Title: Necronaughts Gn
Post by: petesbeats on 11 January, 2005, 04:34:55 PM
Post by: petesbeats on 11 January, 2005, 04:34:55 PM
Having missed the progs that this story originally appeared in i'm thinking of buying the Gn. Would you guys recommend or steer clear?
cheers in advance!
cheers in advance!
Title: Re: Necronaughts Gn
Post by: Dudley on 11 January, 2005, 04:35:37 PM
Post by: Dudley on 11 January, 2005, 04:35:37 PM
Recommend,hugely.
Title: Re: Necronaughts Gn
Post by: petesbeats on 11 January, 2005, 04:38:33 PM
Post by: petesbeats on 11 January, 2005, 04:38:33 PM
What's the basic outline story?
Title: Re: Necronaughts Gn
Post by: Dudley on 11 January, 2005, 04:42:10 PM
Post by: Dudley on 11 January, 2005, 04:42:10 PM
Houdini +
Conan Doyle +
Fort +
Lovecraft +
Cthulu mythos +
cricket bats +
drugs +
ravens +
weird flying machines +
the shadow world beyond death +
one of Rennie's tightest scripts +
supreme Frazer Irving artwork +
nice glossy presentation =
ZARJAZ
Conan Doyle +
Fort +
Lovecraft +
Cthulu mythos +
cricket bats +
drugs +
ravens +
weird flying machines +
the shadow world beyond death +
one of Rennie's tightest scripts +
supreme Frazer Irving artwork +
nice glossy presentation =
ZARJAZ
Title: Re: Necronaughts Gn
Post by: Cthulouis on 11 January, 2005, 04:47:48 PM
Post by: Cthulouis on 11 January, 2005, 04:47:48 PM
were we meant to recognise the baddie in the plane? the characters seemed to, but i don't think they ever refered to him by name.
Title: Re: Necronaughts Gn
Post by: Dudley on 11 January, 2005, 04:49:51 PM
Post by: Dudley on 11 January, 2005, 04:49:51 PM
Lindberg, surely?
Title: Re: Necronaughts Gn
Post by: Byron Virgo on 11 January, 2005, 04:51:07 PM
Post by: Byron Virgo on 11 January, 2005, 04:51:07 PM
You mean 'The Aviator'? You can see his name on a poster early on (second episode), although you could work out his identity from the likeness...
Title: Re: Necronaughts Gn
Post by: Cthulouis on 11 January, 2005, 04:57:19 PM
Post by: Cthulouis on 11 January, 2005, 04:57:19 PM
Ah, cheers for that, I had wondered if it was the bloke in the poster, but wasn't sure.
Title: Re: Necronaughts Gn
Post by: GordonR on 11 January, 2005, 05:01:24 PM
Post by: GordonR on 11 January, 2005, 05:01:24 PM
Yeah, it's Charles Lindbergh. A few subtle hints - , 'The Aviator', the quasi-nazism, the possibly crass but oblique reference to the Lindbergh Baby Kidnap case.
I never wanted to identify him by name, but editorial dictates said different, hence the one (I think) mention of his name in dialogue.
I never wanted to identify him by name, but editorial dictates said different, hence the one (I think) mention of his name in dialogue.
Title: Re: Necronaughts Gn
Post by: Cthulouis on 11 January, 2005, 05:07:42 PM
Post by: Cthulouis on 11 January, 2005, 05:07:42 PM
One reason i never made the connection is I wasn't aware he had any kind of dark side to his history. "Bloke flyes plane with cool name, go him!" is all I really know about him. what other dark secrets does he hide?
Title: Re: Necronaughts Gn
Post by: Byron Virgo on 11 January, 2005, 05:08:23 PM
Post by: Byron Virgo on 11 January, 2005, 05:08:23 PM
Is there? Can't say I noticed, anyway.
Title: Re: Necronaughts Gn
Post by: GordonR on 11 January, 2005, 05:12:21 PM
Post by: GordonR on 11 January, 2005, 05:12:21 PM
All-American hero and, by some accounts, a bit of a nazi-sympathiser in the 1930s. Spent a lot of time in Germany then, and was big mates with Herman Goering and enthusiastic about all the cool new things in aviation the Luftwaffe were doing. Enough smoke without fire for the Feds to keep an eye on him after the US entered the war.
The Lindbergh Baby Kidnap case was a huge drama in its time. Lindbergh's baby son was kidnapped - with the inside help of one of his staff. Can't remember if the ransom was paid, but the baby was found dead.
The Lindbergh Baby Kidnap case was a huge drama in its time. Lindbergh's baby son was kidnapped - with the inside help of one of his staff. Can't remember if the ransom was paid, but the baby was found dead.
Title: Re: Necronaughts Gn
Post by: therev on 11 January, 2005, 05:14:58 PM
Post by: therev on 11 January, 2005, 05:14:58 PM
Hmm...I MUST admit I enjoied this hugely when it was in the weekly but after getting the GN at Christmas was strangly quite disapointed. Found it abit too short and dull! Dunno why really.
Title: Re: Necronaughts Gn
Post by: GordonR on 11 January, 2005, 05:15:00 PM
Post by: GordonR on 11 January, 2005, 05:15:00 PM
Oh, and Agatha Christie fictionalised the Lindbergh Baby case and used it as the backstory for Murder On The Orient Express.
Title: Re: Necronaughts Gn
Post by: Cthulouis on 11 January, 2005, 05:15:21 PM
Post by: Cthulouis on 11 January, 2005, 05:15:21 PM
Wow, intriuging stuff. I need to reread Necornaughts me thinks.
Title: Re: Necronaughts Gn
Post by: Dudley on 11 January, 2005, 05:18:34 PM
Post by: Dudley on 11 January, 2005, 05:18:34 PM
The Sunday Times this week featured the story of a guy claiming to be the Lindberg baby. Just enough about him to distinguish him from the many other nutjob claimants over the years,and he is now arranging for a DNA test to prove it.
Apparantly, Lindberg arranged the kidnapping himself because the baby had a club foot and didn't fit with his eugenics-inspired theories of physical purity.
Apparantly, Lindberg arranged the kidnapping himself because the baby had a club foot and didn't fit with his eugenics-inspired theories of physical purity.
Title: Re: Necronaughts Gn
Post by: Richmond Clements on 11 January, 2005, 06:24:44 PM
Post by: Richmond Clements on 11 January, 2005, 06:24:44 PM
It's a great GN.
I reviewed it for the Fortean Times, but they never printed it.
Still, got the book, eh?
I reviewed it for the Fortean Times, but they never printed it.
Still, got the book, eh?
Title: Re: Necronaughts Gn
Post by: Proudhuff on 11 January, 2005, 06:28:42 PM
Post by: Proudhuff on 11 January, 2005, 06:28:42 PM
Yip, get it.
On things Fortean,Is it Frazer who also drew the Forte story that can out before this?
Huff the specless
On things Fortean,Is it Frazer who also drew the Forte story that can out before this?
Huff the specless
Title: Re: Necronaughts Gn
Post by: Oddboy on 11 January, 2005, 06:36:32 PM
Post by: Oddboy on 11 January, 2005, 06:36:32 PM
You mean this, Huffy?
Frazer was picked for the job after Lenkov saw a preview of his art for Necronauts.
Not sure which was actually published first or which was written first, but Necronauts was definitely drawn first.
Frazer was picked for the job after Lenkov saw a preview of his art for Necronauts.
Not sure which was actually published first or which was written first, but Necronauts was definitely drawn first.
Title: Re: Necronaughts Gn
Post by: Proudhuff on 11 January, 2005, 06:42:11 PM
Post by: Proudhuff on 11 January, 2005, 06:42:11 PM
Thats the baby!! Its on a shelf at home.I got it from Frazer's webthingy I think, really enjoyable
well worth a visit
Huff the forgetfool
well worth a visit
Huff the forgetfool
Title: Re: Necronaughts Gn
Post by: Cthulouis on 11 January, 2005, 07:42:22 PM
Post by: Cthulouis on 11 January, 2005, 07:42:22 PM
The picture in Fort of him looking bemused at a rain of fish is great. we need sequals goddamit!
Title: Re: Necronaughts Gn
Post by: Byron Virgo on 11 January, 2005, 10:23:35 PM
Post by: Byron Virgo on 11 January, 2005, 10:23:35 PM
Lenkov's not as good a writer as Rennie, though. Don't like the way the whole book (including art copyright) is solely credited to Lenkov either.
Liked the stuff with Roosevelt, though.
I just narrowly missed out on buying that cover.
Liked the stuff with Roosevelt, though.
I just narrowly missed out on buying that cover.
Title: Re: Necronaughts Gn
Post by: frazer on 12 January, 2005, 11:08:07 AM
Post by: frazer on 12 January, 2005, 11:08:07 AM
The snippet of art in the fortean times that led to the Fort gig was taken from 2000AD after the Necronauts was printed, so that came first.
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Title: Re: Necronaughts Gn
Post by: longmanshort on 12 January, 2005, 03:37:16 PM
Post by: longmanshort on 12 January, 2005, 03:37:16 PM
I had a choice - a page of Necronauts or a page of Death featuring Anderson.
I chose the Death page.
And I'm STILL a happy man ;)
I chose the Death page.
And I'm STILL a happy man ;)
Title: Re: Necronaughts Gn
Post by: Devons Daddy on 12 January, 2005, 03:46:55 PM
Post by: Devons Daddy on 12 January, 2005, 03:46:55 PM
Necronaughts
one of the galaxys greastest finest hours,
and showed the Rennie droids greatness which we now hold in such high esteem and take for granted.
one of the galaxys greastest finest hours,
and showed the Rennie droids greatness which we now hold in such high esteem and take for granted.