from progs rather than films or original art - and some down to the paper quality. Unlike Rebellion's own trades, these DC/Rebellion books are printed on a fairly light, non-glossy stock. This works fine for black and white or four-colour comics, but it impacts on the subtler modern art.

I expect earlier strips like Rogue Trooper, Strontium Dog and Robo-Hunter to look great, and the recent Rebellion-era strips should look fine, but there's likely to be a patch in the 90s where decent reprints are going to be hard to pull off.
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Post by: Tweak72 on 06 December, 2004, 08:07:24 PM
mine was chipper thankyou was very impressed with the whole thing even tells you when the different storys where originally printed
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Post by: Grant Goggans on 06 December, 2004, 08:24:34 PM
My only complaint with The Romanov Dynasty is with a couple of incorrect credits.  Simon Davis and Trevor Hairsine each get creditted for one of Simon Fraser's pieces.  Otherwise, my copy looks quite good and it's a great read.

--Grant
Title: Re: Anyone else bought the Nikolai...
Post by: Tweak72 on 07 December, 2004, 01:09:18 AM
i was gonna ask about that
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Post by: Leigh S on 07 December, 2004, 01:14:57 AM
A thing that struck me about the Nikolai Dante collection is the fact that the version reprinted by Hamlyn removed all the "chapter" stuff - basically, no repetition of logos, and such breaking up the story - I think it reads slightly better than the new version where the next prog and logos scream at you "reprint" every six pages... Now the answer might be because the pages had to be scanned from the comic, but couldn't they have been scanned from the GN, which are a nicer quality?
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Post by: Byron Virgo on 07 December, 2004, 02:17:32 AM
I've got two copies: one from the Future Shop, the other from Forbidden Planet (oh well, at least that means I have one less Christmas present to buy). The printing is fine on my copies. Occasionaly it can be hard to see, when the image is a centre page spread, so that the centre is lost in the spine of the book, but such is always the case with gn collections.
The colouring's a bit lacklustre, but then it was like that originally, and it wasn't until a bit later (probably the next collection, or the one after that) that we'll really see the the quality of colour improve.
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Post by: Revelation 6:8 on 12 December, 2004, 06:48:18 PM
>Now the answer might be because the pages had to be scanned from the comic, but couldn't they have been scanned from the GN, which are a nicer quality?

offered my G/N to be cut up but the decision was made to go with the Progs.
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Post by: DavidXBrunt on 12 December, 2004, 08:10:07 PM
Personally I like the chapter headings and things like that. It's a serial that's being reprinted in one fo, it's never going to flow like a novel so we might as well be able to see exactly where the endings were. Plus I like the little Next episode blurbs.

My one petty complaint is about the pages used to seperate the tales, they're essentially mostly wasted space. The recent Titan editions of Modesty Blaise and James Bond have similar title pages but have little behind the scenes pieces on them. Would this be possible for these editions or would it be too costly? Snippets from T.P.O. or from the writers and artists maybe? It would be more time and effort but would really improve the books.
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Post by: Tweak72 on 12 December, 2004, 08:20:54 PM
i like em 2 didnt bother me about the titles in fact i kinda like seeing it in its frull glory
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Post by: Oddboy on 13 December, 2004, 04:24:28 PM
Yeah, keep the titles & NEXT PROG bits.
Otherwise I spend too much time trying to work out were they aught to be & that gets to be distracting from the story!

The title pages: Jamie said they were to help seperate the different stories, rather then giving the impression that the whole thing is supposed to flow together as one whole story - and I can agree with that.
The only problem is, is that they're a bit dull. Couldn't they use the covers on these pages, where appropriate, rather then sticking them all at the back in a covers gallery?
Title: Re: Anyone else bought the Nikolai...
Post by: Byron Virgo on 13 December, 2004, 04:39:47 PM
Or just put a quote on the page, something along the lines of the ones Morrison uses to open individual episodes.

I have to say I'd prefer it without the episode titles and next episode captions - I personally find them really distracting, and kind of jarring when I'm reading, although I agree that it is interesting to know where the original episode breaks came (in a kind of swattish way).
Title: Re: Anyone else bought the Nikolai...
Post by: Devons Daddy on 13 December, 2004, 06:38:32 PM
 but there's likely to be a patch in the 90s where decent reprints are going to be hard to pull off.


thats something a majority of the board agree on :~) .
Title: Re: Anyone else bought the Nikolai...
Post by: IndigoPrime on 13 December, 2004, 08:15:19 PM
Is that like the Hellboy books? Those intro pages from Mignola are great?it'd be wonderful to see something like that in upcoming GNs.